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« 2019-May-05, 12:00 PM Reply #1875 »
Reckless and Tommy Woodcock was a great story. Reckless did run second in the Cup with 56.5 but Gold and Black had his measure.

He was in the 1990s (?) video 10 Great Champions of the Modern Era but that was more for the romance of his career and trainer than the results.

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« 2019-May-05, 04:07 PM Reply #1876 »
I heard an interview with  the owner once. It was amazing what the poor horse  went through.
I wish I could find it

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« 2019-May-05, 06:09 PM Reply #1877 »
Reckless was bred out of Impulsive who won the Merson Cooper (forerunner tot he Blue Diamond) for Woodcock  but had to settle for placings behind Sky High and Wenona Girl in the Slipper, and Wenona Girl in the VRC Sires Produce and 1000 Guineas.  Notably Impulsive was the daughter of Spitfire, an Oakleigh Plate winner. 


RECKLESS
1970 dark bay/brown horse
By BETTER BOY (Ire) - IMPULSIVE
Owned by Mesdames Godfrey & Walker
Trained by Tommy Woodcock

Career Record
 
57 starts  8 wins   4 seconds   5 thirds $266,340
Win : 14.0%  Place : 29.8%  Range :  1600m to 3200m  Average Win :  2587m



1972-73 at TWO YEARS
29Nov   10th   of   13   Sandown   HeathmontStakes   1000m   53   Court&Conquer   53   0;59.9   Good
21Mar   15th   of   17   Sandown   Devonshire Hcp   1200m   51   Forest Boy   53   01:13.6   Good
7Apr      9th   of   13   MValley   Somerton Hcp   1200m   49   Cut And Deal   54   01:12.9   Good
14Apr   5th   of   16   Caulfield   Limerick Hcp   1200m   48.5   Cut And Deal   57   01:13.3   Good
21Apr   5th   of   13   Caulfield   Orrong Hcp   1200m   48   Starpyrean   55   01:12.3   Slow

1973-74 At THREE YEARS

4Aug   10th   of   15   Caulfield   Gardenvale Hcp   1400m   49   Gothish   53.5   01:30.2   Slow
25Aug   13th   of   16   Sandown   Belhaven Hcp   1400m   49   Grand Cidium   58   01:30.6   Slow
22Sep   10th   of   16   Caulfield   Carrum Hcp   1400m   49   Royal Volo   52   01:28.5   Slow
17Oct   5th   of   15   Caulfield   Wallace Stakes   2000m   48.5   Lord Metric   50   02:03.9   Good
27Oct   4th   of   14   MValley   Greenvale Hcp   1600m   48   QuezonEmperor   48   01:41.8   Slow
8Nov   9th   of   20   Flemington   Batman Hcp   2000m   48   Bush Win   58.5   02:01.8   Good
13Apr   3RD   of   14   Caulfield   Glenhuntly Hcp   1200m   49   Kentland   57   01:16.3   Heavy
25Apr   5th   of   27   Flemington   Lone Pine Hcp   1200m   49   MakeMinePerfume   54.5   01:12.4   Slow
15May   6th   of   14   Caulfield   Chairman's Hcp   1600m   50.5   Aya Sofia   50   01:46.4   Heavy
1Jun   7th   of   13   M Valley   Healesville Hcp   1600m   49   Tigerbolt   53   01:42.7   Slow
26Jun   8th   of   15   Werribee   3yoIntermediate   1500m   51   Rangitahi   54.5   01:33.6   Good
25Jul   6th   of      Cranbourne   Maiden   2050m   54   Doge   51   02:12.4   Good

1974-75 At FOUR YEARS
14Sep   11th   of   18   Flemington   Lewis Hcp   1200m   49.5   Citadel   57   01:15.6   Slow
28Sep   2ND   of   13   M Valley   Bulla Hcp   1600m   48   Stockton   57   01:43.3   Slow
16Oct   4th   of   11   Caulfield   Iolo Welter   1600m   49.5.   Nicochat   49.5   01:47.7   Heavy
26Oct   9th   of   14   M Valley   Phoenix Hcp   1600m   48   Romantic Son   60   01:39.9   Slow
9Nov   2ND   of   20   Flemington   GreySmithSks   2000m   48.5   Mr.Pompous   56   02:02.9   Good
23Nov   4th   of   17   Caulfield   Ormond Hcp   2400m   54   Farnroda   53.5   02:28.9   Good
7Dec     3RD   of   13   Sandown   Palfresco Hcp   2400m   54   Deuce   51   02:34.2   Good
21Dec   10th   of   15   M Valley   Yuletide Hcp   2600m   54   Tipping Time   51   02:47.3   Good
19Feb   4th   of   13   Seymour   Maiden   1400m   49   Merry Venture   49   01:26.1   Good
1Mar   11th   of   13   Caulfield   Booran Welter   1600m   51   Arlo   52.5   01:39.0   Good
28Jun   6th   of   11   M Valley   Oak Park Hcp   1200m   49   Wandle   51.5   01:13.2   Good
10Jul   5th   of   18   Geelong   Maiden   1500m   53.5   Srene Pride   54   01:33.0   Good
30Jul   4th   of      Bendigo   Progressive   1600m   50   Man A Million   57   01:36.8   Good

1975-76 At FIVE YEARS
27Aug   6th   of   13   Flemington   Peter Pan Welter   1600m   52   Rangitoto   56.5   01:42.9   Slow
6Sep     3RD   of   14   Caulfield   Doona Hcp   2400m   50.5   CardinalCourage   52   02:32.7   Heavy
25Sep   4th   of   11   Caulfield   MetropolitanHcp   2400m   49.5   Nandalie Lass   54   02:30.5   Slow
1Oct       WON   of   14   Flemington   VRC Galilee Hcp   2500m   54   Sterling Prince   50   02:40.4   Good
8Nov   8th   of   10   Flemington   Fisher Plate   2500m   46   Four Leaf   47.5   02:42.5   Slow

1976-77 At SIX YEARS
15Aug   8th   of   15   Sandown   ManchesterWelter   1600m   54.5   Trolley   54.5   01:43.8   Heavy
25Aug   WON   of   13   Flemington   VRC PeterPanWelter   1600m   53.5   Karapali   55.5   01:40.4   Good
7Sep   6th   of   12   Sandown   HighCasteWelter   1600m   56   Militant Road   52   01:42.3   Slow
29Sep   6th   of   14   Flemington   NightmarchWelter   1600m   55   Militant Road   55.5   01:38.0   Good
9Oct   8th   of   10   Caulfield   HerbertPowerHcp   2400m   49   Van Der Hum   55   02:35.8   Heavy
30-Oct  WON   of   15   Flemington   VRC Hotham Hcp   2500m   47   Summer Hay   49.5   02:35.7   Good
2Nov   4th   of   23   Flemington   Melbourne Cup   3200m   46.5   Van Der Hum   54.5   03:34.1   Heavy
13Nov   7th   of   17   Sandown   Sandown Cup   2400m   49.5   Kiwi Can   55   02:28.6   Good
11-Dec    5th   of   10   Flemington   Scobie Hcp   2600m   56   Gay Master   55.5   02:48.2   Good
8Mar   8th   of   13   MValley   Woodbine Hcp   1600m   49.5   Grand Rischio   50   01:36.4   Good
19Mar   3RD   of   19   Flemington   Brunswick Hcp   2000m   50   Vacuum   53.5   02:02.6   Good
2Apr     2ND   of   17   Sandown   Narong Welter   1600m   54.5   Nearest   57.5   01:36.6   Good
11Apr   WON   of   20   Randwick   AJC Sydney Cup   3200m   49.5   Gold And Black   55   03:19.4   Good
25Apr   WON   of   14   Flemington   VRC Shaggy Ridge Hcp   2500m   54   Irish Fair   49   02:38.0   Good
16May   WON   of   13   Morph'ville   SAJC Adelaide Cup   3200m   52   Straight Up   47   03:25.8   Good
13Jun   WON   of   14   Eagle Farm   QTC Brisbane Cup   3200m   55.5   Ngawyni   59.5   03:19.5   Good

1977-78 At SEVEN YEARS
27Aug   5th   of   17   Sandown   Grange Hcp   1600m   56   Sir Flight   51.5   01:37.4   Good
22Sep   8th   of   11   Caulfield   Underwood Sks   1984m   59   Denise's Joy   56.5   02:08.0   Good
8Oct   4th   of   11   Caulfield   Caulfield Stakes   1984m   49   Family Of Man   57   02:00.7   Good
1Nov   2ND   of   24   Flemington   Melbourne Cup   3200m   56.5   Gold And Black   56.5   03:18.4   Good
17Dec   WON   of   13   Flemington   VRC Robertson Hcp   2000m   60.5   Sir Sahib   50.5   02:03.7   Good
2Jan   3RD   of   16   Ascot   Perth Cup   3200m   57.5   Golden Centre   56.5   03:20.1   Good

Died 6 June 1986
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« 2019-May-16, 05:58 PM Reply #1878 »
Here's a list of horses which won 4 or more G1s in a season from the start of the pattern system in 1979-80

4 or more Group 1s in a season
(5 or more in bold and * if any outside Australia)



