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Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Dec-09, 12:29 PM Reply #475 »
To think, someone had given that bunch of roses to that damsel and she used them in that manner, A bunch of red roses could have cost $ 15, what a waste.   :biggrin:

Maybe for one. Costs a lot more than at the track too. I wonder if the turf clubs get a cut out of it as I seen it in Melbourne too..

At least it’s was real and not plastic.  :lol:

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« 2019-Dec-09, 01:02 PM Reply #476 »
My considered opinion is that she actually won the bouquet in the "Fashions in the Field" competition, held earlier in the day . .  :wavecry:

She just seems to have that 'je ne sais quoi' about her

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« 2019-Dec-09, 01:14 PM Reply #477 »
My considered opinion is that she actually won the bouquet in the "Fashions in the Field" competition, held earlier in the day . .  :wavecry:

She just seems to have that 'je ne sais quoi' about her

I thought the fashion stuff ceases during non carnival meetings.

Being roses and usually it will have thorns unless pruned, it will scratch your face and eyes. If that was an umbrella that would have done some damage.

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« 2019-Dec-09, 01:28 PM Reply #478 »
Partial extract from SMH article today. Vlandys has defied turnover issues.

Spring becoming big business as Sydney bucks national trends

Chris Roots

By Chris Roots

 December 8, 2019 — 3.49pm

The success of the extended spring carnival has Sydney racing defying national trends in betting, crowds and corporate hospitality figures.

The spring has recovered the losses in betting turnover from the first quarter of the year, with betting on the Everest up three per cent year-on-year and the Golden Eagle surpassing all expectations.

“We were like everyone else in Australia until September, our betting figures were horrible,” Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys said. “In the spring we were able to increase our market share with the new races and that has offset the slow start to the year. We are where we were last year now.”

The Everest holds its place as the biggest betting race in NSW with the Golden Eagle dropping in at number three behind the Queen Elizabeth Stakes for 2019.

“Punters wanted to bet on the Golden Eagle in its first year because of the quality of the field,” V’landys said. “It is only going to grow. It would have been the second-best betting race of the year but this year’s Queen Elizabeth was huge, being Winx’s last race.”

The Australian Turf Club reported a 36 per cent lift in the corporate side of its race day business with The Everest and Golden Eagle becoming must-see events on the Sydney calendar.

It has prompted Racing NSW to put all corporate and dining tickets on sale for the autumn and spring carnivals before Christmas to give businesses and the public the chance to get in early.

“Corporate hospitality is growing and is defying the trend around Australia,” ATC executive general manager commercial, Corina Black, said.

“Our feedback from our clients is that a day at the races is better value for money because you get a full day with your clients.

“The corporate cycle is to plan for next spring at this time of the year, so that is why we have put all our packages for next year on sale now. It gives an opportunity to lock in days like the Golden Slipper, The Championships and The Everest and the Golden Eagle very early.”

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« 2019-Dec-09, 01:33 PM Reply #479 »

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« 2019-Dec-09, 02:35 PM Reply #480 »
Shame it says "Sydney Only" . .

I could see a great wholesale/ retail opportunity unfolding  :flowers:

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« 2019-Dec-09, 04:33 PM Reply #481 »
Partial extract from SMH article today. Vlandys has defied turnover issues.

Spring becoming big business as Sydney bucks national trends

Chris Roots

By Chris Roots

 December 8, 2019 — 3.49pm

The success of the extended spring carnival has Sydney racing defying national trends in betting, crowds and corporate hospitality figures.

The spring has recovered the losses in betting turnover from the first quarter of the year, with betting on the Everest up three per cent year-on-year and the Golden Eagle surpassing all expectations.

“We were like everyone else in Australia until September, our betting figures were horrible,” Racing NSW chief executive Peter V’landys said. “In the spring we were able to increase our market share with the new races and that has offset the slow start to the year. We are where we were last year now.”

