Author Topic: PROTEST! (Read 224709 times)

Jeunes · « 2019-Nov-05, 10:12 PM **Reply #850** »

Quote from: sobig on 2019-Nov-05, 08:18 PM

You would think that if he thought there was no way he could win a protest
it must be impossible to have a result overturnedt in Ireland.

He was riding for the dad of the runner up and if he protested, it may not have been viewed favourably by the stable. All reports indicate he was not a willing participant in the protest.

Il Paradiso should have won and Dettori’s failure to straighten his mount cost the O’Briens dearly both ways.

arthur · « 2019-Nov-06, 07:31 AM **Reply #851** »

Quote from: nemisis on 2019-Nov-05, 07:57 PM

Interesting it was a stewards protest.....been a while since I've seen one....almost guaranteed it will be upheld.

You would think so . . but I can vaguely remember one in Brisbane(?), a long time ago . . Arsenal may recall . . that was dismissed

PoisonPen7 · « 2019-Nov-06, 12:54 PM **Reply #852** »

Quote from: arthur on 2019-Nov-06, 07:31 AM

You would think so . . but I can vaguely remember one in Brisbane(?), a long time ago . . Arsenal may recall . . that was dismissed

What was the controversial one in the Magic Millions one year involving two Gai Waterhouse horses

Arsenal · « 2019-Nov-10, 01:24 PM **Reply #853** »

RACE 1: Shopper Media Handicap 1100m:

Sophiella – Stewards considered a protest lodged by Mr W. Birch, Deputy Chairman of Stewards, on
behalf of the connections of Sophiella alleging interference by the 3rd placegetter, Caccini, near the
300m. After considering the evidence Stewards found that near the 300m Sophiella had endeavoured
to establish a run between Can't Find Snippy and Caccini, and shortly after had to be steadied when
Caccini shifted in marginally to improve to the inside of Invictus Salute, which shifted out at the same
time. As the Stewards could not be comfortably satisfied that Sophiella had fully established clear
running between Can't Find Snippy and Caccini, the protest was dismissed. Began awkwardly and
made contact with its nearside barrier partition, resulting in its rider becoming unbalanced and losing
ground. Between the 300m and the 200m Sophiella was shifted to the outside of Caccini to improve.
Over the final 100m Sophiella had difficulty obtaining clear running when being shifted to the outside
of Invictus Salute to improve.
ENDS

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2019Nov09&VenueCode=MTA5NTg2MA==&RaceNumber=1&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Looked like the third horse flattened Sophiella would have upheld it ....bad decision IMO

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PoisonPen7 · « 2019-Nov-10, 10:02 PM **Reply #854** »

Quote from: Arsenal on 2019-Nov-10, 01:24 PM

RACE 1: Shopper Media Handicap 1100m:

Sophiella – Stewards considered a protest lodged by Mr W. Birch, Deputy Chairman of Stewards, on
behalf of the connections of Sophiella alleging interference by the 3rd placegetter, Caccini, near the
300m. After considering the evidence Stewards found that near the 300m Sophiella had endeavoured
to establish a run between Can't Find Snippy and Caccini, and shortly after had to be steadied when
Caccini shifted in marginally to improve to the inside of Invictus Salute, which shifted out at the same
time. As the Stewards could not be comfortably satisfied that Sophiella had fully established clear
running between Can't Find Snippy and Caccini, the protest was dismissed. Began awkwardly and
made contact with its nearside barrier partition, resulting in its rider becoming unbalanced and losing
ground. Between the 300m and the 200m Sophiella was shifted to the outside of Caccini to improve.
Over the final 100m Sophiella had difficulty obtaining clear running when being shifted to the outside
of Invictus Salute to improve.
ENDS

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2019Nov09&VenueCode=MTA5NTg2MA==&RaceNumber=1&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Looked like the third horse flattened Sophiella would have upheld it ....bad decision IMO

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Ya killin' me!

Got a good tip for Sophiella - backed it with both TAB and Ladbrokes where I would have got my stake back as a bonus bet if it run third.

Should have certainly run 2nd.

At the time I didn't really think about interference. Barrier 1 killed it. You could see Reith knew he was in trouble long before the "interference". He took the wrong decision when looking for a run - which I hasten to add I don't blame him for. Jockeys are not going to get it right 100% of the time when faced with making a decision on the fly.

