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Maximus

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« 2014-Aug-03, 11:31 AM Reply #25 »
..the stewards are stupid...donkey punters were the only ones who agree with the upholding..the experts don't agree with it...after seeing the replay this morning I totally agree with the experts.

And a hearty congratulations to Richard Freedman on his elevation to a racing "expert".  :clap2:

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« 2014-Aug-03, 11:41 AM Reply #26 »
Liberation put his interruption on himself and like the guys said on Retro he goes straight he wins by 1L...a winner all the way

See that's just it, he DIDN'T go straight and cost the other horse, it's not about what he might have done, it's about what he did  ;)


the stewards are stupid...


What? As opposed to the narks sitting down some nondescript club somewhere?

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« 2014-Aug-03, 01:15 PM Reply #27 »
I guess the point is Liberation moved out when over a length + clear & never contacted the other horse.

If that is upheld then to be consistent then Stewards will have to start upholding protests where horses are LESS than a Length clear & move out forcing the other jockey/horse to move out with it. Many times we see this & the Stewards say not upheld due to no contact.(even though the outside horses running has been inconvenienced by the inside horse).

I can't see how you can uphold one but not the other. 
   

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« 2014-Aug-03, 01:53 PM Reply #28 »
I'm in the "had to be upheld" camp.
So am I. If Liberation doesn't come out then Costin doesn't have to change direction on Press Report.

I not sure which club Koolcat was in but most punters who expressed an opinion to me in my PUBTAB thought that Liberation would propably lose the protest. Included in those were 2 punters who had Liberation going in all up bets.

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« 2014-Aug-06, 10:14 PM Reply #29 »
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« 2014-Aug-23, 11:01 AM Reply #30 »

The United States has lodged a diplomatic protest after a Chinese fighter jet flew dangerously close to a Navy plane in international airspace, performing aerial manoeuvres just metres away.

The warplane flew underneath the American plane, at the P-8's nose and then in parallel with the wingtips, less than nine metres apart.

The US protests after a Chinese fighter jet barrel rolls and shows its armament to...
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« 2014-Sep-20, 01:07 PM Reply #31 »
This is an interesting one in Brisbane.

4th v 2nd, but there was a dead heat for 4th.

My understanding of the rules is that they have to promote the equal 4th if the protest is upheld i.e. it will become a dead heat for third.

Is that right?

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« 2014-Sep-20, 01:11 PM Reply #32 »
This is an interesting one in Brisbane.

4th v 2nd, but there was a dead heat for 4th.

My understanding of the rules is that they have to promote the equal 4th if the protest is upheld i.e. it will become a dead heat for third.

Is that right?
Kind of. There is no such thing as promotion, only relegation. The offender gets placed behind the horse that successfully protests so in this case would run 5th behind the dead heaters.

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« 2014-Sep-20, 01:15 PM Reply #33 »
Kind of. There is no such thing as promotion, only relegation. The offender gets placed behind the horse that successfully protests so in this case would run 5th behind the dead heaters.

Thanks.

There is another minor protest at Caulfield - 5th v 2nd.

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« 2014-Sep-20, 01:17 PM Reply #34 »
Why are they called minor protests ?

I see them as no less important than 2nd Vs 1st.


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« 2015-Jul-17, 12:02 PM Reply #35 »
There is a protest in the first at Pakenham today.

The interesting thing here is that this was a "corporate special" race for Ladbrokes, where if your horse ran 2nd on a fixed odds bet you get a Bonus Bet.

Over the line #7 and #10 dead heated.

#10 has protested against the #7 - looks like it has a good chance of being upheld.

I backed the #7. Thought it was such a good quinella that I saved on the exacta 10-7. I have been paid out on the dead heat as per the policy on protests.

So a couple of questions:

i) Without the protest, would I get "half" a bonus bet?
ii) If the protest is upheld, will I get a full bonus bet?

This scenario was not covered in the T&C.

Actually, my expectation is that I will get no bonus bet at all. Quite happy with that - get a payout regardless and the exacta will ease the pain.

Just one of those interesting academic things   :biggrin:

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« 2015-Jul-17, 12:07 PM Reply #36 »
PoisonPen7,

Well nothing ran second in actual fact.....

maye they need to clear up the differencebetween 'ran second' versus altered to 2nd after a protest and such like.

Fours

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« 2015-Jul-17, 12:08 PM Reply #37 »
Protest upheld!!

I'll check the account later and report on what Ladbrokes did.

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« 2015-Jul-17, 01:25 PM Reply #38 »
3rd got the bonus bet.

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« 2015-Jul-17, 01:31 PM Reply #39 »
3rd got the bonus bet.

OK. Can (sorta) see the rationale.

My exacta paid $8.30 mid tote which I was more than happy with. Got the full dividend with the protest upheld so everyone should be happy   :biggrin:

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« 2016-Feb-24, 04:33 PM Reply #40 »
The $150 despised outsider has protested against the champ Admiral ($1.40) in the Gerorge Adams at Launceston.

They cannot uphold that surely. It would be "un-Tasmanian".

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« 2016-Mar-05, 03:40 PM Reply #41 »
Palentino! Again!

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« 2016-Mar-05, 03:46 PM Reply #42 »
horse is a menace to fair racing.

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« 2016-Mar-05, 03:49 PM Reply #43 »
horse is a menace to fair racing.

Bit of a stretch :o

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« 2016-Mar-05, 04:09 PM Reply #44 »
horse is a menace to fair racing.

In what regard do you see that? Froggy was trying to hold it in a pocket, failed, both horses shifted ground equally, the best horse on the day won. I thought it was very fair racing?

Respectfully, this is only my opinion.

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« 2016-Mar-05, 04:13 PM Reply #45 »
Christ it was a joke. Lighten up.

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« 2016-Mar-05, 04:14 PM Reply #46 »
and both protests have been decided 100% correctly.  ;)

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« 2016-Mar-05, 04:28 PM Reply #47 »
Christ it was a joke. Lighten up.

Oh

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« 2016-Mar-05, 04:41 PM Reply #48 »
Christ it was a joke. Lighten up.

Sorry dude, my fault, it went right over my head   :lol:

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« 2016-Mar-12, 03:38 PM Reply #49 »
Must have ran out 8 horses wide that winner.

Upheld this one  :)


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