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Online Peter Mair

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O.P. « 2022-Feb-08, 02:41 PM »


Racenet IQ v. Punters IQ


…................. let the adventure begin ….......... will Racenet publicise the outcomes for subscribers?

Why become a Racenet iQ Member?

A Racenet iQ subscription provides members with access to the most comprehensive racing information and unrivaled intel that gives you an edge to betting (including access to Industry Experts and Pro Punters, a Comprehensive Form Guide, Settling and Closing Speedmaps, Blackbook and Expert Analysts in Real time). You can also access extensive news and analysis, covering Australian racing like no one else and less ads on the website and app than you would otherwise see when not logged in as a Racenet iQ Member. Plus, have all unlocked racing information including Form Guide, Racing Fields and Results all in the one place.


Racenet iQ Membership to be billed approximately monthly in advance: $4.99  for the first month, then  $19.99 per month. Renewals occur automatically unless cancelled in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. Each payment, once made, is non-refundable, subject to law. A valid active email address and Australian mobile phone number are required for account set up. Not in conjunction with any other offer. New customers only. Prices after the introductory pricing period may be varied in accordance with the full Terms and Conditions. ¹Racenet iQ gives you access to Racenet content with less advertising than you would otherwise see provided you log in to the website or app. **Calculated over the first 12 months …..........    for full details.

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Online Peter Mair

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« 2022-Feb-08, 03:09 PM Reply #1 »

Racenet iQ................. In for a month for sure


I suggest allowing Racenet iQ one weekend to settle, before putting up $4.99 next Thursday 17th February.

See how it goes for four Saturdays.

Depending .....the option is open to cancel on Sunday 13 March or pretty soon after.

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« 2022-Feb-08, 03:13 PM Reply #2 »
Peter,

Given your ignorance displayed on this forum the chances of anyone taking your advice is zero.

Wake up.

Fours

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« 2022-Feb-08, 04:04 PM Reply #3 »

Getting the timing right for a one-month trial


 ............ the second payment will be charged approximately 5 days prior to the start of the next billing cycle ...so, for the one-month trial, perhaps start on Friday 18 February to cover 5 days time to cancel (depending) before the next cycle starts on 18 March.

[ it seems 'fours' will not be taking this advice ... as may be appropriate, bring on schadenfreude]

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« 2022-Feb-08, 04:13 PM Reply #4 »
Peter,

Why would I pay for tips from those that show a loss on their tips.

Your idiocy goes on unabated.

Fours

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« 2022-Feb-08, 04:36 PM Reply #5 »


FORE! --- 'fours' misses the point.

The point is.

Racenet is offering a new form guide service 'on subscription'. There is 'free trial' for a $5 one-month subscription.

A big bet for Racenet -- its investment -- is not a big bet for the most-punter set.

Suck it and see -------- if it is good, stick with it.

The probability is that Racenet will be making an effort to get it off to a good start at a good time.

[Note: ... 'fours' asks about the ongoing unabated idiocy from the resident idiot on the forum

                         Why would I pay for tips from those that show a loss on their tips.

..........to which a sensible response is ante up $5 and check your expectation]


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« 2022-Feb-08, 04:57 PM Reply #6 »
  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

As I said ''únabated''.

Fours
ps I already know it will be a joke  the fact that you do not should worry you.

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:03 PM Reply #7 »
Peter,

Why would I pay for tips from those that show a loss on their tips.

Your idiocy goes on unabated.

Fours

Trouble is Fours that stuff is lumped in with the useful info.

I've no care for tips but stuff that I used regularly like the black book, the filters on the form, speed map etc are now behind the paywall  :huh:

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:12 PM Reply #8 »
Gintara,

Speed maps for free are available elsewhere.

How good they are is another ?

Could be better or worse. Don't know until you try. As Always the people compiling them and or the methods used may change over time and you are unlikely to be told - something great could be next to useless the next day....

