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« 2015-Dec-27, 03:27 AM Reply #1025 »
VENGEANCE OF RAIN (NZ) 2000 (raced in Australia as 'Subscribe')                                                
27 starts, 10 wins (6 x Group 1), 3 seconds and 4 thirds.  Win % 37, Place % 63.                                                 
I have included estimated Hong Kong dollars (HKD) and Australian equivalent prizemoney (AUD) after each race start using the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) Daily Indicative Rates to convert Hong Kong earnings and Dubai earnings (advertised in US dollars (USD)) into AUD.  The daily exchange rate shown after each overseas race is that for the day of the race or the immediately preceeding trading day if the raceday falls on a weekend or public holiday.                                                
The Hong Kong Jockey Club (hkjc) website at 'www.hkjc.com/english/racing' does not provide details of each placegetter's share of the the total prizemoney for each race.                                                  
Therefore I have used the placegetter's figure published by racingnsw.com.au (in AUD) and the UK's Racing Post ('www.racingpost.com') in UK pounds to estmate the horses share of the total prizemoney.                                                
                                                
I cannot reconcile my HKD earnings figures with those of the 'hkjc' which do not appear to include HKD earned from his first three starts in Australia (AUD 64,000).  The 'hkjc' details are                                                
Hong Kong Jockey Club figure for earnings excl. 3 Australian starts            HKD 75,410,500                                    
Australian earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 302,165                                    
Total Hong Kong Jockey Club earnings plus 3 Australian starts in HKD            HKD 75,712,665                                    
                                                
My earnings estimate is as follows                                                
Australian earnings in AUD            AUD 64,000                                    
Hong Kong earnings in HKD            HKD 46,850,000                                    
Dubai earnings in USD            USD 3,000,000                                    
Hong Kong earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 7,757,450.20                                    
Dubai earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 3,717,472.12                                    
Australian earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 302,164.58                                    
Dubai earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 23,443,866.17                                    
Worldwide earnings in HKD earnings based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 70,596,030.75                                    
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 11,538,922.32                                    
                                                
Difference in HKD earnings            HKD 5,116,633.83                                    
Assuming an average exchange rate of HKD 6.00 to AUD 1.00 the difference in AUD is in the vicnity of AUD 850,000 which is a significant sum.                                                
                                                
The 'racingnsw.com.au' AUD total of AUD $11,642,150 does not include the horses last three starts in Hong Hong which I estimate would add AUD 73,708.90 to the 'racingnsw' total.                                                  
                                                
I have located a 'racecard' on the 'hkjc' webside which records the total prizemoney money after his 10th Hong Kong start (19 Nov 2006) of HKD 40,356,000.                                                
My estmate to this point in time is HKD 34,865,000 (excluding 3 Australian starts) a difference of HKD 5,491,000  which suggests the difference relates to the first half of his career.                                                  
There could also be a difference in calculating his Dubai earnings from USD to HKD which occurred after 19 Nov 2006.                                                 
I suppose the horse might have earned a bonus which is not included in Australian or UK figures.                                                
Readers assistancce in sorting this out would be appreciated.                                                
                                                
                                                
TWO YEARS:  2002-2003  Starts 3: 1-0-1-1                                                
                                                
3rd-13   15/02/2003   0.8L x 1.3L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Talindert Stakes   1100m.   54kg   Steven King (5)   1.03.97.   Good3, $21.   Rosarino 51.5 $4.20F 1st   Gemini 54 $9.50 2nd         HKD 31,366.58   4.6469   AUD 6,750
1st-16   1/03/2003.   1L x 1.25L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Veuve Clicquot Chairman's Stakes   1200m.   54kg   Danny Nikolic (9)   1.09.78.   Good3, $10.   Winestock 58 $8.00 2nd   Fresh Boy 57 $12 3rd         HKD 232,538.80   4.7216   AUD 49,250
5th-14   10/03/2003.   1L x 1L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Sires Produce Stakes   1400m.   55.5kg   Danny Nikolic (2)   1.23.63.   Good3, $2.50F.   Winestock 55.5 $6.50 1st   Fresh Boy 55.5 $26 2nd         HKD 38,259.20   4.7824   AUD 8,000
                                                
THREE YEARS:  2003-2004  Starts 3: 0-1-1-1                                                
                                                
10th-14   1/05/2004.   1.25L x 0.1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Li Cup   1200m.   53kg   G Schofield (8)   1.09.40.   Good To Firm, $9.60.   Always Welcome 115 $7.30 1st   Country Music 116 $2.30F 2nd         HKD 0   5.6316   AUD 0.00
3rd-14   26/05/2004.   0.5L x 0.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Sheung Shui Hcp   1400m.   55kg   T Mundry (9)   1.22.10.   Good, $20.   Bumper Bumper 123 $2.00F 1st   My Choice 119 $5.60 2nd         HKD 115,000   5.5247   AUD 20,815.61
2nd-13   20/06/2004.   1.25L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hong Kong Racehorse Owners Association Trophy   1600m.   52kg   G Schofield (9)   1.35.50.   Good To Firm, $5.80.   Perfect Partner 133 $3.30F 1st   Lucky Paradise 125 $9.40 3rd         HKD 350,000.00   5.3176   AUD 65,819.17
                                                
FOUR YEARS:  2004-2005  Starts 6: 5-0-1-0                                                
                                                
3rd-13   11/09/2004.   Nse x 1.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Guangzhou Hcp   1600m.   57.5kg   D Whyte (13)   1.36.40.   Good To Firm, $3.00F   Asali 122 $7.20 1st   Floral Dynamite 128 $4.90 2nd         HKD 115,000   5.3708   AUD 21,412.08
                                                
1st-13   16/01/2005.   1.75L x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Fairy King Prawn Hcp   1600m.   52kg   A Delpech (12)   1.35.00.   Good To Firm, $17.   Grand Zulu 131 $2.30F 2nd    Lucky Paradise 120 $7.70 3rd         HKD 900,000   5.9173   AUD 152,096.40
1st-14   30/01/2005.   1.25L x 0.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Vase   2000m.   53.5kg   A Delpech (10)   2.04.40.   Good $3.30F.   Floral Dynamite 118 $8.60 2nd   Saturn 132 $11 3rd         HKD 1,300,000   6.0464   AUD 215,003.97
1st-14   13/03/2005.   2.75L x 0.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Mercedes-Benz Hong Kong Derby 2005 (G1)   2000m.   57.2kg   A Delpech (6)    2.04.30.   Good to Yielding, $3.00F.   Russian Pearl 126 $6.10 2nd   Sambuca 126 $8.00 3rd         HKD 8,000,000   6.1611   AUD 1,298,469.43
1st-13   24/04/2005.   0.75L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Audemars Piguet Queen Elizabeth II Cup (G1)   2000m.   57.2kg   A Delpech (3)   2.01.80.   Good To Firm, $5.70.   Greys Inn 126 $36 2nd   Russian Pearl 126 $6.30 3rd         HKD 8,000,000   6.0650   AUD 1,319,043.69
1st-9   29/05/2005.   0.5L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hong Kong Champions & Chater Cup (G1)   2400m.   57.2kg   A Delpech (4)    2.29.90.   Good, $1.40F.   Best Gift 126 $13 2nd   Saturn 126 $13 3rd         HKD 4,000,000   5.9096   AUD 676,864.76
                                                
FIVE YEARS:  2005-2006  Starts 4: 2-0-0-2                                                
                                                
8th-14   2/10/2005.   Nse x 1.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   National Day Cup Premier Hcp   1400m.   60.5kg   A Delpech (7)   1.21.80.   Good, $2.90F.   Fokine 113 $11 1st   Tiber 126 $7.50 2nd         HKD 0   5.9071   AUD 0.00
5th-14   16/10/2005.   0.75L x 0.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Sha Tin Trophy   1600m.   60.5kg   A Delpech (11)   1.34.20.   Good To Firm, $6.80.   Best Gift 118 $6.40 1st   Tiber 128 $5.90 2nd         HKD 80,000   5.8319   AUD 13,717.66
1st-8   13/11/2005.   Sht hd x 0.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific International Cup Trial    2000m.   58kg   A Delpech (3)    2.02.70.   Good To Firm, $1.90F.   Green Treasure 123 $17 2nd   Best Gift 123 $3.60 3rd         HKD 1,700,000   5.6808   AUD 299,253.63
1st-10   11/12/2005.   Nse x 1.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Cup (G1)   2000m.   57kg   A Delpech (4)    2.04.50.   Good To Firm, $1.80F.   Pride 122 $11 2nd   Maraahel 126 $11 3rd         HKD 10,200,000   5.8301   AUD 1,749,541.17
                                                
SIX YEARS:  2006-2007  Starts 8: 2-2-1-3                                                 
                                                
10th-14   29/10/2006.   Sht hd x 1.1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   HSBC Premier Bowl   1200m.   60.5kg   A Delpech (14)   1.08.10.   Good To Firm, $85.   Absolute Champion 111 $35 1st   Sunny Sing 118 $9.50 2nd         HKD 0   5.9503   AUD 0.00
5th-11   19/11/2006.   0.75L x 0.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific International Mile Trial    1600m.   58kg   A Delpech (9)   1.34.00.   Good To Firm, $12.   Armada 123 $2.70F 1st   The Duke 123 $16 2nd         HKD 105,000   5.9677   AUD 17,594.72
3rd-12   10/12/2006.   Sht hd x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Cup    2000m.   57kg   A Delpech (2)   2.01.60.   Good To Firm, $5.00.   Pride 122 $3.50 1st   Admire Moon 123 $11 2nd         HKD 2,000,000   6.1314   AUD 326,189.78
                                                 
5th-13   28/01/2007.   1.25L x 0.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Steward's Cup    1600m.   57kg   A Delpech (2)   1.34.10.   Good To Firm $9.10.   Armada 126 $2.10F 1st   Hello Pretty 126 $7.10 2nd         HKD 280,000   6.0845   AUD 46,018.57
1st-8   4/03/2007.   Nse x 0.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hong Kong Gold Cup (G1)   2000m.   57kg   A Delpech (7)   2.04.40.   Good To Firm, $2.90.   Viva Pataca 126 $1.90F 2nd   Bullish Luck 126 $8.60 3rd         HKD 4,600,000   6.1323   AUD 750,126.38
1st-14   31/03/2007.   1.25L x 0.5L   Nad Al Sheba, Dubai, UAE   Dubai Sheema Classic Sponsored by Nakheel (G1)   2400m. (turf)   56kg   A Delpech (4)    2.31.03.   Good   Oracle West (SAF) 56 2nd   Youmzain (IRE) 56 3rd    USD 3,000,000   0.8070   HKD 23,443,866.17   6.3064   AUD 3,717,472.12
2nd-10   29/04/2007.   1.75L x 0.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Audemars Piguet Queen Elizabeth II Cup   2000m.   57kg   A Delpech (8)   2.02.10.   Good To Firm, $4.40.   Viva Pataca 126 $7.50 1st   Admire Moon 126 $1.60F 3rd         HKD 3,000,000   6.4527   AUD 464,921.66
2nd-7   3/06/2007.   3.25L x 4.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hong Kong Champions and Chater Cup   2400m.    57kg   A Delpech (1)   2.24.60.   Good To Firm, $1.60F.   Viva Pataca 126 $2.50 1st   Viva Macau 126 $19 3rd         HKD 1,600,000   6.4816   AUD 246,852.63
                                                
SEVEN YEARS:  2007-2008  Starts 3: 0-0-0-3                                                
                                                
5th-11   17/11/2007.   Nse x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific International Mile Trial    1600m.   58kg   K Shea (7)   1.33.20.   Good To Firm, $27.   Good Ba Ba 123 $2.30F 1st   Floral Pegasus 128 $7.40 2nd         HKD 105,000   6.8938   AUD 15,231.08
6th-7   9/12/2007.   0.5L x 2.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Cup    2000m.   57kg   A Delpech (7)   2.02.80.   Good, $9.40.   Ramonti 126 $4.80 1st   Viva Pataca 126 $1.30F 2nd         HKD 400,000   6.8402   AUD 58,477.82
                                                
