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« 2016-Nov-09, 08:55 AM Reply #1025 »
A wide selection of whinges in this week's edition of the WW which we'll have to make last for there's a well deserved week's break coming up for the website owner John Lingard ....so no WW next week........the proposed transfer of the Doomben 10000 to Eagle Farm heads the column and there's no merit in this in the eyes of the writers ......it has to be the most stupid decision RQ has made or is thinking of making yet it appears the generally regarded astute chairman of the BRC Neville Bell thinks it an OK idea.......a couple of paragraphs from the second writer seems to suggest the bright spark who thought of this is the new boy.

As for his comment ‘the logic to move the race seems to be pretty good’ – well who’s logic is that – some backroom dumbo at RQ who has been involved in racing for five minutes and is being influenced by his ‘newfound friends’ over a glass of bubbly and back slapping in the inner-sanctum at the Farm?

I was relieved to read where new RQ CEO Dr Elliot Forbes has given an assurance that no decision on moving the 10,000 has been made. But answerable to a Board that might not understand racing traditions ahead of commercial decisions those opposed to the move have reason to fear the worst.’


But the most informative story is one lifted with permission from the SMH written by sports lawyer Darren Kane on the result his client suffered  in betting with BETHQ licensed in Norfolk Island which dudded his client out of his legitimate winnings and forced him to invoke legal action in an attempt to recoup his funds regretfully it appears the money has disappeared.


http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3445-wednesday-whinge-choosing-between-tradition-and-commercial-greed

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« 2016-Nov-16, 08:52 AM Reply #1026 »
In the absence of the usual WW link I wonder what if anything has transpired on the speculation raised in the column way back in August on a rumoured QRIC investigation into links between one or more bookies and some jockeys.

IS QRIC INVESTIGATING LINKS BETWEEN BOOKMAKERS & LEADING JOCKEYS?

LETSGOHORSERACING has unconfirmed but reliable reports that the new Queensland Racing Integrity Commission is investigating links between prominent bookmakers and leading jockeys.

The investigation initially targeted one specific bookmaker and up to five jockeys but this has apparently been expanded to include two other bookies – one in Sydney and another outside the mainstream racing area in Queensland.

There have been rumours circulating for years that a high profile bookmaker in the metropolitan area had several successful jockeys on his speed dial. But nothing was ever done about this.

Intelligence received by QRIC since it was established has apparently been sufficient to launch an investigation and there is even talk that this is being led by the top cops of the unit in conjunction with a former ‘gun investigator’ from interstate who was an expert at ‘fence jumping’.

With the powers available to QRIC they should be able to delve into telephone records of jockeys and bookmakers. We are reliably informed this could also include staff and associates of bookmakers and even where ‘burner mobiles’ were obtained.

If this ‘top secret’ investigation – which has been privately confirmed by a source close to the Integrity bunker – hauls in a big fish standby for the tenpins to drop and some ‘big names’ to be caught in the net.

We are also told that QRIC has been asked to delve into serious allegations involving links between a major stable and some high profile industry identities that occurred in the past. For legal reasons we cannot elaborate on this situation.

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« 2016-Nov-23, 08:05 AM Reply #1027 »
Quite an eclectic mix in this week's issue of the WW all worth reading with some suspicions surrounding an unidentified leading stable's efforts which it is claimed escape the attention of stewards.......and leading jockeys allegedly having a bet is under investigation which until now was supposedly secret.

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3446-wednesday-whinge-secret-probe-into-betting-activities-of-top-jockeys


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« 2016-Nov-30, 08:53 AM Reply #1028 »
http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3447-wednesday-whinge-patron-saint-of-oz-racing-needs-of-dose-of-integrity-reality

A reduced compilation this week some fire about the Townsville issues and the tipping expertise of Chris Waller and rumour and speculation about jockeys betting associating with professional punters.

Many years ago while in the workforce our accountant had a horse trained in Brisbane...it was  in another person's  name the real trainer was the jockey...this day a midweek meeting the jockey told the accountant not to bet the horse hadn't done well ....which he passed on to me...to our surprise  the horse won at a good price .....sometimes that happens horses aren't machines.... but the next morning the local paper carried a story that the horse had been heavily backed in Sydney ..the jockey rang the accountant and squared off but the little thief didn't fool anyone....he held out the owner and got away with it......nobody complained to the authorities and the jockey got away with it.

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« 2016-Dec-07, 07:03 AM Reply #1029 »
Fairly condensed version today .......with several opinions on Douglas Whyte's ride ...and relative penalties assuming he is penalised .....Townsville...with Brian Cox's penalty considered over the top........many years ago at Ipswich Trots Kanga Smith king hit steward John Hackett which is at the top end of serious..... Kanga got life...... but was eventually readmitted on an amnesty from HM the Queen's visit or some such notable event .

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3448-wednesday-whinge-will-stipes-be-as-lenient-in-wa-as-they-were-in-qld


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« 2017-Jan-11, 07:43 AM Reply #1031 »
Welcome back to the Wednesday Whinge which starts the New Year in Overdrive.......the MM $10M race day is subject to the usual scrutiny and we are reliably told that Gerry and the Pacemakers have a 50% subsidy deal from RQ which according to racing Minister The Hon. Grace.....(talking in effusive praise of all things RQ to radio star David Fowler on Monday)until she admitted that RQ has almost gone through the $30M deal with Tatts......and other stories of note how about media accreditation for the MM day taken out of QRIC's control and it's MM who approve or not who gets a Guernsey.....poor old Jim O'Sullivan makes a slip and his mole hill becomes a mountain.

  http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3451-wednesday-whinge-industry-foots-half-the-bill-for-millions-circus


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« 2017-Jan-11, 01:37 PM Reply #1032 »
hard to take the guy seriously when you can't understand the difference between a turf scribe and a blogger

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« 2017-Jan-11, 03:15 PM Reply #1033 »
Thought all this had been laid to rest long ago  :confused1:

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« 2017-Jan-12, 03:58 PM Reply #1034 »
  Just remember that the gentleman pilloried had lost his wife in this recent period.
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« 2017-Jan-18, 08:10 AM Reply #1035 »
The WW headline story this week is that Ian Brown a qualified solicitor has been appointed Acting Director of Integrity with QRIC the rumour has it that Jamie Dart who held the position before being stood down won't be returning but no official statement has been made.....no doubt the LNP will be keen to explore this matter when parliament resumes ....QRIC and RQ are subject to Right To Information access.

