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Offline westie

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O.P. « 2008-Oct-21, 06:59 PM »

Moonee Valley Racing Club

A FIELD of 12 horses will contest this Saturday’s Group 1 $3 million Tatts Cox Plate (2040m) at Moonee Valley.

The Bart Cummings trained Sirmione, winner of the Group 1 Australian Cup earlier this year, will carry saddlecloth number one in the weight-for-age championship and will be ridden by dual Cox Plate winning jockey Damien Oliver.

Following the declaration of the final field this morning, connections of all entrants were challenged by the Moonee Valley Racing Club to select their own barriers.

Racing Victoria’s Chief Steward Terry Bailey drew horses by lot and connections were then asked on stage to select an alley at a mock set of barrier stalls. The first horse drawn was C’est La Guerre owned by Lloyd Williams. The stable chose barrier three.

Interestingly the Gai Waterhouse trained Theseo was the eighth horse selected yet his jockey/ representative at the barrier draw Nash Rawiller opted for the outside barrier 12. No horse has ever won from barrier 12.

The order of selection for Tatts Cox Plate barriers was

C'est La Guerre (3)
Alamosa (7)
Maldivian (6)
Princess Coup (9)
Zipping (5)
Samantha Miss (2)
Gallant Tess (4)
Sirmione (8)
Theseo (12)
Zarita (1)
Raheeb (10)
Master O'Reilly (11)

Connections of Sirmione, which looked in sensational order at this morning’s gallops, drew barrier 8 for the horse. Since the race was first run in 1922 only two winners have drawn gate 8. The last winner was Redcraze in 1957. Bart Cummings has won three Cox Plates during his illustrious career so far with Taj Rossi, Saintly and Dane Ripper. Of the current trainers in Australia Cummings holds the record for the most wins in the race. The late Tommy Smith trained an amazing seven Cox Plate winners.

John Bromley, part-owner of Tatts Cox Plate favourite Princess Coup, ($3.80) selected barrier 9 for the star New Zealand mare. The four-year-old daughter of Encosta De Lago arrives in Australia tomorrow and her trainer Mark Walker does not land in Melbourne until this Friday. Walker will appear exclusively at the Tatts Cox Plate Last Word Media Conference on Friday at 11am at Moonee Valley (Deck Bar).

Another horse flying the flag for New Zealand, Alamosa, drew favourably this morning. The recent Group 1 Toorak Handicap winner’s trainer Mick Price selected gate 7 for the horse – this is the most successful barrier in the history of the race.

The lone three-year-old filly in the Tatts Cox Plate, Newcastle’s Samantha Miss, did not appear at this morning’s Breakfast with the Best gallops but her trainer Kris Lees was on hand to draw her barrier. He chose gate 2 which has so far produced six winners. She remains the second favourite for the race at $4 with Betstar.

In a trackside interview at the Valley this morning leading Sydney trainer Gai Waterhouse, who will saddle up Group 1 Epsom Handicap winner Theseo in the Tatts Cox Plate this Saturday, boldly declared that Samantha Miss is the best filly to come out of NSW in 20 years.

A total of nine individual Group 1 winners will line up in this Saturday’s Tatts Cox Plate. The 12 horses have won a total of 83 races between them (Princess Coup the best performer with 12 wins).

This year’s field has won total stakes of $13,920,538 million and five of the horses are “equine millionaires”.

The 2008 Tatts Cox Plate will be run as race 8 on the 10-race card this Saturday at 4:05pm.


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« 2008-Oct-21, 07:00 PM Reply #1 »
Sportsbet No. Runner Win Place   
34411 PRINCESS COUP  3.60 1.59 
34428 SAMANTHA MISS  4.00 1.68 
34471 ZIPPING  8.00 2.60 
34303 ALAMOSA  10.00 3.05 
34380 MALDIVIAN  14.00 3.97 
34440 SIRMIONE  14.00 3.97 
34453 THESEO  14.00 3.97 
34327 CEST LA GUERRE  21.00 5.57 
34469 ZARITA  21.00 5.57 
34383 MASTER OREILLY  21.00 5.57 
34414 RAHEEB  35.00 8.77 
34350 GALLANT TESS  35.00 8.77

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« 2008-Oct-21, 08:24 PM Reply #2 »
Big fan of the Coup! it's been fantastic last 2 starts and beat the 2nd horse in the cox well, so the form lines right, & like Maldivian at odds to should have taken the 21's yesturday though.