Kingston Town                 1979-80 (6), 1982-83
Mighty Kingdom             1979-80
Sovereign Red                 1980-81
Emancipation                   1983-84
Bonecrusher*                   1985-86, 1986-87
Tristarc                             1985-86
Beau Zam                        1987-88
Campaign King                1987-88
Our Poetic Prince             1988-89
Research                           1988-89
Better Loosen Up*            1989-90, 1990-91
Shaftesbury Avenue         1990-91
Super Impose                   1990-91
Let’s Elope                        1991-92
Rough Habit*                    1991-92
Schillaci                             1991-92
Slight Chance                    1992-93
Veandercross*                   1992-93
Mahogany                         1993-94
Jeune                                 1994-5
Octagonal                          1995-96, 1996-97
Encounter                          1997-98
Might and Power               1997-98
Grand Archway                  1998-99
Tie the Knot                       1998-99
Sunline*                             2000-01, 2001-02
Lonhro                               2002-03, 2003-04
Northerly                           2002-03
Elvstroem*                         2004-05
Grand Armee                    2004-05
Miss Andretti                    2006-07
Miss Finland                     2006-07
Apache Cat                       2007-08
Weekend Hussler             2007-08 (6)

Typhoon Tracy                 2009-10
Black Caviar                     2010-11 (6), 2011-12
More Joyous                    2010-11
So You Think*                  2010-11 (6)
Mosheen                       2011-12
All Too Hard                    2012-13
It’s a Dundeel                  2012-13
Ocean Park*                2012-13
Dissident                        2014-15
Chautauqua*                  2015-16
Winx                           2015-16, 2016-17 (6), 2017-18 (6), 2018-19 (7)
Black Heart Bart             2016-17
The Autumn Sun           2018-19

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« 2019-May-16, 07:59 PM Reply #1879 »
pwa

I may not have recorded all the G1 4s and I have not berified there complete career records ut here is my list on G1s with all the 4s at the end of the 5+.  The 5 or more G1s are up to date. I have included countries they raced in.

Horse   Countries raced   Group 1 wins
MANIKATO (AUS) 1975   AUS   4 (after 31 July 1979)
KINGSTON TOWN (AUS) 1976   AUS   14
MIGHTY KINGDOM (AUS) 1976   AUS   5
SOVEREIGN RED (NZ) 1977   AUS   6
EMANCIPATION (AUS) 1979   AUS   6
MCGINTY (NZ) 1979 ('Mr McGinty' in AUS)   NZ, AUS, JAP   6
STRAWBERRY ROAD (AUS) 1979  ('Strawberry Road II' in USA)   AUS, GER, FRA, USA, JAP, GB   6
BOUNTY HAWK (NZ) 1980   AUS, JAP, NZ   5
TRISTARC (NZ) 1981   AUS   5
BONECRUSHER (NZ) 1982   NZ, AUS, JAP   9
CAMPAIGN KING (AUS) 1982   AUS   7
BOUNDING AWAY (AUS) 1983   AUS   6
HORLICKS (NZ) 1983   NZ, AUS, JAP   6
VO ROGUE (AUS) 1983   AUS   6
BEAU ZAM (NZ) 1984   AUS   5
Poetic Prince (AUS) 1984 ('Our Poetic Prince' in AUS)   NZ, AUS, JAP   4
SUPER IMPOSE (NZ) 1984   AUS   8
MR. TIZ (AUS) 1984   NZ, AUS   5 + 2 x DH
PLANET RULER (AUS) 1984   AUS   5
BETTER LOOSEN UP (AUS) 1985   AUS, JAP   8
ZEDITAVE (AUS) 1985   AUS   5
ROUGH HABIT (NZ) 1986   NZ, AUS, USA, JAP   11
SHAFTESBURY AVENUE (AUS) 1986   AUS, JAP   6
CASTLETOWN (NZ) 1986   NZ, AUS   6
DURBRIDGE (AUS) 1987   AUS   6
TRISCAY (AUS) 1987   AUS   5
SURFERS PARADISE (NZ) 1987   NZ, AUS   5
SCHILLACI (AUS) 1988   AUS   8
VEANDERCROSS (NZ) 1988   NZ, AUS   8
SLIGHT CHANCE (NZ) 1989   AUS   6
MAHOGANY (AUS) 1990   AUS   8
DANEWIN (AUS) 1991   AUS, JAP, UAE   5
OCTAGONAL (NZ) 1992   AUS   10
INTERGAZE (AUS) 1993   AUS   8
MIGHT AND POWER (NZ) 1993   AUS   7
TIE THE KNOT (AUS) 1994   AUS   13
ENCOUNTER (AUS) 1994   AUS   6
SUNLINE (NZ) 1995   NZ, AUS, HK, UAE   13
NORTHERLY (AUS) 1996   AUS   9
TESTA ROSSA (AUS) 1996   AUS, HK, JAP   6
TIT FOR TAAT (NZ) 1997 (Aus Newspaper says 6)   NZ, SING, AUS   4 + 1 DH
GRAND ARMEE (AUS) 1998   AUS, HK   7
LONHRO (AUS) 1998   AUS   11
MAKYBE DIVA (GB) 1999   AUS, JAP   7
MUMMIFY (AUS) 1999   AUS, SING   5
TAKEOVER TARGET (AUS) 1999   AUS, GB, JAP, SING   8
DESERT WAR (AUS) 2000    AUS   6
ELVSTROEM (AUS) 2000    AUS, UAE, HK, GB, FRA   5
STARCRAFT (NZ) 2000   AUS, NZ, GB, FRA, USA   5
VENGEANCE OF RAIN (NZ) 2000 ('Subscribe' in AUS)   AUS, HK, UAE   6
EREMEIN (AUS) 2001   AUS   5
MISS ANDRETTI (AUS) 2001   AUS, GB, HK   5
NICONERO (AUS) 2001   AUS, HK, UAE   5
SIR SLICK (NZ) 2001   NZ, HK, SING, AUS   6
APACHE CAT (AUS) 2002   AUS, HK   8
RACING TO WIN (AUS) 2002    AUS, HK   5
SEACHANGE (NZ) 2002    NZ, AUS, UAE, GB    7
MISS FINLAND (AUS) 2003   AUS   5
THESEO (AUS) 2003   AUS   5
MUFHASA (NZ) 2004 ('King Mufhasa' in AUS)   NZ, AUS   10
WEEKEND HUSSLER (AUS) 2004   AUS   7
TYPHOON TRACY (AUS) 2005   AUS   6
VEYRON (NZ) 2005   NZ, AUS   5
BLACK CAVIAR (AUS) 2006   AUS, GB   15
MORE JOYOUS (NZ) 2006   AUS   8
SHOOT OUT (NZ) 2006   AUS   5
SO YOU THINK (NZ) 2006    AUS, IRE, UK, FRA, UAE, USA   10
BUFFERING (AUS) 2007   AUS, HK, UAE   7
JIMMY CHOUX (NZ) 2007   NZ, AUS, HK   5
OCEAN PARK (NZ) 2008   NZ, AUS, UAE   5
BOBAN (AUS) 2009   AUS   5
DUNDEEL (NZ) 2009 ('It's A Dundeel' in Aust)   NZ, AUS   6
LANKAN RUPEE (AUS) 2009   AUS   5
PIERRO (AUS) 2009   AUS   5
BLACK HEART BART (AUS) 2010   AUS   5
CHAUTAUQUA (AUS) 2010   AUS, HK   6
DISSIDENT (AUS) 2010   AUS   5
WINX (AUS) 2011   AUS   24
Melody Belle (NZ) 2014   NZ, AUS   6
THE AUTUMN SUN (AUS) 2015   AUS   5
Beauty Generation (NZ) 2012 (late Montaigne in AUS)   AUS, HK   6
Santa Ana Lane (AUS) 2012   AUS   5
      
      
Red Anchor (NZ) 1981   AUS   4
Rubiton (AUS) 1983   AUS   4
Poetic Prince (AUS) 1984 ('Our Poetic Prince' in AUS)   NZ, AUS, JAP   4
Let's Elope (NZ) 1987   NZ, AUS, JAP, USA   4
Saintly (NZ) 1992   AUS   4
Dane Ripper (AUS) 1993   AUS   4
Happyanunoit (NZ) 1995   NZ, AUS, USA   4
El Segundo (NZ) 2001   AUS   4
Danleigh (AUS) 2003   AUS   4
Starspangledbanner (AUS) 2006   AUS, GB, IRE   4
Atlantic Jewel (AUS) 2008   AUS   4
Sepoy (AUS) 2008   AUS, UAE, UK   4
Mosheen (AUS) 2008   AUS   4
All Too Hard (AUS) 2009   AUS   4
Criterion (NZ) 2010   AUS, HK, GB   4
Our Ivanhowe (GER) 2010 (Ivanhowe in Europe)   GER, FRA, JAP, AUS   4
Hartnell (GB) 2011   GB, FRA, AUS   4
Preferment (NZ) 2011   AUS, HK   4
Trapeze Artist (AUS) 2014   AUS   4

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« 2019-May-16, 09:17 PM Reply #1880 »
Thanks Tim. I had them listed by total number (Winx has 25 at the top) so crosschecked and I had overlooked Theseo.

Here's my list of the others with 4 G1s to add to yours. I may have missed a couple or counted a non-G1.

Hyperno (1973)
Hayai (1979)
Alibhai (1980)
Vite Cheval (1980)
Almaarad (1983)
Flotilla (1984)
Research (1985)
Sydeston (1985)
Dr Grace (1986)
Mannerism (1987)
All Our Mob (1989)
Jeune (1989)
Primacy (1989)
Juggler (1991)
Grand Archway (1995)
Sky Heights (1995)
Redoute’s Choice (1996)
Ethereal (1997)
Old Comrade (1997)
Show A Heart (1997)
Universal Prince (1997)
Alinghi (2001)
Divine Madonna (2002)
Serenade Rose (2002)
Tuesday Joy (2003)
Metal Bender (2005)
Appearance (2008)
Atlantic Jewel (2008)
Silent Achiever (2008)
Streama (2008)
Sacred Falls (2009)
Guelph (2010)

And even though it might be more than a list too far, here are my best with 3 G1s in no particular order.