An insight into the refusal by RQ to give punters in QLD access to a level betting playing field as outlined by Richard Irvine on behalf of Fair Wagering Australia ....which on the face of it should be an embarrassment to the guvment but judging by the Minister's reaction in today's CM she isn't interested ...we'll see how long that attitude lasts once influence gets in the ears of those higher up the totem pole.

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3452-wednesday-whinge-mrs-brown-s-boy-does-a-bradbury-to-claim-top-role

Some views on the defection from the LNP to One Nation sums the situation up nicely:- 
"Instead of racing in Queensland finishing ‘a furlong in front’ of the major southern states as he predicted when Minister, we are falling further behind.
The ABC reported that Dickson's decision to join One Nation from the LNP means he has been transformed from a low-profile Opposition backbencher to a potential powerbroker in the Queensland Parliament and that whilst Pauline Hanson remains Party leader, it will be Dickson's job to lead the charge in the Sunshine State ahead of an election that could occur in 2017.
God help racing in Queensland if this dill returns to a position where he has any say on the fate of the industry. All of a sudden Grace Grace is starting to look like the genius she isn’t.’"

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« 2017-Jan-25, 09:34 AM Reply #1036 »
A lot of angst to get through today starting with the MM and the disappointment of the syndicate of owners who have been billed by RQ after their runners ran unplaced and they have to cough up the trainer's and jockey's percentages...plus other issues closer to home.....the hot and humid weather isn't helping either.

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3453-wednesday-whinge-industry-wants-answers-but-will-rq-rock-the-mm-boat


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« 2017-Feb-01, 09:01 AM Reply #1037 »
http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/index.php/wednesday-whinge2/3455-wednesday-whinge-search-for-dr-who-of-data-scientists-to-make-rq-best-of-best
RQ in the headlines again looking for a computer genius to drag them out of the mire adding to the massive remuneration account after all the recent executive positions which the new broom created.....and Terry Butts complaint about TTC is responded to by the new chairman ..who isn't too happy with Terrence.

But the best contribution IMO is from Pascoe Vale Victorian resident Stefan Meier who writes it's TIME FOR TRAINERS TO BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR BARRIER ROGUES’  well worth reading. :thumbsup:

The Toowoomba debacle he refers to was painful to watch.

And no Wednesday Whinge next week due to technical problems but from the week after there'll be a daily whinge not just on Wednesdays.

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« 2018-Jan-24, 07:46 AM Reply #1038 »
The Wednesday Whinge is back the decision to publish WW every day didn't score with me and I haven't bothered reposting any of the complaints until today as it's back to where it used to be whether it stays like this or we get a daily dose remains to be seen but for me once a week will be just fine.

Quite a lot to get through today some critical of stewards apparent indifference to issues which arise which you would think QRIC boss Rass Barnett would be interested in as for the non publication of Internal Reviews there's been nothing lately and contrary to the claim of transparency the IR haven't been available for the mandatory 6 months QRIC could learn from the RacingNSW case where decisions are there from way back.......this is the link and some stories I've selected to publish in full thanks to LGHR.

That's all from me the rest is from John Lingard's  LGHR :thumbsup:

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/




WEDNESDAY WHINGE – but have YOUR SAY on ANY DAY of the WEEK

JUST ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF HOW BAD QUEENSLAND STEWARDS ARE?

THE revelations of ARCHIE BUTTERFLY on his much-read website itsnotnormalist.com raises some serious questions about the competency of Queensland racing stewards.

Here is how one PROMINENT TRAINER summed up the situation and for obvious reasons he prefers not to be identified – who can blame him?

‘IF I presented a horse to start in a race and forgot to put an important item of gear on him or her (such as blinkers) the stewards would throw the book at me.

They forget to include in a Stewards’ Report from the Sunshine Coast that a horse clipped the heels of another runner and fell, badly injuring its jockey and then add that important information more than two weeks later.

Not only were they arguably incompetent for failing to report this fall at the outset but what they did after Archie Butterfly alerted QRIC to the situation is not only deceitful on the part of the stewards but how the Commissioner could allow this disgusting abuse of integrity powers is beyond belief.

Imagine a trainer or a stablehand running into the enclosure as the horses were parading for a race and adding blinkers that had not been fitted or even worse still – in comparison to the stewards reporting of the race – they waited until the runners returned to scale and added the blinkers then. It’s just an absolute farce.

What makes matters worse is that Archie Butterfly tried to contact Chief Steward Allan Reardon on more than one occasion but was told he was on sick leave. He has subsequently learnt that Reardon still took calls from industry stakeholders on the day. No doubt had one of those calls been from his mates in the mainstream racing media he would have answered – no chance of any criticism there or of those weak kneed morons doing their jobs in the interests of the punting and racing public!

Reardon should never have been re-employed by Racing Queensland. Blame for that rests squarely at the feet of former RQ chairman Kevin Dixon who I am told was convinced by key identities who he confided in to steer clear of Terry Bailey. The story goes there was a strong move to shut the no-nonsense RV Chief Steward, who was considering a surprise move, out of Queensland because of a feeling he would have been too tough on certain people in the training and riding ranks who some believe are ‘protected species’. One would hope this is no more than the racecourse rumor mill in overdrive.

Nevertheless, Reardon has proved a rank failure since his return to Queensland and particularly after his reappointment as Chief Steward in the wake of a couple of high profile dismissals or should we call them departures. He and his panel are the laughing stock of Australian racing more often than not – just look at their slap on the hand penalty for the jockey who bowled the field over at the start of the Magic Millions Classic.