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« 2008-Oct-21, 09:35 PM Reply #3 »
Race 8 TATTS COX PLATE
4.05
Of $3000000 and $50000 trophies. 1st $1800000 and trophies of $38000 to owner $3700 to trainer $4100 to jockey $4200 to strapper, 2nd $440000, 3rd $220000, 4th $130000, 5th $110000, 6th $100000, 7th $100000, 8th $100000.
For Three-Years-Old and Upwards. Standard Weight for Age. (GROUP 1). RECORD: 2040 2-3.54 Might And Power (NZ)
2040 METRES
1 83-686 SIRMIONE 8 Bart Cummings Damien Oliver 59.0
2 324469 MALDIVIAN (NZ) 6 Mark Kavanagh Michael Rodd 59.0
3 1-9-73 ZIPPING 5 John Sadler Danny Nikolic 59.0
4 0-5621 THESEO 12 Gai Waterhouse Nash Rawiller 59.0
5 -8-627 MASTER O'REILLY (NZ) 11 Danny O'Brien Vlad Duric 59.0
6 5-2105 RAHEEB 10 Anthony Cummings 59.0
7 1-4461 ALAMOSA (NZ) 7 Mick Price Craig Newitt 57.5
8 12-794 C'EST LA GUERRE (NZ) 3 John Sadler Steven Arnold 57.5
9 22-911 PRINCESS COUP 9 Mark Walker Opie Bosson 57.0
10 0-2133 GALLANT TESS 4 David Payne Corey Brown 57.0
11 8-8250 ZARITA (NZ) 1 Pat Hyland Dwayne Dunn 55.5
12 1-1111 SAMANTHA MISS 2 Kris Lees Glen Boss 47.5

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« 2008-Oct-21, 09:44 PM Reply #4 »
Raheeb doesn't show a jockey in the Cox Plate but will be ridden by Blake Shinn.  Chris Symons failed in his appeal against an eight meeting suspension.
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« 2008-Oct-25, 08:23 AM Reply #5 »
Backing Maldivian in the COX today, not real confident ... it surely is a very hard race to pick.

Other fancies
Princess Coup
from C'est La Guerre

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« 2008-Oct-25, 03:17 PM Reply #6 »
Well done Magic :beer:

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« 2008-Oct-26, 09:39 AM Reply #7 »
Big fan of the Coup! it's been fantastic last 2 starts and beat the 2nd horse in the cox well, so the form lines right, & like Maldivian at odds to should have taken the 21's yesturday though.


Ah! knew i should have taken the 21's. Ahwell 16's was still good, and ran it into Dark Target, which was quite good in the end as i seeme dto only want to pick places before this race.

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« 2008-Oct-26, 03:22 PM Reply #8 »
Racing Victoria Ltd

The official result of the $3m, Group I, WFA Tatt's Cox Plate (2040m) at Moonee Valley on Saturday.

Race: 8 - Tatts Cox Plate Results: Raced
Form guide: Cox Plate Type: Flat Status: Interim
Distance: 2040 Approximate: No Track Condition: Good 3
Class: Age: 3Up Sex: Min Wgt:
Timing Method: Electronic Time: 2 - 06 . 92 Record: No
Sectional Distance: 600 Sectional Time: 0 - 34 . 20
Comments:

Horse Finished Margin S.P. Weight Jockey Barr Prize Time Horse
Official Decimal Pen Var
02. Maldivian(NZ)
1st $11 59 Michael Rodd 6 Maldivian(NZ)
03. Zipping
2nd 1 1 $7 59 Danny Nikolic 5 Zipping
12. Samantha Miss
3rd Short Neck 1.2 $4.60F 47.5 Glen Boss 2 Samantha Miss
11. Zarita(NZ)
4th Long Neck 1.6 $31 55.5 Dwayne Dunn 1 Zarita(NZ)
04. Theseo
5th 1 1/4 Length 2.85 $16 59 Nash Rawiller 12 Theseo
08. C'est La Guerre(NZ)
6th Neck 3.15 $21 57.5 Steven Arnold 3 C'est La Guerre(NZ)
07. Alamosa(NZ)
7th 1/2 Length 3.65 $11 57.5 Craig Newitt 7 Alamosa(NZ)
10. Gallant Tess
8th Short Neck 3.85 $31 57 Corey Brown 4 Gallant Tess
09. Princess Coup
9th 1 4.85 $4.80 57 Opie Bosson 9 Princess Coup
05. Master O'Reilly(NZ)
10th Head 5.05 $14 59 Vlad Duric 11 Master O'Reilly(NZ)
01. Sirmione
11th Short Neck 5.25 $13 59 Damien Oliver 8 Sirmione
06. Raheeb
12th 1/2 Length 5.75 $41 59 Blake Shinn 10 Raheeb


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« 2008-Oct-26, 03:24 PM Reply #9 »
Racing Victoria Ltd

Racing Victorian stewards report on the Group I Tatt's Cox Plate (2040m) at Moonee Valley on Saturday.


