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Offline Gintara

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« 2019-Apr-28, 03:00 PM Reply #1200 »
Hi Wile

Dynamic odds - comparison odds site , you cant bet from there direct into most corps (incl TAB)

Dynamic had the scr out but of course the TAB still left their market up - so using Dynamic you are none the wiser if and ONLY IF Tab have taken it out of their market

I'll play devil's advocate here - why would the TAB care if you choose to use a 3rd party platform? Isn't buyer beware?

It's a bit like buying concert tickets through a 3rd party then complaining you got ripped off as they were dearer than Ticketmaster  :chin:


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« 2019-Apr-28, 04:19 PM Reply #1201 »
Sadly we’re let down again with video replays in the form for the Big meeting in Japan

“Arriving shortly” .......but they never do :sad:

They only have replays if they covered the race. I had a look at some and for example Fierment has replay available for 21/10 but not for others.

Likewise Etario has a couple available.

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« 2019-Apr-29, 02:04 PM Reply #1202 »
I'll play devil's advocate here - why would the TAB care if you choose to use a 3rd party platform? Isn't buyer beware?

It's a bit like buying concert tickets through a 3rd party then complaining you got ripped off as they were dearer than Ticketmaster  :chin:


your analogy is incorrect , the 3rd party platforms are not on offer from the original seller

they are OFFERING the DYNAMIC platform as an option , if they want you to be able to use it , then get your house in order

they will destroy this company rorting punters....there's only so many out there and if you cheese enough off ....
« Last Edit: 2019-Apr-29, 02:09 PM by stevo63 »

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« 2019-Apr-29, 09:22 PM Reply #1203 »

your analogy is incorrect , the 3rd party platforms are not on offer from the original seller



That's the whole point, you're betting through a 3rd party, buyer beware imho!

Granted maybe the TAB should be better but it's still your onus to know what you're betting into.

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2019-May-19, 07:54 AM Reply #1204 »
No exotic betting available on the Preakness Stakes but it is available in some place called Jagersro :no:

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« 2019-May-19, 12:01 PM Reply #1205 »
A couple of points, you can bet into your account on the majority of corporates direct through Dynamic Odds
Second if you are betting before 8am you are a fool if you do not check with the Bookie site to be sure that the scratchings have been taken out
3rd if you look at the Bookies (TAB)percentage it sticks out like dogs balls if they haven't taken a significant scratching out
Blaming the tool because you are a bad tradesman might make you feel justified but you will never learn or improve
Get with the Program

in short stop whinging and do your due diligence!
p.s. I have been using DO for a looong time now and never had a problem using "3rd party"......you can't win without it and you are a fool if you try!

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« 2019-May-22, 07:10 AM Reply #1206 »
nice work condoning disgraceful behavior!
a 10/1 chance scr 65 minutes beforehand and 22 after interim scratchings betting with DO (an approved 3rd party unlike unauthorized parties)  showing the scratchings out and still with a high place percentage TABcorp style - not like it was a $2 chance and the percentage was under 300 for the place....
try this on a saturday race metro more so in a carnival and see the uproar - fact being a lowly ipswich monday meeting should make no DIFFERENCE
once scratchings are declared BETTING SHOULD STOP until reset , its not ROCKET SCIENCE ffs  , the average punter WOULD NOT ....NOT SHOULD NOT HAVE TO CHECK TABCORP HAVE DONE THEIR JOB...

I have been in this game for a very long time in all shapes and forms and am certainly aware of percentages fcol!

Wake up to yourself and show some support and not pat the TAB on the head....or maybe you are a shareholder ....yeah that'll do it!

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« 2019-May-22, 10:24 PM Reply #1207 »
Steve you are doing it again, making the facts fit your view....I never said what they did was right, I was telling you how to handle it so you don't get caught again........I have had that problem many times, but unlike you I have always done my due diligence, I never bet unless I know all the facts, I try to learn instead of complaining....
There are two types of people in the world, those who work the system.....and those that the system works!......the decision which one you are is a personal one, it's up to you
it doesn't matter who is right or who is wrong, you are always gunna feel screwed if you don't work the system
Life is about the experience and learning something from every experience you have..........acting like petulant child won't help you but you do what ever you want,

Offline Wenona

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« 2019-Jun-01, 08:14 PM Reply #1208 »
So I have a $50 trio on the 1st at Wentworth Park tonight and miss. Dividend is zero ie $0.00 with a Jackpot of $5.60.

I have a $50 trio on Wentworth Park race 3 tonight and miss ... dividend is zero ie $0.00 and there is no Jackpot.

What sort of bullshit is that?

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« 2019-Jun-02, 07:23 AM Reply #1209 »
So I have a $50 trio on the 1st at Wentworth Park tonight and miss. Dividend is zero ie $0.00 with a Jackpot of $5.60.