Reminds me of that apprentice in Brisbane they gave a long suspension to for taking a wrong decision. Never agreed with that. Whatever happened to him?

wily ole dog · « 2019-Nov-11, 06:21 AM **Reply #855** »

I’d need to see a front on view to change my mind but no way would I uphold that in what I saw

Arsenal · « 2019-Dec-07, 06:43 PM **Reply #856** »

Race 2: SUMMER RACING CARNIVAL QTIS 3YO H'CAP – 1350M

After viewing the stewards’ patrol footage apprentice S. Thornton, the rider of ROTHENBURG, placed 2nd by the Judge, lodged an objection against SCOUT being declared the winner, alleging interference near the 200m. After taking evidence from all parties and viewing the videos, it was established that approaching the 250m ROTHENBURG had secured and improved into a clear run between JET A ONE and SCOUT, however, shortly after, JET A ONE, which was commencing to weaken, shifted out approximately half a horse, resulting in ROTHENBURG being carried out on to the hind quarter of SCOUT, which in turn was turned inwards. In this incident jockey R. Maloney, the rider of SCOUT, had his horse’s head turned inwards slightly in an endeavour to hold his ground. As stewards were of the view that the initial shift was from JET A ONE in shifting out and therefore a contributing factor to the severe crowding to ROTHENBURG, they were of the view that the objection ought be dismissed and correct weight declared on the Judge’s placings. However, R. Maloney was advised to be mindful of his actions in regards to riding competitively.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/video-replays/player/thoroughbred/doom/20191207/race/2

ENDS

I didn't have a bet so not talking through my kick but IMO this should have been upheld.

Nathan Exelby in the SM today :-

"Feel hard Dunn-by on protest dismissal
NATHAN EXELBY

CONNECTIONS of Rothenburg were left stunned after their objection was dismissed following an explosive protest hearing at Doomben yesterday.

Rothenburg’s rider Steph Thornton objected against Scout (Ryan Maloney) being declared the winner after she was squeezed out of a run at the 200m point.

During the hearing, Rothenburg’s trainer Matt Dunn said Maloney’s actions “bordered on foul riding” as Scout’s head was turned in as Thornton tried to establish her run.

Waiting outside the room as stewards deliberated, Scout’s cotrainer Trent Edmonds hoped a slight shift out from the inside horse Jet A One would save them and his wish came true.

Stewards said the pressure from the inside pushed Scout’s rump out, which was the reason he had his head turned in and that contribution was enough for them to dismiss the objection.

Chief steward Peter Chadwick told Maloney after the hearing they felt his actions were not sinister but “there’s a fine line” and for him to be wary of not crossing it.

Thornton was shocked by the dismissed ruling after earlier telling stewards that “given clear daylight he clearly beats the winner”.

Maloney said Thornton had not established her run when the incident occurred, a claim countered by Dunn, who said she was fully entitled to it.

“We were lucky not to land on the deck,” Dunn said.

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wily ole dog · « 2020-Jan-31, 03:48 PM **Reply #857** »

Anyone see the 7th at Taree?

Surely a protest by the 4th horse

nemisis · « 2020-Apr-07, 04:38 PM **Reply #858** »

How was that protest on the 7th at Bendigo dismissed?
I'll declare my hand......I was on Intelle but I've lost protests for less.

Young C Rawiller doesn't stop riding and takes Intelle out off her entitled line......he has broken 2 rules there!

Not sure if that sort of whip riding belongs anywhere either......looked a bit like N Callow in the previous...... 70's and 80's style.

wily ole dog · « 2020-Apr-07, 09:06 PM **Reply #859** »

Amazing decision.
Pathetic actually

JWesleyHarding · « 2020-May-23, 04:03 PM **Reply #860** »

So would this be called an Outrageous protest?

sobig · « 2020-May-23, 04:16 PM **Reply #861** »

Yes and yes

Arsenal · « 2020-Jun-21, 05:44 PM **Reply #862** »

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/lindsay-park-sought-clarification-from-stewards-on-protest-20200619

Some controversy over this decision there was a neck in it and nothing evident from the side on view the head on stewards vision would be worth watching if it's still available .

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sobig · « 2020-Jun-21, 06:57 PM **Reply #863** »

The problem looking at the stewards vision is that it is unclear how close the the winning post the interference (which was imo major) occurred.

wily ole dog · « 2020-Jun-21, 07:14 PM **Reply #864** »

I thought it should have been upheld. 2nd horse charged up to win until the bump came

Arsenal · « 2020-Dec-24, 06:31 PM **Reply #865** »

Brenton Avdulla suspended and Hugh Bowman questioned
8 hours ago by Mitch Cohen
Avdulla has been handed a suspension Avdulla has been handed a suspension Image: Getty
Brenton Avdulla was stripped of a win on protest and copped a ban in the process while Hugh Bowman's ride came under the microscope after an eventful race six at Warwick Farm on Wednesday.

