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Offline Bubbasmith

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« 2016-Apr-13, 05:10 PM Reply #1100 »
I would have thought the worst gamblers in the racing industry are the purchasers of horses at the yearling sales .
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« 2016-Apr-13, 05:32 PM Reply #1101 »
Why?

Many syndicate them at at nice profit.

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« 2016-Apr-13, 07:26 PM Reply #1102 »
I should have posted the ultimate owners.

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« 2016-Apr-13, 07:32 PM Reply #1103 »
Yep.  Remember to type slowly.

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« 2016-Apr-13, 08:27 PM Reply #1104 »
I would have thought the worst gamblers in the racing industry are the purchasers of horses at the yearling sales .

I'd think that there would be number who would be regarded as astute when their purchases prove a success.


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« 2016-Apr-13, 10:04 PM Reply #1105 »
Mathematically the amount of annual prize money offered to racehorse owners does not meet the total cost of purchasing, training etc the number of horses sold at auction each year. The few that prove their purchases are astute is far exceeded by those who purchases are duds. The chances of winning a race are not flash, as Tontonan has illustrated, it could be upto 450/1 to get a Group one winner.
Their maybe some astute buyers at auctions, however even the astutest have bought plenty of duds, as evidenced by the racing records of some high priced yearlings purchased over the years by high profile buyers. You may argue some yearlings go on to to be sires and recoup their costs many times over, however that cost is ultimately passed onto the purchasers of the future progeny of those stallions.
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« 2016-Apr-13, 10:09 PM Reply #1106 »
i thought your math was better than that bubba

i think tonto forgot multi group winners in the equation

and the fact that one owner will never get a group winner

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« 2016-Apr-13, 10:24 PM Reply #1107 »
Nothing wrong with my maths, total annual  prize money ( Group One, Two, Stakes, Welters, Class races, Maidens, whatever ) does not equal all owners' outgoings ( capital costs plus yearly outlays ). Horse ownership is not a Zero sum game, it is a losing game.

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« 2016-Apr-13, 11:37 PM Reply #1108 »
Rats,

You are quite right but don't take those numbers too seriously.  Originally they belonged to a post I made to another forum in 2004 and were expressed as

"There are 600 racehorses for every Group 1 race in Australia." 


The post was all about following the foal crops through subsequent seasons taking note of how many survived the first 12 months, how many made it to the track, how many won a race, a city race, more than one race, a stakes race and a Group 1 race.

It was pretty scary.  It suggested that only about half the foal crop actually make it to the racetrack, only three in ten that make it to the track will win a race and only one of those three will win another race.  One third of all registered racehorses earn no prizemoney at all in the course of a season, and (in 2004) 78% of all starters earned less than $10,000 in the course of a season.   



The point was to illustrate that the odds were stacked against the breeder even more than they were against the racehorse owner, and that even getting a slow horse to the racetrack was something of a triumph against the odds when around half never make to the track at all.

The random chance of breeding a good horse is very long, but many believe it can be shortened by one factor or another or a combination of factors.  One such factor is the racetrack performances of the broodmare. 

Using a collection of records of champion mares I have at my fingertips I noted that better than 50% of them went on to produce stakes winners - but they had any number of other progeny that were not stakes winners as well.   

I haven't done the math but if you summed their total progeny the percentage of the progeny of champion mares that were stakes winners would be something less  like 5% or less but still that would be a significantly better proportion than the summed progeny of  mares that were not racetrack champions that proved to be stakeswinners.

A well performed racing mare improves your chances of getting a stakes winner but even so the chances of getting a stakeswinner are very long.

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« 2016-Apr-23, 10:04 PM Reply #1109 »
AURARIA

1892 brown filly
Trenton NZ - Aura (2g)
Bred by WR Wilson,
St.Albans Stud,Geelong, Vic.
Trained by JH Hill
Owned by D.James
Blue, canary sleeves, red cap

24 starts :  10 wins (includes 2 dead heats) 3 seconds 1 third

Win : 41.6%  Place : 58.3%  Range : 4f to 16f   Ave Win : 9.3f
Principal Wins : 7   Pr.wins/sts : 29.2%
1894-95 at TWO years
11-Aug 2nd 18 Adelaide RC Fulham Park Plate 3f 8 -- Alveary 8 00:44.7 Good
18-Aug 4th 15 Adelaide RC Dequettevile Stakes 4f 8.9 -- Thunderer 8.9 00:50.2 Good
3-Sep Unpl 14 Morphettville Morphetville Stakes 4f 8 -- Thunderer 8.5 00:49.5 Good
8-Sep 2nd 10 Morphettville Nursery Hcp 4f 7.8 -- Thunderer 9.3 00:59.5 Heavy
13-Oct WON 8 Tattersalls Juvenile Hcp 4f 8 -- Birksgate 8 00:59.0 Good
3-Nov 5th 14 Flemington Maribyrnong Plate 5f 8.5 -- Aribi 8.1 01:02.5 Good
6-Nov =WON 17 Flemington Nursery Hcp 5f 8.1 10/1 Maie = 1 7.8 01:05.0 Good
10-Nov WON 18 Flemington Flemington Sks 4f 9.3 10/1 Maie 8.1 00:59.2 Good
4-May 2nd 8 Morphettville SA Stakes 7f 8.8 -- Freda 8.8 01:32.4 Good
4-May WON 7 Morphettville Elder Stakes 9f 6.11 -- ThePossible 9 02:00.0 Good
11-May WON 5 Morphettville Fisher Stakes 10f 7.2 -- ThePossible 9.7 02:13.4 Good
25-May WON 4 Adelaide RC Parkside Stakes 9f 6.11 -- ThePossible 9 02:00.5 Good
                       