Race 8 - TATTS COX PLATE (Group 1) - 2040 metres: Leaving the home straight on the first occasion Theseo over-raced for some distance before being rest in behind the leader Maldivian (NZ).

Approaching the run near the 1200m Raheeb shifted out momentarily when being restrained off the heels of Theseo and in doing so inconvenienced Samantha Miss which got its head up when being restrained off the heels of Sirmione.

Near the 400m Alamosa (NZ) was tightened for room between Gallant Tessa and Samantha Miss which shifted in before being straightened.

After passing the 400m C'est la Guerre was unable to improve its position when held up until the early part of the straight.

Shortly after entering the straight, C Newitt (Alamosa) momentarily lost the use of his whip before regaining it shortly after.

Raheeb lost its off hind plate during the running of the race.

When questioned, O Bosson (Princess Coup) explained that the mare was not suited by the manner in which the race was run in the early stages and is far better suited with a fast tempo and added that Princess Coup was under pressure at the 600m. A veterinary examination of Princess Coup failed to reveal any abnormality.


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« 2008-Oct-26, 09:36 PM Reply #10 »
This is not one of those "I backed a loser so the whole race was rubbish" posts....

This one of those "What the hell has happened to horse racing in Australia" posts.

No matter which way you slice and dice it the 2008 Cox Plate was an awful race.  If that was the WFA championship of Australia then we are crap.

Dont get me wrong.  I am happy for Maldivian and co.  Its one of the great hard luck stories come good.  But that race looked weak on paper and even worse on the racetrack.

The internationals look to have staked a claim on the Cups.  The WFA races have been so weak that the Oakleigh Plate winner cleaned most of them up before the distance found him out.  Fillies won three of the mainland Derbies last season, and Kiwis won the other two.  The first Australian horse across the line in the Caulfield Cup was Barbaricus, a 100/1 shot.

Maybe we are still in the EI wash, but that excuse is starting to wear thin.  The 4YO's were supposed to be our salvation, but they are all busted. 

Woe, punters, woe.

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« 2008-Oct-27, 11:33 AM Reply #11 »
Obviously i was on the winner so i can't be too disappointed, But it wasn't the best race but Im not a fan of MV anyway, i don't like the way most races are run there, but really the race was just unlucky this year with all the injuries to good horses and the Hussler failing.

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« 2009-Jun-23, 10:11 AM Reply #12 »
Cox Plate To 4.40pm & May Be "Under Lights" in 2012
Meanwhile Moonee Valley Racing Club chief executive Michael Browell confirmed the 2009 Gr1 Cox Plate (2040m) has been moved from its 4.05pm timeslot last year to 4.40pm & "is a step closer to being a night race" reported The Herald-Sun. The newspaper noted: "There is a genuine belief the 2012 Cox Plate will be run under lights at 8.40 or 9pm." Browell said this year's shift is "a step to running a later Cox Plate" adding: "You only have to look at Dubai World Cup night, it's sensational. It's something we will look to do; Moonee Valley's future is more towards a night product. Racing Victoria is keen to see it move to a night-time slot, we're keen to see it move to a night-time slot. I would like to think we'll have a night Cox Plate before we have a night AFL Grand Final." (Jun 23)

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Cox Plate To 4.40pm & May Be "Under Lights" in 2012
Meanwhile Moonee Valley Racing Club chief executive Michael Browell confirmed the 2009 Gr1 Cox Plate (2040m) has been moved from its 4.05pm timeslot last year to 4.40pm & "is a step closer to being a night race" reported The Herald-Sun. The newspaper noted: "There is a genuine belief the 2012 Cox Plate will be run under lights at 8.40 or 9pm." Browell said this year's shift is "a step to running a later Cox Plate" adding: "You only have to look at Dubai World Cup night, it's sensational. It's something we will look to do; Moonee Valley's future is more towards a night product. Racing Victoria is keen to see it move to a night-time slot, we're keen to see it move to  I would like to think we'll have a night Cox Plate before we have a night AFL Grand Final.a night-time slot." (Jun 23)


Neither of these things will happen over my dead body.