The Everest holds its place as the biggest betting race in NSW with the Golden Eagle dropping in at number three behind the Queen Elizabeth Stakes for 2019.

“Punters wanted to bet on the Golden Eagle in its first year because of the quality of the field,” V’landys said. “It is only going to grow. It would have been the second-best betting race of the year but this year’s Queen Elizabeth was huge, being Winx’s last race.”

The Australian Turf Club reported a 36 per cent lift in the corporate side of its race day business with The Everest and Golden Eagle becoming must-see events on the Sydney calendar.

It has prompted Racing NSW to put all corporate and dining tickets on sale for the autumn and spring carnivals before Christmas to give businesses and the public the chance to get in early.

“Corporate hospitality is growing and is defying the trend around Australia,” ATC executive general manager commercial, Corina Black, said.

“Our feedback from our clients is that a day at the races is better value for money because you get a full day with your clients.

“The corporate cycle is to plan for next spring at this time of the year, so that is why we have put all our packages for next year on sale now. It gives an opportunity to lock in days like the Golden Slipper, The Championships and The Everest and the Golden Eagle very early.”
Disappointing to read a Racing NSW's spin sheet put up as news in a newspaper which claims "independent always".

Proper journalism would put up %'s  around 'horrible betting figures".......although the "we are where we were this time last year now" gives us something.

Robbie Waterhouse's line about racing being "uncool" to young people should have racing administrators on guard.

Mid February is when the police charges of cruelty, cheating and fraud against D Weir will be big in the news again.......Sydney Autumn carnival time!
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« 2019-Dec-09, 04:53 PM Reply #482 »
Shame it says "Sydney Only" . .

I could see a great wholesale/ retail opportunity unfolding  :flowers:

If you win big, or need forgiveness  you now know what price range the 100 roses should be.  :lol:

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« 2019-Dec-09, 05:03 PM Reply #483 »
This is the latest on the flower power brawl. Is it me or a couple of the people pictured have day member passes?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7770311/Rosehill-Races-fight-Man-hit-head-bunch-flowers.html

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« 2019-Dec-09, 05:05 PM Reply #484 »
Certainly looks like day passes on the top two.

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« 2019-Dec-09, 05:37 PM Reply #485 »
Certainly looks like day passes on the top two.

He has different pants on from the first photo to the brawl photos  :shrug:

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« 2019-Dec-09, 07:18 PM Reply #486 »


........ a very serious allegation

There is no place in the mainstream media for a 'journalist' that would compromise his professional integrity and independence with a contract with Tabcorp precluding it.

Sadly for XXXXXX the reason for this promotional piece lies with his "nothing negative" contract with Sky.

Sadly also, it is not clear that other racing media writers are not similarly compromised.

..... are there other 'journalists' known to be 'bought' and compromised?


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« 2019-Dec-09, 07:41 PM Reply #487 »
He has different pants on from the first photo to the brawl photos  :shrug:

Looks like it doesn’t it

Certainly looks like day passes on the top two.

It is quite easy to get one of these and ATC is not the only club to do so for anyone.  You can buy member passes anytime including if you are a corporate or part owner too. I do feel sorry for the ATC as they have spent years improving the fight image they got in the 00s.

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« 2019-Dec-16, 04:33 PM Reply #488 »
The Pegasus race in America has crashed and burned.  Remember the Pegasus was the race V'Landys copied when creating the Everest.  The slot holders idea for the Pegasus has been scrapped and as a result prizemoney has been cut back from $9 million to $3 million so now it is just another race

The Yanks have found that these slot holder races for massive "prizemoney" are negative ROI events and unsustainable

How long until the Everest carnival is wound back to something sustainable?  The Everest is the only slot holder race but every new race at the Everest carnival this year had way too much prizemoney allocated to it

https://www.thoroughbreddailynews.com/no-longer-a-buy-in-race-pegasus-world-cup-to-be-medication-free-in-2020/

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« 2019-Dec-16, 09:07 PM Reply #489 »
 
Atreus makes a prescient point

While opposed to dare-to-be-great disruptive policy approaches in an industry with such treasured traditions, it is well beyond time that RVL was exposed for delivering tripe dressed up as 'black type' and more generally adopting short-term, money-grabbing tactics which make racing unfair for all but the fixed-odds parasites and rebate-taking syndicates.

