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O.P. « 2007-Sep-29, 08:28 PM »
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MAF Biosecurity New Zealand wants to speak to Australian trainer Robbie Heathcote who has admitted spreading equine influenza (EI) into his own stable at Hendra in Brisbane.

Heathcote was thought to be visiting relatives in New Zealand after arriving in the country yesterday afternoon, MAF Biosecurity said.

Heathcote has traveled to NZ after admitting to coming into direct contact with the virus in an attempt at infecting his horses.

Geez i hope New Zealand don't end up with the virus now, heathcote will be in some real strife, they been very proactive about keeping it out of there country  :huh:
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« 2007-Sep-29, 10:22 PM Reply #1 »
This bloke is out control.  :o Who does he think he is dictating what other people should do? Private banker if ever there was one..... I'd be surprised if there wasn't some sort of crimnal charge that could be laid if he infects NZ. :x There would be if he tried it here I can tell you. ;)

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« 2007-Sep-30, 07:07 AM Reply #2 »
This blokes a goose  :tard.gif:

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« 2007-Sep-30, 09:42 AM Reply #3 »
He was on the news last night stating it's a beatup as he took all precausions before entering NZ,he is an idiot and obviously didn't like fellow trainer Les Ross getting so much media coverage so had to go all out to get his own.

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« 2007-Sep-30, 09:53 AM Reply #4 »
Freaking crazy. Apparently the virus can live in your nostril hairs for 72 hours  :look: And after Ric Mcmahon copping a $5000 fine for breaking biosecurity protocol, what will be the penalty here??

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« 2007-Sep-30, 02:15 PM Reply #5 »
Apparently the virus can live in your nostril hairs for 72 hours 

Yeuchhhhhhhhhhhhhh :o

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« 2007-Oct-01, 09:38 PM Reply #6 »
I have to have a laugh at you guys. What a load of garbage? You obviously have been taken in by the sensationalist journalism created by a few for the sake of a heading.
Heathcote spent hours conversing with the DPI here and subsequently spent $ on purchasing all new clothes and made it quite clear at arrival in NZ who he was and his concerns. MAF appreciated his honestly and passed him with flying colours at the airport.
Therefore how can it be an issue?
Give the man a beak - he would have far more intelligence than the the likes of those whom would want to rubbish him for his endeavours. Why is it one of the most influential owner,breeder and indeed sales proprietors did the same to one of his farms?
He had the support of 100% of his Owners for making the stand and I would go so far to say at least 90% of the local trainers who will not come out and confirm there support for fear of the consequences - how weak are they?
Based on the Randwick scenario what was the alternative?
Obviously there are not too many of you race a number of horses and are bearing the consequences of the outbreak. You are only interested in your $5ew at Wagga!!!!

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« 2007-Oct-02, 06:28 AM Reply #7 »
Vadim , i can see why he did it, but still don't agree with it for quite a few reason.

If any of his horse's are insured and any just happen to die through secondary infection, do you think the insurance company will pay up ......... and his owners are out of pocket !!

Infecting all his horse's has now guaranteed that every other trainer in the same complex as himself will get it, he has deliberately broken the law and made the decision for the other trainers, who now are no chance of staying clean and having their horse's inoculated and spared the suffering.

And who deliberately puts their horse through suffering something like this, with a blatant disregard for the laws and everybody around him ..... that in itself make me wonder about this guys moral fibre.

The rest about the NZ story you are correct, just sensationalism to drive the media frenzy !

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« 2007-Oct-02, 11:08 AM Reply #8 »
Sorry MagiC** could disagree with you more.

The sad thing is they took three weeks at Randwick to finally get horse mingling to spread it quicker.

99% of horses get a little spike in their temperature - surely not a harsh or cruel as alluded by others. They have similar temperature rises throughout their lives and in and out of work.

I know for sure that most trainers in the area want it over and done with - so prolonging the inevitable does not seem logical.

I can assure he has more moral fibre than most. He could have gone about it secretly but when asked the question he admitted it.