PU-9    2/02/2008.   3L x 1.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Vase   1800m.   60.5kg   A Delpech (6)   1.48.90.   Yielding, $7.70.   Bullish Luck 123 $9.20 1st   Vital King 123 $10 2nd         HKD 0   7.1414   AUD 0.00
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« 2016-Jan-03, 11:18 AM Reply #1026 »
As I was not able to reconcile the total Hong Kong (HKD) earnings of Vengeance of Rain (see post above) with HKD earnings from each start I thought I would attempt the same task with Silent Witness as a check on my overall methodology.  Unfortunately I have the same problem.  Details follow.                                                
                                                
SILENT WITNESS (AUS) 1999
(had one recorded trial at Ballarat Australia under the name of 'Eltira' (ran first) before being exported to Hong Kong)                                                
29 starts, 18 wins (7 x Group 1), 3 seconds and 2 thirds.  Win % 62.1, Place % 79.3.                                                 
Raced in Hong Kong (26 starts) and Japan (3 starts)                                                
The Hong Kong Jockey Club (hkjc) website at 'www.hkjc.com/english/racing' does not provide details of each placegetter's share of the the total prizemoney for each race.                                                  
Therefore I have used the placegetter's figure published by UK's Racing Post ('www.racingpost.com') in UK pounds to estimate the horses share of the total prizemoney.                                                
I have included estimated Hong Kong dollars (HKD) and Australian equivalent prizemoney (AUD) after each race start using the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) Daily Indicative Rates to convert Hong Kong earnings and Japan earnings into AUD.  The daily exchange rate shown after each overseas race is that for the day of the race or the immediately preceeding trading day if the raceday falls on a weekend or public holiday.                                                
I cannot reconcile my HKD earnings figures with those of the 'hkjc' which do not appear to include HKD earned from his first three starts in Australia (AUD 64,000).  The 'hkjc' details are                                                
I suppose the horse might have earned a bonus which is not included in the UK figures.  Australian details (eg at 'racingnsw' are incomplete so of no assistance.                                                 
Readers assistance in sorting this out would be appreciated.                                                
Japan race earnings in JPY for each Japan start can be found by searching www.jbis.jp/horse and I assume there is no dispute about the accuracy of these details.                                                
                                                
                                                
SUMMARY OF WORLDWIDE EARNINGS                                                
                                                
Australian earnings in AUD            AUD 0                                    
Hong Kong earnings in HKD            HKD 43,248,334   estimate                                 
Japan earnings in JPY            JPY 135,912,000                                    
                                                
Australian earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 0.00                                    
Hong Kong earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 7,528,413.15   estimate                                 
Japan earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 1,591,323.13                                    
Japan earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 9,381,142.47                                    
Worldwide earnings in HKD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            HKD 52,629,476.48   estimate                                 
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 9,119,736.28   estimate                                 
                                                
Total Stakes per Hong Kong Jockey Club website            HKD 62,496,396                                    
Difference            HKD 9,866,919.52                                    
                                                
racingpost' worldwide earnings in GBP            GBP 3,862,378                                    
Worldwide earnings in GBP based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            GBP 3,748,104.86                                    
Difference            -GBP 114,273.14                                    
Rough difference in AUD assuming an average of GBP 0.4051 pence to AUD 1.00            -AUD 282,086.26                                    
Rough difference in HKD assuming an average of HKD 5.6641 to AUD 1.00            -HKD 1,597,764.77                                    
Two races have a combined difference of GBP 60,000  with only minor differences for most starts.  This suggests the methodology adopted is broadly correct and the differences might be due to the exchange rates used by the 'racing post'.                                                  
However this does not explain the diference in the 'official' Hong Kong Jockey Club total earnings and my estimate                                                 
                                                
Living Legends website estimate career earnings over AUD 9,000,000                                                
Wikipedia has earnings of HKD 62,496,396 (USD 8 million)                                                
                                                
RACING RECORD                                                
                                                
TWO YEARS:  2001-2002  Starts 0:  0-0-0-0                                                
                                                
Did not race                                                
                                                
THREE YEARS:  2002-2003  Starts 5: 5-0-0-0                                                
                                                
1st-14   26/12/2002.   3.75L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hennessey Hcp   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (9)   0.57.80.   Good, $2.40F.   Amazing Victory 124 $27 2nd   Winning Streak 126 $43 3rd   HKD rate 4.3803 to AUD 1.00.   HKD 324,900.00   AUD 74,173.00   
                                                
1st-14   19/01/2003.   2.5L x 0.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Mastermind Hcp   1200m.   130lbs   59kg   F. Coetzee (14)   1.09.80.   Good to Firm, $3.60.   Jolly Gains 126 $4.10 2nd   Kingston Winner 131 $1.80 3rd   4.5976   HKD 399,000.00   AUD 86,784.41   
1st-14   23/02/2003.   0.75L x 3.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Gay Eighties Hcp   1000m.   120lbs   54.5kg   F. Coetzee (12)   0.55.50.   Good to Firm, $1.50F.   Hidden Dragon 118 $6.40 2nd   Super Sprint 116 $40 3rd   4.6735   HKD 570,000.00   AUD 121,964.27   
1st-14   23/03/2003.   1L x 1.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Sound Print Hcp   1200m.   129lbs   58.5kg   F. Coetzee (6)   1.09.60.   Good, $1.30F.   Gallant Knight 117 $79 2nd   Helene Elegance 115 $28 3rd   4.6273   HKD 912,000.00   AUD 197,091.18   
1st-7   07/06/2003.   3.75L x 0.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Sha Tin Vase   1000m.   113lbs   51.5kg   F. Coetzee (5)   0.57.20.   Good to Yielding, $1.50F.   General Kingy 113 $28 2nd   Grand Delight 133 $3.10 3rd   5.1954   HKD 1,710,000.00   AUD 329,137.31   
                                                
FOUR YEARS:  2003-2004  Starts 6: 6-0-0-0                                                
                                                
1st-14   11/10/2003.   Nse x 1.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Sha Tin Sprint Trophy   1000   127lbs   57.5kg   F. Coetzee (2)   0.55.70.   Good, $1.50F.   Planet Ruler 113 $10 2nd   Firebolt 129 $9.00 3rd   5.3294   HKD 1,311,000.00   AUD 245,993.92   
1st-9   22/11/2003.   2.5L x 1.25L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   International Sprint Trial   1000m.   123lbs   56kg   F. Coetzee (2)   0.56.30.   Good to Firm, $1.50.   Cheerful Fortune 123 $3.70 2nd   Firebolt 123 $14 3rd   5.6005   HKD 1,710,000.00   AUD 305,329.88   
1st-14   14/12/2003.   1L x 0.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Hong Kong Sprint (G1)   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (11)   0.56.50.   Good to Firm, $1.30.   National Currency 126 $7.00 2nd   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $65 3rd   5.7535   HKD 5,700,000.00   AUD 990,701.31   
                                                
1st-7   01/02/2004.   2.75L x 0.1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Bauhinia Sprint Trophy (G1)   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (1)   0.56.50.   Good to Firm, $1.00.   Firebolt 126 $21 2nd   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $26 3rd   5.9424   HKD 2,565,000.42   AUD 431,643.85   
1st-10   13/03/2004.   2.5L x 0.5L    Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Sprint Cup (G1)   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (5)   0.56.20.   Good to Firm, $1.10.   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $12 2nd   Firebolt 126 $22 3rd   5.6783   HKD 2,564,999.92   AUD 451,719.69   
1st-13   25/04/2004.   2.25L x 0.1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Chairman's Sprint Prize (G1)   1200m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (2)   1.08.50.   Good to Firm, $1.10.   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $37 2nd   Electronic Unicorn 126 $31 3rd   5.7289   HKD 2,564,999.92   AUD 447,729.92   
                                                
FIVE YEARS:  2004-2005  Starts 8: 6-1-1-0                                                
                                                
1st-10   21/11/2004.   1L x 1.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific International Sprint Trial   1000m.   128lbs   58kg   F. Coetzee (9)   0.55.90.   Good to Firm, $1.20.   Able Prince 123 $46 2nd   Scintillation 123 $4.50 3rd   6.0326   HKD 1,710,000.03   AUD 283,459.87   
1st-14   12/12/2004.   1.75L x 2.5L    Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Sprint (G1)   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (6)   0.56.80.   Good to Firm, $1.30.   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $44 2nd   Natural Blitz 126 $66 3rd   5.8423   HKD 5,712,072.92   AUD 977,709.62   
                                                
1st-7   23/01/2005.   1.75L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Bauhinia Sprint Trophy   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (1)   0.55.70.   Good, $1.00.   Country Music 126 $68 2nd   Planet Ruler 126 $44 3rd   5.9096   HKD 2,564,998.06   AUD 434,039.20   
1st-11   27/02/2005.   2L x 4.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Sprint Cup (G1)   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (10)   0.56.70.   Good to Yielding, $1.00.   Country Music 126 $18 2nd   Multidandy 126 $55 3rd   6.1244   HKD 2,564,999.99   AUD 418,816.54   
1st-14   03/04/2005.   1.75L x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Chairman's Sprint Prize (G1)   1200m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (13)   1.08.40.   Good to Firm, $1.00.   Tiber (IRE) 126 $99 2nd   Cape Of Good Hope (GB) 126 $45 3rd   6.0289   HKD 2,564,998.06   AUD 425,450.42   
1st-11   24/04/2005.   1.75L x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Queen's Silver Jubilee Cup    1400m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (1)   1.21.80.   Good to Firm, $1.00.   Town of Fionn 126 $91 2nd   Planet Ruler 126 $42 3rd   6.0650   HKD 1,710,000.14   AUD 281,945.61   
2nd-13   14/05/2005.   Sht Hd x 1.9L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Champions Mile   1600m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (1)   1.33.70.   Good to Firm 1.2/1F   Bullish Luck 126 $9.30 1st   Ain't Here 126 $53 3rd   5.9635   HKD 1,799,993.66   AUD 301,835.11   
3rd-18   5/06/2005.   Nk x hd   Tokyo, JAPAN   Yasuda Kinen   1600m.   128lbs   58kg   F. Coetzee (12)   1.32.30.   Firm, 8.6.   Asakusa Den'en (GB) 58 12.3 1st   Sweep Tosho (JPN) 56 17.6 2nd   JPY 24,552,000, JPY rate 81.5400 to AUD 1.00.   HKD rate 5.8861 to AUD 1.00.   HKD 1,772,326.80   AUD 301,103.75
                                                
SIX YEARS:  2005-2006  Starts 5: 1-1-1-3                                                
                                                
1st-16   2/10/2005.   1.75L x 0.5L   Nakayama, JAPAN    Sprinters Stakes (G1)   1200m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (13)   1.07.30.   Firm, 2.0F.    Durandal (JPN) 57 3.8 2nd   Admire Max (JPN) 57 10.7 3rd   JPY 97,360,000, JPY rate 86.0500 to AUD 1.00.   HKD rate 5.9071 to AUD 1.00.   HKD 6,683,500.94   AUD 1,131,435.21
                                                
7th-10   26/02/2006.   0.5L x 0.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Sprint Cup   1000m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (9)   0.56.30.   Good to Firm, $1.50.   Scintillation 126 $4.20 1st   Natural Blitz 126 $17 2nd   5.7438   HKD 0.00   AUD 0.00   
3rd-11   26/03/2006.   Hd x 1.75L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Chairman's Sprint Prize   1200m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (2)   1.09.70.   Yielding, $3.20.   Billet Express 126 $25 1st   Scintillation 126 $2.30F 2nd   5.5180   HKD 517,505.59   AUD 93,784.99   
2nd-8   15/04/2006.   0.5L x 1.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Queen's Silver Jubilee Cup    1400m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (3)   1.21.60.   Good to Firm, $3.20.   Joyful Winner 126 $1.70F 1st   High Intelligent 126 $53 3rd   5.6649   HKD 989,996.81   AUD 174,759.80   
9th-13   07/05/2006.   1.5L x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Champions Mile   1600m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (7)   1.33.70.   Good to Firm, $2.50F.   Bullish Luck 126 $12 1st   Danacourt 126 $4.70 2nd   5.9546   HKD 0.00   AUD 0.00   
                                                
SEVEN YEARS:  2006-2007  Starts 5: 0-1-0-4                                                
                                                
4th-16   1/10/2006.   2.5L x nk   Nakayama, JAPAN   (40th) Sprinters Stakes   1200m.   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (14)   1.08.10.   Firm, 6.3.   Takeover Target (AUS) 57 4.2 1st   Meisho Bowler (JPN) 57 20.6 2nd   JPY 14,00,0000, JPY rate 88.1700 to AUD 1.00.   HKD rate  5.8275 to AUD 1.00.   HKD 925,314.73   AUD 158,784.17
DH 4th-13   19/11/2006.   Nse x 1.5L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific International Sprint Trial   1000m.   123lbs   56kg   F. Coetzee (11)   0.56.20.   Good to Firm, $4.60.   Able Prince 123 $16 1st   Down Town 123 $5.10 2nd   5.9677   HKD 141,870.62   AUD 23,773.08   
2nd-12   10/12/2006.   4.25L x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Cathay Pacific Hong Kong Sprint   1200   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (2)   1.07.80.   Good to Firm, $7.00.   Absolute Champion 126 $6.40 1st   Benbaun 126 $39 3rd   6.1314   HKD 2,639,997.87   AUD 430,570.16   
7th-14   01/01/2007.   Nse x 2L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Chinese Club Challenge    1400   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (8)   1.20.60.   Good to Firm, $3.10F.   Floral Pegasus 121 $5.40 1st   Down Town 119 $6.80 2nd   6.1509   HKD 0.00   AUD 0.00   
9th-10   04/02/2007.   0.75L x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   Centenary Sprint Cup   1000   126lbs   57kg   F. Coetzee (9)   0.56.40.   Good to Firm, $8.10.   Scintillation 126 $3.60 1st   Absolute Champion 126 $1.70F 2nd   6.0331   HKD 0.00   AUD 0.00   
                                                
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« 2016-Jan-10, 04:06 AM Reply #1027 »
Buffering's record updated to 9/01/2016.