Efficient
Hay List
Private Steer
Fields of Omagh
Shogun Lodge
Doriemus
Naturalism
Stylish Century
Placid Ark
Spirit of Kingston
At Talaq
Rising Prince
Grosvenor
Rose of Kingston
Belmura Lad

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« 2019-May-16, 10:05 PM Reply #1881 »
Of the post 1979-80 era horses listed above, if luck had been on her side, I sometimes wonder whether Atlantic Jewel could been the greatest - but i am dreamin

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« 2019-May-16, 10:26 PM Reply #1882 »
There was something special about Atlantic Jewel, Tim.  She went within a nose of being unbeaten.

Red Anchor was another it would have been good to see race on. He could have dominated the mid-80s.

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« 2019-Jun-20, 12:45 PM Reply #1883 »
There's another instalment just put on line in Ian Ibbett's great series on the AJC Derbies, this time 1975.

https://kingsoftheturf.com/1975-no-sign-of-battlers/

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« 2019-Jul-09, 06:03 PM Reply #1884 »
Kevin Bartlett’s departure from SEN radio: 

Back in the early 2000’s I was listening to Kevin on radio (possibly pre SEN) when he pronounced Bernborough  the greatest horse he had seen. That statement started a quest to research and document the careers of heaps of horses and led me eventually to this website. I enjoyed listening to Kevin on radio and wish him all the very best for the future.       

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« 2019-Sep-03, 08:30 PM Reply #1885 »
BEAUFORD (1916) by Beau Soult from Blueford

Beauford is most famous for his 4 weight-for-age meetings with Gloaming in the Sydney spring of 1922. Derby Day, for example, attracted a crowd of 80,000 despite a wet morning and the papers commented that the 10s of 1000s more than expected were there to witness the Spring Stakes Beauford-Gloaming clash. The 4 races ended 2 all.
The brown gelding from Newcastle hit top form as a 5yo winning 8 races in a row beating horses like Eurythmic over which he had a 6 length margin in the Autumn Stakes.
Unfortunately, a leg injury in the 1923 Hill Stakes ruined the rest of his career but at his peak in 1922 he was regarded as up there with Gloaming and Eurythmic as the “champion of Australasia”. He never raced outside New South Wales but deserves his reputation as one of the great milers.
His race record is in Peter Pring’s Analysis of Champion Racehorses and in Tony Arrold’s More Champions. There are a few additions and amendments here including a Newcastle race in June 1920 that appears to have been missed.

That gives him a career record of 38 starts 17 wins, 6 seconds, 4 thirds


3yo (1919-1920)
8 starts 2/2/1


Unpl – 6/12/19 Maitland Novice Handicap Second Division 6 f, 7st 7lb (B. Daniels), 1st Mountain Range 8st 3lb, 2nd Valpre 7st, 1min 17sec, length, 14 starters, 10-20/1
Unpl – 26/1/1920 Maitland Novice Handicap 6f, 7st 4½lb, 1st Lady-Killer (7st 11lb), 2nd Malt Addie (7st 4lb), 1min 16sec, 4 lengths, 18 starters, 5/1
Unpl – 17/2/1920 Gosford Lerida Welter 6f, 8st (B. Daniels), 1st Ronalyn (9st), 2nd Cragrose (9st 3lb), 1min 16sec, ¾ length, 10 starters, 20/1+
1st – 5/4/1920 Wallsend Novice Handicap 6f, 7st 1½lb (B. Daniels), 2nd Sir Hatan (8st 4lb), 1min 15sec, 6 lengths, 16 starters, 5/4 on fav
2nd – 12/5/1920 Newcastle High-weight Handicap 6f, 8st (A. Orrell), 1st Cool Sam (8st 6lb), 1min 16¾sec, neck, 12 starters, 7/4 fav
3rd – 16/6/1920 Newcastle Queen’s Hcp 6f, 7st ½ lb (B. Daniels), 1st Ayrmagh (7st 4lb), 2nd Varcotine (8st 2lb), 1min 16sec, length, 1½ lengths, 9 starters, 2/1 fav
2nd – 17/6/1920 Newcastle Shorts Hcp 7f, 7st ½lb (B. Daniels), 1st Ayrmagh (7st 11lb), 3rd Spillway (9st 2lb), 1min 29¾sec, head, ¾ length, 7 starters, 3/1
1st – 17/7/1920 Newcastle Flying Hcp 6f, 7st 6lb (B. Daniels), 2nd Persian Cat (9st 4lb), 1min 16sec, 4 lengths, 12 starters, 2/1

4yo (1920-21)
7 starts 4/-/2


1st – 2/10/1920 Randwick AJC Kensington Hcp 7f, 8st 11lb (B. Daniels), 2nd Elkin (9st 11lb), 16 starters, 1min 26sec, length, 18 starters, 14/1
1st – 9/10/1920 Randwick AJC Chester Hcp 6f, 9st 6lb (B. Daniels), 2nd Julia Grey (9st 4lb), 1min 12sec, neck, 15 starters, 4/1 fav

3rd – 29/12/1920 Randwick Tattersall’s Carrington Stakes 6f, 8st 2lb (B. Daniels), 1st Glenacre (8st 4lb), 1min 12¾sec, 3 lengths, ¾ length, 27 starters,14/1
1st – 1/1/1921 Randwick (Tattersall’s) Flying Hcp 6f, 8st 5lb (A. Wood), 2nd Ready Aye Ready (9st 2lb), 1min 13½sec, 2 lengths, 8 starters, 6/4 fav
1st – 12/3/1921 Rosehill RRC Railway Hcp 7f, 9st 2lb (A. Wood), 2nd Demonte (7st 13lb), 1min 26¾sec, 2 lengths, 22 starters, 9/2

3rd – 26/3/1921 Randwick AJC Doncaster Hcp 1 mile, 8st 11lb (A. Wood), 1st Speciality (7st 9lb), 2nd Wish Wynne (7st 4lb), 1min 37½sec, ½ length, ½ length, 19 starters, 7/2fav
Unpl – 30/3/1921 Randwick AJC All-Aged Stakes 1 mile, 8st 11lb (W. MacLachlan), 1st Speciality (8st 6lb), 2nd Coolstone (8st 12lb), 3rd Richmond Main (9st), , 1min 37½sec, ¾ length, ½ length, 9 starters, 5/1

5yo (1921-22)
9 starts 8/-/-


Unpl – 13/8/1921 Newcastle Shorts Handicap 6f, 10st 8lb (B. Daniels), 1st Alfort (9st 13lb), 2nd Ayrmagh (8st 9lb), 1min 17sec, length, 14 starters, 20/1+
1st – 10/9/1921 Randwick Tatts Tramway Handicap 7f, 9st 8lb (A. Wood), 2nd Greenstead (10st 5lb), 3rd Wish Wynne (8st 10lb), , 1min 25½sec, 2 lengths, 1½ lengths, 15 starters, 8/1
1st – 17/9/1921 Rosehill RRC Hill Stakes 1 mile, 9st (A. Wood), 2nd Violoncello (9st 3lb), 3rd Popaway (7st 4lb), 1min 36¼sec, 3 lengths, ¾ length, 11 starters, 5/2
1st – 1/10/1921 Randwick AJC Epsom Hcp 1 mile, 9st 2lb (A. Wood), 2nd Dunwil (7st 5lb), 3rd Wish Wynne (8st 8lb), 2½ lengths, 2 lengths, 1min 37½sec, 19 starters, 7/4fav
1st – 5/10/1921 Randwick AJC Craven Plate 10f, 9st 1lb (A. Wood), 2nd Syce Knight (9st) 3rd Furious (7st 6lb), 2min 3¼sec (Australasian Record), 3 lengths, 1½ lengths, 8 starters, 5/4fav
1st – 11/3/1922 Newcastle Shorts Hcp 6f, 11st 9lb (B. Daniels), 2nd Padora (6st 7lb), 3rd Orion (8st), 1min 14¼sec, neck, ½ length, 14 starters, evens fav
1st – 1/4/1922 Rosehill RRC Rawson Stakes 9f, 8st 13lb (A. Wood), 2nd Swift Shot (8st 13lb), 3rd Furious (8st 4lb), 1min 52sec, 2½ lengths, 2 lengths, 6 starters, 3/1 on fav
1st – 15/4/1922 Randwick AJC Autumn Stakes 12f, 9st (A. Wood), 2nd Sister Olive (8st 8lb), 3rd Eurythmic (9st 3lb), 2min 32¼sec, 2 lengths, 3 lengths, 5 starters 2/1
1st – 19/4/1922 Randwick AJC All-Aged Stakes 1 mile, 8st 12lb (A. Wood), 2nd Tangalooma (8st 12lb), 3rd Julia Grey (8st 13lb), 1min 37sec, 3 lengths, 8 lengths, 6 starters, 10/1 on


