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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2020-Mar-03, 10:33 PM Reply #475 »
Not so sure about that nemisis. Surely all the evidence gathered and time lines of when & if will come into question, mightn't portray the ABC in the greatest light and the whole agenda that was driven.

I returned my ATC membership because of PV but I'm with him on this one.

Yes I'm dying to see the ABC explain the paradox of showing a program to protect the welfare of horses, but elongating the suffering at Meramist because they didn't notify the RSPCA immediately just so they could hold off running the show until the eve of The Everest.

They are going to look like evil people who put their journalistic narcissism ahead of the welfare of horses.

I reckon they will settle before it gets into the public courts to save face.

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« 2020-Mar-03, 11:20 PM Reply #476 »
Yes I'm dying to see the ABC explain the paradox of showing a program to protect the welfare of horses, but elongating the suffering at Meramist because they didn't notify the RSPCA immediately just so they could hold off running the show until the eve of The Everest.

They are going to look like evil people who put their journalistic narcissism ahead of the welfare of horses.

I reckon they will settle before it gets into the public courts to save face.

Interesting test case on a few fronts. Who has the nerve to hold on till court time?

V’Landys will be a busy man this year with his Racing NSW and NRL commitments plus his lawsuit now.

On bright side, more accountability for both sides.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 08:54 AM Reply #477 »
Not so sure about that nemisis. Surely all the evidence gathered and time lines of when & if will come into question, mightn't portray the ABC in the greatest light and the whole agenda that was driven.

I returned my ATC membership because of PV but I'm with him on this one.
Have you actually 'sat through' the complete program yet, Gintara.

It was a tough watch for this thoroughbred loving boy, I can tell you.....but I did and without any distractions.

Of all the cruelty and the massive disposal of unwanted horses we saw, the only 'rules' of racing that were being breached were the RNSW's rules.

That was the case against RNSW.
So when the cock-sure CEO was confronted with evidence on national TV and was so quickly set back on his heels...... he wants to sue for his shortcomings.
RNSW's welfare rules were too silly for words, couldn't possibly be policed and just shifted the problem of racing's over breeding to other states.

At no point did the program suggest  that V'Landys was responsible for the cruelty at Meramist......just pointed out he should have been aware that NSW horses were being put through that shit hole. Lets not even mention Camden Sales......one quick look at the dogger's trucks in the car park tell the picture of what was going on there

I'm not going to watch it again to confirm this but V'Landys was only on for a few minutes I think .
Hard to work out what the driving force behind this move is.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 09:41 AM Reply #478 »
The ABC will do as they have always done. Whatever is politically best for the ALP.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 09:53 AM Reply #479 »
The ABC will do as they have always done. Whatever is politically best for the ALP.

What utter bullshit.

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« 2020-Mar-04, 11:56 AM Reply #480 »
The ABC will do as they have always done. Whatever is politically best for the ALP.

I can’t see any link to this report and Labor Party.

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« 2020-Mar-06, 12:22 PM Reply #481 »
My mistake. I am sure they will continue with their completely unbiased commentary   :lol:

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« 2020-Mar-06, 01:01 PM Reply #482 »
My mistake. I am sure they will continue with their completely unbiased commentary    :lol:

That is why I like News Corp and ABC. They are the bastions of unbiased journalism.

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« 2020-May-25, 04:49 PM Reply #483 »
Racing NSW's Dedicated Equine Welfare Vet Keeping An Eye On Retired Racehorses

By Julieanne Horsman

If you’ve recently rehomed an off the track Thoroughbred from New South Wales, you can expect a house call from Dr Carly Garling in the near future. The dedicated equine welfare veterinarian is one of two appointed by Racing NSW specifically to monitor retired racehorses in their new homes.

Dr Carly Garling is one of Racing NSW’s equine welfare veterinarians.

Each day Racing Australia updates its database of retired racehorses including their new location and person responsible for their welfare. From that, Dr Garling chooses a handful of horses from a similar area and phones their new owners to arrange a time to visit.

“It’s important that these horses are where the previous owner has declared they are,” she said. “We also ensure they are receiving adequate care.”

