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Offline j.r.b.

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O.P. « 2019-May-07, 12:46 PM »
Richard Callander's joined racenet. He kicked off this morning.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/i-m-back---and-i-m-bigger-than-ever-20190507

The first step in image rehabilitation?

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« 2019-May-07, 12:58 PM Reply #1 »
Not sure how you can fix your image after what happened.

Must be tough on his family.

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« 2019-May-07, 01:16 PM Reply #2 »
Plenty of others have done so.

D Oliver for starters.

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« 2019-May-07, 02:06 PM Reply #3 »
He was hanging around the mounting yard the other day.

Why would have that been if he kicked off with Racenet today?

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« 2019-May-07, 02:26 PM Reply #4 »
Plenty of others have done so.

D Oliver for starters.

I guess it depends on your definition of fixed.

Some people have long memories.
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« 2019-May-07, 02:31 PM Reply #5 »
From his article it sounds like he has been through a lot I hope he can get some peace along with his family.

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« 2019-May-07, 06:03 PM Reply #6 »

The racing media is consolidating

Richie deserves his chance -- so did his old partner at TVN, Bruce Clark, but his time at Racenet was short.

It is also well past time for Brent Zerafa to be returned to NSW  -- he is being harshly and unusually punished @RdotC.

The racing media has taken time to recover and consolidate after the collapse of TVN  -- a best-on-one-channel concept that should be restored.

RVL took its bat and all and went home to plan the mess that is now Melbourne racing.

If NINE MEDIA is true to its claim of 'independent always' we should soon see some insightful investigation of what passes for 'racing' in Victoria -- and some explanation of why addicted punters keep kicking the tin.

Racenet has emerged a winner -- especially with the Sportsman priced at $7.50 and not available til Friday.

Punters.com.au is a useful competitive complement in form analysis as is the the 528 form talk for Sydney on Thursday nights.

............as for RVL's RdotC and most of its overcrowded low-grade racing, the less said the better.

Even so, if what RVL serves up is what punters in Melbourne want, it points to a clear cultural gap with Sydney -- on a par with the chasm that separates Queensland!

[By way of a 'PS' -- I would like to know the broad outline of the commercial interests in the ownership of both Racenet and Punters.com.au]

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« 2019-May-07, 06:27 PM Reply #7 »



.................and, I should have added, 2KSKY is essential on Saturday mornings -- not least for its Melbourne tipsters.

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« 2019-May-08, 09:58 AM Reply #8 »
This isn't his first gig since "his big  mistake"  he's been on Just Racing for some time tipping ..not that I've taken any notice I can pick plenty of losers without  his help.

I admired him once over his attitude to the loss of a horse he had an interest in while he was on TVN or SKY one or the other ......  I forgotten the details but at the time he showed great fortitude in adversity while carrying on in front of the camera.

Lots of adverse comments on Racenet on his engagement  mostly agro (surprised comments weren't turned off) with some supporters still sticking...... giving him another chance which I don't disagree with.....but dudding the owners was more than a big mistake ...and he owned up only when caught out with the confronting evidence...he was lucky as was Liam Prior not to have faced criminal charges.

If this had of happened in QLD since QRIC I don't think he would have been as lucky as he was treated by RacingNSW...no referral to the police......turning a blind eye to  prosecution.

As far as I'm concerned I think Racenet provides a very good service with or without him and I won't be cancelling my subscription.

Giddy Up :thumbsup: 

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« 2019-May-08, 11:27 AM Reply #9 »
An incredibly short sighted decision by Racenet to let this nobody back into the industry

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« 2019-May-08, 06:08 PM Reply #10 »


Still interested - where can I look it up, please?

What is Bruce Clark doing these days?

What commercial interests are involved in the ownership and funding of Racenet and Punters.com.au

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« 2019-May-08, 06:23 PM Reply #11 »

Still interested - where can I look it up, please?

What is Bruce Clark doing these days?

What commercial interests are involved in the ownership and funding of Racenet and Punters.com.au

That's a good question last I heard  Bruce Clark  was writing a book on Darren Weir he comes on Press Room with Davie Fowler on Radio TAB on Mondays excepting public holidays at 8.30 am you could check him out on Facebook maybe send him a friend request ..I've no idea where he's employed....it's obvious who Racenet gets advertising from same for  Punters.com it was bought by NewsCorp not too long ago...that's about it..hope it helps.

Giddy Up :beer: 

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« 2019-May-08, 10:52 PM Reply #12 »


Thank you Arsenal

I have a high regard for Bruce Clark -- a straight shooter may not fit the sponsors preferred mould but would fit with NineMedia (as would BrentZ).

On current trends it looks like racing in Sydney will be the best and most attractive to punters.

News-corpse is presumably looking to produce a digital Sportsman to compensate for the probable demise of the hard copy -- but, as is Racenet, has pole position and n-c may rely on the Terrorgraph and the Hun.

Not sure where 9M fits -- at one time the SMH Friday Form-guide closely resembled the Racenet counterpart.

There is some hope far a bit of movement at the station.






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« 2019-May-09, 03:45 AM Reply #13 »


Thank God for the Murdoch pay-wall


The lead story in the May issue of The Monthly magazine starts with the headline:

News Corp: Democracyís greatest threat -- Denialism, nihilism and the Murdoch propaganda machine

You all know what the rest of the story says without being told.

