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Offline Bubbasmith

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O.P. « 2014-Jan-28, 08:05 AM »
In the Australia Day awards Peter V'Landys ,CEO of Racing NSW, received the award Order of Australia for services to racing.In an interview on RSN this morning he went on the front foot when asked by host. Shane Anderson, wheher he thought a reduction in deduction rates was justified in view of the migration of punting away from racing to sports betting. Without hesitation V'Landys responded "no"  because all "us " punters lose 20% on our turmover ( where he plucked that figure I do not know, but I will leave you to reach your own conclusion ) and  the only beneficiaries of any reduction in the commission rates would be professional punters, who according to an earlier statement he had made in  the interview " had inside information".

If this bloke can get a gong for his confused reasoning there is hope for us mere mortals. :shy:

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« 2014-Jan-28, 09:45 AM Reply #1 »
exactly what has he done to deserve it?

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« 2014-Jan-28, 08:01 PM Reply #2 »
Trumpeted to anyone that would listen how much funding he secured for the 'participants' (that word again)  :shutup:

Still I reckon a straw poll would show that the majority would believe they have seen little of the rivers of gold flow  :rolleyes:

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« 2014-Jan-29, 07:53 PM Reply #3 »


What did PVL say   -- is there an internet link to a record of the interview, please?

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« 2014-Jan-29, 07:59 PM Reply #4 »
Did you even try to find it? Or do you just expect to be spoon fed everything .....

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« 2014-Jan-29, 08:02 PM Reply #5 »
http://www.rsn.net.au/downloads

One of the 28th Jan's on 'Racing Ahead'


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« 2014-Jan-30, 07:54 AM Reply #6 »


The jury is still out on PVL -- premature awards to on-the-job executive officials raise concerns

Thank you for the link to an interview that few would either be aware of or where to find it -- this interview is not posted on the RacingNSW web site. It is significant that there was very little mainstream racing media coverage of this award.

There are no indiscreet questions -- but there can be indiscreet and inappropriate answers.

Accordingly, my primary concerns with this 'gong' are first that the apparent emphasis on 'how much he raised for racing' surely has more to do with who gave the money and why -- rather than who simply asked for it.  Levy legislation was drafted on instructions approved by cabinet which similarly approved proposals for the other grant 'expenditures'.

On that score, it is surely the responsible politicians and departmental advisers that are entitled to the credit (or the blame). One corollary of that concern is, of course, that honouring the questioner deflects criticism from the answers given -- from the process that decided NSW racing was entitled to such lavish additional funding from the public purse.

Whatever, the flow of additional public money to racing in NSW in recent years has been simply astounding:  asking for it is one thing, the giving of it is where the focus should lie  -- and time should be allowed to consider the benefit, or not, of the expenditure before it is applauded by the wider community.

One might also ask who nominated PVL for this accolade and what was said then and by other nominated referees.

On a different tack, but equally important, PVL is never held properly accountable for the answers he gives to sensibly predictable questions. The RSN interviewer was well briefed, and competently persistent, but, short of an outright dismissal of the sense of PVL's answers, not much more could be done on air.

The related worry is that no one goes back to dissect the answers and expose any fallacious reasoning  -- and this is not the first time -- evidence given to public inquiries has been similarly of concern, transcribed for all to see but left unremarked.

Astounding as this may be, it is also indicative that no insider beneficiaries of the unholy monopolistic alliance running racing want to open the box -- to expose the genies that see punters and owners routinely exploited with varying degrees of brutality disguised by a deceptive line of patter.

For just one example, the apparently accepted misuse off the word 'quality' in relation to the racing product being delivered daily would leave a George Orwell speechless.

There is a very evident discontinuity between PVL's competence in explaining the policy decisions and his applauded role in driving a fund raising campaign that leaves others astounded.

The eventual expose of the nonsense inherent in Australian racing nationally will presumably await some federally sponsored public inquiry -- but the national calamity in the industry needed to deliver that is still some time off.

In the meantime one would be sensibly wary of applauding those deemed responsible for the current pyramid building excesses.


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« 2014-Jan-30, 01:59 PM Reply #7 »
Thank you for the link to an interview that few would either be aware of or where to find it -- this interview is not posted on the RacingNSW web site. It is significant that there was very little mainstream racing media coverage of this award.

exactly what racing media do you listen to and read?