Avdulla booted home the Joseph Pride-trained Accelerato but he was immediately brought before Racing NSW stewards for alleged interference over the concluding stages.

Rival hoop Kathy O’Hara fired in a protest after Accelerato shifted out over the final 25m, making contact with fourth placegetter Star Of Harada which then interfered with the momentum of Exceltic.

Gary Portelli’s galloper Exceltic was making his run down the outside when the interference occurred.

WATCH: Stewards' vision of the incident 👇

“Stewards could be comfortably satisfied that had such incident not occurred Exceltic would have finished in advance of Accelerato and, therefore, the protest was upheld,” the stewards report read.

The shift cost Avdulla a short holiday over the festive season that will see him miss the Listed Christmas Classic meeting on New Year’s Day as well as one Saturday raceday.

He pleaded guilty to a charge of careless riding under AR131(a) and will begin a week ban on Sunday, which will run to Sunday, January 3.

Sydney Racing

Hugh Bowman was questioned by stewards. Photo: Mark Evans/Getty Images

After the protest had wrapped up, stewards put Bowman’s decision-making aboard Godolphin galloper Deference in their crosshairs.

The James Cummings-trained gelding, which was a $3.40 favourite, surged home for third when Bowman got clear air at the 150m mark after he struggled to find clear running in the straight.

Stewards questioned Bowman’s tactics, particularly at the 600m when he shifted back to the fence and to follow the running of second favourite Super Effort.

Bowman’s previous experience riding Super Effort was instrumental in his decision making, he explained.

“Bowman stated that after riding Super Effort in a barrier trial leading into today’s race he was confident of that horse‘s chances and believed it would provide him a trail into the event,” the report reads.

“He added that at the 600m when he believed Super Effort was travelling well, he formed the view that Super Effort would be able to shift Sedition wider, which would provide him with a favourable trail into the race rounding the home turn and in the early part of the straight.”

Bowman shifted to the outside when Super Effort failed to find clear running and Deference stormed home when clear.

Stewards felt Bowman made the wrong call moving to the fence but did not believe his actions were unreasonable given his knowledge of Super Effort’s racing style.

https://www.punters.com.au/news/avdulla-suspended-bowman-questioned-at-farm_195412/

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/FreeFields/VideoResult.aspx?MeetDate=2020Dec23&VenueCode=MzYxODcyMA==&RaceNumber=6&MeetingCategory=Professional&VideoFileType=FullReplay

Bowman pulled the wrong rein looked a certainty beaten.......just one of those things the "not blameworthy" experience.

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winner · « 2021-Jan-16, 04:49 PM **Reply #866** »

What the hell happened to isotope? Every bookie ran specials on the horse and jockey jumps off ?

Gintara · « 2021-Jan-16, 05:46 PM **Reply #867** »

I have to watch again but I thought she blundered or slipped as she rounded the bend

Gintara · « 2021-Jan-16, 05:48 PM **Reply #868** »

Need the stewards footage as she is partly obscured but you can she her head go down which has thrown him.

Gintara · « 2021-Jan-16, 05:58 PM **Reply #869** »

There's some footage up on punters.com.au that show's her blunder badly, doesn't look to clip heels

https://www.punters.com.au/news/guineas-drama-as-hot-fav-loses-jockey-in-the-run_195796/?fbclid=IwAR1Zie1F9H5KDiFS3GLT4eF7Vad2_5HIKewr-2yQU7a-jalC5v7z7EpcmvY

Peter Mair · « 2021-Jan-16, 08:00 PM **Reply #870** »

................... inflate the fields ............. favoured runners may have to make their own luck ... or the converse

Gintara · « 2021-Jan-16, 09:29 PM **Reply #871** »

Quote from: Peter Mair on 2021-Jan-16, 08:00 PM

................... inflate the fields ............. favoured runners may have to make their own luck ... or the converse

..... buuuuuut if we dig a little deeper.

AWAY GAME – After passing the 400 metre mark, was galloped on by ISOTOPE. Laid out under pressure in the home straight. A post-race veterinary examination revealed the filly to have sustained abrasions to her off side hock and cannon.

ISOTOPE – After passing the 400 metre mark, hung out and clipped the heels of AWAY GAME, dislodging rider R. Maloney. A post-race veterinary examination revealed the filly to have a laceration to the off side mouth.

https://www.racingqueensland.com.au/racing-and-results/full-calendar/thoroughbred/meeting/gcst/20210116/stewards-report

The heavily backed fav, hung out and clipped the heals of the 2nd fav.

Please explain how this is applicable to your usual waffle? How did the field size have any effect?