I have a $50 trio on Wentworth Park race 3 tonight and miss ... dividend is zero ie $0.00 and there is no Jackpot.

What sort of bullshit is that?
Hi Wenona, the Trio uses merged pool technology to produce a result. Hence the outcomes you are seeing.  More info can be found he https://help.tab.com.au/s/article/MPT-FAQ
Regards
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« 2019-Jun-02, 12:58 PM Reply #1210 »
There were no Jackpots on the Trifecta dividends.

So when the trio isn't won and the losing investments aren't carried forward they must be being used to inflate the trifecta dividends.

Well they're the last trio's I'll be taking.

Why would I bet into a Trio pool where at best a merger pool will give me a 'fair' dividend when I can bet into a Trifecta pool that's going to be inflated with dead money from the Trio investments when there is no winning Trio investment?

« Last Edit: 2019-Jun-02, 01:15 PM by Wenona »

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« 2019-Jun-18, 01:56 PM Reply #1211 »
In yesterday's Herald-Sun (page 41), under the heading "Royal Deal Helps Punters", Gilbert Gardiner reported
"In a landmark deal between Tabcorp, Ascot and the Hong Kong Jockey Club and other international operators, TAB's S-TAB pool will co-mingle into a new Royal Ascot world pool for this week's five-day carnival. TAB punters will have access to deeper pools and more stable dividends when the royal meeting starts tomorrow. The pools will be hosted by the HKJC, and incorporate the British tote and other international operators."

THERE'S ONE BIG PROBLEM!

He conveniently neglected to mention that the takeout rate for win bets (usually 14.5%) has increased to 17.5% for these races, based on current TAB approximates.
If you have a TAB NSW account, the takeout rate on these win bets is still 14.5%.
I fail to see how this "Royal Deal Helps Punters"!

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« 2019-Jun-20, 05:44 PM Reply #1212 »
Today’s racing tag on the website has races 1,2,3,4,.......6 down for the Ascot meeting. Listed as Ascot UK

Then R5 is listed by itself as if it’s another meeting. Listed as Ascot (GBR). Why?

They did it yesterday. R1 & 5 were left off the main meet and listed as seperate  :confused1:

« Last Edit: 2019-Jun-20, 05:46 PM by wily ole dog »

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« 2019-Jun-20, 06:24 PM Reply #1213 »
Wily

They always list fixed odds only races separate to those where the tote operates.

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« 2019-Jun-20, 09:08 PM Reply #1214 »
 :clap2:
Thanks sobig

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« 2019-Nov-04, 05:16 PM Reply #1215 »
N9 video form  for the internationals on the tab sites🤮

Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2020-May-03, 09:05 AM Reply #1216 »
Had an early bet today on the TAB and used my multiplier.

1.02 !!!!

How lousy have they become. I've never, ever had 1.02.

Why bother with the promotion at all?  emthdown  emthdown

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« 2020-May-03, 09:36 AM Reply #1217 »
PP7,

They are suffering at the moment - pools way way way down for various reasons.

I am staying in bed more and more!

WE heard that QLD pools would get merged VICTAB? in June quite some time ago - I certainly hope that is still the case.

Fours

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« 2020-May-03, 10:19 AM Reply #1218 »
I've often wondered about the multiplier......is it anticipating the market or have I been winning too much lately?   :lol:  

They gave me 1.10 yesterday......on Rising Red.....so thanks TAB......maybe I've been losing too much lately!    :lol:  

Off topic but how nice to see the big son of Redwood going dead straight on a track that doesn't feel like concrete to him.....hasn't seen many of them in his career.....none of the laying in we usually see from him on the Victorian tracks.

They have just given me 1.10 again today .......on the $20k auction horse Pueblo
« Last Edit: 2020-May-03, 10:45 AM by nemisis »

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« 2020-May-03, 10:49 AM Reply #1219 »
They will improve the pools around June and probably July when the agencies,  pubs and clubs open up again.

Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-Sep-13, 09:25 AM Reply #1220 »
Why are there no Taree replays in the form on the website?

Seems they are the only club that never appears

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« 2020-Sep-13, 12:20 PM Reply #1221 »
Strange one wily particularly as if you go the the previous Taree results the replays are there.

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« 2020-Sep-13, 12:32 PM Reply #1222 »
Where's P1 or P2 when you need them?

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« 2020-Sep-13, 02:07 PM Reply #1223 »
Where's P1 or P2 when you need them?
P1 hasn't been with the TAB for yonks.

Offline philby42

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« 2020-Sep-13, 03:50 PM Reply #1224 »
Gday Wily, have asked the respective team to look into the issues you raised re runners with form history that includes a run at Taree.  In the the last at Coffs today the toppy has had a run at Taree and there is no video link.  Thanks for raising. Cheers, P2


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