6yo (1922/23)
4 starts 2/2/-


1st – 9/9/1922 Randwick Tattersall’s Chelmsford Stakes 9f, 9st 8lb (A. Wood), 2nd Gloaming (9st 8lb), 3rd David (9st 11lb), 1 min 53sec, ¾ length, 1¼ lengths, 14 starters, 10/9 on fav
2nd – 16/9/1922 Rosehill RRC Hill Stakes 8f, 9st 7lb (A. Wood), 1st Gloaming (9st), 3rd Soorak (7st 12lb), 1min 38¼ sec (course record), 1¼ lengths, 5 lengths, 9 starters, 5/2 on fav
1st – 30/9/1922 Randwick AJC Spring Stakes 12f, 9st 3lb (A. Wood) 2nd Gloaming (9st 3lb) 3rd Speciality (9st 5lb), 2min 33½sec, neck, 4 lengths, 8 starters, evens fav
2nd – 4/10/1922 Randwick AJC Craven Plate 10f, 9st 1lb (A. Wood), 1st Gloaming (9st 4lb) 3rd Violoncello (9st 4lb), 2min 4sec, 3 lengths, length, 6 starters, evens eq. fav

7yo (1923-24)
2 starts 1/1/-


1st – 1/9/1923 Newcastle Cameron Stakes 7f, 9st (A. Wood), 2nd Black Scot (7st 12lb), 3rd Cliffdale (8st 11lb), 4 lengths, 1min 28¾sec, 5 starters, 5/1 on fav
2nd – 15/9/1923 Rosehill RRC Hill Stakes 1 mile, 9st (A. Wood), 1st The Hawk (9st), 3rd Rahiri (7st 12lb), 1min 39sec, 2 lengths, 3 lengths, 8 starters, 5/2 on fav

8yo (1924-25)
4 starts -/1/-


2nd – 28/3/1925 Rosehill RRC Railway Hcp First Division 7f, 10st 5lb (J. Pike), 1st Valiant (8st 7lb), 3rd King’s Carnival (8st 13lb), 1min 25¼sec, 1¼ lengths, ¾ length, 14 starters, 5/2 fav
Unpl – 4/4/1925 Warwick Farm AJC Liverpool Hcp 6f. 10st 7lb (J. Pike), 1st Golden Voice (7st 12lb), 2nd Brimming (7st 9lb), 1min 13¼sec, 2 lengths, 22 starters, 2/1 fav
Unpl – 15/4/1925 Randwick AJC All-Aged Stakes 1 mile, 8st 12lb (W. Duncan), 1st The Hawk (8st 12lb), 2nd Whittier (9st 1lb), 3rd The Night Patrol (9st 1lb), 1min 37¼sec, ¾ length, 1¼ lengths, 5 starters, 12/1
Unpl – 2/5/1925 Randwick Tattersall’s Denman Stakes 6f, 10st 4lb (J. Pike), 1st Coleus (7st 5lb), 2nd Ararat (7st 6lb), 1min 13sec, 1½ lengths, 17 starters, 12/1

9yo (1925-26)
4 starts -/-/1


3rd – 8/5/1926 Warwick Farm AJC Prospect Hcp 6f, 10st 3lb, (J. Pike), 1st Duke Isinglass (8st 6lb), 2nd Valais Queen (8st 5lb), , 1min 14sec, ½ length, head, 17 starters, 25/1
Unpl – 15/5/1926 Randwick Tattersall’s Flying Hcp 6f, 9st 12lb (J. Pike), 1st Janitor (7st), 2nd Wedding Eve (8st), 3rd Golden Voice (8st 4lb), 1min 13½sec, 1¼ lengths, 13 starters, 4/1 eq. fav
Unpl – 9/7/1926 Rosehill RRC Flying Hcp 7f, 9st 9lb (J. Pike), 1st Don Moon (7st 3lb), 2nd Mingelo (8st 3lb), 3rd Bagpipes (7st 10lb), 1min 27sec, ½ length, 13 starters, 5/1
Unpl – 24/7/1926 Warwick Farm AJC Horsley Hcp, 9st 7lb (J. Pike), 1st Tallulah (8st), 2nd Bersur (6st 9lb), 1min 14½sec, ½ length, 13 starters, 7/4 fav

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« 2019-Sep-05, 04:00 PM Reply #1886 »
Well spotted pwa,   Pring makes so few errors.

This was my summary of Beauford on the old blog...

Beauford emerged from Newcastle in 1920/21 as a highly promising 4YO and certainly fulfilled that promise at five stringing 9 successive wins together that included an easy Epsom Handicap under 9.2, and leaving Eurythmic many lengths adrift in the Autumn Stakes.  He returned in the Spring to complete the sequence by ending Gloaming's winning streak in the Chelmsford Stakes in the first of four showdowns  between the champs that Spring that resulted in two wins and two seconds each.

This horse was asked to carry 11st9lb (74kg) in winning the 1922 Newcastle Shorts conceding the runner up 5st 2lb  ( that's right, 72lbs (33kg)  ! -

I challenge anyone to find me a greater concession between winner and runner up in Australian turf history ....

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« 2019-Sep-05, 06:59 PM Reply #1887 »
I'd say that 33kg difference is a pretty safe bet, Tonto!

I thought I'd have a look at Beauford as it's the centenary of his first start and he seems to have been a little overshadowed by some of the other champions of the 1920s.

There's an informative article by "Warrawee" of The Referee from 1930 in which he ranks Beauford as 4th on his list of great milers behind Phar Lap, Gloaming and Manfred but ahead of Heroic, Woorak, Marvel, Limerick and then Gothic or Mollison.  He was very highly regarded at the time.

Beauford gets an avenue named after him in Maryland, Newcastle as does another Newcastle champ, Rogilla, who has a Close named after him. Carbine, Archer, Vain, Gloaming, Ajax, Gunsynd, Dalray, Bernborough, Archer and Tulloch are the other champions commemorated by street names in a sub-division there.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/131173787

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/131173788

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« 2019-Nov-07, 10:52 AM Reply #1888 »
It's good to see Miller's Guide back. I haven't seen a printed copy but there are some historical records online at https://beteasy.com.au/millersguide/ including full results of the major races and partial results of many others.


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« 2020-Mar-16, 06:16 PM Reply #1889 »
Clearly this isn’t  the best thread for this but it seems the most suitable that I can find

For some reason I googled an old horse I loved called Brandy Sipper. He finished off the best day I ever had in the punt in a cold & wet Randwick  day many moons ago.

Anyways, I found a forum where a guy used his ratings for all the horses from 1980. Some wonderful memories for us oldies
 :lol:

I have decided to rate past racing greats (and not so greats) using my own ratings sytem.

I will be starting off with the year of 1980. I will eventually in time do all years from 1980 until the present.

I have decided to not go by the racing year. Instead i will be just basing the year from Jan 1st to Dec 31st. This will mean horses will rate under racing as 2yo's and 3yo's for part of the year and also for 3yo's and 4yo's and above. Not sure if it will work out, but i'll put it out there and see what sort of result and responses i get.

So under my system this is how the year of 1980 rated....