1895-96 at THREE years
5-Sep WON 4 Morphettville SAJC Derby 12f 8.5 -- Miraclum 8.1 02:43.5 Good
2-Nov 3rd 8 Flemington Victoria Derby 12f 8.5 4/1 Wallace 8.1 02:46.0 Good
5-Nov WON 36 Flemington Melbourne Cup 16f 7.4 100/3 Hova 8.1 03:29.0 Good
7-Nov WON 4 Flemington VRC Oaks 12f 8.1 2/5 f Georgie 8.1 02:46.2 Good
9-Nov =WON 4 Flemington CB Fisher Plate 16f 7.1 6/4 f Wallace = 1 7.6 03:37.0 Good
29-Feb 5th 6 Flemington Essendon Stakes 12f 7.12 5/1 Quiver 8.11 10:10.7 Good
5-Mar 4th 4 Flemington Champion Stakes 24f 7.9 9/1 Quiver = 1 8.11 05:23.2 Good
                Wallace = 1 7.12    
7-Mar 4th 4 Flemington Loch Plate 14f 8.4 12/1 Hova 9.8 03:07.7 Good
                       
1896-97 at FOUR years
1-May Unpl 7 Morphettville Elder Stakes 9f 8.12 -- Lieutenant 8.1 01:57.8 --
                       
1897-98 at FIVE years
30-Oct Unpl 12 Flemington Melbourne Stakes 10f 8.12 -- Battalion 8.13 02:09.7 --
4-Nov Unpl 11 Flemington Veteran Stakes 12f 9 10/1 Positano 8.1 02:36.0 --
6-Nov 4th 4 Flemington Fisher Plate 16f 9 20/1 Aurum 7.6 03:34.0 --

Auraria already had eight starts before end of November of her 2YO year and by the end of her juvenile season she was contesting and winning the best WFA races in Adelaide.  After winning the South Australian Derby on resuming she became the second filly after Briseis to win the Melbourne Cup carrying a stone more than Briseis and more weight than The Barb or Grand Flaneur had been required to carry.   Like Briseis she won the VRC Oaks later in the week and famously ran an epic dead heat with the Derby winner Wallace in the 2 mile CB Fisher Plate.  And like Briseis, after her massive Spring she subsequently lost her form and never won another race.  
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« 2016-Apr-26, 01:13 PM Reply #1110 »

BLUE LEGEND

1942 black horse
Waikare NZ - Dalarosa
Owned by Mrs H.Field
Trained by Bob Abbott (Randwick)
Jack Besanko (Mordialloc) Gordon Brown (Roseberry)

Nobody's idea of a champion but notable for winning three big Randwick miles, something only Chatham had done before him.

 

AT TWO YEARS :    04911    5 starts 2 wins 0 seconds 0 thirds
 
  • 10 Mar 1945  18th of 23   Randwick AJC Service Handicap 6f 9yds 100/1 W.Howlett 7.7  Jamelie 7.7 1st 01:13.0
  • 5 May 1945  4th of 23 X 4L  Randwick AJC 2YO Novice 6f  50/1 L.Sawyer 8.7  Sajakeda 8.7 1st; Columnist 8.3 2nd; 1:14.0
  • 12 May 1945  9th of 19 x 6 lengths Canterbury STC Maiden 2YO Hcp (c&g) 6f  7/4*  A.Mulley 8.7; Deliverance 8.2 1st; 1.15
  • 16 June 1945  WON of 20  x 1 L Randwick AJC June Nursery Handicap 7f 17yds 12/1  E.Cracknell 7.5; Mt.Howitt 7.10 2nd; 1:32 very heavy
  • 23 June 1945 WON of 18  x 6L  Randwick AJC Second Nursery Hcp 1m 19 yds  6/1 T.Clarke 8.2; Deed 7.13, 2nd;  1.46 very heavy

AT THREE YEARS :   44004-41163   10 starts 2 wins 0 seconds 1 third
  • 25 Aug 1945  4th of  6   x 4 L Randwick AJC Hobartville Stakes 7f 26yds   A Mulley 8.10;  Magnificent 8.10 1st; 1.27
  • 29 Sept 1945  4th of 13 Randwick AJC Derby  12f   Sinclair 8.10;  Magnificent 8,10, 1st; 2.36
  • 20 Oct 1945   11th of 27  Caulfield VATC Caulfield Cup 12f   100/1  Percival  7.3; St Fairy 9.0  1st; 2.29
  • 3 Nov 1945  11th of 15 Flemington  VRC Victoria Derby 12f 50/1 F.deValle 8.10; Magnificent 8.10 1st; 2:33.0
  • 11 Nov 1945 4th of 10 Flemington VRC Batman Stakes  10f  5/2 W.Cook 8.7  Four Freedoms 8.12 1st;  2:05
  • 23 Mar 1946  4th of 14  x 1 L  Canterbury STC Flying Handicap 7f 14/1  E.Doon 7.7; Silver Link 8.7 1st; 1:29
  • 6 Apr 1946 WON of 17 x 4 lens Rosehill STC 3YO Handicap 7f  3/1  A.Mulley 8.9  Titanic 8.2  2nd; 1:25.0
  • 20 Apr 1946 WON of 21  x 3 lens Randwick AJC Doncaster Handicap 8f  8/1  J.Duncan 7.5; Abbeville 8.12, 2nd; Sajakeda 7.9 3rd;  1:40.0 heavy
  • 27 Apr 1946 6th of 13  x 5 lens Randwick AJC Final Handicap 10f 7/1 J.Duncan 8.13; Accession 8.13 1st; 2:06.0 soft
  • 4 May 1946 3rd of 10 x1 lens Randwick Tatt's City Tatt's Club Handicap 10f  5/1  J.Denham 8.6; Lady Marie 8.2 1st; 2:05.0 good
 
