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Offline Gintara

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« 2014-Mar-04, 07:27 PM Reply #25 »
Asked or demanded?  :whistle:

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« 2014-Mar-04, 07:53 PM Reply #26 »


APOLOGY TO PETER VíLANDYS


I have been asked, and so agree, to cease making defamatory statements about Peter Vílandys in any online or other forum and to post the following apology on this forum (www.racehorsetalk.com.au) where the statements appeared.

I previously made some statements criticising Peter VíLandys in his role as CEO of RacingNSW.
Those statements were without foundation. I wish to sincerely apologise to Peter Vílandys for any hurt or embarrassment my statements caused him, and I acknowledge the good work he continues to do as CEO, as well as his many contributions to the racing industry for which he so deservedly received the Order od Australia.


Peter Mair
3 March 2014



Yes Peter you are out of order....but you have been that for a long Time and you did not listen ....so we silence from now....that would be the right thing.

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« 2014-Mar-04, 09:11 PM Reply #27 »
I put him on ignore ages ago.

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« 2014-Mar-13, 07:41 AM Reply #28 »
"I wept uncontrollably when, now, the adult Peter, warned against the sins of taking gambling on the horses seriously, and took pains to point out that no one gets rich from what is known as punting."

An interesting snippet while I was trying to locate transcripts of the interview in question.

And only found it just now.

With such mind-boggling displays of his suitability for being awarded honours, V'landys has certainly set the bar extremely high, for anyone attempting to lessen his reputation even further.

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/superracing/plunging-on-sports-affecting-race-betting-increasing-chance-of-levy-for-corporate-bookies/story-fnii0mrv-1226816117607

http://racingbitch.wordpress.com/2014/01/30/the-resurrection-of-peter-vlandys/

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« 2014-Mar-13, 11:42 AM Reply #29 »
Just noted that it's been 10 days since peter mair posted anything. Has he gone to ground deliberately or pushed under?

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« 2014-Mar-13, 02:44 PM Reply #30 »
Nah, just been told "unless you have anything good to say............."

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« 2014-Mar-13, 08:51 PM Reply #31 »
Nah, just been told "unless you have anything good to say............."

RNSW don't take kindly to those who question  :/

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« 2014-Mar-13, 11:16 PM Reply #32 »
I hope Peter Mair hasn't given it away.


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« 2014-Mar-14, 04:52 AM Reply #33 »
V'Landys has always had a litigious mindset. When he worked at Harold Park he often had multiple court cases on the go.

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« 2014-Mar-14, 07:43 AM Reply #34 »

Earlier this week I opened a curious-looking letter.

From someone claiming to act on behalf of Mr Peter V'Landys.

Near the top was:

PRIVATE & CONFIDENTIAL

I suspect that, like me, many here would not have known what that means. Now that I've taken simple steps to find out, it appears to border on meaningless, and I'm puzzled why anyone would even waste time stating that.

Now while I have no intention of currently publishing the full contents, I'm referring to certain parts of it here, as I believe doing so is in the public interest.

Immediately preceding that above line was:

NOT FOR PUBLICATION

I have idea what that could possibly mean, considering that there is no signed contract agreeing to observe such an edict.

But now it gets really weird .

Because the letter also has a demand to immediately publish certain paragraphs of the NOT FOR PUBLICATION letter!

Curiously the text of those paragraphs is identical to the key paragraphs Peter Mair has spammed in his recent posts!

What a coincidence!

There is also a request to confirm "this requirement" by 4pm on 14 March 2014.

I'll spare you the details of the "or else" in the next sentence.

No rational person can consider a demand to publicly lie, to be a requirement!

This may take some time to play out, so I intend to keep things on a need to know basis.


Note that the "immediately" clause of that demand has not been obeyed.

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« 2014-Mar-14, 11:48 AM Reply #35 »
Let's try approaching some of V'landys' oft-repeated claims with facts.

In stark contrast to his way.

Latest Fact Book claims NSW Tote turnover was $2628 million.

Now consider parliamentary kickback arrangements.

For leviathans the government receives 10% of Tabcorp's Rake. With a guaranteed minimum of $11 million.

So it's safe to assume that Rake exceeds $110 million.

Assume the Rake is ~20%.

so Turnover from that segment exceeds $550 million!

Is Peter V'litigator trying to have us believe that anyone (let alone everyone) in that segment is unaware of Rake hikes!

http://www.parliament.nsw.gov.au/prod/parlment/nswbills.nsf/0/6b1f1465da29d9b8ca2577e40017cc65/$FILE/LA%2013210.pdf

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« 2014-Mar-14, 11:54 AM Reply #36 »
jfc a physical letter?  more details in how it was they got your address wouldnt go astray as I would assume he gathered this info legally

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« 2014-Mar-14, 11:58 AM Reply #37 »
jfc a physical letter?  more details in how it was they got your address wouldnt go astray as I would assume he gathered this info legally
Yes a physical letter that I extracted from my letterbox.

Now while the rest of your question is interesting, it would be inopportune for me to comment further right now.


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« 2014-Mar-14, 12:44 PM Reply #38 »
jfc, do you know how the letter writer became aware of your identity ?

I can't recall if you have to give your name, when you join this group.

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« 2014-Mar-14, 12:51 PM Reply #39 »
I hear they became aware of jfc's indentity by purusing the guest list for forthcoming  nuptials of David Walsh and Kirsha Kaechele. 

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« 2014-Mar-14, 01:04 PM Reply #40 »
jfc, do you know how the letter writer became aware of your identity ?

I can't recall if you have to give your name, when you join this group.
I certainly did not disclose my name in the registration process.