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« 2016-Jan-10, 10:35 AM Reply #1028 »
I'm wondering when  So You Think will be included?

He was without doubt the best middle distance horse we have had in Australia for many a long year.

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« 2016-Jan-14, 07:29 PM Reply #1029 »
SO YOU THINK (NZ) 2006                                     
23 starts, 14 wins (10 x Group 1), 4 seconds and 1 third.  Win % 60.9, Place % 82.6.                                    
                                    
Summary of career earnings                                    
Australian earnings in AUD         AUD 5,734,350                           
Ireland earnings in EUROS         €754,950.00                           
France earnings in EUROS         €228,400.00                           
England earnings in GBP         GBP 875,970.00                           
Dubai earnings in USD         USD 500,000.00                           
USA earnings in USD         USD 0.00                           
                                    
Earnings in other currencies based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates                                    
Australian earnings in EUROS         €3,844,223.11                           
Australian earnings in GBP         GBP 3,403,152.76                           
Australian earnings in USD         USD 5,480,803.24                           
Ireland earnings in AUD         AUD 1,001,873.75                           
Ireland earnings in GBP         GBP 654,698.01                           
Ireland earnings in USD         USD 951,060.16                           
France earnings in AUD         AUD 316,650.49                           
France earnings in GBP         GBP 198,508.19                           
France earnings in USD         USD 309,715.85                           
England earnings in AUD         AUD 1,341,447.70                           
England earnings in EUROS         €1,020,374.42                           
England earnings in USD         USD 1,293,761.18                           
Dubai earnings in AUD         AUD 480,676.79                           
Dubai earnings in EUROS         €374,351.09                           
Dubai earnings in GBP         GBP 312,776.39                           
                                    
Worldwide earnings in GBP based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates         GBP 5,445,105.35                           
Worldwide earnings in EUROS based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates         €6,222,298.61                           
Worldwide earnings in USD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates         USD 8,535,340.42                           
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates         AUD 8,874,998.73                           
                                    
Other sources of worldwide earnings                                    
Coolmore.com stallions advert stating earnings in Euros         almost € 7million.                           
wikipedia.org in AUD         AUD 10,749,800                           
www.racing.com and racingnsw.com.au in AUD         AUD 8,813,497                           
www.equibase.com  in USD         USD 8,696,325                           
www.racingpost.com in GBP         GBP 5,058,956                           
The footnote to the wikipedia entry claims the figure came from the ASB.  If any reader has a subscription to the Australian Stud Book perhaps they can check the details and report back.                                     
                                    
I have shown So You Think's racing record in two parts:                                    
PART A below does not include earnings for each start.                                      
PART B sets out exchange rates to AUD for British pounds (GBP), Euros (€) for races in France and Ireland, and US dollars (USD) for races in USA and Dubai. Earnings from each race start is shown in each of those currencies and in Australian dollars (AUD) and is based on the Reserve Bank of Australia Daily Indicative Rates to AUD for the day of the race or the trading day immediately before the race day.                                     
The prizemoney for the four wins in Ireland include €725, €2,000 €8,000 and €2,100 respectively which I assume is the value of trophies awarded.  I have not been able to confirm these amounts from a second source.                                    
It seems that the value of trophies is generally not included in earnings outside Australia and New Zealand.                                    
                                    
PART A                                    
                                    
TWO YEARS:  2008-2009  Starts 1: 1-0-0-0                                    
                                    
1st-12   20/05/2009.   1.3L x 0.2L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Freeway Hotel Artarmon Hcp       1400m.      57kg   1.26.46.   Hvy8, $6.00.   Shamash 56.5 $5.00EF 2nd   Eight Thorns 56.5 $8.00 3rd
                                    
THREE YEARS:  2009-2010  Starts 5: 2-2-0-1                                    
                                    
2nd-9   5/09/2009.   Nse x 1.3L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Jim Beam Ming Dynasty Quality       1400m.      53kg   1.21.03 (CR).   Good3, $10.00.   More Than Great 54.5 $1.95F 1st   Exceed With Me 53 $6.50 3rd
1st-10   19/09/2009.   0.75L x 1L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Gloaming Stakes      1800m.      56.5kg   1.50.86.   Good3, $1.55F.   Gathering 56.5 $6.00 2nd   Heraklion 56.5 $13 3rd
5th-11   10/10/2009.   2.75L x 0.75L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   The Age Caulfield Guineas       1600m.      55.5kg   1.35.69.   Good3, $6.00.   Starspangledbanner 55.5 $13 1st    Carrara 55.5 $19 2nd
1st-13   24/10/2009.   2.5L x 0.4L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Tatts Cox Plate (G1)      2040m.      49.5kg   2.03.98.   Good3, $14.00.   Manhattan Rain 49.5 $19 2nd   Zipping 59 $12 3rd
2nd-15   7/11/2009.   2.5L x 0.3L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Emirates Stakes      1600m.      53.5kg   1.33.98.   Good3, 3.90F.   All American 53 $41 1st    Gold Salute 55 $8.00 3rd
                                    
FOUR YEARS:  2010-2011  Starts 10: 8-1-1-0                                     
                                    
1st-11   28/08/2010.   0.5L x 1L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   New Zealand Bloodstock Memsie Stakes       1400m.      58.5kg   1.26.68.   Slow7, $6.50.   Whobegotyou 59 $11 2nd    Shoot Out 58.5 $3.00F 3rd
1st-11   18/09/2010.   2.25L x 0.1L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Rokk Ebony Underwood Stakes (G1)      1800m.      58kg   1.49.54.   Good3, $1.75F.   Dariana 56 $31 2nd    Metal Bender (NZ) 59 $8.00 3rd
1st-6   9/10/2010.   3.25L x 1.5L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Yalumba Stakes (G1)      2000m.      58kg   2.02.45.   Good3, $1.40F.   Alcopop 59 $41 2nd    Whobegotyou 59 $4.00 3rd
1st-10   23/10/2010.   1.25L x 0.2L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Tatts Cox Plate (G1)      2040m.      57.5kg   2.07.45.   Dead4, $1.50F.   Zipping 59 $17 2nd    Whobegotyou 59 $15 3rd
1st-12   30/10/2010.   3.75L x 1.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Longines Mackinnon Stakes (G1)      2000m.      58kg   2.04.92.   Dead4, $1.60F.   Descarado (NZ) 58 $13 2nd    Ginga Dude (NZ) 59 $18 3rd
3rd-23   2/11/2010.   2.75L x 0.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Emirates Melbourne Cup      3200m.      56kg   3.26.87.   Slow6, $3.00F   Americain (USA) 54.5 $13 1st     Maluckyday (NZ) 51 $9.00 2nd
                                    
1st-6   2/05/2011.   10L x 2L   Curragh, County Kildare, IRE   High Chaparral European Breeders Fund Mooresbridge Stakes   Abt 10f.   Abt 2000m.   9.6.   60kg   2.12.84   Good to Firm, 2/13F   Bob Le Beau (IRE) 9/1 9.1 2nd   Mid Mon Lady (IRE) 33/1 8.12 3rd
 1st-5   22/05/2011.   4.5L x 2.5L   Curragh, County Kildare, IRE   Tattersalls Gold Cup (G1)   10.5f.   2112m.   9.1.   57.5kg   2.14.08.   Good to Firm, 1/7F.   Campanologist (USA)  9.1 14/1 2nd   Famous Name (GB) 9.1 7/1 3rd
2nd-7   15/06/2011.   Nk x 6L   Ascot, York, UK   Prince of Wales's Stakes (British Champions' Series)   10f.   2011m.   9.0.   57kg   2.04.24.   Good, 4/11F.   Rewilding (GB) 9.0 17/2 1st   Sri Putra (GB) 9.0 66/1 3rd
1st-5   2/07/2011.   0.5L x 5L   Sandown Park, London, UK   Coral-Eclipse (British Champions' Series)  (G1)   10f 7yds   2018m.   9.7   60kg   2.04.77.   Good, 4/6F.   Workforce (GB) 9.7 7/4 2nd   Sri Putra (GB) 9.7 33/1 3rd
                                    
FIVE YEARS:  2011-2012  Starts 6: 2-1-0-3                                    
                                    
1st-6^   3/09/2011.   0.5L x 5L   Leopardstown, Dublin, IRE   Red Mills Irish Champion Stakes (G1)   10f.   2011m.   9.7.   60kg   2.04.20.   Good, 1/4F.   Snow Fairy (IRE) 9.4 14/1 2nd   Famous Name (UK) 9.7 6/1 3rd
4th-16   2/10/2011.   5L x nk   Longchamp, Paris, FRA   Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe      2400m.   9.5.      2.24.49.   Good, 9/2.   Danedream (GER) 20/1 1st   Shareta (IRE) 66/1 2nd
2nd-12*   15/10/2011.   0.75L x 0.5L   Ascot, York, UK   Qipco Champion Stakes (British Champions Middle Distance)   10f.   2011m.   9.3   58.5kg   2.02.52. (CR)   Good, 7/4F.   Cirrus des Aigles (FR) 9.3 12/1 1st   Snow Fairy (IRE) 9.0 8/1 3rd
6th-12   5/11/2011.   1.25L x 1L   Churchill Downs, Kentucky, USA   Breeders' Cup Classic   10f. (dirt)   2011m.   126lbs   57kg   2.04.72 OR 27.  (CR, Secretariat 1.59.4, 5 May 1973)   Fast, $5.30.   Drosselmeyer 126 $14.80 1st   Game On Dude 126 $14.20 2nd
                                    
4th-13   31/03/2012.   3L x 0.5L x 0.5L   Meydan, Dubai, UAE   Dubai World Cup Sponsored By Emirates Airline      2000m. (Tapeta)   9.0.   57kg   2.02.67.   Tapeta, 5/4F.    Monterosso (GB) 57 20/1 1st   Capponi (IRE) 57 11/1 2nd
 1st-5   27/05/2012.   6L X 7.5L   Curragh, County Kildare, IRE   Tattersalls Gold Cup (G1)   10.5f.   2112m.   9.1.   57.5kg   2.15.65.   Good to Firm 2/11F.   Famous Name (GB) 9.1 7/1 2nd     Robin Hood (IRE) 9.1 33/1 3rd
1st-11^^   20/06/2012.   2.25L X 0.5L   Ascot, York, UK   150th Anniversary of the Prince of Wales’s Stakes (British Champions Series) (G1)   10f.   2011m.   9.0.   57kg   2.03.86.   Good, 4/5F.   Carlton House (USA) 9.0 7/2 2nd   Farhh (GB) 9.0 6/1 3rd
^With 8 G1 wins from 17 starts, this is the least number of starts by an Australian or New Zealand racehorse to 8 G1 wins.  Ajax and Black Caviar took 18 starts.                                    
* Cirrus des Aigles jockey was fined and suspended for overuse of the whip.  The placings were not altered.                                    
^^ 14th Australian or New Zealand horse that raced in the antipodes to win 10 or more Group 1 races, commencing with Wakeful (AUS) 1896 with 11 Group 1 wins (Black Caviar (AUS) 2006 was the 13th with 15 Group 1 wins).  So You Think took 23 starts to notch his 10th Group 1 win, one more than Ajax (AUS) 1934 and three more than Black Caviar (the fastest).                                     
                                    