AT FOUR YEARS :   03158-706100  11 starts 2 wins 0 seconds 1 third
  • 31 Aug 1946  10th of 18 x 7 lens Randwick AJC Cambelltown Hcp 6f 19yds 20/1 G.Moore  8.11;  Shannon 9.11 1st; 1:11 good
  • 14 Sept 1946 3rd of 20  x 2 lens Randwick Tatt's Tramway Handicap 7f  12/1  E.Fordyce 8.7;  Puffman 8.7, 1st; Abbeville, 9.1 2nd; 1:25.0 good
  • 5 Oct 1946  WON of 15  x hd xhd; Randwick AJC Epsom Handicap 8f 10/1 E.Fordyce 8.9 ; Shannon 9.9 2nd; Young Veilmond 8.0 3rd; 1.36 good
  • 2 Nov 1946 5th of 21  Flemington VRC Cantala Stakes 8f 7/1 E Fordyce 9.2 ; St Fairy 9.8  1st; 1.37
  • 5 Nov 1946  8th of 18 Flemington VRC Yan Yean Stakes 8f  8/1  E Fordyce 9.6; Immediate 8.12 1st; 1:38.0
  • 7 Mar 1947 7th of 11 Randwick AJC Denham Court Handicap 7f 24y  20/1  D.Munro 9.2;  Earl Pentheus 7.9  1st; 1.24
  • 22 Mar 1947 10th of 14 Rosehill STC Railway Quality Hcp 7f  10/1 D.Munro 9.2; Tamaroa 8.6 2nd; 1:24.0
  • 29 Mar 1947 6th of 16  Randwick AJC Liverpool Handicap 7f  10/1  A Mulley 9.0; Native Son, 8.10, 1st
  • 5 Apr 1947 WON of 24 x long hd  Randwick AJC Doncaster Handicap 8f  9/1 H.Badger 8.11; Crusader 7.9 2nd; Wellington 8.6 3rd; 1.41 Heavy
  • 3 May 1947 Last of 7 x 12 lens  Eagle Farm, QTC PJ O'Shea Stakes 10f  A.Mulley 9.0; Russia 9.1 1st; 2:05.0
  • 10 May 1947 Unpl of 16   Eagle Farm QTC Moreton Handicap 10f  20/1  Felt Force 1st; 2:02.0 (CRT)

AT FIVE YEARS : 7050548-08082319   15 starts 1 wins 1 second 1 third
  • 30 Aug 1947 7th of 10  x 5 lens Randwick  AJC Warwick Stakes 7f 20y  50/1 E Fordyce 9.3; Victory Lad 9.3 1st; 1.25 good
  • 13 Sept 1947 13th of 16  Randwick Tatt's Tramway Handicap 7f  J.Thompson 25/1 Clipper 7.1, 1st; 1:25.0
  • 20 Sept 1947 5th of 11 x 3 lens  Rosehill Theo Marks Quality Hcp 7f  6/1 E.Fordyce 9.0; Murray Stream 8.2 1st; 1.24 good
  • 4 Oct 1947 14th of 21 Randwick AJC Epsom Handicap 8f  16/1  A.Ward 9.2; Titanic 7.5 1st;  1:37
  • 8 Oct 1947 5th of 13 x 2 lens  Randwick AJC Suburban Handicap 8f  12/1 E Fordyce 9.5; Silent 8.1 2nd; 1.35
  • 8 Nov 1947 4th of 7  Rosehill STC November Handicap 10f  6/1 E Fordyce 9.5; Silent 8.12 1st; 2:05.0 good
  • 15 Nov 1947  8th of 12 Randwick AJC Milperra Handicap 10f  5/1ef J.Eaves 8.12;  Cisco 6.9 1st; 2:04
  • 6 Mar 1948 13th of 18  Rosehill STC Flying Handicap 7f  33/1  W Briscoe 9.0; Murray Stream 8.5 1st; 1.25
  • 20 Mar 1948  8th of 21 Randwick AJC Liverpool Handicap 7f 50/1 E Fordyce 9.0; Murray Stream 9.0 1st; 1.24
  • 27 Mar 1948 14th of 18  Randwick AJC Doncaster Handicap 8f 16/1 E.Fordyce 9.0;  The Diver 7.12 1st; 1.38 holding
  • 3 Apr 1948  8th of 14 Randwick AJC Final Handicap 10f  14/1 E Fordyce 9.2;  Titanic 8.9 1st; 2.06.0 good
  • 10 Apr 1948  2nd of 16 x 3 lens Randwick Tatt's City Tatts Club Handicap 10f 26y  14/1 E.Fordyce 8.13; Lysander 7.5 1st; 2.05 good
  • 26 Apr 1948  3rd of 9  x 3 lens Randwick AJC A.I.F. Handicap abt 12f  11/2 E.Fordyce 8.11; Tilston 6.8 1st;  2.36 dead.
  • 8 May 1948  WON of 8  x head x head  Randwick AJC James Barnes Plate 10f 21yds  5/1  W.Fellows 9.0 ; Coalition 7.12 2nd; Frontal Attack 8.5 3rd; 2.07good
  • 17 July 1948 9th of 12  Canterbury Flying Handicap 7f 33/1 W.Fellows 9.0; Deep Sea 9.0 1st; 1.31 holding