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« 2007-Oct-02, 11:37 AM Reply #9 »
99% of horses get a little spike in their temperature - surely not a harsh or cruel as alluded by others. They have similar temperature rises throughout their lives and in and out of work.

A mare in foal just died from EI related complications and another on the same propery (not a mare) is very sick and nearly dead.

Doesn't sound like slight temperature spikes to me  :/

edit: I think that is two deaths now
And also what about the people beside Heathcote who didn't get a chance to have their horse's inoculated, he decided for them also , not just himself, very selfish imho
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« 2007-Oct-02, 12:17 PM Reply #10 »
Terrible news that a pregnant mare has died because of EI.

Vadim...the beautiful thing of this country is we each are entitled to OUR opinion,I for one feel Heathcote is a law unto himself,how dare he attempt to put other trainers horses at great risk,isn't he the same trainer who allowed someone to enter horses in races as being trained by Heathcote when this wasn't so as the person entering those horses was being the trainer himself unlicenced,didn't for some strange reason the person who got Heathcote started in racing and put up money for that exercise suddenly dumped him as his trainer,so they are a few things that are adding up about his professional way of doing things....not.

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« 2007-Oct-02, 04:56 PM Reply #11 »
I agree koolcat we are all entitled to our opinion - I would never argue otherwise.

However, your assessment of the Heathcote licensing arrangement is over the top. The whole procedure was a fiasco from day one and only occurred because he had the audacity to question the motives of the Stewards on occasions as was his position on the ATA. I think he has learnt his lesson on that issue. However, just on that pint who trains Efficient?

As for the money man well that is even more of a furphy. Families will always have their splits and that was the case here. We might all like to have had similar benefactors in life but that will not be the case for most of us. How many horses does the money man you refer to race in Australia now?

lol

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« 2007-Oct-02, 05:02 PM Reply #12 »
Snowbunny do you really seriously believe that the whole precinct would not have EI ultimately. You are seriously at odds with all of the Authorities on that issue.

I for one feel extremely concerned about the loss of any horse so don't think I am being callous.

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« 2007-Oct-02, 05:35 PM Reply #13 »
I think we are fogetting one thing here.Trainers are in most cases simply that,the majority of trainers have little or no vested interest in the horses they train.The question that should be asked is "were the owners of these particular horses consulted with?" or did he act on his own behalf.As yet we are unaffected in S.A.,but I know one thing for sure,if my trainer did anything untoward to my horse,such as the subject matter,he would be lead soloist in the Welsh Boy's Choir (if you get my drift) >:(

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« 2007-Oct-02, 07:12 PM Reply #14 »
I believe Aristotle that the investment most trainers have in their stables is more than it has ever been before - Owners' are pretty hard to find in the present climate.
Heathcote has a number of horses in shares with clients - just take note of the horses with his name (wife's) on the owners' listing next time we get to the races.
As for consulting with his Owners' I believe he did so spelling out all of the points "for" and "against" his proposed plan. No one owner will be leaving the stable as far as I know.

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« 2007-Oct-02, 08:28 PM Reply #15 »
To tell the honest truth I'd never heard of the bloke prior to this event,you see I'm from South Australia & I believe in supporting my own states racing & for that matter have never backed a horse in Qld (sorry  :embarrassed:)In S.A. a lot of trainers lease their stables,at sales they buy horses outright & syndicate them out usually retaining 10%-20%.Because our prize money is so crappy they can't afford to own them outright,they depend on owners.Correct me if I'm wrong but I get the impression by all your knowledge of the man & the ongoing saga,that you may be one of his owners/clients.

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« 2007-Oct-02, 08:48 PM Reply #16 »
You are correct in your assumption re having horses in the stable.

He owns his stables, very rarely buys a horse on spec. and has a healthy number of clients. The point that I am making he must be doing something right. Before this fiasco he was also leading the Metro premiership albeit very early in the year.

He has risen to this position not from the traditional manner ie. the son of a horseman's son but through hardwork and studying different training methods. This generates a certain amount of angst amongst the traditionalists who can not come to terms with his success.

I have to also add to all the doubters that he is one of the greatest lovers of animals I have met be it dogs, cats or horses.


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