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« 2014-Jan-30, 04:45 PM Reply #8 »
wasnt on the front page of racenet?


also he said punters wouldnt know the diff between 20% and 30% commission, that lower takeouts help the pros only... what a joke racing is that this guy has a job

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« 2014-Jan-30, 06:50 PM Reply #9 »


Understanding honorifics -- a report on Ninemsn [ with my bolding] is illustrative



Racing NSW CEO recognised with award                              [Caryl Williamson, Ninemsn Jan 26 2014]


In a decade at the helm of the NSW racing industry, Peter V'landys has overseen some of the most tumultuous events to strike the sport.

The chief executive of Racing NSW has been recognised for his efforts to ensure the future of the state's industry, including the delivery of a rescue package during the equine influenza (EI) outbreak, and the successful court battle over race fields legislation.

V'landys has been appointed a Member of Order of Australia (AM), something he describes as "surreal".

The unprecedented infiltration of EI into Australia via inadequate quarantine procedures in August 2007, shut racing down in NSW and Queensland and closed the border with Victoria.

During a time of uncertainty, V'landys negotiated a $235 million rescue package with the federal government to enable stables to remain open and horses to continue to be trained, ensuring an income for the 50,000 participants.

"It meant the horses were kept fit and when racing came back we were ready to go," V'landys said.

"I remember the day of the first meeting back so well, December 1st. It was one of the most rewarding days I have spent on a racecourse - just to see the horses back and racing."

Then prime minister John Howard has congratulated V'landys on his AM.

"... I particularly recall the crucial advice he provided to my government at the time of the equine influenza outbreak in August 2007," he said.

"Peter's advice profoundly influenced my government's response, and as a consequence what could have become a real disaster for the industry was avoided."

V'landys led a protracted legal fight to gain product fees for the industry under race fields legislation, eventually winning the battle to ensure corporate bookmakers paid for access to NSW racing, guaranteeing the industry $60 million a year.

V'landys said he owed his work ethic to his Greek migrant parents who settled in Wollongong where he went to public school before getting his Bachelor of Commerce at Wollongong University.

"I owe it all to my mother and father," he said.

"As migrants in a new country they worked 18 hour days to educate their children.

"I have loved racing since I was 10 years old and I am lucky to be working in the industry."

V'landys said he would spend Australia Day with his family, savouring his achievement.

"The only thing I've ever won before was best and fairest with the Under-13s Wests Devils rugby league team in Wollongong," he said.

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« 2014-Jan-30, 07:12 PM Reply #10 »

Understanding honorifics -- a report on Ninemsn [ with my bolding] is illustrative



Racing NSW CEO recognised with award                              [Caryl Williamson, Ninemsn Jan 26 2014]


In a decade at the helm of the NSW racing industry, Peter V'landys has overseen some of the most tumultuous events to strike the sport.

The chief executive of Racing NSW has been recognised for his efforts to ensure the future of the state's industry, including the delivery of a rescue package during the equine influenza (EI) outbreak, and the successful court battle over race fields legislation.

V'landys has been appointed a Member of Order of Australia (AM), something he describes as "surreal".

The unprecedented infiltration of EI into Australia via inadequate quarantine procedures in August 2007, shut racing down in NSW and Queensland and closed the border with Victoria.

During a time of uncertainty, V'landys negotiated a $235 million rescue package with the federal government to enable stables to remain open and horses to continue to be trained, ensuring an income for the 50,000 participants.

"It meant the horses were kept fit and when racing came back we were ready to go," V'landys said.

"I remember the day of the first meeting back so well, December 1st. It was one of the most rewarding days I have spent on a racecourse - just to see the horses back and racing."

Then prime minister John Howard has congratulated V'landys on his AM.

"... I particularly recall the crucial advice he provided to my government at the time of the equine influenza outbreak in August 2007," he said.

"Peter's advice profoundly influenced my government's response, and as a consequence what could have become a real disaster for the industry was avoided."

V'landys led a protracted legal fight to gain product fees for the industry under race fields legislation, eventually winning the battle to ensure corporate bookmakers paid for access to NSW racing, guaranteeing the industry $60 million a year.

V'landys said he owed his work ethic to his Greek migrant parents who settled in Wollongong where he went to public school before getting his Bachelor of Commerce at Wollongong University.

"I owe it all to my mother and father," he said.

"As migrants in a new country they worked 18 hour days to educate their children.

"I have loved racing since I was 10 years old and I am lucky to be working in the industry."

V'landys said he would spend Australia Day with his family, savouring his achievement.

"The only thing I've ever won before was best and fairest with the Under-13s Wests Devils rugby league team in Wollongong," he said.


Another Wollongong fellow...great people they are....

