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Offline j.r.b.

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O.P. « 2017-Nov-19, 08:55 PM »
Seems this great looking son of So You Think is gonna cop the ultimate gear change after his antics at Sandown yesterday.

Frankly, he's actually paying the price for the egregiously incompetent manner in which his career's been managed by his trainer. It's been a train wreck.

He needs a stable change rather than the gear change.

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« 2017-Nov-20, 10:14 AM Reply #1 »
Exactly my thoughts .

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« 2017-Nov-20, 11:06 AM Reply #2 »
I have seen mares and Geldings do the same thing, Trainers want all horses gelded, 1st they race on for longer, even the good ones, Trainer wins, second you do not need competent experienced staff to look after mares and Geldings, trainer wins again.....3rd you can lead 2 even 3 geldings/mare combinations at a time so you need less staff than you do if you have multiple Stallions in your stable, they need individual strappers, saving big dollars on staff numbers, I'll leave it to you to figure out who wins again......there are multiple good reasons for gelding a horse, to make them a better racehorse isn't one of them........that was the first time that horse has done that, first reaction is to get out the knife? Obviously the horse isn't as good as first thought, he is very good and may even be competitive in the right Group One.......he is still a young horse, he has been around in everything........he was probably just sick and tired of the merry-go-round he was on.........and he may still have some maturing to do.....that is what improves a horse, not gelding them..........there have been a few trainers whose strike rate has dropped off in the last couple of years for obvious reasons, this is one of them......but that is another story

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« 2017-Nov-20, 09:55 PM Reply #3 »
Seems this great looking son of So You Think is gonna cop the ultimate gear change after his antics at Sandown yesterday.

Frankly, he's actually paying the price for the egregiously incompetent manner in which his career's been managed by his trainer. It's been a train wreck.

He needs a stable change rather than the gear change.

Thought he ran up to win on Saturday (I nibbled the $21  :tears: ) whether it was that or he knocked up having been all over the place with the distances this prep.  :shutup:

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« 2017-Nov-21, 06:13 AM Reply #4 »
Thought he ran up to win on Saturday (I nibbled the $21  :tears: ) whether it was that or he knocked up having been all over the place with the distances this prep.  :shutup:

the horse tried to savage another horse in that race , currently suspended

Suspension (Savaged Another Runner)   18-Nov-2017   SANDOWN   Terry Bailey   attempted to savage another runner shortly after the start - official trial before racing again
« Last Edit: 2017-Nov-21, 06:40 AM by ratsack »

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« 2017-Nov-30, 02:49 PM Reply #5 »
Things seem to be looking up for So Si Bon.  :clap2:

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« 2017-Nov-30, 04:01 PM Reply #6 »
What have I missed Auth  :chin:

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« 2017-Nov-30, 04:04 PM Reply #7 »
Off to H,H & D at Euroa.

Manhood presumably saved, at least temporarily.

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« 2017-Nov-30, 04:14 PM Reply #8 »
  emthup   :sweat:

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« 2017-Dec-01, 01:14 PM Reply #9 »
I was told nearly 40 years ago by an old trainer in Queensland, if you are going to take your horse off me, make sure you give it to a trainer who is  better than me.

We then gave the horse to Henry Davis who  won the Brisbane premiership the next year. Like So Si Bon our horse had only one win from a lot of starts. He manage to win 6 races that next season.

So good luck to the owners and I hope things work out as well for them as it did for us all those years ago.

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« 2018-Feb-20, 04:13 PM Reply #10 »
I see where So Si Bon barrier trialed at Cranbourne yesterday. He finished 4th out of 8.

The trial must have been okay as  he is now one of the 33 horses who are left in the  Newmarket after first acceptances today.

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« 2018-Mar-06, 03:00 PM Reply #11 »
Has accepted for the Newmarket and if he doesn't win no doubt his connections will at least feel vindicated  if he can finish in front of Robbie Laing's 2 runners.
« Last Edit: 2018-Mar-06, 03:04 PM by ianb »

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« 2018-Mar-06, 05:15 PM Reply #12 »
It's the sort of race where he could blouse them fresh  :chin:

You can't doubt his talent but the handling of him is another matter ......

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« 2018-Mar-06, 05:39 PM Reply #13 »
It's the sort of race where he could blouse them fresh  :chin:

You can't doubt his talent but the handling of him is another matter ......
I see you use a word that had been in racing for a long time, blouse.
Where does this come from? It certainly is a piece of clothing but I have never heard it used in any other sport.
Origin anyone?

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« 2018-Mar-06, 10:52 PM Reply #14 »
We need our resident wordsmith in J.W.H to tell us  :shrug:

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« 2018-Mar-12, 11:19 AM Reply #15 »
Oh dear- not only does So Si Bon run 3rd last but he was up to his old tricks again.

Tried to bite his ex stablemate Missrock and has been banned until he has 2 more trials during which he must show exemplary behaviour.

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« 2018-Mar-13, 07:37 PM Reply #16 »


THIS DISCUSSION HAS THE HALLMARKS OF BALLS-OFF

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« 2018-Mar-22, 02:58 PM Reply #17 »
The good news for the owners and all of the followers of So Si Bon is that he has now had his 2 barrier trials and the embargo on him has been lifted. The trials were on successive days (19/3 and 20/3).

I assume David Hayes et al will find a race for him next weekend.

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« 2018-Mar-28, 06:12 PM Reply #18 »
He's in Race 8 at Caulfield.

 If all goes well  it should be a winnable race for him.

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« 2018-Apr-19, 02:47 PM Reply #19 »
After a last start 5th here we go again. This time over 1600M and only 8 starters. Three of which beat him last start.

He was ridden up near the lead last start and didn't go on with it. I would think that they would therefore want him to be ridden back to see what he would do in this race.

Unfortunately there does not appear any speed in the race so what to do?

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« 2018-Apr-20, 10:24 AM Reply #20 »
No speed in the race is good. He is not a miler. He should have been freshened and run in the Goodwood.

Hopefully he drops out to near last, they go slow and he out sprints them.

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« 2018-Apr-21, 01:14 PM Reply #21 »
 Moved to applicable thread!.
« Last Edit: 2018-Apr-21, 03:36 PM by pegasyber »

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« 2018-Apr-21, 01:34 PM Reply #22 »
No speed in the race is good. He is not a miler. He should have been freshened and run in the Goodwood.

Hopefully he drops out to near last, they go slow and he out sprints them.

Well they went slow and he sat on the pace, not finishing off  :no:

His best runs have been when he's sat back and rushed at them.

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« 2018-Apr-21, 02:05 PM Reply #23 »
Well they went slow and he sat on the pace, not finishing off  :no:

His best runs have been when he's sat back and rushed at them.

And at 1200m.

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« 2018-May-21, 09:55 AM Reply #24 »
So Si Bon claims another Flemington victim

Serial biter So Si Bon has had another racing ban placed on him after infringing for a third time at Flemington.

So Si Bon earned his latest black mark from Racing Victoria stewards after finishing third in the Colin Hayes, AM, OBE Hall Of Fame Trophy on Saturday.

Jumping from barrier two, So Si Bon took a nip at Yesterday's Song which had drawn inside him.

Lindsay Park co-trainer Tom Dabernig said a decision on So Si Bon's career would be decided by owners while stewards have placed an indefinite ban on the gelding.


http://www.aapmegaform.com.au/news/article.aspx?article-id=456835&category=RN




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