                                    
PART B                                    
         RBA Indicative Daily Rates to AUD to GBP   RBA Indicative Daily Rates to AUD to Euro   RBA Indicative Daily Rates AUD to USD   GBP earnings based on RBA Indicative Daily Rates   EURO earnings based on RBA Indicative Daily Rates   USD earnings based on RBA Indicative Daily Rates   AUD earnings based on RBA Indicative Daily Rates         
TWO YEARS:  2008-2009  Starts 1: 1-0-0-0                                    
                                    
1st-12   20/05/2009.   Freeway Hotel Artarmon Hcp    0.4978   0.5661   0.7695   GBP 8,736.39   €9,935.06   USD 13,504.73   AUD 17,550         
                                    
THREE YEARS:  2009-2010  Starts 5: 2-2-0-1                                    
                                    
2nd-9   5/09/2009.   Jim Beam Ming Dynasty Quality    0.5139   0.5888   0.8401   GBP 9,764.10   €11,187.20   USD 15,961.90   AUD 19,000         
1st-10   19/09/2009.   Gloaming Stakes   0.5314   0.5910   0.8702   GBP 87,309.02   €97,101.30   USD 142,973.86   AUD 164,300         
5th-11   10/10/2009.   The Age Caulfield Guineas    0.5646   0.6142   0.9048   GBP 14,115.00   €15,355.00   USD 22,620.00   AUD 25,000         
1st-13   24/10/2009.   Tatts Cox Plate (G1)   0.5578   0.6178   0.9288   GBP 1,031,930.00   €1,142,930.00   USD 1,718,280.00   AUD 1,850,000         
2nd-15   7/11/2009.   Emirates Stakes   0.5500   0.6140   0.9133   GBP 99,000.00   €110,520.00   USD 164,394.00   AUD 180,000         
                                    
FOUR YEARS:  2010-2011  Starts 10: 8-1-1-0                                     
                                    
1st-11   28/08/2010.   New Zealand Bloodstock Memsie Stakes    0.5719   0.6973   0.8874   GBP 69,199.90   €84,373.30   USD 107,375.40   AUD 121,000         
1st-11   18/09/2010.   Rokk Ebony Underwood Stakes (G1)   0.6015   0.7195   0.9448   GBP 127,518.00   €152,534.00   USD 200,297.60   AUD 212,000         
1st-6   9/10/2010.   Yalumba Stakes (G1)   0.6187   0.7050   0.9835   GBP 150,344.10   €171,315.00   USD 238,990.50   AUD 243,000         
1st-10   23/10/2010.   Tatts Cox Plate (G1)   0.6252   0.7044   0.9835   GBP 1,156,620.00   €1,303,140.00   USD 1,819,475.00   AUD 1,850,000         
1st-12   30/10/2010.   Longines Mackinnon Stakes (G1)   0.6125   0.7029   0.9761   GBP 369,031.25   €423,497.25   USD 588,100.25   AUD 602,500         
3rd-23   2/11/2010.   Emirates Melbourne Cup   0.6213   0.7163   0.9974   GBP 279,585.00   €322,335.00   USD 448,830.00   AUD 450,000         
                                    
                                    
                                    
1st-6   2/05/2011.   High Chaparral European Breeders Fund Mooresbridge Stakes   0.6561   0.7395   1.0939   GBP 42,453.53   €47,850.00   USD 59,151.55   AUD 64,705.88         
 1st-5   22/05/2011.   Tattersalls Gold Cup (G1)   0.6569   0.7444   1.0665   GBP 116,748.89   €132,300.00   USD 166,645.13   AUD 177,727.03         
2nd-7   15/06/2011.   Prince of Wales's Stakes (British Champions' Series)   0.6541   0.7427   1.0707   GBP 86,080.00   €97,739.82   USD 122,910.87   AUD 131,600.67         
1st-5   2/07/2011.   Coral-Eclipse (British Champions' Series)  (G1)   0.6669   0.7383   1.0715   GBP 226,840.00   €251,126.06   USD 317,443.72   AUD 340,140.95         
                                    
FIVE YEARS:  2011-2012  Starts 6: 2-1-0-3                                    
                                    
1st-6   3/09/2011.   Red Mills Irish Champion Stakes (G1)   0.6611   0.7510   1.0702   GBP 389,529.63   €442,500.00   USD 550,564.74   AUD 589,214.38         
4th-16   2/10/2011.   Qatar Prix de l'Arc de Triomphe   0.6269   0.7213   0.9781   GBP 198,508.19   €228,400.00   USD 309,715.85   AUD 316,650.49         
2nd-12   15/10/2011.   Qipco Champion Stakes (British Champions Middle Distance)   0.6470   0.7400   1.0192   GBP 279,500.00   €319,675.43   USD 423,855.79   AUD 431,993.82         
6th-12   5/11/2011.   Breeders' Cup Classic   0.6482   0.7515   1.0383   GBP 0.00   €0.00   USD 0.00   AUD 0.00         
                                    
4th-13   31/03/2012.   Dubai World Cup Sponsored By Emirates Airline   0.6507   0.7788   1.0402   GBP 312,776.39   €374,351.09   USD 500,000.00   AUD 480,676.79         
 1st-5   27/05/2012.   Tattersalls Gold Cup (G1)   0.6225   0.7772   0.9744   GBP 105,965.97   €132,300.00   USD 174,698.74   AUD 170,226.45         
1st-11   20/06/2012.   150th Anniversary of the Prince of Wales’s Stakes (British Champions Series) (G1)   0.6478   0.8038   1.0190   GBP 283,550.00   €351,833.11   USD 429,550.79   AUD 437,712.26         
                                    
               Worldwide earnings   GBP 5,445,105.35   € 6,222,298.61   USD 8,535,340.42   AUD 8,874,998.73         
                                    
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« 2016-Jan-15, 10:05 AM Reply #1030 »
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« 2016-Jan-15, 10:34 AM Reply #1031 »
A very commendable effort by Tim in dealing  with exchange rates and so calculating the prizemoney amassed by champions.

However it seems to me that a far more intractable problem is lining up prizemoney over the years as inflation, together with the changing contribution of the thoroughbred industry to the general economy, distorts the worth of prizemoney as a measure of a horse's worth.  What Archer got for winning his cup is very different from Peter Pan, which is different again from Galilee and different again from Prince of Penzance.

Then there is the quality of opposition that needs to be taken into account in judging the worth of any particular horse.

We are fortunate that our two major contributors to this thread, Tontonon and timw, are very aware of these limitations.

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« 2016-Jan-15, 01:24 PM Reply #1032 »
All this currency talk leads me to...

The Guinea

The guinea is a coin of approximately one quarter ounce of gold that was minted in Britain  between 1663 and 1814.  It was the first British machine-struck gold coin, originally worth one pound sterling, equal to twenty shillings, but rises in the price of gold relative to silver caused the value of the guinea to increase, at times to as high as thirty shillings. From 1717 to 1816, its value was officially fixed at twenty-one shillings. Then, Great Britain adopted the gold standard and guinea became a colloquial or specialised term.

The name came from the Guinea region in West Africa, where much of the gold used to make the coins originated. Although no longer circulated, the term guinea survives in some circles, notably horse racing, and other livestock, to mean an amount of one pound and one shilling (21 shillings).

The adoption of the guinea as the currency of horse racing (and the trading of other livestock) was because of the 21 shillings a guinea was worth in any trade 1 shilling belonged to the auctioneer as commission.



Curious fact :  While a standardized guinea was worth 21 shillings, the original value of the piece was a quarter of an ounce of gold.  Currently gold is worth in the order of $1100 an ounce and a quarter of an ounce $275. So 2000 guineas is worth $550,000 or £265,666.  Curiously the current value of the English classic known as the 2000 guineas is £282,841...

...well, I thought it was curious as very few races have maintained any sort of relative consistency in terms of prizemoney through the ages but the 2000 Guineas has, and it makes me wonder if there isn't some sort of convention that it should be so.  The British do love a good convention...



And while I am here a photo of the great horse...

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« 2016-Jan-16, 09:10 AM Reply #1033 »
I have been thinking about developing an index to measure relative prize money for quite some time.  The only long term constant I can think of is the Australian basic / minimum wage data which goes back about 100 years.  Not sure whether the CPI would be useful as the components keep changing and a 100 years of data might not exist. It might be difficult to use a fairly standard product such as 500 grams of butter because of the difficulty of factoring in manufacturing and distribution efficiencies and relating it back to horse racing. Bigger problem using cars, the model T Ford and the modern car are incomparable. To put it simply what is the technical issue we would be trying to solve.  If there are any economists out there with any ideas let me know.  We probably have enough stuff on this site now to make an index worthwhile if we can solve the technical issue. I will talk to an economist but my guess is I won't have a solution very soon and whatever the solution is will require a lot of work.     
 

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« 2016-Jan-17, 11:18 PM Reply #1034 »
timw,

I have referenced this little tool in these pages before.  It is on historian Thom Blake's page.  He says -

This is simple program for calculating historical money rates for Australia. It is intended to be a basic approach to calculating the relative value of money in Australia from 1850 to the present. It is based on the Retail Price Index developed by the Australian Bureau of Statistics.

Obviously using the Retail Price Index is but one means of calculating relative values. More detailed discussion is available at these sites Current value of money and Measuring worth. The latter was the inspiration for this calculator.

 


You simply enter the value and the year and whether it is pounds or dollars and enter the desired year and it calculates the equivalent value.

You can find it at :

http://www.thomblake.com.au/secondary/hisdata/query.php

I'd also suggest you explore the two sites he referenced above.  Very interesting...
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« 2016-Jan-18, 02:18 AM Reply #1035 »
He's a magnificent looking beast.   

Not Tontonan.  So You Think. 

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« 2016-Jan-18, 09:17 PM Reply #1036 »
tontonan

I am a Doubting Thomas when it comes to accepting calculators - for example those published by life and super fiends. 

 cheers

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HORLICKS (NZ) 1983                                       
Countries Raced: NZ, AUS, JAP                                       
40 starts, 18 wins (6 x Group 1), 9 seconds and 2 thirds.  Win % 45.0, Place % 72.5.                                        
Also posted by PoisonPen7 page 27 of this thread, indexed as '54'.                                       
I have reposted the racing record because of an error in the widely published race record (was promoted from second to winner in her third last race start meaning she had 18 wins not 17 ) and possible errors in earnings calculations in addition to exchange rate differences.                                       
At the end of each race start I have include the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) Daily Indicative Exchange rate for NZD to AUD followed by the NZD earnings and the AUD earnings except in the case of her Japan Cup first where I have also included her JPY earnings and the JPY to AUD eachange rate.                                        
Verification of the Japan Cup details or further information in relation to the 1990 Byerley Thoroughbred Stakes promotion / relegation would be appreciated.                                       
                                       
EARNINGS SUMMARY                                       
                                       
New Zealand only earnings in NZD            NZD 1,735,270                           
Japan only earnings in JPY from http://www.jbis.jp/horse            JPY 103,161,000                           
Australia only earnings in AUD            AUD 625,000                           
                                       
JAPAN only earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 977,829                           
JAPAN only earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 1,301,295.34                           
Australia only earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 826,651.20                           
New Zealand only earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 1,362,170                           
                                       
Worldwide earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 3,863,216.54                           
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 2,964,999.81                           
                                       
https://www.nzracing.co.nz/RaceInfoSearch.aspx?q=Horlicks&s=All&g=All&r=undefined&t=Name#horse            NZD 4,165,407.30                           
Difference in NZD            NZD 302,190.76                           
                                       
http://www.racingvictoria.net.au/Racing/horse.aspx?horse_code=218073            AUD 3,209,664.00                           
Difference in AUD            AUD 244,664.19                           
                                       