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« 2014-Feb-01, 06:51 AM Reply #11 »
For the last decade both Corporates and Sports have been gaining ~10% annually over Tabcorp et al.

Sports would be way bigger if ever the draconian restrictions were ever to be lifted.

That's before we ever consider unlicensed betting facilities.

He rabbits on about Vanuatu.

While facilitating Northern Vanautu. Aka Isle Of Man.

He shafts the rank and file punter even more with usurious Rake Hikes.

While reducing Rakes for the Leviathans.

Because he's too dumb to realise that there's no need for such largesse, as the pests would still keep crushing markets here regardless!
« Last Edit: 2014-May-15, 05:38 PM by jfc »

Offline Peter Mair

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« 2014-Feb-01, 07:34 AM Reply #12 »


When did John Howard start taking an interest in NSW racing administrators?

The idea that John Howard would volunteer support for a state racing administrator fired my imagination.
 
Connecting dots, in the presumably secret process of deciding national honorifics, many might see the hand of the federal coalition party establishment -- not least the Jesuit-educated mafia member and former LNP minister now ceo of the Australian Racing Board.

Presumably he can round up former and present prime ministers to support the cause.

It would be wonderful to see the official file on this matter -- and related emails.


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« 2014-Feb-01, 08:04 AM Reply #13 »
not least the Jesuit-educated mafia member and former LNP minister now ceo of the Australian Racing Board.

Just figured it might be legally prudent to remove any association to the previous post.  :chin:
« Last Edit: 2014-Feb-01, 09:59 AM by Maximus »

Offline Runway

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« 2014-Feb-01, 08:28 AM Reply #14 »
Can I suggest some people take care in what they are saying - there are some claims that could easily be acted upon as they are baseless and more significantly likely libellous

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« 2014-Feb-01, 08:58 AM Reply #15 »


Read -- Jesuit-educated-mafia  --- as I am sure you did.

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« 2014-Feb-01, 09:04 AM Reply #16 »


...........and from a simple google:

Jesuit Mafia

People that attended a Jesuit school and receive job opportunities and favors from another who attended a Jesuit school. It is a known common practice in the Northeast, as well as California. Schools noted for their Jesuit Mafia connections include Georgetown, Marquette, Boston College, Loyola Marymount, Santa Clara, University of San Francisco, Gonzaga, Xavier, and Creighton.


Try to keep your eye on the ball

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« 2014-Feb-01, 09:36 AM Reply #17 »
And this one... :sweat:
« Last Edit: 2014-Feb-01, 10:00 AM by Maximus »

Offline Runway

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« 2014-Feb-01, 10:05 AM Reply #18 »
Hi Maximus

Did you read Jesuit -educated - mafia or Jesuit-educated mafia.

Funny how just a little '-' can change the whole  intent.


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« 2014-Feb-01, 10:07 AM Reply #19 »
Just figured it might be legally prudent to remove any association to the previous post.  :chin:

Very smart move I'd say

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« 2014-Feb-01, 10:09 AM Reply #20 »

Try to keep your eye on the ball

  :lol:

As opposed to what? Like you having never seen the ball?

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« 2014-Feb-02, 05:36 PM Reply #21 »
http://www.thedogs.com.au/NewsArticle.aspx?NewsId=4739

I wonder if there might be a re-think on gross profits Vs turnover tax after seeing it action?

Maximus

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« 2014-Feb-02, 06:57 PM Reply #22 »
Hi Maximus

Did you read Jesuit -educated - mafia or Jesuit-educated mafia.

Funny how just a little '-' can change the whole  intent.

Hi Runway, sorry just caught up with your post. Yep the strategically placed "-" makes all the difference!

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« 2014-Feb-02, 07:02 PM Reply #23 »
so he would spend money on a lawsuit over something on the internet.

how about actually doing something. another job for the boys. gets a medal for  :censored: ing us rank and file punters.


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« 2014-Mar-03, 01:48 PM Reply #24 »


APOLOGY TO PETER VíLANDYS


I have been asked, and so agree, to cease making defamatory statements about Peter Vílandys in any online or other forum and to post the following apology on this forum (www.racehorsetalk.com.au) where the statements appeared.

I previously made some statements criticising Peter VíLandys in his role as CEO of RacingNSW.
Those statements were without foundation. I wish to sincerely apologise to Peter Vílandys for any hurt or embarrassment my statements caused him, and I acknowledge the good work he continues to do as CEO, as well as his many contributions to the racing industry for which he so deservedly received the Order od Australia.


Peter Mair
3 March 2014



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