At SIX YEARS : 53000-0905534310    15 starts 1 win 0 seconds 3 thirds
  • 28 Aug 1948 5th of 10  x 7 lens Randwick AJC Warwick Sks 7f 27y  33/1 W.Fellows 9.3; Septet 7.1 1st;  1.27.0 Good
  • 11 Sept 1948 3rd of 15  x 2 lens - Randwick AJC Spring Handicap 10f  12/1 W.Fellows 9.3;  Karachi 8.13 1st; 2:07.0 good
  • 2 Oct 1948  Last of 25  Randwick AJC Epsom Handicap 8f 25/1  D.Munro 8.12; De La Salle 7.13 1st; 1.36 good
  • 4 Oct 1948 16th of 19 Randwick AJC Metropolitan Handicap 13f  25/1 H.Badger 8.9; Buonarroti Boy7.10 1st; 2.46 holding
  • 16 Oct 1948 10th of 12 Randwick Tatt's City Gold Cup 12f  25/1  W.Fellows 8.13; Lysander 8.2 1st; 2.32
Transfered to Jack Besanko's stable at Mordialloc (Vic)
  • 12 Mar 1949 18th of 28 Flemington VRC Newmarket Hcp 6f 50/1 E Clarke 8.6; Reperio 8.11 1st; 1.13 dead
  • 2 Apr 1949 9th of 21  Caulfield VATC  South Yarra Handicap 6f  50/1  E Clarke 8.11; Henry the Fifth 7.4 1st; 1.12 fair
  • 16 Apr 1949 Last of 17 Flemington WRC Victoria Handicap 7f 50/1 E Clarke 8.7; Ungar 8.9 1st; 1.24
  • 7 May 1949 5th of 16 Caulfield VATC Tambo Welter 9f  7/1 F Dummett 8.9; Chievely 9.2 1st; 1.52 Heavy
  • 14 May 1949  5th of 16  Flemington VRC Koorlong Handicap 10f 9/2  J.Purtell 8.9; Chatspa 8.9 1st; 2.06.0
  • 11 June 1949 3rd of 17 Flemington VRC  Buckingham Highweight 8f 5/1ef  V Hartney 9.6; Derrymore 9.2 1st;  1.43.0 soft
  • 13 June 1949 4th of 15  Flemington VRC Cornwall Handicap 10f  V.Hartney 9.3; Royal Title 9.4 1st; 2.08.0 soft 
  • 18 June 1949 3rd of 11 x 1lens  Caulfield VATC Richmond Handicap 12f  13/2 T.Unkovich 8.4; Chatsol, 7.6, 1st; 2.33 holding
  • 9 July 1949 WON of 13 x len  Flemington VRC Winter Handicap 12f 3/1f T.Unkovich 8.6; Imperious 7.2 2nd; 2.34 holding
  • 23 July 1949  11th of 17  Caulfield VATC  Murrumbeena Hcp 12f  5/1ef T.Uncovich ; Stamen 8.4 1st; 

AT SEVEN YEARS ;  26089400 - 47909  13 starts 0 wins 1 second 0 thirds
  • 6 August 1949  2nd of 13 x 9 len - Caulfield VATC  Balaclava Hcp 12f 6/1 A.Breasley 8.11; Stamen 8.11 1st 2:32 good
  • 13 Aug 1949 6th of 8 Caulfield VATC   Malakoff Stakes 12f  2/1f  A .Breasley 8.13; Lucky Robin 8.9 1st; 2:30
  • 17 Sept 1949 Last of 8  Flemington VRC Craiglee Stakes 10f 100/1 E.Sellars 9.4; Comic Court 9.0 1st; 2.05
  • 29 Sept 1949 8th of  16  Caulfield VATC Metropolitan Handicap 12f  16/1 E.Sellars 8.5; Clement 8.10 1st; 2:28 good
  • 8 Oct 1949 9th of  13  Caulfield VATC Herbert Power Handicap 12f 50/1 E.Sellars 8.0; Clement 8.13 1st; 2:31 good
  • 15 oct 1949 4th of  22 x len - Caulfield VATC Caulfield Cup 12f 25/1 G.Bougoure 8.0; Lincoln 6.10 1st; St Razzle 8.10 2nd; Comic Court 9.1 3rd; 2.36 heavy 
  • 29 Oct 1949  13th of 15  Flemington VRC Hotham Handicap 13f 12/1 G.Bougoure 8.1; Foxzami 8.8 1st; 2.43 good
  • 1 Nov 1949  11th of 31   Flemington VRC Melbourne Cup 16f  80/1 S.Ralph 8.0; Foxzami 8.8 1st; 3.28 heavy
Transferred to Gordon Brown at Rosebery
  • 11 Mar 1950 4th of  8  x 11 lens Randwick AJC Denham Court Handicap 7f 24yds 7/1  A.Hazelton 8.6; Hesdin 7.13 1st; 1.31 heavy
  • 25 Mar 1950  7th of 20  Rosehill STC Railway Quality Handicap 7f 33/1 W.Briscoe 8.5; Buzmark 8.2 1st; 1.27 heavy
  • 1 Apr 1950 9th of 18 Randwick AJC Liverpool Hcp 7f 18y  W.Briscoe 8.2; Bungymun 7.1 1st; 1.30 heavy
  • 8 Apr 1950 13th of 23  Randwick AJC Doncaster Hcp 8f  Grey Boots 7.7 1st; 1.38 heavy
  • Unpl of  Randwick Tatts City Tatts Cup

One you don't hear a lot about,  probably because he only won 8 of his 69 starts and the only principal races he won were three big Randwick miles - 2 Doncasters and an Epsom.  He was also somewhat overshadowed because even though he won the Epsom all the limelight seemed to fall on the horse he beat : Shannon.  Shannon had been left at the start by up to 90 yards when the starter let them go with Shannon facing the wrong way and off the line.  Despite this Shannon ran Blue Legend to a head at the finish. 

Blue Legend was regarded as a superior mud runner and his two Doncasters were won on heavy tracks.

One thing I wasn't aware of before compiling his record is that his owner Mrs.H Field, sent the horse to Melbourne as a six year old to be trained by Jack Besanko at Mordialloc who tried to make a stayer of him.  We won a 12 furlong race at Flemington and ran a close fourth in the Caulfield Cup (beaten 3/4 length) before running 11th in the Melbourne Cup.  He was certainly bred to stay, being a member of the Evening Star/ Nightmare family.