                                       
Japan Cup earnings differences                                       
                                       
Page 100 of the 1989-90 New Zealand Turf Register states 'First stake money' … 'in excess of $1.5 million in NZ in 1989 (133.9 million yen).'            JPY 133,900,000                           
Japan Bloodstock Information System at http://www.jbis.jp/horse/0000161742/record/            JPY 103,161,000                           
Result in Japanese at http://jra.jp/datafile/seiseki/g1/jc/index.html            JPY 103,000,000                           
                                       
                                       
 'racingvictoria.net.au' figure for Japan Cup first            AUD 1,253,961.00                           
Japan Cup earnings of JPY 103,161,000 in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 977,829.38                           
Difference in AUD            AUD 276,131.62                           
                                       
 'nzracing.co.nz' figure for Japan Cup first            NZD 1,692,262.00                           
Japan Cup earnings of JPY 103,161,000 in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 1,301,295.34                           
Difference in NZD            NZD 390,966.66                           
                                       
1990 Hawkes Bay JC (Hastings) Byerley Throughbred Stakes differences                                       
                                       
nzracingco.nz amount            NZD 8,000.00                           
Correct result per race no 294 (p189) of the 1990-91 New Zealand Turf Register - Flying Luskin relegated to second and Horlicks promoted to first            NZD 25,000.00                           
Understated prizemoney            NZD 17,000.00                           
                                       
racingvictorianet.au placing and prizemoney for Byerley Throughbred Stakes 'second'            AUD 6,064.00                           
Correct result per race no 294 (p189) of the 1990-91 New Zealand Turf Register - Flying Luskin relegated to second and Horlicks promoted to first converted using the RBA Daily Indicative exchange rate            AUD 18,966.69                           
Understated prizemoney            AUD 12,902.69                           
                                       
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horlicks_(horse)            NZD 4,165,407.00                           
Mark Taylor's 'Century of Champions':             NZ$3,411,682 (includes earnings in Japan), A$ 625,000.                           
                                       
26 November 1989 passed Strawberry Road's total of AUD 2,214,671.01 Australasian earnings (estimate) when she won the Japan Cup (G1) at Fuchu, Tokyo, Japan earning JPY 103,100,600 (NZD 1,301,295; AUD 977,829.38) taking her career earnings to AUD 2,272,354.91.                                       
                                       
                                       
TWO YEARS:  1985-1986  Starts 0: 0-0-0-0                                       
                                       
Did not race                                       
                                       
THREE YEARS:  1986-1987  Starts 8:  4-2-0-2                                       
                                       
2nd-14   30/12/1986.   2.75L x sht nk   Tauranga, NI, NZ     BayOfPlentyRC Hotpac Maiden   Abt. 1300m.   52kg   1.16.94.   Firm, 3rd Fav.    Tango Princess 55 Fav. 1st   Hot Century (AUS) 55 3rd   1.2688   NZD 800   AUD 630.52
                                       
1st-15   17/01/1987.   4.5L x 1L   Pukekohe, near Auckland, NI, NZ   CountiesRC S & J Air Conditioning Sprint   Abt. 1300m.   55kg   1.17.88.   Firm, Fav.   Bold Angel 55 2nd   Hot Century (AUS) 55 2nd Fav. 3rd   1.2270   NZD 2,925   AUD 2,383.86
2nd-14   31/01/1987.   Nk x 1.25L   Arawa Park, Rotorua, NI, NZ    RotoruaRC Ian Taylor Improvers    1400m.   55kg   1.24.10.   Firm, Fav.   Final Illusion 55 5th Fav. 1st   Furlong 55 4th Fav 3rd   1.2194   NZD 1,500   AUD 1,230.11
1st-14   20/03/1987.   Lng nk x 5L   Avondale, Auckland, NI, NZ   AvJC Kumeu Improvers   1200m.   53.75kg   1.11.94.   Firm, Fav.   Dandy Devil 55.5 2nd Fav. 2nd   Wal Vain 55 3rd Fav. 3rd   1.2376   NZD 4,070   AUD 3,288.62
5th-13   7/04/1987.   0.5L x 1.25L   Ellerslie (new), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC DB 1300   1300m.   55kg   1.16.58.   Easy, Fav.   Just Reward 54 5th Fav. 1st   Wolverton Street 54 2nd   1.2422   NZD 0   AUD 0.00
6th-18   20/04/1987.   Sht hd x 1L   Ellerslie (new), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Miles Duty Free Stores Hcp   1600m.   52kg   1.35.88.   Firm, 5th Fav.   Vizor 56 1st   Historian 55.5 3rd Fav. 2nd   1.2403   NZD 0   AUD 0.00
1st-16   12/05/1987.   1.75L x 1.25L   Matamata, NI, NZ   MataRC Blandford Lodge Hcp   Abt. 1600m.   54.5kg   1.35.69.   Firm, 3rd Fav.   Tommy Tudor 53.5 2nd Fav. 2nd   Just Sneeze 55 3rd   1.2421   NZD 7,800   AUD 6,279.69
1st-16   16/05/1987.   3L x ½ hd   Te Rapa, Hamilton, NI, NZ   WaikRC Davies Transport Plate   Abt. 1600m.   53.5kg   1.38.43.   Soft, 5th Fav.   Jimmy Te Cobal 54.5 3rd Fav. 2nd   Morsel 56 3rd   1.2363   NZD 9,750   AUD 7,886.44
                                       
                                       
FOUR YEARS:  1987-1988  Starts 10: 5-1-0-4                                       
                                       
4th-11   22/08/1987.   1.25L x Lg nk   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   Pakuranga Hunt Admiralty Hcp   1200m.   49kg   1.11.97.   Easy, 3rd Fav.   Matthew Ryan 48.5 1st   Bourbon Boy 57 Fav. 2nd   1.1793   NZD 625   AUD 529.98
9th-12   16/09/1987.   0.5L x 3L   Hastings, NI, NZ   HBJC Angus Inn Hcp   1400m.   55.5kg   1.21.06.   Firm, 2nd Fav.   Latitude 56 Fav. 1st   Coffee Pot 52 4th Fav. 2nd   1.1566   NZD 0   AUD 0.00
1st-9   10/11/1987.   2L x 1L   Paeroa, NI, NZ   PaerRC Daily Freightways Hcp   1400m.   50.5kg   1.24.00.   Easy, 4th Fav.   Vizor 50.75 5th Fav. 2nd   Matabele 52.75 Fav. 3rd   1.0934   NZD 7,800   AUD 7,133.71
1st-16   1/12/1987.   0.5L x hd   Te Rapa, Hamilton, NI, NZ   CambJC Lion Red Dulcie Stakes   Abt 1600m.   54.5kg   1.34.66.   Easy, 8th Fav.   Kosha 55.5 5th Fav. 2nd   Savana City (AUS) 49.25 3rd Fav. 3rd   1.0855   NZD 26,000   AUD 23,952.10
                                       
5th-18   2/01/1988.   1L x 0.5L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Flag Inns Trophy Race   1600m.   52.5kg   1.33.97.   Firm, 2nd Fav.   Tri Belle 53.75 Fav. 1st   Infinite Secret 53.25 2nd   1.0967   NZD 3,125   AUD 2,849.46
1st-14   13/02/1988.   0.5L x 2.5L   Te Rapa, Hamilton, NI, NZ   WaikRC White Horse Whisky "1600"   Abt. 1600m.   55.5kg   1.36.84.   Easy, Fav.   Misty Topaz 56 2nd   Margarella 55.5 4th Fav. 3rd   1.0793   NZD 13,000   AUD 12,044.84
2nd-13   27/02/1988.   Sht hd x sht hd   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Air New Zealand Stakes   2000m.   55.5kg    2.02.51.   Firm, 6th Fav.   Bonecrusher 58 Fav. 1st   Sounds Like Fun 55.5 3rd   1.0788   NZD 40,000   AUD 37,078.24
1st-12   19/03/1988.   3L x 0.5L   Awapuni, Palmerston North, NI, NZ   MwtuRC BBA & Partners Awapuni Gold Cup   2000m.   55.5kg   2.05.80.   Easy, Fav.   Steely Dan 57 2nd Fav. 2nd   Field Dancer 58 5th Fav. 3rd   1.0963   NZD 32,500   AUD 29,645.17
1st-12   9/04/1988.   0.75L x 0.75L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Television New Zealand Stakes (G1)   2000m.   56kg   2.03.72.   Firm, 2nd Fav.   Bonecrusher 58 Fav. 2nd   Sounds Like Fun 56 4th Fav. 3rd   1.1319   NZD 125,000   AUD 110,433.78
4th-15   23/04/1988.   Nse x hd   Tauranga, NI, NZ     BayOfPlentyRC Owens 17th Japan/NZ International   Abt. 1600m.   56kg   1.35.88.   Firm, Fav.   Field Dancer 55.5 1st   Melbeck 53 2nd   1.1256   NZD 3,500   AUD 3,109.45
                                       
                                       
FIVE YEARS:  1988-1989  Starts 9: 4-3-0-2                                       
                                       
1st-8   13/08/1988.   0.5L x 2L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Fay Richwhite 1200   1200m.   56.5kg   1.19.42.   Heavy, 2nd Fav.   Kairau Lad 54 Fav. 2nd   Pikeson 51.5 4th Fav. 3rd   1.1988   NZD 9,375   AUD 7,820.32
1st-12   3/09/1988.   ½ nk x 2.5L   Wanganui, NI, NZ   Wanganui JC 1988 Tim Rogers Stakes   Abt. 1600m.   56kg   1.44.90.   Heavy, Fav.   The Filbert 58.5 2nd   Bourbon Boy 58.5 2nd Fav. 3rd   1.3146   NZD 32,500   AUD 24,722.35
2nd-7   23/09/1988.   ½ hd x 1.5L   Avondale, Auckland, NI, NZ   AvJC Allegra Park Stakes   1400m.   56kg   1.28.73.   Easy, Fav   Serestrina 54.5 3rd Fav. 1st   Field Dancer 58.5 2nd Fav. 3rd   1.2767   NZD 6,000   AUD 4,699.62
1st-10   8/10/1988.   1.25L x 1.25L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Firth Warren Sandman Stakes   2000m.   56.5kg   2.15.71.   Heavy, Fav.   Na Botto 57 4th Fav. 2nd   Saci 59 2nd Fav. 3rd   1.2963   NZD 18,750   AUD 14,464.24
2nd-11   22/10/1988.   1.25L x nk   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   MVRC W. S. Cox Plate   2040m.   56.5kg   2.06.9.   Good, 8/1.   Our Poetic Prince 57 5/4F 1st   Bonecrusher 59 7/1 3rd   1.3172   NZD 395,160.00   AUD 300,000
5th-9   26/12/1988.   Sht nk x 1.25L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC King's Plate   1600m.   55.5kg   1.34.39.   Firm, Fav.   Infinite Secret 58 5th Fav. 1st   Royal Grit 58 2nd   1.3396   NZD 1,000   AUD 746.49
                                       
4th-12   28/01/1989.   1L x Lg nk   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Wrightson Bloodstock Plate   2100m.   57kg   2.10.19.   Firm, Fav.   Regal City 57 4th Fav. 1st   Sounds Like Fun 57 3rd Fav. 2nd   1.4327   NZD 4,000   AUD 2,791.93
2nd-15   14/02/1989.   Sht nk x 3L   Te Rapa, Hamilton, NI, NZ   WaikRC Cambridge Stud International Stakes    Abt. 2000m.   56.5kg   2.00.55.   Firm, 2nd Fav.   Regal City 57 7th Fav. 1st   Westminster 57 8th Fav. 3rd   1.4277   NZD 20,000   AUD 14,008.55
1st-11   4/03/1989.   0.5L x 0.5L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC DB Draught Classic (G1)   2100m.   56.5kg   2.07.09.   Firm, Fav.   Regal City 57 3rd Fav. 2nd   Westminster 57 8th Fav. 3rd   1.3125   NZD 612,000   AUD 466,285.71
                                       
