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Offline Base

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O.P. « 2009-Jan-06, 05:06 PM »
Hi all

This is my first post. :what:

I backed Cavan Dancer, R5 Wyong today and thought it won convincingly by a length, but, protest upheld. 

JT on SKY said "head on is not available for viewing" so I'm wondering if anyone has any thoughts on whether the stewards were correct in their decision.


Offline arakaan

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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:09 PM Reply #1 »
no one shadow of a doubt the protest should've been upheld. Would've taken them 1-2 mins at most to deliberate.

it hung in and stopped the 2nd horse completely dead in its tracks twice. As soon as the second horse got the clear running it went straight into second closing in on the winner.

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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:12 PM Reply #2 »
Base , I didn't see the race, but can understand you wanting your's to get up.

Good price and good bet  emthup

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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:13 PM Reply #3 »
In my opinion the rules should be that the first over the line should have been relegated, but as the rule stand no way should that have been upheld.


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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:14 PM Reply #4 »
You were stiff Base, 99/100 times that would have been dismissed.

But that is what ya get with the rules as they stand.

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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:24 PM Reply #5 »
Was never going to be dismissed...ever :p

Offline Base

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« 2009-Jan-06, 05:47 PM Reply #6 »
Thanks fellas, at least I don't feel cheated - only light in the pocket.

With my luck if it rained film stars I would end up with Phillis Diller or possibly Rock Hudson!

I don't know how others feel but at the end of most days I usually feel stiff in the wrong places.

Even a movie rated as 4.5 by David Stratton and Margaret Pomerantz I feel unlucky after I've seen it!

Offline Big Wheel

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« 2009-Jan-07, 07:41 AM Reply #7 »
Base I TO WAS ON CAVAN DANCER but i think
it was the jock on the horse that cost us he had cassidy in a pocket
and let him out he should of kept him there not gone for home on the turn, put it this way swap the jocks and Cavan wins

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2009-Jan-07, 07:55 AM Reply #8 »
I was on the Dancer as well and was convinced I was going to lose my cash.

It should have been upheld, especially if you compared it to the farce of the Villiers and takeover target

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« 2009-Jan-07, 09:05 AM Reply #9 »
You people have gone all soft. If this had happened 18 months ago the stewards would not have left the course in one piece.

9/10 stewards panels in this country would have dismissed that objection.

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« 2009-Jan-07, 09:08 AM Reply #10 »
your kidding Author....most blatant interference I have seen for ages.....oh wait....you are kidding....silly me :p

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:02 AM Reply #11 »
YOUR IN NEED OF GLASSES BUD THAT WAS THE MOST OBV
UPHELD I HAVE EVER SEEN THE BLOKE FLATTENED HIM TWICE
AND I WAS EVEN ON THE WINNER AND RIPPED UP MY TICKET B4
IT WAS NOTIFED THERE WAS A PROTEST, IT WAS THE SPASTICS
FAULT FOR NOT STEERING AND HE ALSO HAD HIM IN A POCKET AND LET HIM OUT, IT SHOULD OF WON BY 10 MATE!!!!!!!!

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:06 AM Reply #12 »
i DOUBT YOU DID BACK IT.

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:07 AM Reply #13 »
You guys have judged this purely from the side on view ?

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:09 AM Reply #14 »
i SWEAR ON MY 2 DAUGHTERS I DID BACK IT I BACKED
THE HORSE ITS LAST 3

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:11 AM Reply #15 »
the ANGLES DONT CHANGE THE INTERFERANCE MATE, NO DISREPECT TO YA MATE, BUT FAIR DINKUM

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:16 AM Reply #16 »
I have seen horses cause more interference and win by a lip and not lose the race.

From the side on angle i was and am very very surprised they upheld it.

I am not disputing the interference.

Wily comparing it to The Villiers takes the cake.

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« 2009-Jan-07, 11:21 AM Reply #17 »
FAIR ENOUGH,BUT THE STEWARDS RULE ON
 IF THE HORSE WOULD OF WON HAD IT NOT SUFFERED THE INTERFERANCE AND  IM SURE HAD THAT NOT HAVE HAPPENED THE
2ND HORSE DOES BEAT IT, BUT LOOK MATE IM NO STEWARD AND I
RESPECT YOUR OPINION,

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« 2009-Jan-07, 06:21 PM Reply #18 »
Author

I did see the head on and it was worse.  emthup

In the Villiers Honor in War didn't have to check abruptly or change course very much at all

the 2nd horse in this case was stopped dead in it's tracks and the jock was up in the irons.