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CHAUTAUQUA (AUS) 2010                                             
Grey-Bay Gelding                                             
Encosta De Lago (AUS) 1993 (Fairy King (USA) 1982) - Lovely Jubly (AUS) 1999 by Lion Hunter (AUS) 1992                                             
32 starts, 13 wins (6 x Group 1), 7 seconds and 4 thirds.  Win % 40.6, Place % 75.0 (as at 11 November 2017)                                             
                                             
Australian earnings in AUD            AUD 7,795,750                                 
Hong Kong earnings in HKD            HKD 5,700,000                                 
                                             
Hong Kong earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 959,903.00                                 
Worldwide earnings in AUD based on RBA Daily Indicative Rates            AUD 8,755,653.00                                 
                                             
AGE RECORD            SEASONS EARNINGS                                 
TWO YEARS:  2012-2013  Starts 0: 0-0-0-0            AUD 0                                 
THREE YEARS:  2013-2014  Starts 7: 2-3-0-2            AUD 173,500                                 
FOUR YEARS:  2014-2015  Starts 7: 4-2-1-0            AUD 2,219,750                                 
FIVE YEARS:  2015-2016  Starts 8: 6-1-1-0            AUD 4,077,403                                 
SIX YEARS:  2016-2017  Starts 6: 1-1-2-2            AUD 1,832,500   
SEVEN YEARS:  2017-2018  Starts 4: 0-0-0-4 as at 11 November 2017  AUD 452,500
                     
                                             
RACE RECORD                                             
Prizemoney and trophy details appear at the end of each race record                                             
                                             
TWO YEARS:  2012-2013  Starts 0: 0-0-0-0                                             
                                             
Did not race                                             
                                             
THREE YEARS:  2013-2014  Starts 7: 2-3-0-2                                             
                                             
2nd-13   20/10/2013.    0.1L x 5L   Seymour, VIC, AUS   Pet, Horse & Farm Maiden Plate   1200m.      56kg    1:09.15.    Good4,$2.80   Nautical 56.5 $2.10F 1st    Kelvy 58.5 $31 3rd   AUD 2,975         
2nd-9   6/11/2013.   0.75L x 2.25L   Kyneton, VIC, AUS   Hanging Rock Winery SV 3YO Maiden Plate   1200m.      58kg   1:12.13.   Good4, $1.20F.    By the Grace 58 $15 1st   3rd Bring Back 58 $31 3rd   AUD 3,400         
                                             
1st-5   13/03/2014.    4.5L x 5L   Geelong, VIC, AUS   NZ Bloodstock 3YO Maiden Plate   1130m.      58kg   1:06.12.   Good4, $1.24F.    Art Teen 58 $8.00 2nd   Satellite Miss 56 $51 3rd   AUD 10,500         
2nd-11   6/04/2014.   0.5L x 1.75L   Gosford, NSW, AUS   De Bortoli Wines Gosford Guineas   1200m.      56kg   1:13.31.   Heavy10, $3.50F.   In Cahoots 56 $26 1st   Dothraki 57 $10 3rd   AUD 50,000         
7th-11   19/04/2014.   0.2L x 2.5L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Arrowfield Royal Sovereign Stakes   1200m.      56.5kg   1:10.20.   Soft6, $5.50.   Sidestep 56.5 $4.60 1st   Bounding 54.5 $4.00F 2nd   AUD 5,000         
1st-14   3/05/2014.   1.5L x 1.25L    Hawkesbury, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Blacktown Workers Hawkesbury Guineas   1400m.      56kg   1:22.49.   Good4, $4.00F.   Katie's Cove 54 $6.50 2nd     Barbed 57 $11 3rd    AUD 91,750   inc $1,750 trophy      
5th-16   17/05/2014.   0.5L x 0.5L   Scone, NSW, AUS   Inglis 3YO Guineas   1400m.      56.5kg   1:22.87.   Good3, $2.50F.    Cosmic Endeavour 54.5 $3.60 1st   Liberty's Choice 56.5 $26 2nd   AUD 9,875         
                                             
FOUR YEARS:  2014-2015  Starts 7: 4-2-1-0                                             
                                             
1st-18   13/09/2014.   2.5L x sht hd,   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Bobbie Lewis Quality   1200m.      54kg   1:08.11.   Good3, $5.50F.   Temple of Boom 59.5 $10 2nd   In Cahoots 54 $21 3rd    AUD 91,500   inc $1,500 trophy      
1st-11   4/10/2014.   4L x 1.75L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Gilgai Stakes   1200m.      56.5kg   1:08.28.   Good3, $2.80F.   Bounding 54 $4.60 2nd     Final Crescendo 55 $81 3rd    AUD 121,500   inc $1,500 trophy      
2nd-13   8/11/2014.   0.2L,   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Darley Classic   1200m.      58.5kg   1:08.79.   Good3, $2.45.   Terravista 58.5 $10 1st     Lankan Rupee 58.5 $5.00 3rd    AUD 180,000   inc $2,500 trophy      
                                             
1st-10   14/02/2015.   Sht nk x 3.25L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Schweppes Rubiton Stakes   1100m.      57.5kg   1:02.39.   Good3, $1.85F.   Flamberge 57.5 $17 2nd    Atmospherical 55 $5.00 3rd    AUD 121,000   inc $1,000 trophy      
2nd-9   14/03/2015.   2.75L x 0.5L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Lexus Newmarket Hcp   1200m.      55.5kg   1:09.24.   Good3, $3.20.    Brazen Beau 52 $5.50 1st   Terravista 56.5 $5.50 3rd    AUD 180,000         
1st-10   6/04/2015.   Nse x 2L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Darley T J Smith Stakes (G1)    1200m.      58.5kg   1:11.04.   Soft7, $4.00.   Lord of the Sky 58.5 $21 2nd   Terravista 58.5 $2.60F 3rd   AUD 1,485,750   inc $85,750 trophy      
3rd-13   18/04/2015.   Hd x lg nk   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Schweppes All Aged Stakes   1400m.      59kg   1:24.60.   Soft6, $3.00F.   Dissident 59 $10 1st     Wandjina 56.5 $7.50 2nd    AUD 40,000         
                                             
