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Online jfc

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O.P. « 2019-Oct-17, 06:33 PM »
On now 730 NSW time on ABC.

Enjoy.

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« 2019-Oct-17, 07:25 PM Reply #1 »
V'landys certainly got a guernsey.

Seems to me it is not that difficult to track abattoir equine activity. So who's slipped up?

Twitter views fairly clear.

https://twitter.com/hashtag/abc730?src=hash

https://iview.abc.net.au/show/7-30

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« 2019-Oct-17, 08:31 PM Reply #2 »
If it trends, Vlandys will have a fit.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 06:29 AM Reply #3 »
It's out-trending Goldblum which is quite an achievement.

Meanwhile consider V'landys' effort as reported by one outlet under his control.

Who is stupid enough to swallow his crap about being under resourced!

Not only is horse tracking easy it consumes minimal resources.

It costs virtually nothing for an abattoir or sale yard to send even just the unique serial number or brand of every horse processed that day to a national registry.

And no more for V'landys' subjects to immediately follow up on anomalies by registered participants.

Imagine how many of our resources he squanders on battling to deface national monuments.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/7-30-report--the-final-race----racehorses-allegedly-being-illegally-slaughtered-20191017

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« 2019-Oct-18, 06:45 AM Reply #4 »
And on ABC news, right on cue, Racing Australia CEO Barry O'Farrell argues that a national horse registry should be established to help police these practices.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 08:06 AM Reply #5 »
I stated here emphatically years ago that this issue would screw racing, and that we were but one episode of 4 corners , or in this case 7.30, away from total exposure of the farce that is "after racing "care.
And so, the time is here.
Total revamp of numbers, breeding , racing rights and after career care is required.
As usual here, crickets chirp around here,  when we , race lovers, are "busted" for our wilfully ignorance or denial.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 08:54 AM Reply #6 »
Racing Australia's response has this conclusion.

A National Horse Register would fill this gap, allow federal and state authorities access to ownership and location information and help improve equine welfare outcomes nationally.

It could also further strengthen Australia’s biosecurity regime which is critical in reducing the risk of exotic disease and pest outbreaks.


I certainly concur with that, and imagine this would also be helpful in cases of bioterrorism.

But why didn't Racing Australia press for this obvious facility much much earlier?

And why does the Federal government need to wait to be pressed!



https://www.justhorseracing.com.au/news/australian-racing/racing-australia-responds-to-abcs-horse-racing-report/556015

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« 2019-Oct-18, 09:53 AM Reply #7 »
A shocking expose of animal cruelty the ABC 7.30 report is very disturbing ......so far the first to respond from any of the state control bodies  Qld Racing Minister Stirling Hinchcliffe is sending bio security officers to the Caboolture abattoir ......despite the rules and regulations once a horse is sold outside the racing industry to private buyers some possibly affected by drought these people are not subject to the conditions expected of racing personnel.......to be effective inspectors or stewards will now be obliged to attend knackeries and check for freeze branding and/or micro chips on livestock as well as the identity of consignees ......Peter V'Landys at least had the courage to face the camera and attempt to answer her questions ...according to Caro Meldrum Hanna QRIC issued a statement reiterating their welfare policy ...which obviously well intentioned hasn't stopped the slaughter of both harness and thoroughbreds ...in some cases whose flesh is turned into mince to feed the dishlickers...and some exported overseas for human consumption.

Warning very disturbing viewing on the link below.

https://www.abc.net.au/7.30/the-dark-side-of-the-horse-racing-industry/11614022


Giddy Up :beer:

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« 2019-Oct-18, 10:33 AM Reply #8 »
What a load of crap.

If you go home to a steak tonight then don't carry on about horses being killed.

If you have a dog or cat you feed, don't carry on about horses being killed.

If you have ever set a mouse trap, don't carry on about horses being killed.


The more we pander to these beat ups the more ground we lose. Until the  :crap: hits the fan and we end up with someone like Trump in power.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 11:07 AM Reply #9 »
WTF has setting a mouse trap got to do with what we saw last night.?
All sentient beings are up for grabs hey?
A cow is a horse is a mouse is a who cares?
Joe Public will not think like that.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 11:24 AM Reply #10 »

The more we pander to these beat ups the more ground we lose.


 :thumbsup:

I'd love someone to stand up and say it like it is. Yes some horses end up at the knackery, yes we try to minimize it from the industry by XYZ etc. but as long as the animals are dealt with ethically then where's the problem? Push it back and say deal with it.

It's time we pushed back against the 'over reach' into peoples lives.



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« 2019-Oct-18, 12:25 PM Reply #11 »
:thumbsup:

I'd love someone to stand up and say it like it is. Yes some horses end up at the knackery, yes we try to minimize it from the industry by XYZ etc. but as long as the animals are dealt with ethically then where's the problem? Push it back and say deal with it.

It's time we pushed back against the 'over reach' into peoples lives.




I disagree with you. Everest and MC carnival are usually attended by the younger generation and big sponsors. Most of them are against cruelty of any sort to animals even though they usually dine on some of them during the days.

The issues is if racing wants them to attend, they have to pander to them or only have the older generation who can accept knackeries etc as a way of life.

So if you want the money, you pander to the trends of modern society. In a world of influencers etc, Racing has to move with the times or just live in the older world.