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« 2009-Jan-07, 06:59 PM Reply #19 »
Where did you see the head on, nobody has shown it on the home channels ?

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2009-Jan-07, 07:22 PM Reply #20 »
I'm sure I  saw about 15 minutes after the race on either sky or tvn


Maybe I'm delirious because I didn't expect to collect  :biggrin:

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« 2009-Jan-08, 04:32 PM Reply #21 »
Bloody hell :mad:

It appears that I've been debating something we agreed on.

Went to collect my cavan dancer. I was told the protest was dismissed  :lol:

Ouch, no collect for wily and plenty of confusion.


just to clarify, it was rightfully upheld........much to my detriment :sad:

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« 2009-Jan-27, 10:40 AM Reply #22 »
From the MSN Site: The New Horse Racing Community Forum


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Recommend  Message 1 of 201 in Discussion 
From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Starę  (Original Message) Sent: 26/01/2008 4:51 PM
For all discussions pertaining to protests.
 
Remember, when a protest is upheld, the loser in the protest is placed behind the successful protestor.
 
 
 

Offline randwick

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« 2009-Jan-27, 10:41 AM Reply #23 »
Has anyone got a comment on the protest at Doomben? :what: King Leonidas.

I saw the head on and it looked clear cut. PROTEST UPHELD. But no it wasn't. :what:

There was severe intimidation and a brush, it should have been enough.

Was it a matter of Cassidy out talking the kid? :what:

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« 2009-Jan-27, 10:43 AM Reply #24 »
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Recommend  Message 2 of 201 in Discussion 
From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 26/01/2008 4:58 PM

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Recommend  Message 3 of 201 in Discussion 
From: j.r.b. Sent: 26/01/2008 6:23 PM
The protest on the last at the GC will be upheld for sure.
 
I haven't seen the interference and I don't need to.
 
All I need to know is that I'm on the first past the post at 12/1 on betfair, and that's the sort of day I'm having.

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/01/2008 6:29 PM
Ray Murrihy would uphold it.

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Recommend  Message 5 of 201 in Discussion 
From: NineMSN NicknameMattDjebel31 Sent: 26/01/2008 6:50 PM

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Recommend  Message 6 of 201 in Discussion 
From: NineMSN NicknameSpudda028 Sent: 26/01/2008 7:55 PM
JRB I was on Mr Mojito too with a guy next to me taking the tri straight out with LTBR to win. He threw his ticket away and i mentioned to him might be a protest & to maybe hang on to it.
 He watched the replay and thought it was the other horse on the inside that caused the interference not Mr M. And what do you know protest upheld and he collects, I lose!

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From: arakaan Sent: 26/01/2008 7:57 PM
they showed the head on spudda. definately a shft from the outside horse. Unlike the Takeover Target one the 2nd horse was actually in and entitled to the run in this one.

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From: arakaan Sent: 28/01/2008 3:08 PM
wonder if Matt watched race 4 in sydney.

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Recommend  Message 9 of 201 in Discussion 
From: NineMSN NicknameLuskin_Starę Sent: 28/01/2008 5:25 PM
Arakaan, I was most surprised there was no protest in that race. The winner definitely cut across in front of Emperator, taking his running. However despite Emperator running the winner to a nose, alas, no protest.

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From: arakaan Sent: 28/01/2008 5:28 PM
Indeed. Identical actions by the lead horse to one a few weeks ago. I Wonder what Ray was doing or was he asleep or just not enough media around today.
 
By the way both winners deserved to stay winners.

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From: NineMSN NicknameGunstan Sent: 28/01/2008 5:28 PM
why didn't Murrihy protest on behalf of the connections?
he is on the public record for defending the TOT protest.

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From: NineMSN NicknameMullerbeck Sent: 2/02/2008 3:25 PM
Hard to see any more trivial protest the one in Sydney in race 4. From head on, the runner up was shifting in, although horses were never closer than 1 m apart. Looks like young Kody Nestor will be fined for trivial protest.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 2/02/2008 3:28 PM
Looks that way.

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From: The Carnegie Express Sent: 2/02/2008 3:30 PM
I give up. TT should never have been upheld and this should not have been dismissed. Corruption is rife in Sydney racing.

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From: NineMSN Nicknamegratlog1 Sent: 2/02/2008 3:31 PM

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From: arakaan Sent: 2/02/2008 3:32 PM
TCE if you think that bump at the 350m made any difference stop punting.


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