FIVE YEARS:  2015-2016  Starts 8: 6-1-1-0                                             
                                             
1st-12   5/09/2015.   1.5L x 1.25L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Mitty's McEwen Stakes   1000m.      58.5kg   0:58.23.   Good4, $2.60.   Flamberge 58.5 $5.50 2nd    Furnaces 52 $5.50 3rd    AUD 121,000   inc $1,000 trophy      
1st-10   4/10/2015.   1L x nk   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Gilgai Stakes   1200m.      57kg   1:09.81.   Good3, $1.30F.     Delectation 57 $31 2nd   Knoydart 55.5 $19 3rd    AUD 122,000   inc $2,000 trophy      
1st-10   23/10/2015.   2L x nse   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   William Hill Manikato Stakes (G1)   1200m.      58.5kg    1:09.51.   Good4, $2.45F.    Srikandi 56.5 $9.00 2nd    Rebel Dane 58.5 $13 3rd    AUD 615,000   inc $15,000 trophy      
2nd-9   7/11/2015.   Sht hd x sht hd   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Darley Classic   1200m.      58.5kg   1.10.07.   Soft5, $1.90F.   Delectation 58.5 $14 1st   Terravista 58.5 $9.50 3rd   AUD 180,000         
                                             
1st-6   20/02/1916.   Nse x sht hd   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Black Caviar Lightning Stakes (G1)   1000m.      58.5kg   0.57.02.   Good3, $2.80F.   Terravista 58.5 $6.50 2nd   Japonisme 55.5 $7.00 3rd   AUD 452,500   inc $2,500 trophy      
3rd-9   12/03/2016.   Hd x 0.75L   Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Lexus Newmarket Hcp   1200m.      58kg   1.09.23.   Good4, $2.45F.   The Quarterback 52 $21 1st   Black Heart Bart 53.5 $16 2nd   AUD 112,500         
1st-15   2/04/2016.   1.25L x sht hd   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Darley T J Smith Stakes (G1)    1200m.      58.5kg   1.10.10.   Soft6, $3.60.   Fell Swoop 58.5 $15 2nd   English 54.5 $9.00 3rd   AUD 1,514,500   inc $114,500 trophy      
1st-14   1/05/2016.   Nk x 1L   Sha Tin, HONG KONG   The Chairman's Sprint Prize (G1)    1200m. (Turf)   126lbs   57kg   1.08.69.   Good, $2.80F.   Lucky Bubbles (AUS) 57 $4.30 2nd   Strathmore (AUS) 57 $99 3rd   HKD 5,700,000   5.9381   AUD 959,903   Value of gold plates and trophy not stated on racecard
                                             
SIX YEARS:  2016-2017  Starts 6: 1-1-2-2                                             
                                              
4th-9   30/09/2016.   1.25L x 0.1L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Charter Keck Cramer Moir Stakes   1000m.      58.5kg   0.58.74.   Good4, $1.95F.   Extreme Choice 52 $5.00 1st   Heatherley 56.5 $16 2nd   AUD 22,500         
7th-10   21/10/2016.   0.2L x 1L   Moonee Valley, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   William Hill Manikato Stakes   1200m.      58.5kg   1.10.99.   Soft5, $2.45F   Rebel Dane 58.5 $61 1st   Fell Swoop 58.5 $7.50 2nd   AUD 20,000         
                                             
3rd-7   11/02/2017.   1.25L x 0.75L   Caulfield, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Schweppes Rubiton Stakes   1100m.      59.5kg   1.02.57.   Good3, $2.70F.   Super Cash 54 $18 1st   I Am a Star (NZ) 53.5 $10 2nd   AUD 18,000         
2nd-8   4/03/2017.   0.1L x 3L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Canterbury BMW Stakes   1300m.      59kg   1.20.00.   Heavy10, $3.70F.   Le Romain 59 $4.60 1st   Hauraki 59 $12 3rd   AUD 95,000         
3rd-7   18/03/2017.   7.25L x 1.25L   Rosehill, Sydney, NSW, AUS   China Horse Club George Ryder Stakes   1500m.      59kg   1.34.87.   Heavy10, $9.00.   Winx 57 $1.26F 1st   Le Romain 59 $10 2nd   AUD 100,000         
1st-15   1/04/2017.   0.2L x 1.3L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Darley T J Smith Stakes (G1)    1200m.      58.5kg   1.12.44.   Heavy8, $5.50.   English 56.5 $12 2nd   Fell Swoop 58.5 $21 3rd   AUD 1,577,000   inc $114,500 trophy      

SEVEN YEARS:  2017-2018  Starts 4: 0-0-0-4 as at 11 November 2017

7th-9   16/09/2017.   1.3L x 0.2L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Bowermans Office Furniture Shorts    1100m.   58kg    1.01.83. (CR)   Good3, $5.50F. Redzel 58 $2.50F 1st Ball of Muscle 55 $10 2nd   Nieta 53 $21 3rd AUD 2,500.
6th-11   30/09/2017.   0.2L x 1L   Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   Santos Coffee Premiere Stakes 1200m.   58.5kg  1.08.20.  Good3, $2.80F. In Her Time 56.5 $4.80 1st English 56.5 $5.50 2nd Clearly Innocent 58.5 $8.50 3rd AUD 5,000.
4th-12   14/10/2017.   0.8L x 0.2L    Randwick, Sydney, NSW, AUS   The TAB Everest 1200m.   58.5kg  1:08.36. Good3, $6.00   Redzel 58.5 $8.50 1st Vega Magic 58.5 $4.80F 2nd Brave Smash (JPN) 58.5 $19  3rd AUD 400,000.
4th-13   11/11/2017.   0.75L x 0.75L    Flemington, Melbourne, VIC, AUS   Darley Classic   1200m.  58.5kg  1.08.74.   Good3, 4.80.   Redzel 58.5 $4.00F 1st  Terravista 58.5 $31 2nd   Impending 58.5 $9.50 3rd AUD 45,000.



