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Offline philby42

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« 2018-Jul-31, 09:18 AM Reply #1025 »
Me too. bought them on my home pc via my tab account.
Do I register them?
Gday Wily, if you procure on account you do not have to register.  That being said I would encourage you to register in any case so that in the event you are successful RNSW can get onto you immediately.  Cheers, Philby

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« 2018-Jul-31, 09:21 AM Reply #1026 »

................. anyone buying these 'tickets' needs their head read
Disagree, I think this is a great example of racing bodies trying new things, innovating if you will.  The symmetry between Kosciuszko and Everest i personally think is quite clever as RNSW looks to build out this big day of racing.  This site in particular has often lamented a lack of innovation so I think its great to see different things being tried and new race days being built out.

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« 2018-Jul-31, 01:33 PM Reply #1027 »
Disagree, I think this is a great example of racing bodies trying new things, innovating if you will.  The symmetry between Kosciuszko and Everest i personally think is quite clever as RNSW looks to build out this big day of racing.  This site in particular has often lamented a lack of innovation so I think its great to see different things being tried and new race days being built out.

Nationally, with the Caulfield Guineas and a slew of other good races being run on the same day, this will become Australia's #1 racing Saturday and you'd expect that the betting figures will follow. The MRC are an unwitting partner in this mammoth day of racing.

I cannot understand all the negativity that we saw when it was first announced - other from those who would criticize the head of Racing NSW if he says "boo" in public.

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« 2018-Jul-31, 11:05 PM Reply #1028 »

Highway robbery -- a bad idea made worse by another

The contrived popularity of the 'highway' races by administrators does not translate for punters.

The new 'mountain highway' race does not respect punters either --  without comparable form it is just another race to be avoided bar the usual focus on a couple of trainers with a good strike rate.

As for punters buying 'tickets' there are two things to say -- first buying a ticket will not  appeal to many punters and, second, it is hardly fair to ask punters to kick the tin to provide ear-marked prize-money when they are already being taxed excessively to provide the prize-money.

.... RacingNSW should have simply drawn tickets from the TAB account holders that placed bets on a nominated race run one month before.


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« 2018-Aug-03, 10:37 AM Reply #1029 »
Was just looking through some old results and collecting some data and came across this - what happened here?


Thank you for your enquiry.
Due to a technical issue, pari-mutuel betting on round 5 of the AFL FootyTab was abandoned. All the pool money was refunded for AFL Round 5 FootyTab.
Regards,
TAB Customer Support

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« 2018-Aug-05, 05:26 PM Reply #1030 »
This is a big ask philby, but is there any chance Sky can put a camera behind the barrier stalls focused on Chautauqua in his trial on Tuesday at Rosehill - like racing.com did when he trialed down there?

Cheers.

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« 2018-Aug-06, 02:50 PM Reply #1031 »

What's the barometer saying about the weather on Kosciusko?

............ would RacingNSW like to publish a 'barometer' progress tally for the sales of $5 tickets to fund the mountain race.

The format would be the hoped for 'total' at the top and the weekly climb of tickets paid for.

.... this would serve as an intelligence test for the punters.


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« 2018-Aug-06, 03:03 PM Reply #1032 »
What's the barometer saying about the weather on Kosciusko?

............ would RacingNSW like to publish a 'barometer' progress tally for the sales of $5 tickets to fund the mountain race.

The format would be the hoped for 'total' at the top and the weekly climb of tickets paid for.

.... this would serve as an intelligence test for the punters.
Pete, thanks for the question but one probably best directed to RNSW. Cheers, Philby

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« 2018-Aug-06, 03:22 PM Reply #1033 »
This is a big ask philby, but is there any chance Sky can put a camera behind the barrier stalls focused on Chautauqua in his trial on Tuesday at Rosehill - like racing.com did when he trialed down there?

Cheers.
Gday PP7, we asked but were denied by the stewards.  Cheers, Philby

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« 2018-Aug-06, 05:11 PM Reply #1034 »


Mountain Race -- need to know.

TAB is selling the tickets and TAB should ask RNSW to allow the publication.

TAB is required to keep punters informed of the development of 'bettig pools'

I need guidance on when to consider placing a bet.

If there is an ambition to raise $1million -- 200,000 tickets -- the market needs to be informed.

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« 2018-Aug-06, 09:33 PM Reply #1035 »

Mountain Race -- need to know.

TAB is selling the tickets and TAB should ask RNSW to allow the publication.

TAB is required to keep punters informed of the development of 'bettig pools'

I need guidance on when to consider placing a bet.

If there is an ambition to raise $1million -- 200,000 tickets -- the market needs to be informed.

those that do form are informed
before buying tickets i checked , they are selling 250000 tickets

a few mates and myself decided to buy a few tickets and have some fun

get lucky and head to Randwick suited up

some people do that , you know have a throw at the stumps have fun

although ya need friends for that    lol


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« 2018-Aug-06, 09:35 PM Reply #1036 »
maybe Monty will take you ?

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« 2018-Aug-07, 07:55 AM Reply #1037 »


................  this scheme is nuts, rats............the punters contributing the prizemoney twice

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« 2018-Aug-07, 09:03 AM Reply #1038 »

Mountain Race -- need to know.

TAB is selling the tickets and TAB should ask RNSW to allow the publication.

TAB is required to keep punters informed of the development of 'bettig pools'

I need guidance on when to consider placing a bet.