This situation involving the failure of stewards to even report a horse that fell whose jockey broke his back. How bad does it have to get to warrant a mention? Or are the stewards only competent enough to report on horses that are slow away (plenty of those in Queensland especially among the favorites) or race wide or strike some trouble that is easy to pick up from the replay. Worse still is that their apparent incompetence seems to be condoned by the hierarchy at QRIC.

What is going on at the station Commissioner Barnett – are you asleep at the wheel as much as old Al or will you have the balls not to renew his contract when it comes up mid-year? If you don’t there is no hope for racing in Queensland!

 

BRISBANE RACING AGAIN DEGENERATING INTO A FARCE FOR PUNTERS’

PERCY the PUNTER and his MATES have their say on BRISBANE RACING and it isn’t complimentary of the STEWARDS:

‘MY mates and I are keen punters and we wrote to the WHINGE some time ago telling our story about how we had decided to ban betting on Brisbane racing because we felt it was ‘too hot’.

Well we had a rethink and with the Magic Millions coming made a New Year resolution to try again. Sadly that lasted only a few weeks.

We were pretty pissed about the Magic Millions and how the stewards basically gave that jockey a slap on the wrist for knocking more than half the field down.

The real reason for our disappointment though was that we had backed the runner-up Fullazaboot at its previous start only to see it slaughtered and little was said about the ride where a top jockey missed the start and sat wide in a weaker race.

We then had to watch while the horse we backed in the Millions all but got put through the rails and here was Fullazaboot storming home for second at huge odds. Makes you wonder how far he should have won his previous start by.

Some of the group was a bit forgiving after that and we pressed on with our punting syndicate until last Saturday which was the final straw. We were on the perennial bridesmaid Slydini only to see it get beaten by form reversal winner First Crush.

We were on this horse at its previous start at the Gold Coast when it went like a mule. Out it comes improves a furlong and beats a far better field. Of course trainer Chris Munce was bewildered by the form turnaround just as he was with a stable middle distance runner that got beaten out of sight in a weaker race at Ipswich then came out and won at big odds in town a few weeks back. The difference this time was that they didn’t forget to back First Crush.

What got right up our noses was the way the racing media helped brush this whole form reversal under the carpet. Instead of starting his interview with Munce on SKY with a question about the massive improvement of First Crush, Michael Maxworthy only wanted to talk about how well Larry Cassidy was riding. Munce, sensing some reaction to the form reversal even considering the lack of action ever taken by the blind men with the cane in the room, was quickly on the defensive. The horse had shocked him how badly it went at the Gold Coast. Its two previous runs were terrific and he freshened it up. The stewards, of course, swallowed that excuse – as they always do when one of the ‘pet shop boys’ is in the ‘hot seat’  – like Tony Gollan after his abuse of a jockey manager later in the day – and send them on their way with apologies for disturbing their day.

The hard-hitting Nathan Exelby (of The Courier & Sunday Mail) wasn’t to be outdone in a nice ‘suck up’ to Munce after Expertea won the middle distance race which many thought had a bit of a smell about it. In that report on a stable double he declared: ‘Punters were on the ball backing First Crush from morning odds of $26 to start at $11.’ Those supposed ‘punters’ had to be stable inspired. No-one who did the form could have backed First Crush with that sort of confidence. And we noticed that ‘form expert’ Nathan didn’t include it in his specials which as usual were pretty ordinary.

And on the subject of the Expertea race it firmed from an early Fixed Odds quote of $8 to $4.6. The original short priced favorite Kirini settled much further back from a wide draw than it did at its previous start and ended up blowing like a gale to $4.8 before running on moderately to finish fourth. Perhaps it’s a coincidence but have you noticed the number of favorites top jockey Michael Cahill gets beaten on? I guess you can’t help bad luck. And by the way the Waller-trained stablemate of Kirini – Mazaz – came from 12th to finish 2nd to Expertea and there was backing for it at big odds. Might I suggest stewards should have opened an inquiry into this race – but as usual they didn’t which comes as no surprise.

Another Waller-trained, Cahill ridden favorite in Iowa failed to reproduce its good recent form and never got any closer than eighth to form reversal winner Contralto. Iowa incidentally drifted from $2.6 to $4.4 – someone thought it couldn’t win.

The only short priced favorite to win on the nine-race card was Desmon’s Pride. Three of the winners were at double figure odds. The punters must be awful judges in Brisbane. Either that or we desperately need a new panel of stewards. My mates and I won’t be back betting on Brisbane until the latter applies – so that probably means never.’               

 

                 
INDUSTRY WANTS ANSWERS FROM QRIC ON INTERNAL REVIEW CHANGES

MICHAEL G sent this interesting email about internal review decision at QRIC:

‘AS a keen observer of racing, I am interested as to why the apparent current practice by QRIC to (a) not inform industry participants of those decisions for which an application for an internal review has been made or (b) no longer publish the outcomes of internal reviews on its website, and the reasons for this change of tact.  The last updates appear to have been published back in November?

I mention this for two reasons.

Firstly, it appears contrary to QRIC's own proclamation, and not in the industry's best interests in that internal reviews, if they still occur, is not presently a transparent process.

Publishing of QRIC internal review decisions

The Queensland Racing Integrity Commission has modified the publishing sequence of internal review decisions following a consideration of the legal processes involved.

The internal review decision summary outcome (i.e. original decision affirmed, or original decision amended and substituted with x penalty or original decision overturned no penalty imposed) will still be published on our website as soon as the decision is handed down and the applicant will still be provided with the full decision immediately as occurs now.

The full decision will now be published on the QRIC website after the applicant has either accepted the decision or exhausted any legal appeal options. If the applicant does not appeal the decision to the Queensland Civil and Administrative Tribunal, the complete review decision will be published after the expiration of the 28 day appeal period.

In the interests of transparency, high level information about internal review decisions will be published after an internal review is finalised. Internal review decisions will remain on the QRIC website for a period of six months.