Fours

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:17 PM Reply #9 »
Tony Brassel -- a Racenet iQ 'tipster'

Tony had a lash today:

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/tony-brassels-form-preview-for-hawkesbury-tuesday

I hold no one responsible for 'mid week' tips --- only for Sydney on Saturdays (and occasionally for Melbourne, on Saturdays, depending on what RVL is passing off as 'racing')

Tony Brassel has form as a 'tipster' over many years - Racenet should publish a guide to his form.


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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:22 PM Reply #10 »


Ready, fire, aim ---- the motto in the army of 'fours'



                                  There will probably be plenty to aim at in coming weeks.

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:28 PM Reply #11 »
Gintara,

Speed maps for free are available elsewhere.

How good they are is another ?

Could be better or worse. Don't know until you try. As Always the people compiling them and or the methods used may change over time and you are unlikely to be told - something great could be next to useless the next day....

Fours

Fours - I generally have it in my head before hand and like that I can adjust to my own thoughts. I'm also so used to the form layout that it's easy just having it in one spot  :shy:

Anyway I've subscribed (need to do HK tonight)  :/

I'll let you know the feedback when I start bombarding them with the mistakes  :whistle: after all now it's a paid service you'd expect no mistakes and anything rectified pronto right  :dry:   :lol:

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:32 PM Reply #12 »
Gintara,

Good luck with that.....

Meanwhile try other free speed map places  - maybe they are exactly the same as what you will pay for...

There was total outrage in Britain when they found out that the very cheap home brand baked beans were exactly the same as the 3 times dearer Heinz baked beans...

Fours
ps for HK what do you care anyway as regardless of the speed Purton will do the job ...... or his manager come form analyst... That's who I would like to have a chat with.
« Last Edit: 2022-Feb-08, 05:34 PM by fours »

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:39 PM Reply #13 »
Surprised you signed up Gintara.

What can you get from Racenet low IQ that you can't get from the Hong Kong racing website?

Murdoch has a pattern......eventually you will find that it will be very difficult to find someone to complain to.
You'll only be disappointed

Anyway who needs Tony Brassel when we have fours. :what:

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« 2022-Feb-08, 05:47 PM Reply #14 »
nemisis,

You are obviously happy with my laying service... beaten down old crocs still racing..

Your only job is to find the not quite so old and not quite so beaten down horses that still want to show the whipper snappers how it is done.

More than 90% of the time you can get away without checking!

You should pay me more!

Fours

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« 2022-Feb-08, 07:00 PM Reply #15 »
I have no interest in tipping comps fours.

I tried it....harder than it looks for sure.
It did my confidence....you like a couple, nominate one and the other one wins.

Tipsters many times don't even know the surface the horses will be racing on or a pattern.
How can they be relied on.....it's guess work.
What a shocker, the much heralded Tony Brassel today......strewth!

I used my boost today on Uniquely.....got $29.
Today I feel clever.


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« 2022-Feb-08, 07:19 PM Reply #16 »


Mark Guest is a Racenet iQ tipster 

The-Guest is having a lash at Sandown tomorrow.

                            Mark Guest’s best bets for Sandown Hillside Wednesday

Probably fortunately, The-Guest's tips are hidden behind the Racenet iQ pay-wall.

One can only wonder why anyone would put a reputation on the line when RVL has shown its determination to make fact-based form-guides irrelevant.

Hopefully some Racenet iQ subscriber will let us know how The-Guest fared on his first day in the spotlight.

Will he do better than Dean Lester?


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« 2022-Feb-08, 07:23 PM Reply #17 »
A feature I like with the TAB BB is that you click on the horse and it takes you straight to the race to bet :clap2:

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« 2022-Feb-08, 08:06 PM Reply #18 »
Surprised you signed up Gintara.

What can you get from Racenet low IQ that you can't get from the Hong Kong racing website?


Layout, starts at the distance / track etc. All things I can see at a glance with Racenet.


 
Gintara,



Meanwhile try other free speed map places  - maybe they are exactly the same as what you will pay for...


One piece of a large puzzle  :/

I'm far from happy about the whole thing but to maintain continuity I've signed up. If I'm not happy I'll start looking for alternatives  :bulb:

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« 2022-Feb-09, 10:21 PM Reply #19 »


Racenet has shut the door: what form guide alternatives?