446     Kingston Town
215     Sovereign Red
180     Dark Eclipse
176     Manikato
175     Hyperno
157     Yashmak
137     Turf Ruler
136     Hit it Benny
136     Prince Ruling
133     Verdi
132     Marjoleo
130     Biscadale
130     Iko
128     Lowan Star
120     Lady Capri
117     Minuetto
110     Royal Paree
103     Ming Dynasty
102     Family of Man
102     Palaban
101     Fiancee
99     Golden Heights
91     Aare
90     Embasadora
90     Silver Wraith
89     Grey Sapphire
88     Double Century
88     Scarlet Gem
88     Torbek
86     Arbogast
86     Mr Magic
83     Golden Rhapsody
82     Bravita
81     Love Bandit
81     My Brown Jug
80     Belmura Lad
79     Tullmax
78     Our Paddy Boy
77     Johns Hero
76     Cosmic Planet
76     Watney
75     Blazing Bags
75     Joy
74     Beldale Ball
74     Bit of a Skite
74     November Rain
74     Shaybisc
74     Stage Hit
71     Mr Independent
69     Our Cavalier
68     Palace Gossip
66     Sportscast
65     Shogun
63     Bemboka Yacht
63     Countess Marizza
62     Brechin Castle
60     Outward Bound
60     Sardius
59     Pigalle
59     Silver Bounty
57     Magistrate
55     Waitangirua
55     Zephyr Zip
54     Fortune Favours
54     Nassau
54     Playboy Prince
54     Queen Inca
54     Tolhurst
52     Tynia
51     Gay Rosalind
51     Victoria Peak
50     Black Shoes
50     Consenting
50     Papermaker
49     Javea
49     Polo Player
48     Peninsula
48     Tangiers
48     Tulip Town
47     Hanalei
46     Belle Talk
46     Ducatoon
46     Pride of the Plain
45     Brava Jeannie
45     Deck The Halls
45     Glenson
44     Artist Man
44     Bold Diplomat
44     Brindisi
44     Dor Kon
44     March to Glory
44     Prince Majestic
44     Rocky Top
44     Scomeld
44     Seltrice
44     Tasman
43     Zephyr Zing
41     Bright Halo
40     Baglaga Miss
40     Blue Kazan
40     Domax
40     Emblem Boy
40     Soeasy
40     Starshine Girl
39     Lauriat
38     Impish Prince
38     Star Dancer
37     Asian Beau
37     Gypsy Kingdom
37     My Blue Denim
37     Red Kilt
36     Kaupo
36     Latin Saint
36     Lovelace Watkins
36     Proud Knight
36     Summer Fleur
35     Diamond Park
35     Pay the Purple
35     Star Dynasty
34     Franconia
34     Rumpus Room
33     Sonstone
32     Brandy Sipper
32     Clive Comet
32     Hakim Boy
32     Just a Steal
32     Oriental Ruler
32     Painted Red
32     Reckon I'm Ready
32     Schaparo
32     Shahman
32     Sky Castle
32     Widen The Gap
31     Iandra Lad
30     Acamar
30     Airmond
30     Amarla
30     Anyone Home
30     Arwon
30     Big Print
30     Blue Dane
30     Bohemian Grove
30     Brunisse
30     Cloud Pink
30     Fire Thunder
30     Golden Kingdom
30     Heart Strings
30     Integrity
30     Just Jealous
30     Lada's Dream
30     Polar Air
30     Rothschild
30     Sovita
30     Tai Salute
30     Tuna Too
30     Vinegar Joe
30     Winters Dance
28     Blue and White
28     Jukebox Junior
28     Pearl Lover
28     Rontegen
28     Sarfraz
27     Baraka
27     Gay Affair
27     Jewel Flight
27     Papal Bull
26     Coronis
26     Farewell Chime
26     Meliador
26     Milunas Gem
26     Warmington
24     Better Copy
24     Black Marque
24     Bragabout
24     Culture
24     Dondal
24     Exalting
24     Exclusive Planet
24     Gleaming Prince
24     Le De'Jeuner
24     Lloyd Boy
24     Macho
24     Millantas Wish
24     Moabite
24     Oenjay Star
24     Quadtilla
24     Radiant Echo
24     Raspadora
24     Robrick Star
24     Rooney
24     There You Go
24     Tsunami
24     Under Orders
24     Who Can Say
23     Blockbuster
23     Magic Gypsy
23     Rodeo Drive
23     Son O'Biscay
23     Trim Girl
22     Airman
22     Ariva Landing
22     Calpurnicus
22     Great Klaire
22     Hauberk
22     Holflex
22     Indian Line
22     Joyita
22     Old Breck
22     Range Rover
22     Real Force
22     Steel Blade
22     Zamenhoff
21     Evander
20     A Secret Show
20     All Flags
20     Bargambler
20     Big Bickies
20     Bridge of Friendship
20     Captain Cadet
20     Diecaster
20     Flanders Fields
20     Jolly Good Thought
20     Lemongrass
20     Lord Rocky Red
20     Macs Indian
20     Massuk
20     Members Only
20     Our Epiloque
20     Pelican Point
20     Penny Edition
20     Puramaka
20     Pure Gamble
20     Purple Boy
20     Rock Show
20     Scorpio
20     Silver Orphan
20     Society Man
20     Taihape
20     Thackeray
18     Agimat
18     Clubs are Trumps
16     Always Welcome
16     Bahroona Sahib
16     Bernard
16     Diatric
16     El Laurena
16     Gilbey
16     Gold and Black
16     Knights Affair
16     Latin Atami
16     Marlborough
16     Middleton Sam
16     Prince Pherozshah
16     Salamander
16     Sans Rival
16     Spycatcher
16     Staan Castle
16     Summer Devant
16     Sutimie
16     Western Bay
15     Aldric
15     Biscapol
15     Borada
15     Cheyne River
15     Chinese Treasure
15     Definitely Ours
15     Dream Mascot
15     Gay Tambo
15     Goreham
15     Kabul
15     Kokila
15     Lady Lynne
15     Lady Manina
15     Massacre
15     Mattjust
15     McLanalor
15     Mighty Kingdom
15     Noble Miss
15     River D'Or
15     Secret Ambition
15     Valerian
15     Wotta Krakka
14     Gunderman
12     Architect
12     Bay Duke
12     Beau Regis
12     Bellini
12     Birle
12     Century Love
12     D'Aramis
12     Fair Miss
12     Firefall
12     Foamende
12     Gallivant
12     Golden Inn
12     Groomed
12     Hasten Lass
12     He'll Do
12     high Adventure
12     Kepi Vert
12     Ksar Gold
12     Lady Genevieve
12     Life Begins
12     Lough Lord
12     Micron
12     Over the Ocean
12     Rangers Son
12     Rotarian
12     Silver Meadow
12     Spear
12     Sues Lad
12     The Funofit
12     Top Ware
11     Abeyance
11     Andynuto
11     Argyle Morgan
11     Ask The Question
11     Belligirent
11     Birch Bark
11     Cordroy
11     Countess Caboul
11     Emu Court
11     Gallant Girl
11     Gay Tribo
11     La Zap
11     Lido Girl
11     Nambrook
11     Play The Game
11     Pride of Century
11     Scarlet Pearl
11     She's Blushing
11     Snow Cloud
11     Sporty Girl
11     Star Red
11     Tell Fibs
11     Tumbling
11     Windvale Beau
10     American Patrol
10     Amicus Mio
10     Aquidity
10     Bundoora Lad
10     Crown Man
10     Domino
10     Due
10     Favoloso
10     Food for Love
10     Girls Best Friend
10     Halim Pasha
10     Licence Fee
10     Prince Puckle
10     Rang Again
10     Reinalga
10     Santa Cavalier
10     Semper Tenta
10     Sovereign Khan
10     Spa Boy
10     Sunday Glen
10     Sunny Sostene
10     Trans Crest
10     Unrocel Star
10     Viv's Choice
10     Walting Hall
10     Warman
10     Zooming On
8     Atlantic Flyer
8     Atropine
8     Bow Chimes
8     Burnt Look
8     Caduceous
8     Cordelphia
8     Cosmic Delight
8     Crepellox
8     Darado Boy
8     Dealers Luck
8     Earthquake McGoon
8     Elegant Shell
8     Even Red
8     Fleetwoods Image
8     Howie
8     King Cotton
8     Kings Deal
8     Lake Street
8     March Fever
8     National Boy
8     Nutmeg Miss
8     Place Your Bets
8     Prodigal
8     Professor Picard
8     Propoganda Miss
8     Quiet Snort
8     Regal Countess
8     Shamrock
8     Snow Vain
8     Spartan Queen
8     Sprayette
8     Stevson
8     Summer Cloud
8     Whats in a Name
8     Whiskey Boy
6     Another Nuisance
6     Aussie Mselle
6     Blue Beacon
6     Castle Glenn
6     Civil Rights
6     Cool Credit
6     Coolgardie
6     Decoration
6     Deni Rose
6     Exaltara
6     Eye of the Wind
6     Gawkie
6     Ghost Dancer
6     Jetmagete
6     Jon Claude
6     Kauri Boy
6     Kerragan
6     King Green
6     Le Caleb
6     Lead Role
6     Legal Opinion
6     Light Wish
6     Lockleys
6     Quashqai
6     Ramses
6     Sky Tavern
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Feel free to comment and give your opinion on what the results have come up with. Next year to be done will be 1981. Eventually i hope to come up with the best horses since 1980.
« Last Edit: 2020-Mar-16, 06:24 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2020-Mar-16, 07:13 PM Reply #1890 »
Wily

I think you need to divide into 2yo, 3yo etc
As an aside I think a friend backed Dor Kon in a big race at Flemington at long odds which I suspect occurred in part because the name was an 'in joke' on 3RRR 'punter to punter' radio programme hosted by Slim Whittle.  I remember Mr Independent starting about 8/11F at flemington one day and Pat Hyland got rubbed out for getting him over the line first after being stuck behind a wall of horses at the 200.  Of course i was only a child when these events occurred so my memory might be a little hazy.

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« 2020-Mar-16, 07:14 PM Reply #1891 »
Some good memories there, Wily.

It would be hard to find a better calendar year than Kingston Town's 1980, 14 starts 12/1/1. 

Dark Eclipse is a surprise but she did get the Tea Rose and Magic Night Stakes to go with her Golden Slipper.

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« 2020-Mar-16, 07:44 PM Reply #1892 »
Tim, that was the Elms Handicap on Labour Day 1980. Mr Independent won his 4th in a row by a long neck but Pat Hyland caused interference in the last furlong

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« 2020-Mar-16, 08:53 PM Reply #1893 »
I remember Verdi running a slashing race in a slipper and winning an Oaks. Eventually proving an exceptional broodmare.
I think she was also the highest priced yearling at the time to go through the sales

Then again I could be wrong on all counts :censored:

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« 2020-Mar-17, 11:16 AM Reply #1894 »
I remember Verdi running a slashing race in a slipper and winning an Oaks. Eventually proving an exceptional broodmare.
I think she was also the highest priced yearling at the time to go through the sales

Then again I could be wrong on all counts :censored:

She was out of a fav of mine at the time, Hot Rhythm, so I don't doubt she went for some at the Sales.

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« 2020-Mar-17, 01:54 PM Reply #1895 »
The best horse foaled each year 1855-2011

This is another way of looking at champion racehorses; the best racehorse foaled each year rather than the horse of the racing year. (Some certainly weren’t vintage crops). This might help pass the time of day for anyone locked down. There's some commentary where it's debatable or where the horse is less known. Some race records are approximate.

Mormon (1855) 50 17/16/7

Archer (1856) 17 12/-/3

Toryboy (1857)

The poorest selection of the last 160-odd years. Toryboy won a Melbourne Cup with 7 stone but achieved little else.

Tarragon (1858) 24 12/6/1

Barwon (1859) 47 17/12/2?

Barwon won the Victorian Jockey Club Derby and St. Leger as well as the Champion Stakes. He had a long and pretty successful career, but he wasn’t in the same class as Archer and Mormon

Ramornie (1860) 10 5/2/1?