Secondly, I would have thought such information greatly benefits the industry through the education of participants as well as the public gaining confidence in decision making.  It would also provide the added benefit of stifling unhelpful debate and unnecessary innuendo.

On the other hand has QRIC concerns the process of internal reviews is procedurally unsafe?

Either way, I suggest QRIC should inform the industry, it was created to serve.’

EDITOR’S NOTE: We would welcome a response from QRIC but previous requests for replies to contentious issues have been greeted with brick walls.

 

‘WHEN WILL THEY STRIP THESE ‘ :censored:  OF THEIR MEDIA PASSES?’

KLAUS FUCHS of GOLD COAST writes:

‘LET me assure you that many in the industry have been aware for some time about illegal transmission of information to a major punting organization from restricted areas on Queensland racecourses.

Those involved allegedly have ‘media passes’ which allow them access to areas that isn’t available to run of the mill punters or the racing public in general.

This has been going on for so long that the stewards (and the Queensland Racing Integrity Commission) have to be aware of it. Now it comes as no surprise that the stewards, under the chairmanship of ‘old King Cole’ Reardon, are sitting on their hands. But what are the QRIC coppers doing? We keep hearing about how they are weeding out the crooks. Well here’s a situation where they don’t appear to be.

One also has to question if the mainstream racing media has been turning a blind eye to this because it involves some of their own members. Surely this doesn’t hark back to the ‘wall of silence’ that occurred when the Maggot and his mates were reportedly running prices and bets for big name crims in the south?

How much longer is this going to be allowed to occur before someone is stripped of their media credentials? One particular photographer does little to no work at the races but is there every meeting working like a demon snapping shots of almost every runner. Seems like a waste of time unless he has an ulterior motive.

If the stories doing the rounds about the involvement of a couple of other high profile players – a closely related duo – in all of this is right, then there’s no hope for racing in Queensland.

It wasn’t that long ago we had reports of a former star footballer working for a major Sydney punter running alongside the enclosure fence at race meetings in south-east Queensland for all to see and talking to jockeys on their way to the barriers. The Chief Steward of the day (no longer with RQ) knew what was going and is said to have even known the messenger involved.   

Just when you thought the major rorts were restricted to the red hots, apparently they are thriving at the gallops. Yet every time a code gets a kick in the guts it’s the greyhounds. How coincidental is that?

And on the subject of harness racing – when will the appeal be heard involving trainer Grant Dixon? One imagines after he uses a stay of proceedings to campaign King Kev’s top hope in the Victorian Derby. What an absolute joke!’

 

DUAL BIRTHDAY BASH AT CREEK AS THE ODD COUPLE TURN 60

WE’VE received a couple of ‘mischief-making’ emails concerning a double birthday celebration this weekend and seeing it’s the Australia Day long weekend we thought running this one (from a subscriber who says his on the outer with both who were once his mates) was worth publishing:

‘ARE you aware of the big birthday bash at the Brekky Creek this weekend?

It will be a who’s who of the industry in attendance when a top trainer and former high profile RQ figure link arms to celebrate turning 60.

One wag has suggested that after rubbing shoulders with some of the invited guests he will need to hurry home and disinfect himself.

In any case if you didn’t get an invite – like some of those who were mates of one but enemies of the other – you could always just turn up at the Creek and crash the party of this odd couple.’

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« 2018-Jan-26, 02:06 AM Reply #1039 »


We were pretty pissed about the Magic Millions and how the stewards basically gave that jockey a slap on the wrist for knocking more than half the field down.

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I thought the penalty handed out was solely inadequate.

In Harness Racing, the horse would have been disqualified and I reckon that was justifiable for what was the second worst hatchet job I've seen done.

Hypothesize for a moment if Ef Troop would have won the race. How would that have looked with him knocking out one of his chief opponents?

It means next year jockeys will think there are small penalties for creaming your opponents and it is worth their while to ride dangerously.

A very poor look for what has become one of Australia's major race days  emthdown

(I backed Ef Troop at $11 a few weeks back so not talking through my kick).

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« 2018-Jan-31, 09:03 AM Reply #1040 »
Lots of comments in support of blogger Archie Butterfly and his alleged mistreatment after his arrest.....  held in cells for over 5 hours without food or drink and he's a diabetic could have lapsed into a diabetic coma ...claims  not being told of the specifics of the stalking charge laid agin him ...although that’s not the case now as he  has admitted  that he is restricted from being able to disclose the identity of the stalkee...so the charges are on record as they would be .....I .haven't read his blog since he launched into a vitriolic attack threatening  my good self after an off the cuff comment pointing out that it's a criminal offence to use a carriage service to threaten or menace...this related to the Grant Stockwell issue....after Stockwell wrote a piece on the state of play at Eagle Farm  ..which caused AB to take serious issue that it was his story...he called Stockwell out......this resulted in an exchange of profanities ....and a missile hurled at Archie’s home.......suspecting the culprit to be Stockwell..... Archie went looking for the bottle hurler and on his blog  he also disclosed a supposedly confidential Police brief  and the criminal history record of Stockwell who had been done for domestic violence so this is probably the issue which landed him in his current predicament.

This is an excerpt from post 92 on the Harness  Race Fixing Charges which support my  theory that it’s the Stockwell case.
“It will be interesting to see whether The Courier-Mail stands by their freelance racing writer Grant Stockwell who is in more shit than a Werribee duck at present. Will his good mate Racing Nathan’ rush back from a holiday junket to protect him? Not likely! And what about all the good men in the Racing Media Association? They say you can’t chose your relatives but you can chose your friends. Plenty of bad choices made over the years guys – what do you reckon? At the end of the day there needs to be some official announcement from QRIC or RQ on whether the racing media credentials of Mr Stockwell are still intact and whether the police are going to investigate the allegations made by a prominent racing lady and her family against him that seem to have been duck-shoved around by the coppers for far too long.”