... ............talk about abandoning the only customers that  pay the freight!

I would be tipping RVL's  brainless 'no' star mile to be the first to be sidelined.

Our Pete is destined for immortality -- should be put in the 'hall of fame' asap as an illustration of the prospects for the industry .............. bar exposing the failure of RVL and recognizing that the best weather in Sydney is in Spring.


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« 2019-Dec-16, 10:06 PM Reply #490 »
Interesting article Atreus. I am intrigued why the prize money reduction as the slot holders are not paying the money according to the article so if they paid, prizemoney should have gone up.

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« 2019-Dec-17, 06:24 AM Reply #491 »
After the inaugural running of the Pegasus World Cup at Gulfstream Park in 2017 the initial ‘slot holder’ race has met its demise under its starting format so you might ask ‘is this a sign of things to come for The Everest?’ I think not.

The 2017 Pegasus World Cup was won by champion galloper Arrogate and was followed by Gun Runner in 2018 and City Of Light earlier this year.

However while the winners have been bona fide stars the problem with the Pegasus has been there were never any more than a couple of chances, so how would 12 people want to fork out the US$1m to purchase a slot when you’ve got little hope getting a hold of the winner?

Now we see The Stronach Group, who run the event, changing tack and running both the 2020 Pegasus World Cup Invitational and World Cup Turf Invitational without any entry fees - the slots are gone.

But so too has the prizemoney, the inaugural Pegasus World Cup was worth US$12m, then it was upped to US$16m and this year it was US$17m, but that was split over two races worth $9m and $7m with a $1m bonus on offer if an owner won both, and the slot holders forked out $500,000, and there were 24 of them this year.

Now the 2020 version of the inaugural dirt race has been reduced to US$3m with the turf edition worth ‘just’ US$1m after being run under much fanfare for $7m last January.

It would be nice to say it was great while it lasted but the reality was it wasn’t for the majority of participants – but that’s not saying the event didn’t get the wheels turning here in Australia.

The Everest was modelled on the Pegasus concept, but unlike the US version the Randwick slot holder race has gone from strength-to-strength with slots now very much sought after.

There has been no standout in any edition of The Everest and in the three runnings so far virtually every horse that turned up on the day has been a live chance, and with all the current slot holders indicating they want more the future seems well and truly assured for the Aussie version.

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« 2019-Dec-17, 06:45 AM Reply #492 »
After the inaugural running of the Pegasus World Cup at Gulfstream Park in 2017 the initial ‘slot holder’ race has met its demise under its starting format so you might ask ‘is this a sign of things to come for The Everest?’ I think not.

The 2017 Pegasus World Cup was won by champion galloper Arrogate and was followed by Gun Runner in 2018 and City Of Light earlier this year.

However while the winners have been bona fide stars the problem with the Pegasus has been there were never any more than a couple of chances, so how would 12 people want to fork out the US$1m to purchase a slot when you’ve got little hope getting a hold of the winner?

Now we see The Stronach Group, who run the event, changing tack and running both the 2020 Pegasus World Cup Invitational and World Cup Turf Invitational without any entry fees - the slots are gone.

But so too has the prizemoney, the inaugural Pegasus World Cup was worth US$12m, then it was upped to US$16m and this year it was US$17m, but that was split over two races worth $9m and $7m with a $1m bonus on offer if an owner won both, and the slot holders forked out $500,000, and there were 24 of them this year.

Now the 2020 version of the inaugural dirt race has been reduced to US$3m with the turf edition worth ‘just’ US$1m after being run under much fanfare for $7m last January.