Ramornie was clearly the best 3yo of his year before being sold to race in China

Yattendon (1861) 17 11/3/-

Tim Whiffler (1862) 57 23/14/7

Fishhook (1863) 16 10/2/1
The Barb (1863) 23 16/2/1

It’s unfortunate that Fishhook was almost certainly poisoned at the end of his 3yo career, as, up to that time, he was the equal of The Barb, seen by many as the best prior to Carbine.

Fireworks (1864) 23 14/3/3
Glencoe (1864) 57 18/10/7 or 58 18/11/7

Fireworks had only 3 unplaced starts after his 3yo season, but, as a triple Derby winner (uniquely 2 Victorian Derbies plus the AJC), his record is at least the equal of Glencoe, who won many principal races, including the Melbourne Cup

Barbelle (1865) 40 12½/5/4½

The mare, Barbelle, won 3 Flying Stakes and a Doncaster but also stretched to a Sydney Cup win. She was clearly the best of her year

Charon (1866) 11 6/1/1

Florence (1867) 18 7/3/5

Dagworth (1868) 40 16/6/5

Don Juan (1869) 7 6/-/-
Lurline (1869) 28 13/3/3 Aust 18 5/2/3

Lurline has a reputation as the best mare before Wakeful, however her record, particularly in Australia, is not outstanding. The premature death of the Melbourne Cup winner, Don Juan, makes it difficult to assess how good he was

Goldsbrough (1870) 37 6/11/8

Not a great year, but Goldsbrough, with a win in the St Leger and then the Metropolitan as a 5yo, stands out from a pedestrian group

Kingsborough (1871) 24 13/6½/2

Richmond (1872) 38 13/13/1
Robin Hood (1872) 21 6/4/3

Richmond and Robin Hood competed for the title of the best 3y0 of 1875-6 with Richmond generally, but not universally, acknowledged as the superior. Richmond wasn’t very successful as an older horse, Robin Hood drowned in the City of Melbourne disaster of 1876

Briseis (1873) 17 6/2/2
Robinson Crusoe (1873) 19 11/4/2

Briseis won the Melbourne Cup as a 3yo filly carrying 6st 4lb (40kgs), after winning the VRC Derby and, earlier, the Doncaster as a 2yo carrying 35kgs. Then she won the Oaks but that flattened her. Her record is superior in present-day eyes to Robinson Crusoe’s but he was nearly a champion; 11 of his wins were in principal races including the AJC Derby

Chester (1874) 30 19/7/1
First King (1874) 15 10/3/1

Chester should be in the Hall of Fame, he is a genuine champion. First King was acknowledged by many contemporaries as superior to Chester and, as late as the early 1900s, he was regarded by some as the best horse bred in Australia. Their comparative race records favour Chester

Wellington (1875) 57 14/11/13

Petrea (1876) 17 7/5/2

Another less than stellar year. The mare, Petrea, was the best 2yo, then won the VRC Oaks, the AJC St Leger and the Sydney Cup.

Grand Flaneur (1877) 9 9/-/-
Progress (1877) 28 12/7/5

In the absence of the undefeated Grand Flaneur, (probably second only to Carbine in the 1800s), Progress would likely have been regarded as one of the top 10 of the century. Some horses are unlucky to have come up against champions

Commotion (1878) 36 13/6/8
Darebin (1878) 20 8/4/3

Commotion was very highly regarded, as much for his gameness as his record. He was probably better than Darebin, although Darebin’s Sydney Cup win alone, when he carried 61kgs, on top of his VRC Derby win over Commotion, would sway some to regard him as superior

Malua (1879) 47 12/10/3

Le Grand (1880) 21 13/1/4
Martini-Henry (1880) 10 4/2/-
Nelson (1880) 68 23/17½/7 Aust 15 4/6/1

Martini-Henry’s 3yo spring was spectacular, Le Grand’s 3yo autumn was superior. Nelson was a New Zealand great (3 Auckland Cups) and had some good wfa wins in Australia.

Trenton (1881) 13 8/3/1 Aust 8 4/2/1

Lochiel (1882) 24 8/4/4 Aust 10 3/3/-
Nordenfeldt (1882) 9 6/1/2

Nordenfeldt’s career was very brief but impressive; Lochiel was a very good New Zealander, but short of champion status so the 3yo achieves the accolade

Trident (1883) 22 15/2/2

Abercorn (1884) 35 21/8/4

Carbine (1885) 43 33/6/3 Aust 38 28/6/3

Marvel (1886) 54 15/7/7

Marvel’s 5yo season, (1891-2), marked him out as a great. He was a consummate miler. The other under consideration was Dreadnought, another superb 3yo never more than 1¼ lengths behind Carbine in 6 meetings. Marvel was superior

Paris (1887) 46 10/4/4 in Aust
Titan (1887) 46 13/5/3?

Paris was a very good handicapper, winning 2 Caulfield Cups and the Doncaster as well as some decent races in England. Titan was an outstanding 2yo, maybe the outstanding 2yo of the 19th century, but he wasn’t dominant as an older horse

Strathmore (1888) 13 7/2/2

Battalion (1889) Aust 47 18/14/2 England 9 2/2/1
Camoola (1889) 32 9/2/3

Camoola was an outstanding 3yo, Battalion emerged from Queensland to win many good principal races as an older horse. Camoola was classier

Hova (1890) 45 12/8/5?
Patron (1890) 43 9/11/5?

The versatile Hova won the Newmarket and was beaten a neck for the 1895 Melbourne Cup. If he had won that race, he would probably have been ahead of the 1894 Cup winner, Patron, who carried 9st 3lb (58.5kg) to victory as a 4yo and won some other good races

Merloolas (1891) 21 10/6/2??
Quiver (1891) 30 6½/3½/4

The mare, Quiver, famous for her dead-heat with Wallace in the 1896 Champion Stakes, might be just ahead of Merloolas, which won some good races in Sydney in 1898 and 1899, although it wasn’t an outstanding year. Both finished their racing careers in India.

Auraria (1892) 24 8½½/3/1
Merman (1892) 45 15/4/4 Aust 24 7/1/2
Wallace (1892) 22 8½½/7/3

Wallace had an outstanding 3yo season, probably putting him ahead of Merman, despite the latter’s English successes. Auraria’s 1895 Melbourne Cup win as a filly was superior to that of Briseis to which she had a very similar career. Auraria also won the VRC Oaks, the SA Derby and dead-heated with Wallace in the CB Fisher Plate.

Newhaven (1893) 38 19/6/4 Aust 25 15/4/2

Aurum (1894) 17 12/2/2
La Carabine (1894) 48 15/5/2

La Carabine was an absolutely outstanding staying mare, but Aurum was regarded by some early 20th century commentators as having the best 2/3yo record of any horse up to that time

Bobadil (1895) 23 13/6/2

Wakeful (1896) 44 25/12/2

Maltster (1897) 16 8/3/3
San Fran (1897) 24 4/7/3

Neither was a champion. San Fran was weighted at 10st 5lb for the 1902 Melbourne Cup. He was retired to stud before he fulfilled his potential, so the honours to Maltster for his 3yo season

Cruciform (1898) 31 18/9/2 Aust 4 1/1/1

Cruciform was a champion New Zealand mare. She finished in front of an aging Wakeful in 2 of her 4 Sydney starts.

Abundance (1899) 24 7/1/1

Gladsome (1900) 64 27/18/5 Aust 36 16/10/4

Dividend (1901) 44 12/4/3
Solution (1901) 47 15½/13 placings Aust 8? 5/-/-
Tartan (1901) 34 13/5/6

Tartan is forgotten now. 11 of his 13 wins were in principal races. Dividend won 2 Champion Stakes amongst other big races, although he is probably behind both Tartan and Solution. Solution came from New Zealand in 1906 to thrash the locals in several big races

Lady Wallace (1902) 28 14/5/4
Noctuiform (1902) 6 5/-/1 Aust 1 1/-/-

Noctuiform was 16 lengths in front of Lady Wallace in the AJC Derby in his only Australian start. Like a number of other Australasian champions sent to England, he was a dismal failure, but as a local 3yo he was superb. Lady Wallace was outstanding in the autumn of her 3yo season

Poseidon (1903) 33 19/4/3

Mountain King (1904) 21 12/2/1

Trafalgar (1905) 59 24/11/6

Malt King (1906) 35 12/8/6
Prince Foote (1906) 21 11/4/1

Two outstanding racehorses; Prince Foote’s 3yo record was one of the best in Australian racing history. Malt King trained on to win many good principal races as a 4 and 5yo but he was in the shadow of Prince Foote

Comedy King (1907) 28 8/7/4
Duke Foote (1907) 23 11½/-/2

Comedy King was the first imported Melbourne Cup winner and won several other principal races. Duke Foote probably had a stronger overall record including 2 Craven Plates, the Metropolitan and the Melbourne Stakes (the predecessor to the Mackinnon)

Piastre (1908) 32 7/2/4

This wasn’t a great year. Melbourne Cup winner, Piastre, added the Champion Stakes and a few other wfa races to his record

Wolawa (1909) 18 8/

Not a vintage lot, but Wolawa was the best 2 and 3yo of his year

Beragoon (1910) 16 5/3/2
Radnor (1910) at least 10 wins

This was another undistinguished group. None achieved much after their 3yo years. Radnor did win against older horses as an autumn 3yo so likely edged dual Derby winner, Beragoon

Carlita (1911) 48 13/10/8
Woorak (1911) 37 11/7/2

Woorak swept the 2yo races and trained on to win the Epsom and Oakleigh Plate, amongst other races, although the great staying mare, Carlita, had a stronger overall record including the VRC Derby and Oaks as well as winning the last of the Champion Stakes and the first running of its short-lived 3 mile successor, the King’s Plate

Desert Gold (1912) 59 36/13/5 Aust 10 4/4/2

Desert Gold’s results in Australia are less outstanding than her New Zealand record (which includes 19 straight wins). She is clearly superior to the second-best from that year, the strong middle-distance performer Cetigne

Wolaroi (1913) 40 13/12/4

Wolaroi was a champion 2yo and VRC Derby winner, whose final win as a 6yo was the Epsom under 9st 8lb.