If there is an ambition to raise $1million -- 200,000 tickets -- the market needs to be informed.
Thanks Pete for your ongoing interest in the innovative Kosciusko concept.  My understanding is that this is a sweep stake so Tab's doesn't have the obligations you imply.  I would encourage you to direct your questions to main promotor: Racing NSW.  Cheers, Philby

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« 2018-Aug-07, 09:52 AM Reply #1039 »

................  this scheme is nuts, rats............the punters contributing the prizemoney twice

No ones twisting your are you dingbat.

Not to partake is your decision but don’t dare to speak for others

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« 2018-Aug-07, 09:07 PM Reply #1040 »

sweepstakes?

.......the only sweeping is the hype asking punters to buy a ticket........ and at stake is the chance of negotiating a decision that the winners would have no idea how to proceed.

Why would anyone have ever expected this nonsense to sell tickets?

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« 2018-Aug-08, 06:47 AM Reply #1041 »
sweepstakes?

.......the only sweeping is the hype asking punters to buy a ticket........ and at stake is the chance of negotiating a decision that the winners would have no idea how to proceed.

Why would anyone have ever expected this nonsense to sell tickets?
Thanks Pete, much like today’s discussion in the media about a racetrack for Central Melbourne I applaud the racing industry for continually looking to innovate.  The Kosciusko is one such innovation that is to be applauded.  I only wish I could buy a ticket.  Cheers, Philby


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« 2018-Aug-08, 08:56 AM Reply #1042 »
I'm quite happy to let Peter talk for me here because I agree with him completely.

This is a lottery where you have to win twice before seeing any financial benefit.......and a concept?...it's just a gimmick

Never really understood the fun in losing money.


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« 2018-Aug-08, 06:45 PM Reply #1043 »
Nemesis
If your talking big bucks yes I agree with you , but $5 for a bit of fun, hardly worth slashing the wrists  over.
There’s a great prize on offer and throwing a fiver at it is okay by most,
Given I have 5 coffees a day, is it really that bad

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« 2018-Aug-08, 06:50 PM Reply #1044 »
For those who do not like the concept it is really quite simple.

Don't buy a ticket.

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« 2018-Aug-08, 07:56 PM Reply #1045 »

Don't buy a ticket may be good advice

......... the problem is that the marketing is intended to induce punters to buy a ticket .... and the punters at risk include those in rural 'highway territory' who may be susceptible to supporting local heros.

Races for country horses in Sydney is a contradiction in terms -- it is deceiving country people to pay-up for a run in Sydney, pretending it is a metropolitan 'winner'.

I  support two slots being allocated to country horses in races like the Epsom but the qualifying races should be run in rural areas.


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« 2018-Aug-08, 11:01 PM Reply #1046 »
For those who do not like the concept it is really quite simple.

Don't buy a ticket.

Well said mate. And as philby said for those who cannot read. There is no issue here relating to the TAB. It is a Racing NSW thing.

Why is it polluting this thread which has an express purpose?

You want to whinge and whine about the race. Open your own thread. You can go knock yourself out with your negativity there.

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« 2018-Aug-08, 11:15 PM Reply #1047 »
You people just don't get it, Pete is able to jump tall buildings in a single bound, he is faster than a speeding Bullet, stronger than a Locomotive and when he is is disguise as the mild mannered Pete Mair he is still looking after us, protecting us from evil......no wait that is that other fella God.....Pete is the one with the Big Red "S"

for mine I do agree with him, this lottery is for fools that are easily parted from their money.....but that is just me, I don't buy Lottery tickets, I don't let some one else decide what races I bet into(Quadrellas)....and I don't let someone else decide what horse I back(Quadrellas)....I punt to win!

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« 2018-Aug-09, 07:39 AM Reply #1048 »
Well said mate. And as philby said for those who cannot read. There is no issue here relating to the TAB. It is a Racing NSW thing.

Why is it polluting this thread which has an express purpose?

You want to whinge and whine about the race. Open your own thread. You can go knock yourself out with your negativity there.
The advertisement for the Kosciuszko has been given top right on my TAB page.......the favoured, can't miss spot.

That would make it a NSW TAB  related issue in my book.

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« 2018-Aug-09, 08:24 AM Reply #1049 »

The hype is now spruiking a mountain Calcutta to boost ticket sales


........this is a new dimension to the intelligence test



To those who are not familiar with a Calcutta it can be a confusing concept to grasp.  It is a combination of a raffle and auction. Firstly, tickets are sold (like a raffle) for $10 each and each ticket gives the purchaser a chance of drawing a horse that is racing in the Melbourne Cup. There is a minimum spend of $500 on tickets per table. The more tickets purchased, the higher the chances of drawing a horse and becoming a ‘horse owner’. The number of horses in the race corresponds with the amount of tickets drawn.  For example if there are 24 horses racing in the Melbourne Cup than 24 tickets will be pulled out of the barrel. Those who have their ticket drawn become the owner of that horse.

Following the ticket draw each horse than goes up for auction and the person with the winning bid becomes the new owner of that horse. The original owner of each horse receives 50 per cent of the auctioned value. The rest of the proceeds go into the ‘winning pool’. The original owners are also able to bid on their own horses, which may be appealing if the horse is favoured to run well.

Once all of the horses are auctioned, the ‘winning pool’ is tallied and pre-set dividends are distributed to fourth place ($1,000), fifth place ($750) and last ($500). The remainder of the pool is allocated to first (70 per cent of the pool), second (20 per cent of the pool) and third prize (10 per cent of the pool).


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