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Offline Gintara

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« 2022-Feb-14, 08:16 PM Reply #25 »
Outside of changing the way the sectionals are displayed nothing that I use has changed other than I now pay for it  :dry:

There's some random 'feed' from supposed experts, probably something right up Pete's alley but no use to me.  :shutup:

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« 2022-Feb-14, 09:12 PM Reply #26 »

Racenetiq --no one expects Racenet to account for overpromising and not delivering

Murdoch-men monopolists are inclined to use fanciful promises to distract attention from their real agenda ..... customers paying more for what was long available cheaper.

........... as 'fours' has said ............... this Racenetiq deception is a hoax characteristic of the murdoch media.

Does it make sense to subscribe --- it does for a month for $4.99 ........ only to get restored access to the Racenet form-guide.

The challenge is out there for competitors to present an extended form-guide, limited to racing in Sydney on Saturdays (and occasional Saturdays in Melbourne)

..... an opportunity for Nine Media to take the lead in serving most-punters.



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« 2022-Feb-14, 09:38 PM Reply #27 »
Iíve kept an open mind and, so far, Iím happy enough to keep using the basic / free form guide Ö. plenty of good information there, but needs some assistance along the way from other sources. Iím finding it ok to progress a fair way through the analysis.
>> I hate the ads though. I donít want their tips, their useless form comments or their news. I donít use blackbooks but I do use their scratching info

Overall, itís better than I expected

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« 2022-Feb-15, 09:07 AM Reply #28 »
That is one benefit of the IQ, it's much cleaner without all the adds.

From memory the comments are computer generated but I believe that will change  :chin:  :shrug:



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« 2022-Feb-16, 07:17 PM Reply #29 »


Racenet's integrity test

.............. the home of Australiaís most comprehensive & in depth racing analysis, insights and tips to give you a betting edge.

The 'edge' is at a cliff to fall off.

Will the dynamic-duo post tips for the Friday-night raffle-racing again this week ..... or do the right-thing and tell punters to stay well clear, as both should.

Mid-week metropolitan racing is similarly bereft of any reason to waste time on from guides.......... mid-week racing in Melbourne should now be the stuff of legend as a slow-learner-set is taken to the cleaners, almost without confident exception for years.

Joe-Friday's banco-squad should investigate Melbourne racing -- 'just-the-facts' would be indictable.


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« 2022-Feb-16, 08:09 PM Reply #30 »

HOLD YOUR FIRE ON A SUBSCRIPTION TO Racenetiq

Ö............ forget 'teething problems' while Racenet fine-tunes Racenetiq .. the problem is basic.

The best time-frame for a $4.99, one-month, trial subscription to Racenetiq is likely to be just-before 26 February until just-after 19 March.

As foreshadowed more clearly by others, Racenetiq is likely to be about as useful as most other 'tipping services'.

On my accounting, Monty's Top5, plus the associated form-guides and SMH tipping panels, offer the best media advice, albeit inside newspapers that cost about $9 for the both 'weekend' editions needed. You do get a paper as well.

The other guiding light here is the apparent determination of RVL to promote the 'rough racing' characteristic of the inflated-fields accepted to run. In general, avoid this punter-bait.

One hopes and prays RVL respects Blue Diamond Day .. 26 February Öand 3-more Saturdays.

The other guiding light is the general superiority of racing in Sydney on Saturdays.

Slipper Day .. 19 March Ö is usually one of the best punting days on the national calendar Ö....... and the lead-ups the best form.


Offline Peter Mair

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« 2022-Feb-17, 09:41 AM Reply #31 »

Racenet restores access to 'extended form'

It was disappointing last week when the 'form' available on Racenet itself was limited to the summary and only a couple of runs.

It is pleasing that access to the extended form has now been restored.

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« 2022-Feb-17, 09:53 AM Reply #32 »
Racenet restores access to 'extended form'

It was disappointing last week when the 'form' available on Racenet itself was limited to the summary and only a couple of runs.

It is pleasing that access to the extended form has now been restored.

Not for me, Peter. Looking at Warrnambool form right now - still locked

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« 2022-Feb-17, 10:04 AM Reply #33 »

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« 2022-Feb-17, 10:25 AM Reply #34 »


.......thre it was ........now it wasn't

Racenet restores access to 'extended form' [NO LONGER SO]

It was disappointing last week when the 'form' available on Racenet itself was limited to the summary and only a couple of runs.

It is pleasing that access to the extended form has now been restored.
[BACK TO DISAPPOINTMENT]

Someone may have forgotten to throw the lock-switch


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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2022-Feb-17, 10:31 AM Reply #35 »



.......thre it was ........now it wasn't..........THERE IT IS AGAIN

Wait for Racenet to decide it it is 'on again' or 'off again'

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« 2022-Feb-17, 05:43 PM Reply #36 »

Access still variable.. on/offat random

........... after 90 minutes of unrestricted acccess to 'form', Racenet threw the switch to 'off' at 18.30... keep looking for an open window.

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« 2022-Feb-18, 08:58 PM Reply #37 »


 Racenetiq's dynamic duo -- not a good night, again, Irene.