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« 2016-May-16, 05:54 PM Reply #1112 »
Index restored and updated.
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« 2016-May-17, 10:35 AM Reply #1113 »
Hey Tonto, if you add a #msg_466656 (obviously need to change the msg id for each post msg_{post_id} which can be found by hovering over the modify button)  to the end of your links it will open the post beside the horse, pain to go through and add it to all your listings, but would help the navigation f you felt it worth the effort.

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« 2016-May-18, 04:50 PM Reply #1114 »
The index is now message specific.  Click on a horse and go directly to its race record .

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« 2016-May-18, 04:58 PM Reply #1115 »
The index is now message specific.  Click on a horse and go directly to its race record .

Well done.

Outstanding.

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« 2016-May-18, 05:28 PM Reply #1116 »
Good job Tonto   :noteworthy:

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« 2016-May-18, 06:32 PM Reply #1117 »
Really good work, mate.

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« 2016-May-18, 07:01 PM Reply #1118 »
I hope it makes the collection more accessible.  There are still plenty more to come.

I am thinking about changing the picture in the header to the Horse of the Week/Month/Whatever and linking to the record. 
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« 2016-May-19, 01:20 PM Reply #1119 »

LUSKIN STAR (1974)
chestnut colt
By Kaoru Star from Promising
Owned by Balcomb, Ninness and Barnett then Sweetenham Stud
Trained by Max Lees then Bart Cummings

Career :  17 starts :  13 wins  3 seconds 0 thirds   $280.900
 

1976/77 At TWO YEARS :  9 starts 8 wins 1 second 0 thirds

2Oct WON of 11x12L Randwick Breeders Plate 1000m 5/4 f JW 53ShufflingShamus 53 00:58.8 Good
23Oct WON of 10x 4L Rosehill Silver Slipper 900m 1/1 ef JW 53Biscapol 53 00:52.6 Slow
22Feb 2ND of 9xL Newcastle Northern Slipper 1200m 5/4 ef JW 56MistressAnne 52.5 01:13.3 Heavy
12Mar WON of 15x3L Rosehill Todman Slipper 1200m 4/5 f JW 55Mondiso 55 01:12.6 Good
26Mar WON of 6x 7L Rosehill Golden Slipper 1200m 11/4ef JW 54Lloyd Boy 54 01:10.0 Fast
9Apr WON of 7x 3L Randwick Sires' Produce 1400m 1/7 f JW 55.5 Bold Zest 55.5 01:21.5# Fast
16Apr WON of 8x 6L Randwick Champagne Sks 1600m 1/3 f JW 55.5 Marceau 55.5 01:36.4 Good
4Jun WON of 4x 3L EagleFarm Sires' Produce 1400m 1/8 f JW 55.5 PacificPrince 55.5 01:23.9 Good
13Jun WON of 9x 2L EagleFarm Malboro Stakes 1600m 1/4 f JW 58GipsyKingdom 48.5 01:34.3 Good

1977/78 At THREE YEARS : 8 starts 5 wins 2 seconds 0 thirds

3Sep 2ND of 9xsh Canterbury Canterbury Stks 1200m 2/5 f PC 50.5 RomanticDream 57 01:11.9 Slow
13Sep WON of 7x 2L Newcastle Cameron Hcp 1300m 4/7 f JL 52.5 RomanticDream 55.5 01:15.8 Good
8Oct WON of 11

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Caulfield CaulfieldGuineas 1600m 1/2 f RH 55.5 PrincessTalaria 53 01:37.8 Fast
22Oct 9th of 14-- M.Valley WS Cox Plate 2050m 7/4 f JL 48.5 FamilyOfMan 57 02:05.3 Good

Transferred from Max Lees to Bart Cummings stable

11Feb WON of 10x1L Randwick ExpresswaySks 1100m 1/3 f JD 53.5 AlwaysWelcome 57 01:04.0 Good
25Feb WON of 7xL Rosehill PharLapStakes 1500m 2/11f JD 54Khayyam 54 01:29.6 Fast
11Mar 2ND of 13

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Rosehill Tulloch Stakes 1850m 1/1 f JD 54Lefroy 54 01:52.0 Fast
27Mar WON of 9x3L Randwick The Galaxy 1100m 4/6 f JD 57Again 50.5 01:06.7 Slow

= race record time    # = course record time
Jockey Legend : JW = John Wade;  PC = Peter Cook; JL = John Letts; RH = Roy Higgins; JD = John Duggan

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« 2016-May-19, 05:34 PM Reply #1120 »
Max Less =  Max Lees  (first mention)

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« 2016-May-19, 10:32 PM Reply #1121 »
Thanks Brian.  Max Less is a bit of a contradiction in terms.

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« 2016-May-20, 08:26 AM Reply #1122 »
The horse was a champion:  a brief career but almost faultless. 

If one omits his two failures at distances past a mile and his narrow defeat  at his one start on a heavy track one is left with 13 wins and a half-head second out of 14 runs.

The colt was favourite or equal favourite in all of his races.

I find it hard to accept that Luskin Star's career was nigh on 40 years ago.  You young guys don't realise how fast time travels.