Every inspection includes a microchip scan, basic examination of the horse and an assessment of its surroundings. The vet will talk to the new owner about their plans for the horse and address any queries or concerns either party has.

“Thoroughbred owners need not be scared of us,” Dr Garling said. “We’re not out to take anyone’s horses. Most people are doing the right thing which is great to see. Sometimes you might find a horse lacking a bit of condition but that can be managed. The most common mistake people make is thinking grass will be enough for their Thoroughbred.”

Dr Garling recommends finding out your horse’s previous diet and routine and gradually adjusting it.

“Off the track Thoroughbreds are accustomed to being hand-fed every meal, regularly given fresh water and rugged daily,” she said. “It may sound silly but retired racehorses may not know how to drink from a dam and if it’s their only option in a paddock there could be serious consequences.”

Carly in action on her first Thoroughbred, Tennant Creek.

As part of her role, Dr Garling also investigates reports of neglect and concerns for welfare. She urges anyone who finds themselves in a situation where they are struggling to care for their horse to contact Team Thoroughbred for help. If need be, Thoroughbreds which have spent most of the life in NSW can be surrendered to Team Thoroughbred where they will be cared for, retrained and rehomed.

Dr Garling joined Team Thoroughbred NSW, Racing NSW’s equine welfare division, at the start of 2020 having done casual work at the races for the past three and a half years while also operating her own private practice in Wollondilly Shire. She is a talented rider herself and competed in one-star eventing from the age of 18 on an off the track Thoroughbred named Tennant Creek. The big chestnut gelding was originally trained at Hawkesbury by Michael Wilson and Dean Tanti piloted him to his one and only race victory at Goulburn in August 1998.

“When the opportunity came up to work with Team Thoroughbred I jumped at it,” she said. “Having grown up riding off the track Thoroughbreds it was a passion of mine I had to follow.

“The best part of my job is seeing these horses in a new home where they are loved and appreciated for a completely different reason to being a racehorse. There is so much value in a Thoroughbred. They’re beautiful, versatile horses that come with exceptional training.”

Minimum Standards and guidelines for equine welfare can be found here

https://www.racingnsw.com.au/news/latest-racing-news/equine-welfare-important-notice-to-industry-participants/

 
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« 2020-May-26, 09:52 AM Reply #484 »
Horses don't know how to drink out of a dam???? You're right it does sound silly.

If you've recently re-homed a thoroughbred don't answer Dr Carly's call, you could be in for a lot of grief!!


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« 2020-May-27, 08:07 AM Reply #485 »
Horses don't know how to drink out of a dam???? You're right it does sound silly.

If you've recently re-homed a thoroughbred don't answer Dr Carly's call, you could be in for a lot of grief!!
"may not know' is what she said Napes.
Your bifocals look like they need demisting as well.
Dr Carly is from these parts and the couple of horsey people around here I know, speak highly of her.

All that aside what a lot of fluffy nonsense from the RNSW own media arm.
Could not be a more uncertain time for a thoroughbred on the planet than right now.

The online auction results show what is really happening.......far too many thoroughbreds are unwanted... bailiff sales, horses sold under the agistment act would never have been higher.....that's what is going on.

A problem so big that all the racing industry can do is pretend it isn't happening.
Hard to picture just where horse racing will be even in 5 years.
NZ would surely have had the curtain drawn if Winston Peters did not hold some sway there.......surely the last time taxpayers will be expected to prop up racing there.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/sport/racing/300016801/anger-at-winston-peters-make-racing-great-again-leads-to-petition-against-government-funding-for-racing-industry
 
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« 2020-May-28, 12:30 PM Reply #486 »
I would think in the all tote environment of New Zealand, racing has been propping up the taxpayers for quite a few years!

Racing will survive. As will KFC.

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« 2020-May-28, 02:05 PM Reply #487 »
I'd say racing in NZ is gone.

One race meeting in NZ (only one on) just before Covid 19 at Rotorua, had either 6 or 7 races all worth 10k (total stake), 42 acceptors.......petrol at $3.00 per litre and all the other costs make it completely unviable......your horse could run a place and you could still be behind cost wise.

Can't possibly sustain itself and won't be saved by shutting down country tracks,building a couple of synthetic tracks or by Winston Peters Political party.