                                       
SIX YEARS:  1989-1990  Starts 9: 4-2-1-2                                       
                                       
2nd-11   26/08/1989.   ½ hd x 0.5L   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   Pakuranga Hunt Jim Bean 1200   1200m.   58kg   1.15.76.   Heavy, 2nd Fav.   Rule Enough 50 Fav. 1st   Magic Man 52 3rd   1.2943   NZD 4,000   AUD 3,090.47
2nd-17   16/09/1989.   4L x 2L   Awapuni, Palmerston North, NI, NZ   Marton JC Honda Metric Mile   1600m.   56.5kg   1.38.21.   Easy, Fav.   Mickey's Town 52 4th Fav. 1st   Dogwood 50 3rd   1.3135   NZD 15,000   AUD 11,419.87
5th-13   3/10/1989.   3L x 0.5L   Matamata, NI, NZ   MataRC J Swap Contractors Matamata Cup    1600m.   56.5kg   1.41.15.   Soft, Fav.   Mickey's Town 53.5 2nd Fav. 1st   Royal Creation 51.5 4th Fav. 2nd   1.3251   NZD 0   AUD 0.00
1st-13   4/11/1989.   0.75L x 0.75L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   VRC Occidental LKS Mackinnon Stakes (G1)   2000m.   56kg   2.03.30.   Fast, 9/2.   King's High 57 9/1 2nd   Vo Rogue 58.5 13/2 3rd   1.3299   NZD 260,660.40   AUD 196,000
1st-15   26/11/1989.   Nk x 3L   Fuchu, Tokyo, Japan   Japan Cup (G1)   2400m.   55kg   2.22.20 (CR)   Fast   Oguri Cap (JPN) 57 2nd   Pay The Butler (USA) 57 3rd   JPY 103,161,000; JPY/AUD rate 105.5; NZD/AUD rate 1.3308   NZD 1,301,295   AUD 977,829.38
                                       
1st-11   3/03/1990.   1.5L x hd   Ellerslie (old), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC DB Draught Classic (G1)   2100m.   56.5kg   2.07.08.   Firm, Fav.   The Phantom 57 5th Fav. 2nd   Castletown 52 2nd Fav. 3rd   1.2977   NZD 600,000   AUD 462,356.48
5th-13   24/03/1990.   2L x 1L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC Segenhoe Stakes   2000m.   56.5kg   2.02.12.   Dead, 6/4F.   Better Loosen Up 57 11/2 1st   Sydeston 57 140/1 2nd   1.2932   NZD 11,638.80   AUD 9,000
3rd-11   7/04/1990.   2.25L x 1L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   STC The BMW International   2400m.    57.5kg    2.38.12.    Heavy, 15/8F.    Sydeston 57 6/1 1st   Lord Hybrow (NZ) 58.5 14/1 2nd   1.3266   NZD 159,192.00   AUD 120,000
1st-9   21/04/1990.   4L x hd   Ellerslie (new), Auckland, NI, NZ   AuRC Television New Zealand Stakes (G1)   2000m.    57kg    2.11.12.    Heavy, Fav.   Mickey's Town 58 2nd Fav. 2nd    Mr. Brooker 57 3rd   1.3253   NZD 93,750   AUD 70,738.70
                                       
HORLICKS (NZ) 1983                                       
SEVEN YEARS:  1990-1991  Starts 4: 1-1-1-1                                       
                                       
3rd-12   21/08/1990.   3.5L x 1.5L   Te Rapa, Hamilton, NI, NZ   WailRC Soveriegn Lodge Plate   Abt. 1400m.    56kg    1.30.98.    Heavy, 2nd Fav   Mickey's Town 58.5 Fav. 1st   Kairau Lad 58.5 4th Fav. 2nd   1.3110   NZD 3,500   AUD 2,669.72
1st-8*   8/09/1990.   0.75L x 0.5L   Hastings, NI, NZ   HBJC Byerley Thoroughbred Stakes   Abt. 1400m.    56kg    1.21.03.   Firm, Fav.   Flying Luskin (Aus) 58.5 5th Fav. 2nd   Catering King 58.5 4th Fav. 3rd   1.3181   NZD 25,000   AUD 18,966.69
2nd-9   29/09/1990.   Hd x 0.75L   New Plymouth, NI, NZ   TaraJC Mason Appliances Fisher & Paykel Stakes   Abt. 2000m.    56.5kg    2.10.69.   Soft, Fav.   Mickey's Town 59 2nd Fav. 1st    Rough Habit 57 3rd Fav. 3rd   1.3463   NZD 12,000   AUD 8,913.32
8th-11   27/10/1990.   0.5L x 0.5L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   W. S. Cox Plate   2040m.    56.5kg    2.01.50 (ECR)    Fast, 4/1.    Better Loosen Up 59 2/1F 1st   Sydeston 59 6/1 2nd   1.2683   NZD 0.00   AUD 0
* Flying Luskin relegated from 1st to 2nd                                       
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« 2016-Jan-27, 10:08 PM Reply #1038 »
I have updated the record of MCGINTY (NZ) 1979 (Mr McGinty in Australia) to include his Japan Cup earnings for fifth place and to calculate his worldwide earnings in both NZD and AUD.

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« 2016-Jan-28, 08:19 PM Reply #1039 »
Sad day with the most under rated galloped I have ever seen,  InterGaze passing away.
Amazed he hasn't featured on this thread

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« 2016-Jan-28, 09:22 PM Reply #1040 »
Has to be a champion.  Read the title of the thread. 

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« 2016-Jan-28, 11:49 PM Reply #1041 »
Actually Intergaze does 'qualify' in as much as he meets timw's criteria of 5 Group 1 wins or more. 


INTERGAZE  49 starts  12 wins 10 seconds 4 thirds  and $ 3,774,806 including 8 Group 1 wins -

1st of 8 RAND 20Apr96 1600m Good3 AJC CHAMPAGNE SKS Group 1 $302,160 ($206,160) Glen Boss 55.5kg Barrier 6 
2nd Anthems 55.5kg, 3rd My Duke (NZ) 55.5kg 1:36.55 (600m 34.80), 0.8L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, 15-1/16-1

1st of 14 RHIL 01Mar97 1800m Good3 STC CANTERBURY GUINEAS Group 1 $305,400 ($209,400) Mr Craig Carmody 55.5kg Barrier 4 
2nd Might And Power (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Great Command (NZ) 55.5kg 1:47.99R (600m 34.12), 1.3L, 5th@800m, 3rd@400m, 4-1/5-1/4-1

1st of 10 RAND 12Apr97 2000m Good3 AJC QUEEN ELIZABETH II SKS Group 1 $302,510 ($206,510) Mr Craig Carmody 53.5kg Barrier 5 
2nd Octagonal (NZ) 57kg, 3rd All Our Mob 58kg 2:01.22 (600m 36.59), 1.3L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, 4-1/7-2

1st of 14 RAND 10Apr99 1600m Soft5 AJC ALL AGED SKS Group 1 $302,520 ($206,520) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 3 
2nd Bonanova (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Adam 58kg 1:36.07 (600m 36.34), 0.4L, 6th@800m, 5th@400m, 9-2/6-1/7-2

1st of 6 RAND 17Apr99 2000m Soft5 AJC QUEEN ELIZABETH II SKS Group 1 $502,520 ($342,520) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 1 
2nd Istidaad (USA) 58kg, 3rd Sky Heights (NZ) 54.5kg 2:03.80 (600m 36.94), 0.8L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, 4-1/6-1

1st of 14 DOOM 29May99 2020m Soft5 BATC DOOMBEN CUP Group 1 $500,000 ($310,000) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 13 
2nd Lahar 55.5kg, 3rd Joss Sticks 58kg 2:03.73 (600m 37.33), 1.3L, 8th@800m, 3rd@400m, 9-2/5-1/9-2

1st of 9 CAUL 19Sep99 1800m Good3 VATC UNDERWOOD STAKES  Group 1 $251,000 ($163,500) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 1 
2nd Sky Heights (NZ) 57kg, 3rd Inaflury (NZ) 54.5kg 1:48.51 (600m 34.66), 2L, 4th@800m, 3rd@400m, 3-1/9-4/5-2

1st of 14  FLEM 13Mar00 2000m Firm2 VRC AUSTRALIAN  CUP Group 1 $1,255,000 ($817,500) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 13 
2nd Arena 58kg, 3rd Streak 58kg 2:00.98 (600m 36.20), 1.3L, 1st@800m, 1st@400m, 9-2/5-1/9-2


His full record is at -
http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseWinsPlacing.aspx?HorseCode=Mjg0ODMxMTIw&src=horsesearch


This thread has generally focused on 'historical' horses because (a) it has generally progressed chronologically and (b) historical records are harder to find.  Race records  like Intergaze are easily found and accessible. 



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« 2016-Jan-28, 11:55 PM Reply #1042 »
Doesn't meet my requirement of a "champion."  Good horse.  No more. 

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« 2016-Jan-29, 07:03 AM Reply #1043 »
Actually Intergaze does 'qualify' in as much as he meets timw's criteria of 5 Group 1 wins or more. 


INTERGAZE  49 starts  12 wins 10 seconds 4 thirds  and $ 3,774,806 including 8 Group 1 wins -

1st of 8 RAND 20Apr96 1600m Good3 AJC CHAMPAGNE SKS Group 1 $302,160 ($206,160) Glen Boss 55.5kg Barrier 6 
2nd Anthems 55.5kg, 3rd My Duke (NZ) 55.5kg 1:36.55 (600m 34.80), 0.8L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, 15-1/16-1

1st of 14 RHIL 01Mar97 1800m Good3 STC CANTERBURY GUINEAS Group 1 $305,400 ($209,400) Mr Craig Carmody 55.5kg Barrier 4 
2nd Might And Power (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Great Command (NZ) 55.5kg 1:47.99R (600m 34.12), 1.3L, 5th@800m, 3rd@400m, 4-1/5-1/4-1

1st of 10 RAND 12Apr97 2000m Good3 AJC QUEEN ELIZABETH II SKS Group 1 $302,510 ($206,510) Mr Craig Carmody 53.5kg Barrier 5 
2nd Octagonal (NZ) 57kg, 3rd All Our Mob 58kg 2:01.22 (600m 36.59), 1.3L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, 4-1/7-2

1st of 14 RAND 10Apr99 1600m Soft5 AJC ALL AGED SKS Group 1 $302,520 ($206,520) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 3 
2nd Bonanova (NZ) 55.5kg, 3rd Adam 58kg 1:36.07 (600m 36.34), 0.4L, 6th@800m, 5th@400m, 9-2/6-1/7-2

1st of 6 RAND 17Apr99 2000m Soft5 AJC QUEEN ELIZABETH II SKS Group 1 $502,520 ($342,520) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 1 
2nd Istidaad (USA) 58kg, 3rd Sky Heights (NZ) 54.5kg 2:03.80 (600m 36.94), 0.8L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, 4-1/6-1

1st of 14 DOOM 29May99 2020m Soft5 BATC DOOMBEN CUP Group 1 $500,000 ($310,000) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 13 
2nd Lahar 55.5kg, 3rd Joss Sticks 58kg 2:03.73 (600m 37.33), 1.3L, 8th@800m, 3rd@400m, 9-2/5-1/9-2

1st of 9 CAUL 19Sep99 1800m Good3 VATC UNDERWOOD STAKES  Group 1 $251,000 ($163,500) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 1 
2nd Sky Heights (NZ) 57kg, 3rd Inaflury (NZ) 54.5kg 1:48.51 (600m 34.66), 2L, 4th@800m, 3rd@400m, 3-1/9-4/5-2

1st of 14  FLEM 13Mar00 2000m Firm2 VRC AUSTRALIAN  CUP Group 1 $1,255,000 ($817,500) Mr Craig Carmody 58kg Barrier 13 
2nd Arena 58kg, 3rd Streak 58kg 2:00.98 (600m 36.20), 1.3L, 1st@800m, 1st@400m, 9-2/5-1/9-2


His full record is at -
http://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/HorseWinsPlacing.aspx?HorseCode=Mjg0ODMxMTIw&src=horsesearch


This thread has generally focused on 'historical' horses because (a) it has generally progressed chronologically and (b) historical records are harder to find.  Race records  like Intergaze are easily found and accessible. 





Thanks tonto,

 8 x  G1's beating great horses like Occy (thank god), Might & Power.

