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Offline Bubbasmith

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O.P. « 2009-Mar-02, 11:42 AM »
If anyone can beat this rort they had better come up with something pretty good

In the days before the introduction of legalised off course betting all off track betting was done through SPs. You could get a bet on any Saturday meeting anywhere as long as you took SP. The SPs paid out on the results published in Monday's paper regardless as no one had access to the results at obscure meetings . To set up this rort a small amount of money was bet on a horse with every SP the group could locate  on an obscure race at Albury. The horse ran at Albury but got beaten, however in the Monday's  Melbourne edition of the paper it was printed as the winner with the SP of the real winner, due to a " printing mistake" made by a compositor at the paper who just happened to be in on the rort. The only "mistake" in Melbourne edition of the paper was the winner's name everything else matched up. As to arouse no suspicions the "mistake" was only made in the Melbourne edition of the paper and not in the Country edition, which was delivered to Albury where  the "mistake" would have been noted. Apparently the rort went on an irregular basis for quite a time and no one was any the wiser.. the small bets did not attract attention and they did not even have to enter a horse in the race they simply changed the winner's name to the horse they placed their bets..
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« 2009-Mar-02, 11:57 AM Reply #1 »
I have put this rort on to to this thread, but it still does not compare to the Newspaper Rort...

Some years ago there was a rort at the dogs. Apparently when the SA TAB was linked to the Vic pools it was possible to get on the SA TAB after the dogs had gone past the first turn. By watching the race on track on course in Melbourne a punter could relay by CB radio ( their were no mobile phones back then ) to his mate, who had an open phone line to the SA TAB up the road the number of dog that led around the first turn... big advantage to led around the first turn. The rort was detected by the TAB when they realised every dog that led around the first turn always paid under the "overlines" announced on the radio and those winners  that came from back in the field always paid more. After an investigation they found that all the very late bets on the winners that led were bet through the SA TAB.
 
 
 

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« 2009-Mar-02, 12:10 PM Reply #2 »
A low trick I saw played years ago at the track by one punter against another........

Prior to machine ticketing in Qld TABS, tickets were filled in manually by the operator and carbon copies kept at agencies. The "sting" happened when a punter brandishing what he claimed was a winning treble ticket worth thousands, was offered for sale at a heavily discounted figure so this character would have cash to back something for plenty in the last, having run out of readies. I was vaguely aware of him hawking this ticket round the betting ring...." I got it at the x agency, you collect it....." Eventually a sucker took the bait, apparently. I found out next raceday he had altered the ticket to change a 1 to an 11, the winning number. A costly lesson for the dupe.

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« 2009-Mar-02, 12:36 PM Reply #3 »
this rort was pulled by a few shifty operators,pre sky days,in sp/betting shops,they would bet on melbourne dogs race(rort pulled in sydney)whenever a dog race jumped and ran during a sydney trot race,as 2ky would call the trot race,1 rorter was in a phone box,ringing someone in melbourne,and would listen to the dog call over the phone,as soon as result was known,he would flash a torch a number of times,to match the winning dog number,another rorter would be looking out of the betting shop window,counting the flashes,then go and place his bet,lasted about 2 weeks,until the sp cottoned on,he was being rorted,until one night,the rorters unaware the sp was onto them,did their routine,and as the the guy flashed his torch x amount of times,the sp guy was standing behind the other rorter at the window,and before the rorter turned around to go and place his bet,the sp guy says,so number 5 is going to win the next race is it.
sp guy went through his records,tallied up how much they won on melbourne dogs over said period,and said you owe me x dollars

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« 2009-Mar-02, 12:44 PM Reply #4 »
The lengths some will go to, to put one over amaze.

Before the bookies started using computer print tickets a gang was moving around the tracks with this scam.........