It would be nice to say it was great while it lasted but the reality was it wasn’t for the majority of participants – but that’s not saying the event didn’t get the wheels turning here in Australia.

The Everest was modelled on the Pegasus concept, but unlike the US version the Randwick slot holder race has gone from strength-to-strength with slots now very much sought after.

There has been no standout in any edition of The Everest and in the three runnings so far virtually every horse that turned up on the day has been a live chance, and with all the current slot holders indicating they want more the future seems well and truly assured for the Aussie version.

Agree Rothfire regarding the quality of the Everest. The best field this year in Australia was the Everest.

Not sure what the future of other races like the Bondi, Golden Eagle etc.

The Everest will carry the Sydney spring on it’s shoulders. I can see the ATC also cutting any prizemoney at all in the other spring races even with any declines in turnover as it will be admitting there were mistakes made.

I will be intrigued if any of the racing bodies have any ideas of addressing the turnover issues.

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« 2019-Dec-18, 06:56 AM Reply #493 »
SFS rebuild has now gone over $99 million over the original amount.
Not V’landys issue for the overspend but the timing of the stadium opening will help him in the long run.

It is still expected to open in 2022 and like Bank West in Parramatta will help improve crowd attendance.

The only catch for V’landys and co will be if expansion is on the cards for the next tv deal as most Sydney clubs who don’t play in the suburban grounds, will not leave ANZ and SFS after a rebuild. The crowds will increase too so makes expansion or relocation tricky.

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« 2019-Dec-22, 08:40 PM Reply #494 »
It did not take long for V’Landys to put someone offside in the NRL world of expansion. It will be the first of many as V’landys was given a poisoned chalice as no one previously before him wanted to make a decision.

V’Landys is right re 2nd Brisbane side but will it be a relocation or a new side is the question? There are some basket financial sides at the moment and the new tv deal will not be lucrative as the last unless Foxtel has rocks in their brains or a internet streaming service jumps in.

Article below regarding Perth expansion.

https://i.stuff.co.nz/sport/league/118397458/perth-takes-fight-to-nrl-over-expansion-snub

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« 2019-Dec-23, 06:28 PM Reply #495 »
I'm not up to speed on the latest plans re the NRL. contraction/expansion.

Are Souths again destined for extinction?

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« 2019-Dec-23, 07:15 PM Reply #496 »
  :lol:

Only if more ignorant  :crap: :crap: :crap: :crap: :crap: like Murdoch step in
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« 2019-Dec-23, 08:28 PM Reply #497 »
I'm not up to speed on the latest plans re the NRL. contraction/expansion.

Are Souths again destined for extinction?

Interesting question and answer will always vary.

Upshot is general consensus is NRL does not have the talent or financial depths to have 18 teams.

Thus more chance of relocation than expansion. The prime candidate are the Titans. Another couple of failure seasons will deplete the crowds even further and make further inroads into their financial reserves. They also cannot attract crowds of 10k regularly when they are losing.

The other team that has come up intermittently are the Sharks. I find it quite strange as they recently won a premiership and on top future development should have secured their future.

None of the Sydney clubs will relocate willingly including the sharks. The titans may not have a choice unless things improve.

The locations for new teams will either be in Brisbane, Ipswich or Central Coast. Considering V’landys has discounted Perth, it will be tough for them to be in the running even though sentimentally they would be a big chance with the general public.

Although 2nd Brisbane team would be the big favourites in my humble opinion, unless the new tv deal requires 18 teams, the 2nd Brisbane team will be no chance unless there is a relocation.


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« 2019-Dec-23, 10:25 PM Reply #498 »
I'm not up to speed on the latest plans re the NRL. contraction/expansion.

Are Souths again destined for extinction?

I think there is talk Russ wants to relocate them to the US.

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« 2019-Dec-24, 06:35 AM Reply #499 »
I think there is talk Russ wants to relocate them to the US.


He can’t. Politis has already taken a franchise over there so they can “claim” some more juniors


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