Before I get crucified, I do like meat and not a tree hugger but I have to accept life is so different to years ago. Racing has to adapt too.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:15 PM Reply #12 »
In think you misinterpreted Jeunes.

Absolutely we need to do & be seen to be doing the right thing, there is not place for cruelty.

That said what we define as cruelty isn't the same as the 'activists' as their definition is horse racing it's self! We could put in worlds best practice for after career care and they still wouldn't be happy until the racing industry is closed down.  :shutup: These are the same people who think greyhounds are forced to run  :wacko:

Hence the need to stand up and point out what is happening, it's lawful, it's best practice - deal with it. That will win the court of public appeal when you point out the flaws in the 'activists' message.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:19 PM Reply #13 »
After 15 minutes I thought I was watching a well deserved expose of the Abattoir industry.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:25 PM Reply #14 »
Bets practice huh?
You have got to be kidding.
Did you watch the footage closely?
And by the way, it is enquiring "overreach" as you put it, that has stopped many foul evil things happening, all through time and everywhere.
The absolutely ridiculous racing administration's position on this matter is obviously a joke...
Simply deregister as a racehorse, then kill the bugger a week or two later (even if he has won you and your mates thousands).
Good look ain't it..
So, the answer is honesty hey, push back huh?...perhaps big banners on Melb cup day stating warning "the racehorse you fall in love with this arvo may or may not be killed in a month if it fails or gets injured."
That will help...a disclaimer, so we are all clear about things and harden the xxck up..
No idea.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:55 PM Reply #15 »
What a load of crap.

If you go home to a steak tonight then don't carry on about horses being killed.

If you have a dog or cat you feed, don't carry on about horses being killed.

If you have ever set a mouse trap, don't carry on about horses being killed.


The more we pander to these beat ups the more ground we lose. Until the  :crap: hits the fan and we end up with someone like Trump in power.


Exactly, we’ll put

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:57 PM Reply #16 »
:thumbsup:

I'd love someone to stand up and say it like it is. Yes some horses end up at the knackery, yes we try to minimize it from the industry by XYZ etc. but as long as the animals are dealt with ethically then where's the problem? Push it back and say deal with it.

It's time we pushed back against the 'over reach' into peoples lives.


 :clap2:

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« 2019-Oct-18, 04:58 PM Reply #17 »
In think you misinterpreted Jeunes.

Absolutely we need to do & be seen to be doing the right thing, there is not place for cruelty.

That said what we define as cruelty isn't the same as the 'activists' as their definition is horse racing it's self! We could put in worlds best practice for after career care and they still wouldn't be happy until the racing industry is closed down.  :shutup: These are the same people who think greyhounds are forced to run  :wacko:

Hence the need to stand up and point out what is happening, it's lawful, it's best practice - deal with it. That will win the court of public appeal when you point out the flaws in the 'activists' message.


Again :clap2:  :clap2: :clap2:

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« 2019-Oct-18, 05:02 PM Reply #18 »

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« 2019-Oct-18, 05:03 PM Reply #19 »
I heard it and agree with PV totally.

The story, as usual was a political beat up from the animal welfare mob. They’re are a disgrace

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« 2019-Oct-18, 05:14 PM Reply #20 »
If you want to slaughter a NSW racehorse then all you need to do is deregister it.

Perhaps on sell it to a slaughterer just to be safe.

You're comfortable with that?

If so, maybe you also live in the duo's Fantasyland.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 06:12 PM Reply #21 »
Bets practice huh?
You have got to be kidding.
Did you watch the footage closely?
And by the way, it is enquiring "overreach" as you put it, that has stopped many foul evil things happening, all through time and everywhere.
The absolutely ridiculous racing administration's position on this matter is obviously a joke...
Simply deregister as a racehorse, then kill the bugger a week or two later (even if he has won you and your mates thousands).
Good look ain't it..
So, the answer is honesty hey, push back huh?...perhaps big banners on Melb cup day stating warning "the racehorse you fall in love with this arvo may or may not be killed in a month if it fails or gets injured."
That will help...a disclaimer, so we are all clear about things and harden the xxck up..
No idea.

Shogun I suggest you take a few deep breaths and reread what I said.

Yes it is over reach in the biggest possible way, wanting something banned by meddling in the lives of others (law abiding citizens) simply because you don't like it will never get you anywhere.  :bulb:


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« 2019-Oct-18, 06:19 PM Reply #22 »
If you want to slaughter a NSW racehorse then all you need to do is deregister it.

Perhaps on sell it to a slaughterer just to be safe.

You're comfortable with that?

If so, maybe you also live in the duo's Fantasyland.


So that was the crux of the story from your view?

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« 2019-Oct-18, 06:50 PM Reply #23 »
No, I'm explaining V'landys' cop out.

My opinions on the program were posted here as the story developed.

That a national registry is needed to properly regulate the policies.

Note, that both Racing Australia, as well as the Breeders Association concur with me.

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« 2019-Oct-18, 07:10 PM Reply #24 »
You’ve always had a beef against PV and I suspect you’re using that in this case


The “slant” of the story was part of an on going attack on the racing industry. It was an absolute nonsense


The real issue was the disgusting treatment of the horses by the turds working in the abattoir

Like those low life mongrals who ran down Roos and wombats in the past month

Closing down the industry, which is their goal, is not the issue. Address the filthy merkins doing the wrong thing
« Last Edit: 2019-Oct-18, 07:11 PM by wily ole dog »


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