According to my account info, anyway.

If someone here gave me up, then at least I can be sure it wasn't Eddie Hayson.

As with Whispering's question these are interesting developments that all of you might be well advised to ponder.

But if the associated dire threats were as intimidating as those that led Mair to exceed even his own extremely high bar of deranged ranting, I hope you'll understand that I should decide for myself what and when I disclose.

After all V'landys did previously win some junior Rugby award so on that can hardly be considered a pushover.


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« 2014-Mar-14, 01:07 PM Reply #41 »
I hear they became aware of jfc's indentity by purusing the guest list for forthcoming  nuptials of David Walsh and Kirsha Kaechele. 
Probably easier than that.

Given how much V'landys and Zeljko appear to have a mutually beneficient agenda,  wouldn't surprise me if they have a hot line.

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« 2014-Mar-14, 01:56 PM Reply #42 »
Further to V'landys' observation as to how price sensitive punters are.

Again from the Fact Book.

About (brace yourself) good ole' Tote Tasmania.

Contrast Tote Turnover 3 years back when the Tasmanian Tugger was in full swing, with the most recent full year following the kickback-free reconstruction.

2011 $662 million
2013 $124 million

$538 million vanished, undoubtedly predominantly in sympathy with kickbacks.

That's not far off the estimated leviathan turnover of $550 million for Tabcorp NSW.

V'landys is off course on record as railing against Tote Tasmania. A few years after I broke the story here and elsewhere.
 
So it would be interesting how Sir Peter could justify his legendary mantra, were it ever to be tested in a judicial environment.


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« 2014-Mar-14, 05:59 PM Reply #43 »
Is this the only forum you and Peter Mair visit JFC ?

As you can probably guess, we don't have any of the information needed to identify you through this forum and from a personal point of view, I wouldn't have the fuzziest idea as to who you are or where you are from.

Would be very hard to identify you from this forum, so seems quite strange.

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« 2014-Mar-14, 06:23 PM Reply #44 »
Is this the only forum you and Peter Mair visit JFC ?

As you can probably guess, we don't have any of the information needed to identify you through this forum and from a personal point of view, I wouldn't have the fuzziest idea as to who you are or where you are from.

Would be very hard to identify you from this forum, so seems quite strange.
About the only other Forum I visit these days, is the Betfair one.

So I agree with your implication that something is strange. It's something that certainly has occupied my attention.

Maybe time will tell?


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« 2014-Mar-14, 06:51 PM Reply #45 »
In the interests of not misleading or playing silly buggers with anyone perhaps I should add that in my 20 years of Internet agitation I personally have received similar threats on 4(?) other occasions, and successfully stood up to them all.

As a consequence I have made acquaintances with seasoned participants in that rat race and learned further stuff you would not read about.

While I'm confident I can maintain my clean sheet, time will tell.

So I'm not asking anyone here questions, agree with the significance of the questions being raised, but intend keep certain intelligence to myself until an appropriate opportunity.

If anyone can't stand the suspense maybe you can brush up on some intrigue here (my primary research source):

http://tenplay.com.au/channel-ten/the-good-wife


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« 2014-Mar-14, 09:45 PM Reply #46 »
Maybe they just googled, Zelko -  axe to grind, and your name miraculously appeared.

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« 2014-Mar-15, 06:17 AM Reply #47 »

I'm confident that these researched estimates err on the conservative side:

      100 = Tabcorp Premium Punters
1,000,000 = Active Punters

So the Premium proportion is 1:10,000 - or 0.01%

Yet this 0.01% is responsible for over 20% of Tabcorp NSW's Tote turnover!

Of course this could be verified by

Tabcorp
NSW government
or V'landys

But I don't suggest you hold your breath.

Since such a disclosure could completely wreck the industry.

Leaving aside his Victorian counterpart Saundry's contradiction for now, consider Murrihy's quip about growing turnover in Turkey despite a 40% Rake.

That seems to be equivocation.

Kinda' the truth, but nothing like the whole truth.

And an obvious ploy to butter the plebs up for a Rake hike.

By contrast V'landys continuing theme that punters are oblivious to Rakes so slug 'em for every last cent, is certainly not the truth.

Neither can it be morphed into anything resembling the truth.

But manifestly it has been overwhelmingly ridiculed and condemned by punters who voted with their hip pocket.

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« 2014-Mar-15, 07:43 AM Reply #48 »
Good luck with your battle, jfc :beer:

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« 2014-Mar-16, 07:33 AM Reply #49 »
http://www.markxdavies.com/2010/07/30/peter-vlandys-interview/

From what I can gather V'landys claims that 100% of jockeys and owners support him, but these trainers that carried the no confidence motion are as dumb as us punters.

Until now I though that 100% of the media supported him (because that's what they are paid to do) but live and learn.

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RNSW is being seen as stubborn rather than principled. If the industry continues to be dogged by uncertainty, lack of money and now lack of confidence then the damage being caused may be so debilitating that the sport and industry will be permanently maimed. People will not invest in an industry that appears to be regularly at war on all fronts.

Racing everywhere in Australia is being marginalised, coverage shrinking, interest dwindling. It is losing punters to other forms of wagering as well as gaming. There will come a tipping point for racing in NSW where the damage done by holding out will make it impossible to hold on even if the cases and controversies fall in favour of V'Landys and his board. That will hurt the sport and business not just in NSW but around the country.

Brinkmanship is a game won not by the heart but by the head. V'Landys, his board and NSW racing are on countdown.

Courtesy of PATRICK SMITH of THE AUSTRALIAN, 21/07/2010

http://www.trackdata.com.au/Story.asp?Id=1473



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