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« 2009-Jun-24, 09:36 AM Reply #14 »
$100k Guarantee for Cox Plate International Runners
Melbourne's Moonee Valley Racing Club announced "a guaranteed payment of $100,000 to international runners" for its signature race, the $3 million weight-for-age Gr1 Tatts Cox Plate (2040m) on October 24. Runners "placed down to 8th" will also receive "a minimum of $100,000". The MVRC said it has "developed an International Promotion Fund within its marketing budget that will be allocated to attracting quality international runners to compete against Australasia's leading weight-for-age gallopers over 2040m" & MVRC chairman Bob Scarborough said the "international-runner guarantee" will allow the Cox Plate "to compete for the truly international horses that race at the great carnivals around the world". Scarborough noted: "With the Cox Plate positioned around the same time as the Breeders Cup meeting in America, the club believes the guarantee of $100,000 will greatly assist in attracting some of the best middle distance gallopers in the world to compete at Moonee Valley." (Jun 24)

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« 2009-Jul-06, 01:28 PM Reply #15 »
Pride looking to Plate with Vision
6/07/2009 11:00:00 AM
Rising young Sydney trainer, Joe Pride, is firmly targeting the W.S.Cox Plate (2040m) at Moonee Valley for his Sydney autumn hero, Vision And Power.

 
Formerly trained in Melbourne by Robert Smerdon, when a moderate city performer, Vision And Power has blossomed under Pride's care, and he recorded back-to-back Group 1 wins in the George Ryder Stakes and Doncaster Mile.
 
This morning, when a guest on Sport 927, Pride said Vision And Power had been back in work at his stables for four weeks, and if anything, had improved since the autumn.
 
"There is a good chance he can improve again from what he did in the autumn. The amount of improvement in him from his first prep with me, to the autumn, was fantastic," he said.
 
Pride said Vision And Power, owned by Might And Power's popular owner Nick Moraitis, would resume in the Warwick Stakes (1400m).
 
"He'll have a couple of runs in Sydney, then we will make our way to Melbourne," he added.
 
"The Cox Plate is definitely our altimate aim with the horse. His terrific second in the Queen Elizabeth Stakes over the same distance suggests the distance is suitable as well, and he deserves a crack at a race like the Cox Plate," he added.
 
Pride said the horse had issues in Melbourne, perhaps explaining why he had improved since going to Sydney.
 
"I don't think he dislikes the Melbourne way of going at all. His problems in Melbourne were more about him having a few problems," Pride added.
 
Neale Donnelley

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« 2009-Jul-06, 03:40 PM Reply #16 »
If this wins the Cox Plate they may as well throw the towel in for Australian racing.

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« 2009-Jul-06, 11:54 PM Reply #17 »
If this wins the Cox Plate they may as well throw the towel in for Australian racing.

What chance do you give the likes of Theseo and Tuesdays Joy ?

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« 2009-Jul-08, 12:20 PM Reply #18 »
What chance do you give the likes of Theseo and Tuesdays Joy ?

  emthup

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« 2009-Jul-08, 12:41 PM Reply #19 »
If this wins the Cox Plate they may as well throw the towel in for Australian racing.

Can't believe people are still under-estimating this horse still.

His form was empicable, beat Black Piranha home on more then one occasion, and he ran one of our best horses, Apache Cat to a head in the Doomben 10,000  :confused1:

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« 2009-Jul-08, 12:53 PM Reply #20 »
Interesting that M Kavanagh has the top 2 in some prepost markets.....I wonder will he target the Cox Plate with
Whobegotyou, and train Big Mal for the Cups....could he pull off both?

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« 2009-Jul-08, 12:58 PM Reply #21 »
Id say both would be aimed at the Cox Plate.

Dont think either get further than about 2000m at the top level.

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« 2009-Jul-08, 01:24 PM Reply #22 »
 emthup

If you give them the   emthup  than surely Vision And Power is a chance ?

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« 2009-Jul-08, 04:35 PM Reply #23 »
Can't believe people are still under-estimating this horse still.

His form was empicable, beat Black Piranha home on more then one occasion, and he ran one of our best horses, Apache Cat to a head in the Doomben 10,000  :confused1:

I backed him in the Doncaster - just doesn't look like a Moonee Valley horse to me - struggled when originally in Melbourne - and still just think he is a little short in the class area.

He may prove me wrong in the spring but good luck to him.

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« 2009-Jul-08, 07:45 PM Reply #24 »
I backed him in the Doncaster - just doesn't look like a Moonee Valley horse to me - struggled when originally in Melbourne - and still just think he is a little short in the class area.

He may prove me wrong in the spring but good luck to him.

Cal overall I agree with ya but come on... He is 10 times the horse now than when he was racing in Melb.


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