Scam scout would hang around the ring waiting for big wager on a shortie, say "even 5000 ". Provided a ticket was written, and not a nod bet, the scammer would then  immediately place a small bet  " even $5 ", having already noted the number of the big money ticket, if it wasn't the one immediately prior. He then leaves the course, where an artful character with suitable  equipment, waiting in a car, adjusts the ticket to resemble the bigger bet. The horse must win to move to the next stage, where the scamster is first in the queue to collect.

Don't know if the plod caught up with them, but seemed  a nerve-wracking way to make a quid.

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« 2009-Mar-02, 01:09 PM Reply #5 »
I am not sure if this one is a rort or taking advantage of the greedy punters. Just picture this, a couple of blokes were going around the members at a sydney racecourse and were approaching people with a dead cert as long they put a grand on the horse, they will give you the name. There were 10 runners in that particular race. The trick was finding 10 mugs who put a grand  on every single runner so the duo did not lose. They then get a cut from the winner's winnings whilst making excuses for the rest. They did this for a few races before becoming unstuck when someone complained to a steward.

Offline Max Manewer

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« 2009-Mar-02, 01:11 PM Reply #6 »
Should have  been drowned at birth, you'd think.

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« 2009-Mar-02, 01:33 PM Reply #7 »
A bloke i knew ... :censored: going back around the 80s ...told everybody around the track  gold coast this is... ;)that he'd had this cruise going...all you can drink & eat...around 50 a head i think he was charging.. :unsu...anyway about well over 200 lobs up on the warf at runaway bay....only to find there was no boat....  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-02, 01:35 PM Reply #8 »
A ghost ship ?

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« 2009-Mar-02, 01:39 PM Reply #9 »

Offline parrapete

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:05 PM Reply #10 »
Around 1970 a rort was pulled off at Beaudesert races on a Wednesday afternoon.
2GB used to send the call of Canterbury midweek  races to Beaudesert Post Office.The PO would send the call to the track.Some genius intercepted the call between the PO and track, listened to Winsdor Park winning the Welter,he then sent the winner's name to his mates at the track before releasing the call.

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:22 PM Reply #11 »
Yes parrapete, that was a well publicised case, not sure if they nailed the wire tapper in the end, but it  did get to court.

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:25 PM Reply #12 »
  :biggrin:

Offline Max Manewer

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:29 PM Reply #13 »
You've still got the alligator clips, mate ?  :o

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:38 PM Reply #14 »
I got told  once to....one pictular greyhound track in Nsw ...they use to  spray oil in  the boxes..only to short price favs of cause...dogs comes out slips ..misses the kick.. :o

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:51 PM Reply #15 »
Easier to squash their muzzle around their nose as ya load em into the box.
They start clawing at it and miss the start   emthup

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:53 PM Reply #16 »
Easier to squash their muzzle around their nose as ya load em into the box.
They start clawing at it and miss the start   emthup


Yeh that was a old one to lasry...the wire muzzle trick ....also they choke down in the run mate...

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« 2009-Mar-02, 02:56 PM Reply #17 »
Why'd ya do it OL ? Desparate times ?   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-02, 03:17 PM Reply #18 »
They also give the male dogs nuts a squeeze as they are loading them  :o
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« 2009-Mar-02, 03:20 PM Reply #19 »
What if they had silicone implant nuts ?

Offline Da Judge

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« 2009-Mar-02, 03:30 PM Reply #20 »
just start a slow dog   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-02, 04:10 PM Reply #21 »
They also give the male dogs nuts a squezze as they are loading them  :o


You'd be out of luck there if he had no nuts....  :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-02, 04:18 PM Reply #22 »
They also give the male dogs nuts a squezze as they are loading them  :o

I never knew dogs nuts had to be loaded, I thought they filled up the same as ours   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2009-Mar-02, 05:11 PM Reply #23 »
Hey i brought some good shit the other day....from a horse n hound joint...called...Rapigel....put that on ya nuts and you'll be running for miles...

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« 2009-Mar-03, 12:22 AM Reply #24 »
Ahh yes Max the printing press gang. I think a few of the boys caught up with them one day in the public tolets at Flemington racecourse.   :lol:


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