Poitrel (1914) 37 15½½/3/3/

Gloaming (1915) 67 57/9/- Aust 14 9/5/-

Artilleryman (1916) 26 11½/4/3
Eurythmic (1916) 47 31/6/4

Eurythmic should be in the top 10 of any list of best 20th century Australian racehorses. Artilleryman, is the early 20th century Dulcify, what might have been

David (1917) 125 20/15/14

Furious (1918) 41 13/5/7
The Night Patrol (1918) 76 26/16/9 Aust 38 16/6/5

The mare Furious, was the champion 2 and 3yo of her generation but, very arguably, the imported Cox Plate winner, The Night Patrol, might have a superior overall record.

Whittier (1919) 52 17/16/3

Ballymena (1920) 26 11/3/5 Aust 10 3/2/2

NZ and AJC Derby winner, Ballymena, was the best of this year, the least distinguished of the 1920s

Heroic (1921) 51 21/11/4
Windbag (1921) 36 18/8/2

Both were champions, too hard to split. Windbag was placed in every one of his last 24 starts, all in principal races and against quality opposition. He won 14 of them including the Melbourne Cup. He’s largely forgotten today. Heroic was a middle-distance champion and lived up to to his name

Amounis (1922) 79 33/11/8
Manfred (1922) 28 11/5/2

Manfred’s barrier behaviour cost him several more victories. He was a sensational galloper but Amounis was a champion.

Gothic (1923) 30 13½/5/8
Limerick (1923) 59 28½/12/2 Aust 42 21½/5/2

Limerick is one of the now largely forgotten greats of the 1920s. Gothic was probably the best English import up to that time and his sprint and middle-distance record is exceptional. Limerick was generally regarded as his superior

Trivalve (1924) 20 8/3/5

Nightmarch (1925) 69 23½/18/11 Aust 31 8½/10/6

Phar Lap (1926) 51 37/3/2

Rogilla (1927) 73 21½½½½½/12/11

Chatham (1928) 45 23½/6½/1

Peter Pan (1929) 38 22½/6/1

Hall Mark (1930) 52 18½/16/9

Gay Blonde (1931) 17/8/7? Aust 4/4/2

After a decade of champions in the 1920s, 1931 produced some fine horses but none were outstanding. Gay Blonde won the NZ Derby and Oaks as well as good races in Australia such as the Mackinnon Stakes, but she was well short of champion status

Young Idea (1932) 70 15/11/13

Gold Rod (1933) 46 16/5/7
Talking (1933) 21 9/4/1

Gold Rod was the outstanding 2yo of his year and also won the Epsom and the Doncaster. He probably just eclipses dual Derby winner, Talking

Ajax (1934) 46 36/7/2

Defaulter (1935) 28 22/1/1 Aust 6 5/-/-

Beau Vite (1936) 60 31/9/5 Aust 37 18/5/3
High Caste (1936) 72 32½½½/19/7 Aust 68 29½½½/19/6
Reading (1936) 59 13/11/12 Aust 41 10/10/8

Beau Vite’s wins in the classics puts him marginally in front of the “Strawberry Bull”, High Caste, although both were champions. Some thought at the time that Reading was near their equal because of his clean sweep of the Australian 3yo classics and his near-even head-to-head record with both, although their longevity at the top makes a difference

Kindergarten (1937) 35 25/3/2½ Aust 1 -/-/½
Tranquil Star (1937) 111 23/20/12

Obviously if NZ form counted, it would be Kindergarten, but he had only the one start in Australia

Skipton (1938) 26 7/1½/1

Not a great year. Skipton is now remembered as the last 3yo winner of the Melbourne Cup. That success followed on from his VRC Derby win and preceded his only other top-class victory, in a division of the Caulfield Cup

Bernborough (1939) 38 26/2/1

Flight (1940) 65 24/19/9

Shannon (1941) 44 20/8/7 Aust 25 14/7/-

Columnist (1942) 53 17/9/8
Royal Gem (1942) 51 21½½/8/5

Royal Gem won the Futurity and the Newmarket as well as the Caulfield Cup. Columnist had an exceptional 5yo season. Neither was a champion.

Howe (1943) 15 wins Aust 5 2/1/-

1943 and 1944 had the most undistinguished gallopers of the 20th century. It would be interesting to know if there were fewer foals because of the War. Howe was a New Zealander who received a good horse’s weight of 9st 5lb in the Melbourne Cup, but he was far from a champion

Beau Gem (1944) 64 20/15/10?

A colt, Temeraire, could have gone on to be a champion or he could have ended up like some other briefly blazing stars. Beau Gem won the VRC Derby and 2 Underwood Stakes but little else of quality

Comic Court (1945) 54 28/11/3½

Comic Court was a champion. His duels with fellow 3yo, the near-champion, Carbon Copy, would have been worth going a long way to see

Delta (1946) 41 22/6/2

Carioca (1947) 44 20/7/9
Flying Halo (1947) 86 24/18/9

Neither was a champion. Flying Halo was a sprinter that could stretch to 10 furlongs, Carioca had a good Sydney record from his 5yo autumn onwards

Dalray (1948) 27 14/2/3 Aust 12 6/1/2
Hydrogen (1948) 60 26/8/9

Dalray won several good races in NZ and also the Melbourne Cup. Hydrogen had 3 great years and his record is often under-rated.

Rising Fast (1949) 68 24/16½/2 Aust 45 17 12/1

Redcraze (1950) 84 32/11/8 Aust 39 16/7/5

Somerset Fair (1951) 54 28/9/6 Aust 17 5/2/2

A prolific winner in NZ but he wasn’t a champion. He won some good stakes races in Australia such as the Chipping Norton

Sailor’s Guide (1952) 70 23/17/8 Aust 58 18/13/8

Monte Carlo (1953) 54 13/7/9 Aust 38 11/5/7 then USA 16 2/2/2

Dual Derby winner, Monte Carlo, is forgotten today but he was a quality racehorse, also winning the Mackinnon Stakes and the Metropolitan and placing 2nd in the 1958 Melbourne Cup.

Tulloch (1954) 53 36/12/4

Wiggle (1955) 55 20/9/7 Aust 26 14/4/2

Aquanita (1956) 70 28/10/9

Sky High (1957) 55 29/10/9

Sky High is an under-appreciated champion. His record was superior to fellow Hall-of-Famer, Wenona Girl, from the same year

Kilshery (1958) 35 12/7/3
Summer Fair (1958) 30 13/5/3

There was no outstanding racehorse from this year. Summer Fair won the AJC Derby, the Caulfield Cup and the Mackinnon Stakes amongst others, shading Kilshery’s sprinting achievements

Nicopolis (1959) 40 17/8/5

Another year without an outstanding horse. Coming out of WA, Nicopolis was the pick of a fairly average bunch with Bogan Road and Bore Head the next best

Time and Tide (1960) 45 20/5/5

Light Fingers (1961) 33 15/8/5

Galilee (1962) 36 18/6/4
Tobin Bronze (1962) 60 28/10/6 Aust 44 24/7/4

Both were champions, Galilee shading his fellow Hall-of-Famer, Tobin Bronze

Storm Queen (1963) 20 13/2/1

Champion 2yo, Storm Queen also won the George Adams and Lightning Stakes as a 3yo. The best of the others was probably General Command in a fairly average year

Rain Lover (1964) 46 17/10/7

Tails (1965) 79 23/9/5

There were some very good horses from that year such as Black Onyx, Rajah Sahib and Tauto but none were outstanding. Tails was probably the best of them

Daryl’s Joy (1966) 30 16/9/4 Aust 5 3/1/1
Vain (1966) 14 12/2/-

Vain was obviously the champion from this year. Daryl’s Joy had a great record in the USA as well as in NZ as a 2yo and in Victoria as a spring 3yo. Objectively, he’s not that far away from Vain

Gunsynd (1967) 54 29/6½/8

All Shot (1968) 77 21/14/11 Aust 71 19/13/11

Dayana (1969) 42 12/5/6
Sobar (1969) 20 6/2/2

Dayana’s 4 Derbies clinch it for him, but Sobar’s Caulfield Cup win was something else

Leilani (1970) 29 14/7/6

A very good year. Taj Rossi, Think Big and Tontonan would all probably make a top 100 of the 20th century, however Leilani’s record would eclipse them

Taras Bulba (1971) 53 13/9/3 Aust 40 12/8/3 then USA

Balmerino (1972) 46 22/11/2 Aust 12 6/3/-

Although he was competitive at G1 level overseas, Balmerino wasn’t outstanding in Australia. Still, his overall record would be superior to that of Lord Dudley and Maybe Mahal

Surround (1973) 28 16½/2/2

Luskin Star (1974) 17 13/3/-

Dulcify (1975) 21 10/3/2
Manikato (1975) 47 29/8/4½

Obviously Manikato was the champion from the 1975 lot but a full 4yo season for Dulcify might have changed this. Like Artilleryman, he could have been one of the absolute greats

Kingston Town (1976) 41 30/5/2

Sovereign Red (1977) 35 10/7/4

Rose of Kingston (1978) 26 10/4/5

Emancipation (1979) 28 19/1/-
Strawberry Road (1979) 45 17/7/7 Aust 26 13/3/3

Emancipation was a champion mare. The quality of her wins should shade Strawberry Road, an outstanding horse but short of champion status

Sir Dapper (1980) 18 13/4/-

Red Anchor (1981) 14 9/4/1

Bonecrusher (1982) 43 18/5/11 Aust 11 6/1/2

Vo Rogue (1983) 83 26/14/9

Super Impose (1984) 74 20/24/8

Better Loosen Up (1985) 45 17/9/3 Aust 44 16/9/3

Rough Habit (1986) 74 29/16/7 Aust 47 15/10/5
Shaftesbury Avenue (1986) 28 13/5/3 Aust 27 13/5/2

Either Rough Habit or Shaftesbury Avenue as both were outstanding although maybe Shaftesbury Avenue had the edge in class

Let’s Elope (1987) 26 11/-/5 Aust 13 8/-/1

Schillaci (1988) 36 16/5/5
Veandercross (1988) 40 15/9/4 Aust 19 6/4/1

Veandercross’ 4yo record could have been even better but for the infamous Caulfield Cup ride. All 15 of his wins were in his first 27 starts. He’s a bit underrated in Australia.