The advent of Racenet iQ has shut the door on access to historical form.

The most-punter set will be wondering wherdoyagedit 'now'.

The appeal of the Racenet format has been its complementarity to Sportsman ....... now only the last couple of 'entries' are posted as the form guide.

Ideally 9Media will see an opportunity in making its excellent Friday SMH form guide 'available' in TAB agencies broadly.

A flush RNSW might come to the party in NSW for starters.

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« 2022-Feb-11, 09:23 PM Reply #20 »


Racenets reputation 'on the line'

My main point here is the failure of Racenet, in an era of benchmark-rated-racing, to show the actual 'rating' of races contested.

My main point here is the failure of Racenet, in an era of benchmark-rated-racing, to show the actual 'rating' of races contested.

What was thebenchmark- rating of these races:

Rosehill Gardens R5 30/10/2021 2000m Good3 ROSEHILL GOLD CUPTrue $750K

Aquis Park Gold Coast R4 15/01/2022 1300m Good3 $1M MM F&M 3YO&Up SW&P

Royal Randwick R5 17/10/2020 1200m Good4 THE KOSCIUSZKO True $1.3M

Rosehill Gardens R7 30/10/2021 1500m Good3 GOLDEN EAGLE True $7.5M


 Punters cannot do the form without a benchmark to base assessments.

.............. 'rating-obscure' races are now endemic in the programs for even the 'best' races ... let alone other 'sponsoted races'.


BACK TO TONITE!


Tonight was something of a disappointment for both  'The Tone' and The-Guest.

No one can be accoutable for what happens on a Friday at either Canterbury or the 'vale -of-tears'

At Canterbury the Q's paid $30k and $13k ............. at the Vale, $1.4 and $4.0k.

Why does Racenet allow this nonsense?

Why does Racenet -- and The Tone and The Guest --- not simply say this is 'raffle racing', way beyond the ken of any pretension to form analysis?

............. why do it ............ why pretend what is done is useful?

Stop it!

[.......needless to say ...........mainly useless tips from both 'freely ' available for tonight are now behind the paywall ... they do not even play open and fair]

Who will pay for these kids tips tomorrow?





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« 2022-Feb-11, 09:40 PM Reply #21 »
Peter,

You were told in advance it would be a joke.

Learn to do the form and such judgements, before the event, will get a lot easier for you.

Fours

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« 2022-Feb-13, 10:54 AM Reply #22 »


Racenet iQ --  serious business, no joke


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Why was it not so?

Racenet staked a claim -- the punters that went down the mine deserve some post-race commentary.

Accepting that 'what happens on Friday nights' routinely defies commonsense, Racenet would be doing a useful service to tell punters to stay well away from it.

The Racenet iQ performance yesterday was hardly likely to have come close to the quality performance of Monty and the other SMH form-guide tipsters.

Racenet iQ is not cheap for 'most punters' who sensibly limit their punting to Saturdays in Sydney (and very warily , in Melbourne).

The value of Racenet as a takeover target was built by punters .... and suddenly the rug is pulled by the murdoch-men taking a throttle hold on the national racing industry.

......... all the while extolling prospects for punters predictably at odds with reality.






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« 2022-Feb-13, 07:01 PM Reply #23 »


Racenetiq................... no 'performance' explanations so far

Are we buying a pig-in-a-poke?

The racenetiq site is misleading .... we know, and Racenet knows, about irresponsible 'promises' of ' .. new & exclusive features that will give you an edge' .

......... a cliff edge........ the first couple of days are illustrative.

As I see it the 'product' Racenet is now selling is continued access to a long freely-enjoyed form-guide extending beyond 'a basic version'

What has been served up in recent months has been well short of a proper product.

We know about newscorpse ..... murdoch-men 'buying the business' are not to be trusted.


https://www.racenet.com.au/racenetiq


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« 2022-Feb-13, 07:05 PM Reply #24 »
Hey Peter, grow a set, don’t buy it if you don’t want it.

Or, just keep pushing your wheel less barrow


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