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PIERRO
2009 Bay colt
Lonhro - Miss Right Note (Ire)
Owned by Mr & Mrs GG Kolivos
Trained by Gai Waterhouse
 

14 starts : 11 wins 2 seconds 1 third  $4,536,650

At TWO YEARS : 6 starts 6 wins

T 2nd of 6

CANT 19Sep11 900m Good3 Barrier Trial-2CG-UNR $000 Nash Rawiller 0kg Barrier 5 1st Tatra 0kg, 3rd On Our Selection 0kg 0:56.37 (600m 36.14), 0.2L
WON of 11 Randwick 01Oct11 1000m Soft5 ATC BREEDERS PLATE Listed $100,000 ($60,000) Nash Rawiller 56kg Barrier 5  2nd Hidden Warrior 56kg, 3rd Rusambo 56kg 0:58.81 (600m 35.40), 0.2L, 5th@800m, 2nd@400m, $6.5/$9/$5

Spell 18 weeks

T 1st of 10

Rosehill 07Feb12 900m Soft7 Barrier Trial-2-C-OPN $000 Nash Rawiller 0kg Barrier 0 2nd Lightning Drew 0kg, 3rd Steel Academy 0kg 0:54.12, 0.8L
WON of 9 Rosehill 03Mar12 1100m Heavy9 SILVER SLIPPER Group 2 $201,700 ($121,700) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 5  2nd Hussousa 54.5kg, 3rd Kyria 54.5kg 1:06.80 (600m 36.82), 1L, 6th@800m, 6th@400m, $2.50/$4.60/$4.40
WON of 7 Rosehill 24Mar12 1200m Soft5 TODMAN SLIPPER TRIAL Group 2 $301,700 ($181,700) Nash Rawiller 55.5kg Barrier 3  2nd Epaulette 55.5kg, 3rd Shelford 55.5kg 1:12.14 (600m 35.70), 0.1L, 3rd@800m, 3rd@400m, $1.90/$2.10/$2.05
WON of 16 Rosehill 07Apr12 1200m Good3 GOLDEN SLIPPER STAKES Group 1 $3,532,750 ($2,032,750) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 1  2nd Snitzerland 54.5kg, 3rd Samaready 54.5kg 1:09.74 (600m 34.33), 0.4L, 6th@800m, 6th@400m, $5.50/$6.50/$6.50
WON of 7 Randwick 14Apr12 1400m Good3 ATC SIRES PRODUCE SKS Group 1 $505,000 ($305,000) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 2  2nd All Too Hard 56.5kg, 3rd Limes 56.5kg 1:21.47 (600m 35.32), 1.8L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, $2.60/$3.20/$3.20
WON of 9 Randwick 28Apr12 1600m Good3 CHAMPAGNE STAKES Group 1 $405,000 ($245,000) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 6 2nd Dear Demi 54.5kg, 3rd Tatra 56.5kg 1:35.03 (600m 35.75), 2.8L, 3rd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.28/$1.22/$1.22

Spell 18 weeks

At THREE YEARS : 8 starts 5 wins 2 seconds 1 third

WON of 6 Rosehill 01Sep12 1200m Good3 RUN TO THE ROSE Group 3 $125,800 ($75,800) Nash Rawiller 60kg Barrier 4 2nd Your Song 57kg, 3rd Epaulette 57.5kg 1:09.86 (600m 33.48), 1.3L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.60/$1.85/$1.55/$1.55
WON of 7 Moonee Valley 28Sep12 1600m Good4 BILL STUTT STAKES Group 2 $221,000 ($133,000) Nash Rawiller 57kg Barrier 3 Rtg 114 2nd Carringbush Jack 57kg, 3rd Jimando 57kg 1:36.31 (600m 35.86), 4.75L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.07/$1.06/$1.06
2nd of 8 Caulfield 13Oct12 1600m Good3 CAULFIELD GUINEAS Group 1 $1,008,000 ($180,000) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 7 Rtg 114 1st All Too Hard 56.5kg, 3rd Epaulette 56.5kg 1:36.05 (600m 36.55), 0.5L, 2nd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.20/$1.22
3rd of 14 Moonee Valley 27Oct12 2040m Good4 W.S. COX PLATE Group 1 $3,050,000 ($220,000) Corey Brown 49.5kg Barrier 7 Rtg 114 1st Ocean Park (NZ) 57.5kg, 2nd All Too Hard 49.5kg 2:04.14 (600m 36.86), 4.05L, 4th@800m, 5th@400m, $5/$5.50

Spell 14 weeks

T 1st of 9

Rosehill 05Feb13 1030m Soft7 Barrier Trial-3U-OPN $000 Mark Newnham 0kg Barrier 0 2nd King Cobia 0kg, 3rd Urquidez 0kg 1:03.20, 3L

T 2nd of 7

Warwick Farm 15Feb13 1200m Soft5 Barrier Trial-3UECOPN $000 Mark Newnham 0kg Barrier 0 1st Landing 0kg, 3rd It's a Dundeel (NZ) 0kg 1:11.80, 0.8L
WON of 10 Rosehill 02Mar13 1400m Heavy9 HOBARTVILLE STAKES Group 2 $201,700 ($121,700) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 8 2nd Rebel Dane 56.5kg, 3rd Proisir 56.5kg 1:24.75 (600m 36.03), 0.1L, 4th@800m, 4th@400m, $1.65/$1.90/$1.80
WON of 10 Rosehill 23Mar13 1300m Good3 CANTERBURY  STAKES Group 1 $355,000 ($215,000) Jim Cassidy 56kg Barrier 7 Rtg 114 2nd More Joyous (NZ) 57kg, 3rd Solzhenitsyn (NZ) 59kg 1:15.99 (600m 34.87), 0.8L, 3rd@800m, 2nd@400m, $1.85/$2/$2
WON of 12 Rosehill 06Apr13 1500m Soft7 GEORGE RYDER STAKES Group 1 $405,000 ($245,000) Nash Rawiller 56.5kg Barrier 7 Rtg 116 2nd King Mufhasa (NZ) 59kg, 3rd Shoot Out 59kg 1:31.08 (600m 34.99), 0.4L, 6th@800m, 7th@400m, $1.30/$1.40/$1.35
2nd of 18 Randwick 20Apr13 1600m Heavy10 DONCASTER HANDICAP Group 1 $2,012,000 ($400,000) Nash Rawiller 57kg Barrier 2 Rtg 117 1st Sacred Falls (NZ) 53kg, 3rd Norzita (NZ) 53kg 1:37.99 (600m 35.57), 0.8L, 8th@800m, 7th@400m, $3.20/$3.60/$3.50

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