Jeune (1989) 42 10/10/7 Aust 24 5/7/2

This wasn’t a particularly strong year

Doriemus (1990) 44 9/8/4 Aust 41 7/8/4
Mahogany (1990) 43 19/7/5

Doriemus’ exploits in the Cups were enormous (a win and a second in both Caulfield and Melbourne Cups) but he had only one other G1.

Danewin (1991) 31 13/7/2 Aust 29 13/7/2

Octagonal (1992) 28 14/7/1
Saintly (1992) 23 10/8/3

Both champions and too hard to split

Might and Power (1993) 33 15/7/1

Tie the Knot (1994) 62 21/9/8

Sunline (1995) 48 32/9/3 Aust 35 21/9/2

Northerly (1996) 37 19/7/2

Ethereal (1997) 21 8/1/3 Aust 8 5/-/1
Fields of Omagh (1997) 45 13/8/7 Aust 42 13/8/7

But for his final Cox Plate, FOO wouldn’t be there. Ethereal’s BMW on top of her Cups double would probably put her as the best of her year

Lonhro (1998) 35 26/3/2

Makybe Diva (1999) 36 15/4/3 Aust 34 15/4/3

Elvstroem (2000) 32 10/4/5 Aust 26 9/3/4
Starcraft (2000) 22 11/3/4 Aust 14 7/2/3

Starcraft’s winning G1s in four different countries probably elevates him above the outstanding Elvstroem

Eremein (2001) 27 12/7/2
Miss Andretti (2001) 31 19/3/2 Aust 28 18/3/2

Eremein didn’t race in Melbourne to top off his fine record. Miss Andretti’s King’s Stand Stakes on top of her excellent Melbourne 2007 autumn gives her a superior record (although she didn’t race in Sydney)

Apache Cat (2002) 43 19/4/7 Aust 41 19/4/6

Efficient (2003) 29 7/1/-
Miss Finland (2003) 26 11/5/1

Neither was a champion. Efficient’s Derby/Cup double probably puts him ahead of the mare in a year without a real standout.

Scenic Blast (2004) 31 8/8/4 Aust 22 7/7/2
Weekend Hussler (2004) 21 12/1/-

Scenic Blast’s international success must help rank him very near Weekend Hussler if not above

Hay List (2005) 28 15/6/-
Typhoon Tracy (2005) 20 11/3/2

Hay List was an outstanding sprinter, Typhoon Tracy maybe just in his shadow

Black Caviar (2006) 25 25/-/- Aust 24 24/-/-
So You Think (2006) 23 14/4/1 Aust 12 8/2/1

So You Think has been the best male of the 21st century and a future Hall of Famer

Buffering (2007) 55 20/9/8 Aust 52 19/9/8

2007 wasn’t a strong year

Atlantic Jewel (2008) 11 10/1/-

A pity she wasn’t sound but still an impressive record

It’s a Dundeel (2009) 19 10/4/1 Aust 18 9/4/1
Pierro (2009) 14 11/2/-

Arguably, Pierro needed the Doncaster to be number one, so, even though Silent Achiever took the gloss off his final autumn, It’s a Dundeel

Chautauqua (2010) 32 13/7/4 Aust 31 12/7/4
Criterion (2010) 34 7/7/7 Aust 30 7/7/6

Chautauqua has been the best sprinter since Black Caviar and the Hong Kong win sealed his status

Winx (2011) 43 37/3/-

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« 2020-May-18, 07:50 AM Reply #1896 »

ARCHER

1856 bay horse
William Tell GB - Maid of the Oaks
Bred by TJ Roberts & RH Hassall
Exeter Farm, Jembaicumbene NSW
Leased by Etienne deMestre
Trained by Etienne deMestre

Date Course Race Dis Weight Sts
At Three Years
29May1860 Unp Randwick Tatt's Free Handicap 12f 7.5(47 kg) 14
31May1860 Unp Randwick AJC Randwick Plate 12f 7.11 7
At Four Years
6 Sept 1860 WON Randwick AJC Metropolitan Maiden Plate 14f u/k 6
8 Sep 1860 WON Randwick AJC Randwick Plate 12f 9 .5 (59.5kg) 2
25 Sep 1860 WON Windsor Hawkesbury Maiden Plate 14f u/k 5
27 Sep 1860 WON Windsor Stewards Purse 14f 9.4 (59kg) 2
2 May 1861 WON Randwick AJC Australian Plate 18f u/k
4 May 1861 WON Randwick AJC Randwick Plate 12f 8 .12 6
4 Jun 1861 WON Maitland Maitland Town Plate # 18f u/k 2
At Five Years
7 Nov1861 WON Flemington VRC Melbourne Cup 16f 9.7 (60.5 kg) 17
8 Nov1861 WON Flemington VRC Melbourne Town Plate 16f 9.13 (63.0 kg) 5
26 Apr1862 3rd Randwick AJC Grand Handicap 20f 10.0 (63.5 kg) 13
3 May 1862 WON Randwick AJC Queen’s Plate 24f 10.0 (63.5 kg) 6
At Six Years
1 Oct1862 3rd Geelong Australian Champion Swpsks 24f 10.1 (64.0 kg) 9
13Nov1862 WON Flemington VRC Melbourne Cup 16f 10.2(64.55kg) 20
15Nov1862 WON Flemington VRC All-Aged Stakes 8f 10 .4 (65.5 kg)
At Seven Years
1 Oct 1863 3rd Ballarat Australian Champion Swpsks 24f u/k 5
3 Nov1863 Scr Flemington Melbourne Cup 16f 11.4(72.0 kg)

Record reproduced from Wikipedia

Ridden by John Cutts in all starts except # Maitland Town Plate when ridden by Etienne DeMestre

Winner of the first two Melbourne Cups and the only horse to win successive Cups until Rain Lover 1968-9

He won the first cup by 6 lengths and the second by 8 lengths - a record winning margin only equalled by Rain Lover in 1968.

He carried 10st 2lb (64.5kg) in his second win which stood as the weight carrying record until Carbine in 1890.

In 1863 he was allocated 11.4 (71.5kg) and with every intention of running his nomination was refused by the VJC as it was delayed in the post due to a Victorian public holiday.

Died in 1872 from complications after eating green barley


Reading that Archer was going to run in the 1863 cup and got rubbed out I wonder why he never raced after that?

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« 2020-May-18, 10:05 PM Reply #1897 »
pwa

 Monte Carlo

I have a few books that cover most of his career with the following exceptions: (i) 1958-1959 in Australia.  I have cobbled his record from Trove relying on Canberra Times but maybe dodgy; (ii) I don't know whether he raced on as a 9YO in the USA.  Save for the foregoing this is how his career record looks to me. 

Australia
TWO YEARS:  1955-1956  Starts 4:  1-1-0-2
THREE YEARS:  1956-1957  Starts 12:  3-0-4-5
FOUR YEARS:  1957-1958  Starts 15:  5-2-1-7
FIVE YEARS:  1958-1959  Starts 7: 2-2-2-1
Australia Total: Starts 38: 11-5-7-15
USA
SIX YEARS:  1959  Starts 6: 1-0-1-4 (USD 26,812)
SEVEN YEARS:  1960  Starts 3: 1-1-0-1 (USD 3,800)
EIGHT YEARS:  1961  Starts 7: 0-1-1-5 (USD 1,750)
USA Total: Starts 16: 2-2-2-10
Worldwide Total: Starts 54: 13-7-9-25

As far as I know he only won one stakes race in the USA and that was the Sussex Turf Hcp  on 4 July 1959 at Delaware Park. 

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« 2020-May-19, 10:08 AM Reply #1898 »
Thanks Tim. You're right with Monte Carlo and thanks for correcting. I've amended it in the earlier post. Looking back, I had him an extra unplaced start at 4, misreading Miller's Guide.  I have no idea now where I got his US record from. If you see any other incorrect please let me know.

He had a pretty good career. His Melbourne Cup 2nd in 1958 carrying 60kg was impressive.

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« 2020-May-19, 10:20 AM Reply #1899 »
His Melbourne Cup 2nd in 1958 carrying 60kg was impressive.

Not impressive enough although I had him each way.


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