The big Gov. handout has only been counter productive for the struggling industry.....people who normally couldn't care less about racing just resent the leg up.
The horse welfare eyes are on racing there big time, as well as the goings-on of the big donors(breeders) behind NZ First Foundation.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/in-depth/409320/nz-first-foundation-received-tens-of-thousands-of-dollars-from-donors-in-horse-racing-industry


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« 2020-Jun-01, 11:02 AM Reply #488 »
This is how tough it is for NZ racing......it's gone!

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/nz-newspaper-formguides-chopped-for-restart-20200531

The old school punters who would be keeping the stuttering racing game alive in NZ have to cop this.


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« 2020-Jun-03, 10:30 AM Reply #489 »
You are starting to sound a bit like Mr Mair.

There are plenty of race meetings in Australia where you could run a place and be behind cost wise. Owning racehorses is certainly not a sound investment. We do it because we love it and will continue to do so.






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« 2020-Jun-03, 11:49 AM Reply #490 »
As long as I sound like someone who cares about thoroughbreds first and foremost Napes, I couldn't care less who I sound like after that.  emthup

I'd say NZ racing is running out of Napes........going to take Australia a little longer to reach the same point.

Winston Peters, with his pockets full of taxpayers money has declared he will  "make NZ racing great again"   :lol:   :lol:

Hope you look after your ex-racers, Napes.

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« 2020-Jun-03, 02:01 PM Reply #491 »
As long as you care about all animals in the same regard you will have respect from me.

It's the hypocrites that think because you give an animal a name it deserves a better life than others, that earn my derision.

I look after all my animals.

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« 2020-Jul-12, 06:27 PM Reply #492 »
Chief ‘hurt’ at footage
THE boss of Racing NSW was shocked and “hurt” when he tuned in to see horrific footage of retired racehorses being slaughtered – spliced with an interview he had done in good faith – a court has heard.

Peter V’landys is suing the ABC and a journalist in the Federal Court for defamation following an episode of 7.30, which he claims painted him as though he “callously permitted the wholesale slaughter” of horses. He is seeking aggravated damages over the segment titled The Final Race, which aired in October 2019.

Lawyers previously told the court the national broadcaster did not disclose to Mr V’landys it had obtained the footage before he fronted an interview for the program.

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Buried away in the CM...... not given any prominence .......I don't fancy his chances if he was only "shocked and hurt"........his feelings should have improved considerably after being headhunted to head up the ARL....... a high profile position  which doesn't fit with satisfying the defamation laws that the ABC program  brought his reputation into public disrepute, ridicule and contempt ......that's my observation.

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« 2020-Jul-12, 07:43 PM Reply #493 »
Charges laid over alleged retired racehorse slaughter scandal
Charges laid over alleged retired racehorse slaughter scandalPhoto: ABC/twitter.
Ben DorriesArticle Author
Ben Dorries
9:50AM12 July 2020
It was a shocking bombshell dropped on the Australian racing industry last year when the ABC's 7.30 Report aired its undercover investigation into ex-racehorses allegedly being slaughtered.

And there has been further developments with three people charged with offences.

The charges were laid after the ABC aired sickening footage in October 2019 of horses allegedly being mistreated at Queensland's Meramist Abattoir slaughterhouse in Caboolture, north of Brisbane.

Biosecurity Queensland says three workers from a Caboolture abattoir were facing a total of seven charges under the Animal Care and Protection Act, as well as failures to comply with regulations on animal care and protection.

The distressing footage shown last year prompted several high-level investigations that led to reforms to ensure retired animals are properly treated once they leave the industry.

A Queensland inquiry sparked by the Meramist incident led to a requirement that owners make two genuine attempts to rehome retiring racehorses before sending them to slaughter.

It found the management of racehorses as a disposable commodity was unethical and not aligned with community expectations.

But it also found that the racing industry couldn't be held accountable for the lifelong welfare of retired horses once their racing and breeding careers were over.

Meanwhile, Racing NSW CEO Peter V’landys was “greatly injured” when the ABC spliced “disturbing footage” of horse mistreatment with an interview with him, a court heard last week.