And my comment which caused Archie to go off his brain:-
www.lghr.com........................Plenty of flak coming out of this one....the blog referred to contains threats against Grant Stockwell  ( it's a criminal offence to use a carriage service to threaten or menace) the dispute which started out as a personal injury to one's pride has turned into a full scale assault and isn't pleasant reading.  ”

The gofundme campaign(which is a good little earner .....takes a cut off the top but less than the TAB)  aims for$40K has attracted a lot of support ..some of those  who kicked in I know well...... and there are other anonymous donors  one in particular too frightened in case his identity is revealed  or his missus finds out .....who reckons Archie is being bagging unmercilessly on forums and blog sites ...none of which I’ve seen ......others kicking in small amounts  appear to be having a dig using apparent fake identities for people he has targetted like “Clip Clop” & “the bantam “ and some  other well known names who have themselves been in the news for various reasons.

It's all here in LGHR as well as some other issues in the Wednesday Whinge.

http://www.letsgohorseracing.com.au/


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« 2018-Feb-01, 10:03 AM Reply #1041 »
RESPONSE FROM QRIC TO QUESTIONS FROM LGHR CONTRIBUTORS

THE Queensland Racing Integrity Commission has reassured concerned industry stakeholders that they are aware of allegations that information is being illegally transferred from racetracks to a major gambling syndicate.

Letsgohorseracing sent a series of questions to QRIC Commissioner Ross Barnett who referred these to Director of Licensing and Stewarding Ali Wade. We thank them on behalf of our readers for their prompt response and transparency on this issue.

Readers have asked LGHR to try and get some answers from QRIC about a number of issues.

The first question they wanted us to ask was: ‘Are you aware of the alleged activities on Queensland TAB tracks of associates of one of Australia’s biggest punters and allegations that they are transmitting information to him illegally?’

QRIC replied: “We are aware of the individuals (being) named and many others that actively participate in racing. We are not in a position to comment on any investigation on ongoing monitoring activities which will continue to increase with the assistance of the Queensland Racing Crime Squad and recently established intelligence unit within QRIC.”

LGHR question: “If so, what is being done to curtail this activitiy and more so has a photographer been called upon to show cause why his media credentials should not be removed?”

QRIC reply: “Any accreditation of Media is a matter for Racing Queensland.”

LGHR question: “Have any instruction been received from Racing Queensland that stewards cannot take action against these people because of the turnover (this gambling syndicate) is responsible for on the Queensland TAB (UBET). That is the scuttlebutt doing the rounds.

QRIC reply: “No.”

A QRIC spokesman added: “One of the challenges we face is monitoring information that is open to the general public on an immediate international platform through the use of many different telecommunication devices to when it may cross over into more nefarious activities that may either be a breach of the Rules of Racing or potentially illegal activity.

“We monitor and will continue to monitor licensees online activities in racing, specifically jockeys and remind every that should they know of or encounter any suspicious activities please report to CRIMESTOPPERS.”

ON behalf of readers we also expressed concerns to RQ over the Media Accreditation held by two individuals. RQ came back to us late in the day and we will publish their response and our thoughts on this in an upcoming Whinge.ENDS

Another question that another reader previously asked  but was overlooked apparently  where are the Internal Review Decisions...nothing since September and those that were up were removed before the stated time frame of 6 months. :beer: 

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« 2018-Feb-07, 09:19 AM Reply #1042 »
The Wednesday Whinge this week puts the spotlight on the appalling tipping performance of champion trainer Darren Weir whose opinions on the chances of his runners last week came up with zero.......... his best bets ran down the lane and another he didn't think was ready stormed home at good odds ...plus other tipster issues and no glory for the new Ladbrokes Form Guides in the Courier Mail which isn't up to scratch.

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« 2018-Feb-14, 09:22 AM Reply #1043 »
Not a lot in this week's issue of The Wednesday Whinge......only local issue is the promised sectional times story.
I went looking for the Internal reviews on the QRIC website there's nothing to show ...last updated 11th Jan so I contacted Media person Jason Rawlings to ask if he could get it up and running especially the Archives which have also disappeared..so that's my only whinge for the day..here's what the punters think on LGHR.

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« 2018-Feb-21, 09:37 AM Reply #1044 »
Nothing startling in this week's issue of the Wednesday Whinge ... some contributors commenting on the return of Archie Butterfly and his recently opened new blog one doesn't want to be identified due to his "connection" to "the boys in blue" expressing an opinion .....other issues  include the progress  of Eagle Farm track ...Brisbane racing performances escape scrutiny........the SKY preference to last race in Newcastle over metro Doomben  .....who is the moron that agreed to this upside down deal ......

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WE received several emails concerning the return of ARCHIE BUTTERLY with his new-look website, www.jeebung.com. Several could not be used because contributors have verbally attacked and named the person they refer to as the ‘alleged victim’ in his stalking case. Under the law, www.letsgohorseracing.comcould be guilty of contempt if identification is made. Please be aware of this.

Here are the ‘whinges’ we have chosen to publish:

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« 2018-Feb-28, 09:02 AM Reply #1045 »
Plenty of fire in this weeks' issue of the Wednesday Whinge...some pretty close to home too.....well worth a read even if you don't necessarily agree with some of the comments and opinions......and beware of making defamatory statements they won't get past the editor.


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PLEASE BE AWARE OF DEFAMATION LAWS WHEN HAVING A WHINGE
ONCE again we ask that contributors remain aware of the laws of libel when having a WHINGE. We received a couple of late emails concerning the fines imposed on top trainers MARK KAVANAGH and DANNY O’BRIEN when VCAT delivered its decision on penalty in the long running case on Tuesday.

LETSGOHORSERACING is not interested in publishing comments that could be construed as contempt of the decision handed down by Justice Guard.

Regardless of how any of us feel about this case or the roles played by O’Brien and Kavanagh, VCAT overturned bans imposed on the pair then the Court of Appeal agreed they should be penalized BUT THAT NEITHER HAD KNOWLEDGE OF ADMINISTRATION.