.................. the Tone and the Guest would best advise punters to hold their fire on Fridays.

The racing offered is not of the standard for anyone to bother doing the form or taking 'tips'.

Racenet is ultimately responsible for what 'goes to air' ...... any proper sense of responsibility to punters would see Racenet decline to condone this nonsense.

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« 2022-Feb-21, 07:44 PM Reply #38 »

Racenet censorship?


Racenet seems to be monitoring the drafting of posts to the forum.

...... another 'draft' has just not passed the 'sending' process.

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« 2022-Feb-22, 07:09 AM Reply #39 »
They always have Pete.

They are pretty precious with any criticism.


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« 2022-Feb-28, 06:37 PM Reply #40 »


RACING GODS 'TOO GENEROUS' -- HOW GOOD IS THIS RacenetIQ STORY?

                                      it will be hard to beat this one


Punters who followed our Racenet iQ experts over the weekend have been delivered a massive result ......... Mark Guest finding the $520,000 Big 6 at Caulfield on Blue Diamond Stakes day.

The six winners in the Big 6 were Lavish Girl (TF $21), Cascadian ($2.05), Sierra Sue ($14), Daumier ($20), Marabi ($2.60) and Defibrillate ($12) with the exact result returning $520,290.


The story is 'true' .............but unfairly blown up by a very Gusty wind.

The B6, a notoriously stupid bet option, had a total pool of only $45,000 yet VICTAB declared a 'dividend' (paid to no-one) more than 10 times the total pool.

The probability is that the $45,000 went to some 'syndicate' Ö.... but not one red-cent to the 'most punters' the story is intended to 'hook' into  Racenet iQ.

One can only hope that this story was not written by 'Gusty'.



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« 2022-Mar-02, 06:43 PM Reply #41 »



........... considering today at the 'down, Gusty might be appreciating the 'quality' of RVL's mid-week programming.

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« 2022-Mar-04, 02:03 PM Reply #42 »
Also based on 4 selections per race so 16,384 combinations and therefore just over 30/1 return.

Bit like the clowns on GetOn patting themselves on the back for finding a couple of odds-on winners from a full Saturday program.

Cheers.

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« 2022-Mar-04, 09:40 PM Reply #43 »



Gusy winds........an ill wind at the Vale as usual..

Tonight, at the-vale-of-tears,  the EQ paid some $70 ....  the Q 'paid' some $5,000.

The idea that Gusty was blown-away again is not surprising ......... the idea, that Gusty could make a silk-purse out of a Valley sows-ear, is the one that should be explored.

Even if 'contracted' to 'give-tips' on Friday meeting, Gusty should either refrain or counsel great caution about betting on such low-grade racing.

....................... are we expected to believe Gusty is credible on Saturdays

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« 2022-Mar-07, 06:33 PM Reply #44 »
The first question that I would like answered before I considered paying for tips (and really it's a rhetorical question as they would never answer it) is how long have Tipsters like the Brassel brothers, Laurie Sainsbury, Mark Guest etc been involved in punting?? the answer is obviously decades each (That's not the question)....and yet they are still working for a paycheck, WHY? that tells me that their tips fail more often than not, if they don't have enough faith in them to risk being able to make a living from them, why would anyone PAY for them? that is the question! it defies logic,

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« 2022-Mar-07, 07:51 PM Reply #45 »
Maybe Brassell does make a good living from his punting but just likes to do his tv gig and getting paid is a bonus.

Do we know if thatís not true.? Geez I look at multi millionaires who continue to work and wonder....Ē you have a bucket load of cash so whyĒ

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« 2022-Mar-07, 08:34 PM Reply #46 »
I think Guesty is OK for cash. Just his cut as manager for jmac would be nice

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« 2022-Mar-09, 08:25 AM Reply #47 »
You both missed my point, by giving away/selling your tips(it should be like insider trading) it cruels your own chances of getting the best odds, so by working for a paycheque you are actually earning less....if the tips were actually worth paying for that is?....unless of course you tipped one and backed something else, now that would make sense....I have seen their tips and they could never make a living out of them after they are published
I have been making a living out of it for a long time....and I would not even tell the (extended)family what I was doing, I would show them how to do it........but like all Punters, they are greedy and lazy, they want it handed to them on a platter
what most punters just don't get is backing winners and winning is NOT the same thing, even if my family backed the same horses as me they would probably lose, while I win, information isn't any good unless you know how to use it and get the most from it, tips are OK for recreational punters, it saves them from doing the work....but long term they will always lose

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« 2022-Mar-09, 08:54 AM Reply #48 »
Dave,

Nothing stopping them getting on the early prices then tipping them ( but they should acknowledge that those getting on late at shorter prices wont do as well and will probably lose as eg Tom Waterhouse always claims prices he got that hs clients never can ).

As for tips welcome to my world - i have to tell people what I do is complex and really does not involve individual horses so asking me for a tip is inappropriate given what I do.

Fours

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« 2022-Mar-09, 10:30 AM Reply #49 »
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