The wonderful thing is that News-corpse has a pay-wall excluding non-subscribers from reading the tripe written.

OK it has some good people writing in the 'racing arena' but too often it is clear that they are toeing a party line -- one intended to keep the news-corpse papers 'popular' with punters and administrators.

The expectation may be about readers starting at the front before getting to the 'racing' at the back.

That's business -- and business is business -- but it is too often a very dirty business.

....... even so those that would never buy a news-corpse paper are denied the temptation to read it on line -- even the racing stuff which can give useful tips -- and that barrier is a wonderful thing for the most part.

............ a good reason for Richie to be at Racenet ..... to stymie the appeal to racing fans of the corpse's tabloids that dominate the nation and degrade the national identity.




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« 2019-May-10, 03:39 AM Reply #14 »


How long until Sportsman is no longer printed?

It will be sad day for sure -- given that the Banjo was an editor -- and that Hawkie would have the whole thing faxed around the world -- but at $7.50, to get stuff 2-days late, it cannot have long to go.

Even Richie's dad, Kenny, was an editor!

News-corpse runs low-grade form guides in its state tabloids -- but the Sportsman was the 'bible' , available for a-dollar in the '80s -- and on Thursday night to the faithful waiting for the 'drop' at Town Hall.

...... the times are a changing ....... and news corpse may be losing caste.


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« 2019-May-10, 08:01 AM Reply #15 »
How does Racenet pay itís columnists? No offence to them as they do offer a very good diverse sumup of races and opinion compared to the mainstream media.

I just canít see the salaries ever matching up at all.

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« 2019-May-10, 12:12 PM Reply #16 »
How does Racenet pay itís columnists? No offence to them as they do offer a very good diverse sumup of races and opinion compared to the mainstream media.

I just canít see the salaries ever matching up at all.

The whole racing economy has me gobsmacked.   :lol:

How many people does Sky Racing and the TAB employ ?

How do they pay for the MULTIPLIER ?


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« 2019-May-10, 04:25 PM Reply #17 »

Economies of scope from consolidation?

Whether it still cross-fertilizes I don't know but there was similarity in the SMH/Racenet form  -- and if RNSW pays for the SMH form guide then Racenet may have tagged along.

Someone is newly paying to run an enhanced daily NSW form guide in the SMH --  slow learners should be warned abut the wealth hazards of mid-week racing.

It would be interesting to know the players with the money causing movement at the station.

Has Bet Busters changed hands?

Is RVL still happy with Best Bets or is it going the way of Sportsman -- and presumably of Richies Winning Post.

.......... the untold story is about Shayne Montgomery at the SMH .......... the consistently best media tipster by far.............. but his Top5 not syndicated even to the Age on Saturdays.


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« 2019-May-10, 04:54 PM Reply #18 »
Now we see why you brought this up....bad luck to Monty . Perhaps if he selected 8 per race he might have had a better strike rate

When youíre finished pushing your own barrow at RVs expense you may be able to find some time to contact racenet re  montyís multiple  dart throwing
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« 2019-May-10, 08:06 PM Reply #19 »
I'm still buying the print copy of The Sportsman - Tuesday and Friday. They have had an internet copy I would suggest for at least 10 years - probably longer.

I've been buying the printed copy for about 50 years. Only since I took early retirement about  15 years ago have I been buying the Tuesday edition, The printed copy still has all what I need from a form guide perspective and I am still willing to spend my $16 each week for what I get.

I take my Sportsman along to my local pubtab each Wednesday and Saturday and certainly have very few complaints about the information it supplies me with.
   

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« 2019-May-11, 12:14 AM Reply #20 »


Sportsman was the best newspaper in the world.


It  had only 'the facts, just the facts ma'am' --  the judgement was yours  -- Dragnet's Joe Friday loved it!

Alas time has moved on and Racenet took first mover advantage on the internet -- maybe news-corpse feeds it.

Whatever, it is unlikely that expensive, hard copy form-guides will survive.

...........I get 'google alerts'....... it is so reassuring being diverted to a don't-bother news-corpse pay-wall.

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« 2019-May-14, 06:29 PM Reply #21 »


Richie QC

LEGAL CURRIE

Just for a moment forget whether Ben Currie is innocent or guilty.

Some Legal Eagles I know (and well qualified ones at that) tell me he will be back quicker than you can do a jig around the lounge room.

Remember Currie has not been caught with any devices, the ban is relating to text messages.


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« 2019-May-19, 02:54 AM Reply #22 »


Foxtel on the ropes?

The only reason I have Foxtel is to watch the Sydney races on 528.

If Foxtel is knocked out, it would open the way for 9 or 7 media to aim for a Saturday promotion of the best racing on a single channel.

........................ time is surely up for RVL and the nonsense of R . Com .. and a catalyst is needed to bring some semblance of a 'national' industry to the fore.


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« 2019-May-22, 05:45 AM Reply #23 »


Where does news-corpse stand?

One element of the dwindling news-corpse dominance has a bearing on the racing media.

What is up for sale at the 'right price' and what have they been buying?

Does the national racing industry administration have a view and a stake in the outcome favouring a compliant media?

........... as is the net 'print media' contest is Racenet v. Punters.com............. there will be big bucks on the table ....... the critical question is whether any net print-media player will survive with a genuine commitment to 'independent always' when the industry itself determines who gets the subsidies.




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