Dr Tom Brennan, the vet who attended both trainers’ Flemington stables, was found to have administered a drip containing illegal levels of cobalt without their knowledge.
As hard as that might be to accept or, it seems, for some industry stakeholders and followers to believe, THAT WAS THE RULING. If  some of you want to comment on what Kavanagh or O’Brien might or might not have done then take it to one of those fly-by-the-pants blogs who are prepared to ignore the defamation laws. We give contributors a pretty good run at LGHR but this is the ruling of the courts and it needs to be respected.

In an aside there are strong stories circulating that a lady trainer in Queensland will (or has) been charged over allegations that she treated a horse with a ‘milkshake’ . Not a good time to be facing an inquiry relating to an offence like this.

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« 2018-Mar-07, 09:25 AM Reply #1046 »
Not a lot this week to get the pulses racing...a suggestion there was  possibly a hidden agenda in QRIC officials conferencing with RV officials into the Aquanita allegations... there might be more than Birchley's alleged involvement...the Ipswich greyhound substitution.....a free kick at David Fowler..undeserved IMO.....Eagle Farm again...and some others..finishing with a rather long winded  questionnaire to Racing Minister Stirling Hinchcliffe which if he ever reads it he'll need a dose of Panadol and a quiet lie down on the ministerial couch.  :biggrin:

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« 2018-Mar-14, 08:29 AM Reply #1047 »
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The WW starts off with an on the ball comment/opinion raising some legitimate questions about the residential development adjacent to EF currently under construction......there's a  glut of units in Brisbane .....vacancies all around the city not just in outer suburbs....the question is will Nifty respond he's had his fingers burned before. :o

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QUESTIONS ASKED OF BRC ON EAGLE FARM UNIT DEVELOPMENT 
‘AS a keen INDUSTRY OBSERVER and a RACE CLUB MEMBER in Brisbane for more years than I can recall, the current situation involving the redevelopment of Eagle Farm has me gob-smacked.

Enough has been reported on the track fiasco to convince most of us that both Racing Queensland and the Brisbane Racing Club have mismanaged the situation very badly.

What I am concerned about is that the BRC are more interested in the $100 million residential development on the home turn at Eagle Farm involving over 200 units in two residential towers than they are in getting the track to a state where racing can resume.

Recent reports through the Real Estate Industry highlight the pressure on unit developments and subsequent sale of the completed projects.

One high profile property commentator was quote by news.com.au as warning that Brisbane’s oversupplied apartment market and parts of south-east Queensland’s housing sector are headed for a ‘bloodbath’ in 2018.

ABC.net.au quotes property experts as declaring that an inner-Brisbane unit glut has seen prices slump to their lowest in three years with a recovery not expected for at least 12 months.

This is my understanding of the current unit market:
•   Currently there are in excess of 1,000 units for sale in the Brisbane area
•   A recently completed development saw some of ‘off the plan’ buyers relinquish their deposit (10% of purchase price) rather than proceed to settlement on the unit.
•   We understand this forfeiture was due to the lack of unit demand and an overall reduction in unit value.

I watched Chairman Neville Bell on the Channel Seven News extolling the value proposition of the BRC Unit development which would indicate that the project is at or near completion.

For the purpose of transparency (now that is a new word for the BRC Board’s vocabulary), would Chairman Bell provide the following details to keep club members informed:
•   Anticipated Completion Date
•   Number of Units in the development
•   Number of units sold off the plan
•   Number of deposits forfeited by ‘off the plan’ buyers
•   Number of units which will proceed to full settlement
•   Number of units which remain unsold
•   Cost of the development, including all costs (i.e. borrowing costs, interest development and selling costs)
•   What is the monthly holding cost for this project?
•   Gross sales achieved in dollar terms
•   Bottom line profit or loss of the project
If, as suggested, this project is a ‘winner’ for the BRC, then I would expect a bullet like response from Chairman Bell.
On the other hand none of us will be holding our breath.
I look forward to Chairman Bell’s open and transparent answers to the above.’
EDITOR’S NOTE: WE would welcome a response from the BRC Board, CEO or Chairman on this issue and offer unedited right of reply to the above questions which certainly need to be answered.
 
‘HOW CAN GOODIE HELP WHEN HE COULDN’T GET FLEMINGTON RIGHT’?
MAX SEXTON of GOLD COAST sent this email:
‘RACING QUEENSLAND has to be kidding enlisting the support of sacked Flemington curator Mick Goodie to try and fix the problems confronting the new Eagle Farm track.

Correct me if I am wrong but wasn’t Goodie responsible for the presentation of some disgraceful tracks that caused massive embarrassment during recent major carnivals, including the Melbourne Cup two years ago.

It seems RQ – and the BRC who are keen to lay the blame on the shoulders of the control body for anything that goes wrong at the Farm these days – are grasping at straws asking Goodie to try and right the many wrongs that confront officials trying to return racing to Brisbane’s leading track.

Four years since this disaster started and the rebuild has taken another turn for the worse with Dalton Consulting Engineers walking away from the project after voicing a number of concerns over the duration of the rebuild and differences of opinion with RQ.

DCE executive chairman Shane Dalton indicated to The Courier-Mail that this was the first time the company had taken this type of action in its 22 years of operation.
To most industry observers getting Mick Goodie to inspect the project is simply stumbling from one disaster to another.

And to add insult to injury we learn that the BRC is considering whether it is possible to hold some race meetings on the A grass at Eagle Farm which is the size of a bicycle track.

Their reasoning that this would enable use of the currently dormant Eagle Farm facilities and get punters back to the idea of racing at Eagle Farm is downright laughable.

The problem, of course, is that the A grass could only accommodate fields of eight or nine because of where the starting stalls need to be placed which would mean only secondary meetings could be held there.

It has taken four years for this disaster to unfold and the word incompetence rings loudly in the ears of all racing industry stakeholders and followers.

Respected identity Peter Bredhauer reported last week how the new Doomben course proper was reconstructed in only 13 weeks back in 1996 and it came in on a budget under $4 million.