He started as a 2yo and won the G1 Champagne a race for the best of his generation
Resumed as a 3 yo with the Vic Derby in mind but still out sprinted the likes of Armidale & Sovereign State then a string of 2nds in the Stan Fox, Guineas & the Vase
Resumed in the Autumn of his 3yo year to destroy Might & Power @ Rosehill before being tragically beaten in the Derby. One of the best things beaten that you will ever see.
Of course he came out and spanked Occy after that unlucky run

At 4 he was a bit flat but still managed to run 4th in the chipping Norton, beaten less than a length before another string of placings in Group races that culminated in a win in the G2 O'Shea stakes

He then had close to a year off before running 2nds in the St George, Aust Cup & BMW to the great Tie the Knot. Clearly another win was beckoning and he smashed another top class field in the Gi All Aged  before winning the QE, again. A quick freshen then won the G1 Doomben Cup

Still without much of a rest he leaped into the spring winning the Chelmsford & the Underwood before the campaign took it's toll.
He was then given a nice well deserved rest before returning for his last prep where he won the G1 Aust Cup

A stellar career in a golden age :clap2:

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HAPPYANUNOIT (NZ) 1995                                                   
                                                   
21 starts, 9 wins (4 x Group 1), 6 seconds and 2 thirds.  Win % 42.9, Place % 81.0.                                                    
Raced in New Zealand (3 starts), Australia (1 starts) and USA (17 starts)                                                   
Her Group 1 / Grade 1 record is: New Zealand - one start, one win; Australia - one start, one second; USA - 10 starts for three wins, four seconds and one third.                                                   
Her Keeneland win had black type status at the time and that race was later upgraded to Grade 1 status - in winning she set a course record.                                                   
                                                   
After each race start I have included the Reserve Bank of Australia (RBA) Daily Indicative Rates (NZD to AUD first, USD to AUD, second) used to convert her race by race earnings to United States dollars (USD), New Zealand dollars (NZD) and Australian dollars (AUD) in that order.                                                     
The RBA exchange rate used for each race is the rate for the date of the race or the immediately preceeding trading day if the raceday falls on a weekend or non-trading day in Australia.                                                   
I could not locate a complete 'official' career record among the usual New Zealand or Australian public sources of information.  Complete career records are available from 'equibase.com' and Daily Racing Form (DRF) (both USA).                                                    
As a general observation the Americans seem to do a far better job of tracking exchange rate movements than those kept by the Australians or the New Zealanders.                                                     
                                                   
                                                   
SUMMARY OF WORLDWIDE EARNINGS                                                   
                                                   
New Zealand earnings in NZD            NZD 114,625                                       
Australian earnings in AUD            AUD 54,000                                       
United States earnings in USD            USD 1,481,892                                       
                                                   
New Zealand earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 97,139.48                                       
New Zealand earnings in USD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            USD 65,139.38                                       
USA earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 2,442,044.28                                       
USA earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 3,078,217.23                                       
Australian earnings in USD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            USD 35,208.00                                       
Australian earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 62,812.80                                       
                                                   
Worldwide earnings in USD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            USD 1,582,239.38                                       
Worldwide earnings in NZD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            NZD 3,255,655.03                                       
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 2,593,183.76                                       
                                                   
DRF / equibase.com worldwide earnings in USD            USD 1,582,118.00                                       
Difference in exchange rates (applies to Australian and New Zealand earnings)            USD 121.38                                       
                                                   
RACING RECORD                                                   
                                                   
I have aligned the USA race starts with the Australian and New Zealand racing year.                                                   
                                                   
TWO YEARS: 1997-1998  Starts 4: 3-1-0-0                                                   
                                                   
1st-11   20/12/1997.    4.5L x 2.5L   Awapuni, Palmerston North, NI, NZ   Fairdale Stud Futurity       1100m.       53kg   1.05.95.   Dead,    So Casual (NZ) 55.5 2nd     Danske (NZ) 53 3rd   1.1279   0.6506   USD 9,012.88   NZD 15,625   AUD 13,853.18
                                                   
1st-11   28/02/1998.    1.25L x sht hd   Trentham, Wellington, NI, NZ   Ford NZ Wakefield Stakes      1200m.       54kg cd 54.3kg   1.08.99.   Good,     Fifty Fifty (NZ) 54 2nd    Amnesia (NZ) 54 3rd    1.1619   0.6745   USD 13,932.35   NZD 24,000   AUD 20,655.82
1st-16   28/03/1998.     2.25L x 0.75L   Awapuni, Palmerston North, NI, NZ    Ford Dealer Team Manawatu Sires Produce Stakes (90th) (G1)      1400m.       53.5kg   1.23.54.   Good,     So Casual (NZ) 55 2nd   Seasquill (AUS) 55 3rd   1.1975   0.6737   USD 42,194.15   NZD 75,000   AUD 62,630.48
2nd-7   25/04/1998.    Sht hd x 1.25L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Champagne Stakes       1600m.       54kg   1.39.67.   Heavy, 11/4.   Dracula (AUS) 55.5 7/4F 1st    Mossman (AUS) 55.5 11/2 3rd    1.1632   0.6520   USD 35,208.00   NZD 62,812.80   AUD 54,000
                                                   
Happyanunoit (NZ) 1995                                                   
THREE YEARS: 1998-1999  Starts 4: 1-0-0-3                                                   
                                                   
4th-7   18/04/1999.   Hd x 2L   Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA   Las Cienegas Hcp   6.25f. (turf)   1257m.   117lbs   53kg   1.13.55.   Firm, $3.40   Desert Lady 118 $2.10F  1st   Hula Queen 112 $14.40 2nd   1.1820   0.6423   USD 6,564.00   NZD 12,079.48   AUD 10,219.52
1st-6   12/05/1999.   0.5L x 2.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Allowance   8f. (turf)   1609m.   116lbs   52.5kg   1.34.13.   Firm, $2.10F.   Idealistic Cause (USA) 116 $8.80 2nd   Inchacooley (IRE) 118 $19.70 3rd   1.1917   0.6713   USD 39,000.00   NZD 69,233.28   AUD 58,096.23
5th-5   6/06/1999.   5.5L x 4.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Gamely Breeders' Cup Hcp   9f. (turf)   1810m.   116lbs   52.5kg   1.46.04.   Firm, $9.80.   Tranquility Lake (USA) 119 $1.70F 1st   Midnight Line (USA) 118 $10.90 2nd   1.2319   0.6503   USD 3,760.00   NZD 7,122.78   AUD 5,781.95
4th-8   24/07/1999.   Nse x 1.75L   Del Mar, near San Diego, CA, USA   Osunitas Hcp   8.5f. (turf)   1709m.   116lbs   52.5kg   1.41.67.   Firm, $18.60.   Que Belle (USA) 118 $5.10 1st   Bella Chiarra (USA) 116 $6.40 2nd   1.2218   0.6478   USD 6,678.00   NZD 12,595.22   AUD 10,308.74
                                                   
Happyanunoit (NZ) 1995                                                   
FOUR YEARS: 1999-2000  Starts 7: 4-3-0-0                                                   
                                                   
1st-6   11/08/1999.   1L x 0.5L   Del Mar, near San Diego, CA, USA   Palomar Hcp   8.5f. (turf)   1709m.   113lbs   51.5kg   1.41.28.   Firm, $14.40.   Tuzla (FR) 123 $1.60F 2nd   Isle de France (USA) 118 $3.50 3rd   1.2318   0.6504   USD 80,520.00   NZD 152,497.75   AUD 123,800.74
2nd-10   4/09/1999.   Hd x hd   Del Mar, near San Diego, CA, USA   Ramona Hcp   9f. (turf)   1810m.   115lbs   52kg   1.47.66.   Firm, $16.80.   Tuzla (FR) 121 $5.40 1st   Spanish Fern (USA) 115 $18.60 3rd   1.2466   0.6451   USD 80,000.00   NZD 154,593.09   AUD 124,011.78
1st-9   15/10/1999.   4L x nk   Keeneland, Lexington, Kentucky, USA   Vinery First Lady Stakes   9.5f. (turf)   1911m.   119lbs   54kg   1.53.91. (CR)   Firm, $3.70.   Pleasant Temper (USA) 119 $4.80 2nd   Fiji (GB) 117 $2.40F 3rd   1.2707   0.6507   USD 346,270.00   NZD 676,203.00   AUD 532,149.99
1st-9   28/11/1999.   Nk x 2.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Matriarch Stakes (G1)    9f. (turf)   1810m.   123lbs   56kg   1.46.30.   Firm, $3.10.   Tuzla (FR) 123 $3.00F 2nd   Spanish Fern (USA) 123 $6.40 3rd   1.2458   0.6382   USD 300,000.00   NZD 585,615.79   AUD 470,072.08
                                                   
2nd-6   23/04/2000.   0.75L x 4L   Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA   Santa Barbara Hcp   10f. (turf)   2011m.   121lbs   55kg   2.00.51.   Firm, $2.90F   Caffe Latte (IRE) 116 $3.20 1st   Country Garden (GB) 116 $10.70 3rd   1.1969   0.5964   USD 50,000.00   NZD 100,343.73   AUD 83,836.35
2nd-5   4/06/2000.   0.5L x 4L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Gamely Breeders' Cup Hcp   9f. (turf)   1810m.   121lbs   55kg   1.45.81.   Firm, $2.00F.   Astra (USA) 117 $4.80 1st   Tout Charmant (USA) 119 $2.60 3rd   1.2503   0.5715   USD 37,390.00   NZD 81,800.03   AUD 65,424.32
1st-5   2/07/2000.   3L x 1.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Beverly Hills Hcp (G1)    10f. (turf)   2011m.   121lbs   55kg   1.59.32.   Firm, $2.00F.   Sweet Life (USA) 115 $9.30 2nd   Polaire (IRE) 116 $8.90 3rd   1.2780   0.5986   USD 150,000.00   NZD 320,247.24   AUD 250,584.70
                                                   
Happyanunoit (NZ) 1995                                                   
FIVE YEARS: 2000-2001  Starts 6: 1-2-2-1                                                   
                                                   
2nd-10   19/08/2000.   1L x nse   Arlington Park, Chicago, Illinois, USA   Beverley D Stakes   9.5f. (turf)   1911m.   123lbs   56kg   1.55.87.   Yielding, $1.60F   Snow Polina (USA) 123 $5.50 1st     Country Garden (GB) 123 $44.60 3rd   1.3134   0.5933   USD 100,000.00   NZD 221,371.99   AUD 168,548.79
4th-5   7/10/2000.   Hd x 8.25L   Belmont Park, Long Island, New York, USA   Flower Bowl lnvitational Hcp   10f. (turf)   2011m.   121lbs   55kg   2.01.78.   Firm, $1.95F.   Colstar (USA) 116 $8.50 1st    Snow Polina (USA) 121 $2.55 2nd    1.3244   0.5315   USD 45,000.00   NZD 112,131.70   AUD 84,666.04
3rd-10   5/11/2000.   Hd x nk   Santa Anita Park, Arcadia, near LA, CA, USA   Las Palmas Hcp   9f. (turf)   1810m.   121lbs   55kg   1.46.99.   Firm, $2.20F.   Smooth Player (USA) 117 $6.00 1st   Beautiful Noise (USA) 115 $12.20 2nd   1.3084   0.5235   USD 21,000.00   NZD 52,485.96   AUD 40,114.61
3rd-9   26/11/2000.   Hd x 1.25L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Matriarch Stakes   9f. (turf)   1810m.   123lbs   56kg   1.46.06.   Firm, $4.30.   Tout Charmant (USA) 123 $3.70EF 1st   Tranquility Lake (USA) 123 $3.70EF 2nd   1.3030   0.5208   USD 60,000.00   NZD 150,115.21   AUD 115,207.37
                                                   
1st-7   26/05/2001.   Hd x 0.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA   Gamely Breeders' Cup Hcp (G1)   9f. (turf)   1810m.   121lbs   55kg   1.47.34.   Firm, $6.30.   Tranquility Lake (USA) 124 $2.00F 2nd   Beautiful Noise (USA) 116 $11.10 3rd   1.2302   0.5216   USD 115,710.00   NZD 272,903.45   AUD 221,836.66
2nd-5   24/06/2001.   4L x 3.5L   Hollywood Park, Inglewood, LA, CA, USA    Beverly Hills Hcp   10f. (turf)   2011m.   122lbs   55.5kg   1.59.61.   Firm, $2.40.   Astra (USA) 121 $1.90F 1st   Kalypso Katie (IRE) 116 $5.20 3rd   1.2519   0.5169   USD 40,000.00   NZD 96,877.54   AUD 77,384.41
                                                   
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« 2016-Feb-17, 02:34 AM Reply #1045 »
I have updated Strawberry Road's entry at page 34 of this thread to follow the layout I have used for foreign earnings in more recent postings.  I have recalculated his worldwide earnings using Reserve Bank of Australia's Daily Indicative Exchange rates the commenced to be published towards the end of 1983 rather than the Monthly Indicative Rates as this more accurately reflects the observed volatility of the exchange rate markets.  Previously I estimated his world wide earnings at AUD 2,214,671 using monthly indicative exchange rates.  Using daily indicative exchange rates results in a reduction to AUD 2,209,249.  I still don't have a final figure for his fifth placing in the 1984 'Arc' I have assumed it was nil.