V’landys is suing the ABC and journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna for defamation in the Federal Court after the 7.30 Report which he claims painted him as though he “callously permitted the wholesale slaughter” of horses.

Barrister Sue Chrysanthou, acting for V’landys, told the court last week that evidence for the NSW Racing chief executive’s aggravated damages claim had now been served.

Ms Chrysanthou said the claim for aggravated damages was “pretty straightforward”.

“What we say really is that the preparation of the program was a matter that gives rise to aggravation,” she said.

“It contains some pretty disturbing footage of horses being mistreated. That footage is interwoven with an interview my client consented to.

“The ABC and the journalist had that footage, and intended to use that footage, and intended to do so interwoven with the interview with my client and didn’t show it to him.

“It’s the hurt arising from that.”

V'landys' lawyers argue the segment defamed him and brought his reputation into public disrepute, ridicule and contempt as it depicted him as someone who was ignoring horse deaths.

The ABC is standing by its report and will defend the proceedings.

Ben DorriesArticle Author
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« 2020-Jul-14, 10:26 AM Reply #494 »
Ben Dorries' piece might serve his masters at RNSW well but does lack a bit of balance.
By all means put a statement in from V'Landys Barrister but balance it with a statement from the ABC Barrister......which was.....P V'Landys aggravated damages claims were served 3 weeks after the agreed date  "Woefully late"and were" inaccurate".

Ben needs to do a bit of work on his "reforms to ensure retired racehorses are treated properly" as well.
The mares, fillies and colts from Hardwicke Stud NSW at Meramist awaiting slaughter were not "retired stock"....they were unwanted stock.

As a former CEO of the NSW Harness industry, for P V'Landys to say he was "greatly injured" by the footage is too silly for words.
If the only buyer of magnificent Starspangledbanner stallion, National Flag, is a dogger, what chance does a boofheaded Standardbred have?

Anyway for the horse lovers among us I suppose we can take some comfort that the walls of the kill box at Meramist have been raised. :shrug:
At least the racehorse, the herd animal that it is, does not have to watch his buddies from the thoroughbred industry being bolted.
One tiny reform which was a long, long time coming and all down to one report on the ABC.

I hope RNSW compliance team are paying close attention to the world of on-line auctions......seems to be a lot of unwanted stock out there. :sad:

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« 2020-Jul-16, 12:22 PM Reply #495 »
As long as they are not paying close attention to the supermarket catalogues.

Seems to be a lot of animal products in them.

Maybe they all died of natural causes  :what:

The Mares Fillies and Colts at Meramist weren't unwanted stock, they were wanted by the pet food industry to feed the millions of Australian dogs and cats that refuse to become vegan. I guess they can still eat kangaroo, Skippy is the only one with a name there.

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« 2020-Jul-16, 01:32 PM Reply #496 »
It’s certainly a dilemma. I understand why horses end up at the sales.

 I’ve got a 20yo broodmare in a paddock costING me $600 a month as the rest of the syndicate have dropped out.
No point getting her in foal again as what do I do with that resulting foal? It’s certainly not commercial so no one will want in on it
It could end up costing me another 10k to 15k. That’s a shit load of money I don’t have to spare🥵

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« 2020-Jul-16, 01:59 PM Reply #497 »
You need to read the statement from Hardwicke Stud Napes.
It's on here......along the lines of "middle market collapsed" ....."couldn't even give them away"....that makes them unwanted in my book :yes:

You need to brush up on what exactly Meramist is as well.
It's an abattoir which exports horse meat to Europe......not a knackery.

I get your message that you are ok with untried thoroughbreds being sent to slaughter......go forth now and spread the word.
They were after all bred for the thoroughbred industry and not the European horse meat market.
Good luck finding the sponsors racing so desperately needs selling that one.
https://www.breednet.com.au/news/8441/abc-responds-to-racing-nsw-statement-

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« 2020-Jul-16, 10:00 PM Reply #498 »

You need to brush up on what exactly Meramist is as well.
It's an abattoir which exports horse meat to Europe......not a knackery.



Setting aside the treatment of the animals, why is it wrong to export horse meat for human consumption?


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« 2020-Jul-16, 10:05 PM Reply #499 »
It’s not


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