The Eagle Farm rebuild has cost the industry tens of millions and it’s still not right. Can one assume from the tone of the articles being written by ‘media mates’ of the BRC that there might be a civil action taken on behalf of the club against RQ?

Bredhauer got it right when he wrote: ‘Surely the time has come for the Racing Minister ‘Pounds Sterling’ to step in and hunt both the Board of the Brisbane Racing Club and Racing Queensland straight out the front door and appoint some people who actually know what they are doing.’
 
‘VICTORIANS DIVERTING ATTENTION AWAY FROM FLEMINGTON BIAS’? 
OSCAR JACKSON of BRISBANE writes:
‘THOSE of us from around the country who tune in weekly to the RSN Sunday morning wrap of the races of the day before were wondering why they sorted out the Eagle Farm track debacle for special attention.

Could it possibly have been designed to divert criticism away from a Flemington track that was a disgrace on Super Saturday?

No sooner had Mick Goodie been punted as track curator than his replacement Liam O’Keefe wound up with a can of worms with everyone from owners, to jockeys and trainers – not to mention the punters – squealing track bias.

Horses nailed to the fence at last Saturday’s meeting had an unfair advantage while those attempting to come from back in the field and travel wide faced an impossible task.

If a jockey fails to give his horse every opportunity to win a race he can be charged. What happens to those who prepare a track that fails to give every horse the chance to win? Answer: Next to nothing!

The big losers of course are the connections of those starters who could not find the fast lane and the poor old punters who tried to follow the form of others drawn to travel back or wide.

It’s impossible to deny that Saturday’s track at Flemington did not have a fast lane near the inside when winners Kings Will Dream (Race 2), King’s Command (R3), Not a Single Cent (R4), Bella Martini (R5), Spanish Reef (R7), Harlem (R8) and She’s So High (R9) all travelled on the fence or one-off in the straight.

Peter Moody, guest commentator for racing.com summed up the situation when he said: “We've seen horses come two and three deep and they just hit brick walls.”

Moody had the right idea when he suggested: “They should concrete the running rail to the one spot so it cannot be moved and let the jockeys find the best ground.
Until they do something like that it is never going to be a level playing field.’
 
NQ JOCKEY SEEKS $750,000 IN DAMAGES OVER HOME HILL FALL 
SAFETY aspect at some country tracks in Queensland has been an area of concern for some time.

Here’s a story by TERRY BUTTS from the NQ REGISTER of a situation that could come back to haunt one country club or the control body, Racing Queensland.

IT is almost three years to the day since top northern jockey, Graeme Kliese, was involved in a horror fall from a horse named Fundido in a race at Home Hill.

The horse, a well-backed favorite was leading the field when it put a hoof in a hole on the course proper near the 600m. It broke a leg and had to be destroyed.

And the incident went close to destroying the jockey’s career as well. But aided by his fierce resilience and determination, Graham survived after months of recuperation and intense therapy.

Kliese’s lawyers, in a Townsville District Court claim lodged last week, are seeking $750,000 damages against four defendants, Burdekin Race Club, Racing Queensland, Townsville Turf Club and Burdekin Shire Council.

Oddly, Townsville Turf Club spokesperson, Cassandra Cazzulino, said the club had not received any ‘formal notification’. It is hard to understand the Burdekin Shire Council involvement but Racing Queensland has responded that it will ‘respond to the claim in due course’.

Kliese suffered four broken vertebrae and a cracked pelvis among other injuries in the fall. He claims the hole was covered up and unable to be seen because of the long grass.
Four other senior jockeys who rode at the meeting offered written statements that concurred with Kliese’s assessment of the track.

It really was an incident that should never have happened. It was at a time when the new Cluden track was under construction and the Townsville race dates were distributed to other clubs in the area of which Home Hill was a main beneficiary, which incidentally was a surprise to many licensees at the time.

Home Hill raced three times in five weeks in February-March of that year and a suggestion by the Townsville-based steward, Sam Woolaston, to transfer the last meeting (March 7) to Townsville was overruled by Racing Queensland.
It is most notable that after the fall, all meetings that had been transferred to Home Hill from Cluden were rescheduled for Mackay and Cairns.

Kliese’s claim includes his assessment that Home Hill was receiving insufficient maintenance and upkeep for it to be conducting racing meetings three times in five weeks.

“The track was rough, there were holes and the grass was too long for anyone to conduct an adequate assessment,” the claim states.

We wait with interest further developments in the case, especially RQ’s response.
 
AUSTRALIAN CUP FORM REVERSAL UP THE NOSE OF MANY PUNTERS
JACK JOHNSTON of MELBOURNE sent this email:
‘AS a punter I would like to raise the issue of form reversals and how hard it can be these days to back a winner.

The race I would like to talk about is the Australian Cup and how in the hell Harlem was able to win this Group 1 in a massive form reversal.

We’ve heard all the talk about the track bias and how he took advantage of the fast lane on the inside. Then there was the report about his ‘cold’ and the ‘miracle cure’ that Team Hayes adopted.

Let’s skip the BS and look at the facts – Harlem was rising in class to a Group 1 against the best middle distance weight-for-age horses going around. At his previous start he ran eighth of nine, beaten over 15 lengths, by Gailo Chop in an easier race. Now if that’s not a form reversal it will do until one comes along.

And on the subject of the Australian Cup, what about the ride of Stephen Baster on the Waterhouse-Bott-trained Supply and Demand? It was a slaughter job and he certainly didn’t help the chances of Gailo Chop or The Taj Mahal attacking them before dropping out to run second last. Sorry to say there was no query on the tactics adopted by Baster.’

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« 2018-Mar-21, 09:06 AM Reply #1048 »
A little short of contributions this week but not  on opinions...Waller Walla Walla gets a decent start in Sydney .....and no point asking a please explain from the NSW stewards on this or any other decision they make which fails the smell test ........they  issued a charge under AR50 to Liam Birchley yet ignored it when they allowed the horse nominated by him to run under their jurisdiction......no reply to a legitimate question from my goodself ....Racing Victoria turns a blind eye and a deaf ear to matters of public interest......I've found RQ usually replies and QRIC media man is helpful.