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« 2016-Feb-29, 07:13 PM Reply #1046 »
TYPHOON TRACY (AUS) 2005                                    
                                    
20 starts, 11 wins (6 x Group 1), 3 seconds and 2 thirds.  Win % 55, Place % 80.                                     
Stakes AUD 2,438,600.  Race earnings for each start including the value of trophies are shown at the end of each race record.                                    
HONOURS:                                     
Simpsom Construction Typhoon Tracy Stakes (G3) 3YOF SW&P run at Moonee Valley, Melbourne, Australia late summer.                                    
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Typhoon_Tracy (the race record and prizemoney record is out of date)                                    
                                    
TWO YEARS:  2007-2008  Starts 0: 0-0-0-0                                    
                                    
Did not race                                    
                                    
THREE YEARS:  2008-2009  Starts 5: 5-0-0-0                                    
                                    
1st-11   26/09/2008.   5.5L x 0.75L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Kevin Sheedy Plate    1200m.   54.5kg   1.10.88.   Good3, $6.00   Pachanga (NZ) 54.5 $3.10F 2nd    Camilla Princess 54.5 $6.00 3rd    AUD 36,600   
                                    
1st-10   26/01/2009.   2.75L x 0.5L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Kevin Hayes Stakes    1200m.   54kg   1.09.48.   Good3,$2.50F   Bubble Below 54 $4.60 2nd    Boogaloo 54 $10 3rd    AUD 60,500   inc $500 trophy
1st-8   20/02/2009.   0.3L x 1.5L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Entire Shopfitting Plate    1200m.   55.5kg   1.11.57.   Good3, $1.50F   Cerberus Gal 54 $21 2nd    Kirvinsky (NZ) 54 $7.50 3rd    AUD 61,000   
1st-16   7/03/2009.   3.25L x 0.1L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Schweppervescence Trophy    1400m.   54.5kg   1.22.66.   Good3, $3.20F   Afterburn 54 $31 2nd    Delyara 53 $26 3rd    AUD 121,500   inc $1,500 trophy
1st-16   21/03/2009.   0.5L x 1.25L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Coolmore Classic (G1)   1500m.   51kg   1.29.98.   Dead5, $4.80F   Culminate (NZ) 56 $21 2nd   Gallant Tess 54 $6.00 3rd   AUD 396,100   inc $6,100 trophy
                                    
FOUR YEARS:  2009-2010  Starts 9: 5-1-1-2                                    
                                    
3rd-14   15/08/2009.   0.2L x 0.75L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   J J Liston Stakes    1400m.   56.5kg   1.23.44.   Dead4, $2.90F   Predatory Pricer 58.5  $9.50 1st    Whobegotyou 58.5 $5.00 2nd    AUD 18,000   
2nd-12   5/09/2009.   0.1L x 1.75L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Makybe Diva Stakes   1600m.    56.5kg    1.35.82.   Good3, $2.60F   Vigor (NZ) 59 $8.50 1st    Master O'Reilly (NZ) 59 $71 3rd    AUD 72,000   inc $5,000 trophy
8th-16   19/09/2009.   0.4L x 0.1L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Rokk Ebony Underwood Stakes    1800m.   56kg    1.49.54.   Dead4, $6.50   Heart Of Dreams 58 $10 1st     Whobegotyou  58 $2.40F 2nd    AUD 7,000   
1st-13   17/10/2009.   2.75L x 1L    Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Harrolds Stakes (Tristarc Stakes)    1400m.   57.5kg    1.22.89.   Dead4, $3.90.   Hot Danish 57.5 $3.30F 2nd    Glowlamp 53 $81 3rd    AUD 109,000   inc $1,000 trophy
1st-12   31/10/2009.    4.75L x 0.75L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Myer Classic (G1)   1600m.   56.5kg    1.35.33.   Good3, $2.20F   Lady Lynette 57 $10 2nd    Zarita (NZ) 57 $16 3rd    AUD 302,500   inc $2,500 trophy
                                    
1st-9   6/02/2010.   1.75L x 0.1L    Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Sportingbet Orr Stakes  (G1)   1400m.   57kg    1.24.04.   Good3, $1.40F   Heart Of Dreams 59 $6.50 2nd   Sirmione 59 $81 3rd   AUD 242,000   inc $2,000 trophy
1st-6   27/02/2010.   2.75L x 0.5L    Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Rokk Ebony Futurity Stakes (G1)   1600m.   57kg    1.34.43.   Good3, $1.60F   Dao Dao 59 $7.00 2nd    Sniper's Bullett 59 $6.50 3rd   AUD 304,000   inc $4,000 trophy
1st-11   3/04/2010.   2.25L x 0.5L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Inglis Queen Of The Turf Stakes (G1)   1500m.   57kg   1.29.95.   Soft7, $1.40F   Illuminates 57 $41 2nd    Montana Flyer 57 $31 3rd   AUD 264,900   inc $4,900 trophy
14th-20   17/04/2010.   0.2L x 1.5L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Emirates Doncaster Mile   1600m.   56.5kg   1.34.22.   Soft5, $3.30F   Rangirangdoo (NZ) 55.5 $6.00 1st    Road To Rock 55 $26 2nd   AUD 0   
                                    
FIVE YEARS:  2010-2011  Starts 6: 1-2-1-2                                    
                                    
4th-11   28/08/2010.   0.5L x 1L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   New Zealand Bloodstock Memsie Stakes    1400m.   57kg   1.26.68.   Slow7, $3.10.    So You Think (NZ) 58.5 $6.50 1st:    Whobegotyou 59 $11 2nd   AUD 9,000   
2nd-8   11/09/2010.   2L x 1L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Dato' Tan Chin Nam Stakes (Feehan Stakes)   1600m.   57kg   1.39.67.   Slow6, $4.00.    Whobegotyou 59 $3.10 1st    Shoot Out 58.5 $2.70F 3rd    AUD 72,000   
5th-16   3/10/2010.   0.2L x 0.1L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Turnbull Stakes   2000m.   57kg   2.03.23.   Dead4, $8.00.    Zipping 59 $17 1st    Shocking 59 $5.50 2nd   AUD 12,500   
2nd-9   30/10/2010.   4.5L x 5.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Myer Classic   1600m.   57kg   1.38.91.   Heavy8, $1.90F.    Sacred Choice 57 $21 1st    Hot Danish 57 $13 3rd     AUD 90,000   
                                    
3rd-9   28/01/2011.   0.1L x 0.75L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Essendon Mazda Australia Stakes    1200m.   56.5kg   1.09.66.   Good3, 1.60F.    Whitefriars 58.5 $6.50 1st    Undeniably 58.5 $9.00 2nd    AUD 18,000   
1st-16   12/02/2011.   0.1L x 1.5L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Sportingbet CF Orr Stakes  (G1)   1400m.   57kg   1.22.72.   Dead4, $2.00F   Heart Of Dreams 59 $13 2nd    Ortensia 57 $11 3rd    AUD 242,000   inc $2,000 trophy
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Offline ianb

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« 2016-Mar-02, 11:39 AM Reply #1047 »
Typhoon Tracy was indeed a very good mare and I would say that Moody learnt a lot from her.

I suspect without her being in the stable, there is no way Black Caviar would have been unbeaten.

Black Caviar was never raced beyond her distance range and Moody also learnt when the time was right to retire a champion mare.

 

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« 2016-Mar-06, 06:40 PM Reply #1048 »
Tragically Typhoon Tracy died minutes after foaling a colt to Street Cry to be called Last Typhoon.  He was her first and only foal.  He won at Donald on Friday, his second win from five starts having previously won a 2000m maiden at Bairnsdale in October .

Typhoon Tracy was also elected the Horse of the Year in 2011.

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« 2016-Mar-14, 04:54 AM Reply #1049 »



CENTURY

1969 brown colt
(Better Boy IRE - Royal Suite)
Owned by TR Trevaskis
Trained by JB Cummings


           Australian Timeform Rating : 129

  Sts Won 2nd 3rd $
Career 29 11 9 3 172,030


Australian Champion Sire 1978

Sire of Rubiton, Double Century, Centaurea, Century Miss, Stage Hit, Valley of Georgia, Centaine, Euclase etc.

 

At TWO YEARS

7thCheltenham PARC Noonamah Stud Hcp5f  8.4 State Piper    
WONMorphettv SAJC Kentucky Hcp5f A Trevena8.5 10/1DownTheCellar 8.5x 2lens 1.0.6Fast
WONM.Valley MVRC Niddrie Hcp5f R.Higgins8.11 4/7*Wandle 8.10x2¼ lens 1.0.5Good
WONM.Valley MVRC Matthew Finders Hcp 5fR.Higgins 8.131/2* Chipstead8.2 x 2lens1.0.2 Fast
WONCaulfield VATC Montrose Hcp6f R.Higgins9.3 2/7*Gamesness 7.8len 1.14.8Slow
2ndCaulfield VATC Blue Diamond Stakes6f R.Higgins8.7 2/1John's Hope 8.7x s½hd 1.10.7Fast
WONFlemington VRC Sires Produce Stakes 7fR.Higgins 8.108/11* El D'Amour8.10 x ¾len1.23.7 Fast
5th Randwick AJC Sires Produce Stakes7f  8.10 SovereignSlipper 8.10 1.23.0 
4thRandwick AJC Champagne Stakes8f  8.10 Anjudy 8.3 1.38.3 
            
At THREE YEARS
WONM.Valley MVRC Freeway Stakes 1200m G.Pretty51 6/1Acidity 50½x len 1.14.0Good
WONFlemington VRC Ascot Vale Stakes1200m R.Higgins57½ 8/11*Cardinal 53x1¾ len 1.11.4Good
WONM.Valley MVRC Moonee Valley Sks1600m R.Higgins55 1/1*CarnationForMe 55x 5lens 1.37.2Good
2ndCaulfield VATC Caulfield Guineas1600m R.Higgins55½ 4/5*Sobar 55½x 3½lens 1.36.2Good
3rdFlemington VRC Craven A Stakes1200m H.White50½ 4/1Beaches 54hd x ½L 1.10.1Good
3rdFlemington VRC Linlithgow Stakes1400m H.White51 3/1All Shot 57x 1¼lens 1.23.1Good
            
2ndCaulfield VATC Oakleigh Plate1100m R.Higgins54.5 9/2Zambari 57x len 1.03.7Fast
WONFlemington VRC Newmarket Hcp1200m R.Higgins55 5/1Beau Rouge 51x1½len 1.09.0*Fast
2ndRosehill STC George Ryder Sks1400m R.Higgins54½ 7/4*All Shot 55.5x ¾len 1.22.4Good
2ndRandwick AJC Doncaster Hcp1600m R.Higgins57 7/2*Analie 49xs½hd 1.34.7Good
2ndRandwick AJC All Aged Stakes1600m R.Higgins54.5 2/1*All Shot 57x 2lens 1.34.7Good
            
At FOUR YEARS
2ndM.Valley MVRC Freeway Stakes1200m R.Higgins57 2/1*Tauto 58x ¾len 1.18.7Heavy
2ndCaulfield VATC Memsie Stakes1600m R.Higgins57 4/6*Zambari 58.5x 3lens 1.43.9Heavy
6thRosehill STC Theo Marks Quality1400m  58.5 I'm Scarlet 52 1.23.9 
10thRandwick AJC Epsom Handicap1600m  58.5 Lord Nelson 56.5 1.35.1 
2ndCaulfield VATC Toorak Handicap1600m R.Higgins57.5 8/1Princess Eulogy 52x len 1.35.7Good
WONFlemington VRC Craven A Stakes1200m R.Higgins59 4/1I'm Scarlet 55x 1½len 1.10.5Good
3rdFlemington VRC Linlithgow Stakes1400m R.Higgins57 11/8*Tauto 58len x hd 1.22.6Fast
            
WONFlemington VRC Lightning Stakes1000m R.Higgins57 9/4*John's Hope 57x 1¼len 0.57.2Good
14thFlemington VRC Newmarket Hcp1200m R.Higgins61 4/1*Coolalinga 50.5 1.10.2

 




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