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‘DOES THE WALLER STABLE GET TOO MUCH START IN SYDNEY RACING?’ 
STAN STEWART of MELBOURNE takes a pot-shot at SYDNEY RACING and its ‘love affair’ with ‘champion trainer’ CHRIS WALLER:
‘MANY members of the racing public throughout Australia – especially in the punting fraternity – arguably feel that the powerful Chris Waller stable gets too much start in Sydney racing.

Rarely a week goes by when a Waller-trained runner doesn’t turn in a form reversal, the reasons for which always seem to be accepted by the stewards. Many times we see lesser fancied runners upset the one from the stable that the punters have backed into favoritism and there always seems to be backing for that winner at good odds.

It gives some punters the impression that racing in Sydney is not a level playing field. Saturday was another good example of what I feel would be highlighted by the mainstream racing media if they weren’t too close to the top trainer and officialdom.

We had the unusual situation last week – which not surprisingly was applauded by Waller – where stewards approved an application from the champion trainer to accept with the filly, Unforgotten, in the Phar Lap Stakes on the basis that she would only be permitted to start after a barrier trial to their satisfaction on Thursday. In effect a barred horse was allowed to be included in the fields.

Unforgotten had to pass the barrier test after pulling up with cardiac arrhythmia when she finished last in the Surround Stakes at Randwick when resuming. She was subsequently backed at long odds and caused a form reversal boilover win in the Phar Lap prompting Waller to do a massive ‘suck up’ to the stewards post-race – preempting that with a ‘no doubt there will be the critics’ comment.

 You betya mate – not that it will make an ounce of difference to the way things work in Sydney racing just to suit you and your stable – or that’s how it appears to many followers of the sport.

After the win Waller waffled on to the media, thankfully without breaking out the tissues:
“Originally the trials were Tuesday and they were put off because of the wet weather. Full credit to the stewards, not just for allowing us to trial Thursday, but also making her trial from the punter's perspective.

“Obviously there are a lot of questions that don't get answered. I think Racing NSW are on the forefront for that happening. I never doubt their decisions. I think that is why they are the leaders in Australia, if not the world.”

Firstly, the trial told us nothing about her prospects on Saturday – Unforgotten was required to do very little.

Secondly, if I were a champion trainer and my stable was doing virtually what it liked with form reversal wins and flops by favorites without explanations accepted on a regular basis I would be calling the stewards the best in the land, if not the world too. You have to be kidding Chris!
Let’s look at another race on Saturday involving one of your winners, Multifacets, backed from $21 to $12 while the more fancied stablemate Zourkham, $4.8 to $5.5, ran fourth.
At its previous start, at a night meeting at Canterbury, Multifacets got too far out of his ground settling last and running home for fourth without every looking a chance. He stepped up in class to a Saturday race and settled on the pace before proving too strong. Not only a change of tactics but also a form reversal from the stable which we have become so accustomed to in Sydney racing.

 To make matters even more complicated here is what the stewards reported after this race:
MULTIFACETS: 30 minutes prior to the running of this event trainer Mr C Waller notified the stewards the gelding would be ridden in a midfield position. Ten minutes before the running of the event jockey G Schofield approached the stewards and indicated his intention was to settle in a handy position from its wide draw, as he felt the gelding was not able to make up sufficient ground in the straight should it be ridden in its normal racing pattern. Announcements were made to this effect. Subsequent to the race G Schofield confirmed his intention was to be in a handy position, as he did not feel he would have the necessary speed to cross Nat King Cu and Tamarack, which were drawn to his inside. He said when both these runners did not go forward and Cyrus Rocks, drawn to his outside, went forward, Multifacets was able to use that horse to gain a more forward position than he had intended. Trainer Mr C Waller advised stewards that, whilst his intention initially had been to take up a midfield position, as notified to the stewards 30 minutes before the state of the race, he agreed with G Schofield’s assessment that the gelding, if possible, could take up a more forward position. Mr Waller added that, other than the gelding’s last start Canterbury on 2 March 2018, the tactic adopted by G Schofield was similar to its previous racing pattern. Stewards advised Mr Waller that, whilst appreciating his transparency in respect to notify changes of tactics, in this circumstance he would be required, under the provisions of AR135A, to notify changes in tactics no later than 30 minutes prior to the racing starting.

IN other words Waller was again allowed to bend the rules without any penalty.

This whole thing was a farce. Even 30 minutes prior to a race starting does not help punters if it involves tactics for a horse in a treble or quadrella that is already underway. Tactics should be required to be notified first thing in the morning. Of course, depending on how races are run, these have to be flexible but this was simply a massive change from settle last to racing on the pace.

As for the comment by Waller to stewards that other than the Canterbury race (when Multifacets settled last in a far from fast run affair) it normally raced on the pace, that is correct. What he forgot to add was that it has been failing to win when ridden that way.

If these stewards in Sydney are the best in the world, with all due respects to Mr Waller’s opinion, all I can say is God help the punters in other venues around the country.’

A couple of other gripes one about the QRIC stewards alleged discontent ......another seeking explanations from the VRC over the sacking of two former employees one of whom is contemplating an application to the Fair Work Commission ...good luck getting any response to that ...and does Doomben deserves a rest which  rounds up this weeks' issue.

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« 2018-Mar-21, 11:01 PM Reply #1049 »

‘DOES THE WALLER STABLE GET TOO MUCH START IN SYDNEY RACING?’ 
STAN STEWART of MELBOURNE takes a pot-shot at SYDNEY RACING


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Maybe Stan should stick to betting (and commenting on) biased racing in his beloved home state or the supposed "integrity" issues that bedevil it.

What does that mean anyway - "get too much start" - has Daniel Andrews done away with English down Victoria way?
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