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Offline nemisis

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« 2020-Jul-11, 08:19 AM Reply #575 »
Chief ‘hurt’ at footage
THE boss of Racing NSW was shocked and “hurt” when he tuned in to see horrific footage of retired racehorses being slaughtered – spliced with an interview he had done in good faith – a court has heard.

Peter V’landys is suing the ABC and a journalist in the Federal Court for defamation following an episode of 7.30, which he claims painted him as though he “callously permitted the wholesale slaughter” of horses. He is seeking aggravated damages over the segment titled The Final Race, which aired in October 2019.

Lawyers previously told the court the national broadcaster did not disclose to Mr V’landys it had obtained the footage before he fronted an interview for the program.

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Buried away in the CM...... not given any prominence .......I don't fancy his chances if he was only "shocked and hurt"........his feelings should have improved considerably after being headhunted to head up the ARL....... a high profile position  which doesn't fit with satisfying the defamation laws that the ABC program  brought his reputation into public disrepute, ridicule and contempt ......that's my observation.

Giddy Up :beer:

Good post Arsenal.  emthup
Would you mind posting it on the Final Race thread.

Only took P V'landys  3 weeks to realise his feelings were "shocked and hurt"  :lol:   :lol:
Fancy valuable  court time being taken up with this nonsense and I do hope it is not the racehorse welfare fund that is paying for it.

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« 2020-Jul-12, 12:55 PM Reply #576 »
Good post Arsenal.   emthup  
Would you mind posting it on the Final Race thread.

Only took P V'landys  3 weeks to realise his feelings were "shocked and hurt"   :lol:     :lol:  
Fancy valuable  court time being taken up with this nonsense and I do hope it is not the racehorse welfare fund that is paying for it.

I do wonder who is paying for the case as it will be an expensive case if there are appeals etc. I wonder if Racing  NSW etc are funding it because if V’landys wins, it will vindicate them.

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« 2020-Jul-12, 01:23 PM Reply #577 »


Just say 'sorry pete'

........best not to offend anyone with an open cheque book to fund litigation....on a prior occasion when RNSW was on a case that was out of hand .......in answer to the question 'how much is this costing RNSW' the answer from a former ceo was 'about half as much as it is costing the other side'.

.... this case probably wont go to court ....probably an acceptance that some 'prior disclosure' was appropriate would be enough to clear the air.

..............over to the ABC.

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« 2020-Jul-15, 08:03 AM Reply #578 »
Racing NSW made a bold decision and preemptively cancelled today’s Warwick Farm because of the Covid19 cases in the Liverpool area.

I don’t think many would have an issue with that but does this also mean that they need to look at horses that will race at the weekend from Warwick Farm trainers?

It does create a potential minefield if the cases grow in the area as Spring Racing is about a month away. Already NRL is looking at a bubble but you can’t do that with racing.

Interesting times ahead for Spring Racing in Melbourne and Sydney.

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« 2020-Jul-15, 08:16 AM Reply #579 »

Enough is enough - stay on topic please.

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« 2020-Jul-15, 08:28 AM Reply #580 »
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« 2020-Jul-15, 09:01 PM Reply #581 »
The original story behind today’s cancellation was the number of COVID19 cases in the area.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/coronavirus-outbreak-sees-warwick-farm-called-off-20200714

However it seems the real reason was there 4 Covid19 test results that people were awaiting on. The comments on the story do have a fair point in some regards. I can understand not to broadcast but compare that to how upfront what NRL and AFL do with players who undergo tests etc. I wonder if there is a middle ground especially if there is a positive in the future.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/warwick-farm-stable-staff-in-isolation-after-covid-19-scare-20200715


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« 2020-Jul-26, 01:18 PM Reply #582 »
Really interesting article regarding about declining tv audiences for NRL.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-audience-plummets-by-more-than-1-million-since-restart-20200725-p55fdn.html

I have to agree partially with V’landys explanation etc with Qld teams failing but I also concur with people not wanting to watch blowouts. This is partially due to the restarts and the fitness angle. I noticed that in most even games, the number of restarts for each team are similar. However when to and bottom sides meet. the top sides usually get a lot more restarts due to their superiority in fitness and talent.


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« 2020-Jul-26, 09:25 PM Reply #583 »
the top sides usually get a lot more restarts due to their superiority in fitness and talent.

Read an interesting analysis during the week Jeunes, which indicated some leading teams have worked out they are better off deliberately giving away a set restart in certain situations and consequently have a net negative restart count for the season. For memory, comp leaders Penrith were around -25 for the season (given away 25 more restarts then received). The Eels, Storm and Roosters were also in the negative so have obviously cottoned on to the same strategy.

Some have likened it to the Roosters' scurrilous tactics of 2013 where they would deliberately concede penalties on their goal line, but you'd like to hope the game has moved on from that dark part of its history.

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« 2020-Jul-26, 09:54 PM Reply #584 »
Maximus, that is really interesting as I know some sides seem to give a few away very early in the set when they turn the ball over in the opposition 20-30m and are trying to reset the defence. In the old days, it would have been a penalty and having to defend their half.

Today’s two matches did not have many resets and the wet weather might have contributed to it as not much attacking football

Not sure if it is the grounds, lack of fitness or the faster games but there are so many injuries this year compared to the previous years.

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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:24 PM Reply #585 »


This is a racing forum

.............. NRL is an irrelevance ... it has no  viable commercial future.

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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:39 PM Reply #586 »
That's exactly right Jeunes - most likely to give away the restart early in the tackle count around the attacking teams own 30-40m zone where the attack is threatening to get a quick play the ball which can then snowball into a big set of six (or a try).

The thinking being you are better off sacrificing one or two extra tackles to get your defensive line set rather than have your defence on the back foot for an entire set.

Not sure about the reason for the injuries - could be something as simple as the ball being in play for longer. I do hope they eradicate that tackle where the defender drags the runner down from behind using his full bodyweight - that can cause some nasty leg injuries.
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« 2020-Jul-26, 10:47 PM Reply #587 »
Read an interesting analysis during the week Jeunes, which indicated some leading teams have worked out they are better off deliberately giving away a set restart in certain situations and consequently have a net negative restart count for the season. For memory, comp leaders Penrith were around -25 for the season (given away 25 more restarts then received). The Eels, Storm and Roosters were also in the negative so have obviously cottoned on to the same strategy.

Some have likened it to the Roosters' scurrilous tactics of 2013 where they would deliberately concede penalties on their goal line, but you'd like to hope the game has moved on from that dark part of its history.

You have been reading far too much bull on the internet Maximus. You need to stop hanging around those Souths forums. Full of psychopaths you know.

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« 2020-Jul-27, 08:38 PM Reply #588 »
That's exactly right Jeunes - most likely to give away the restart early in the tackle count around the attacking teams own 30-40m zone where the attack is threatening to get a quick play the ball which can then snowball into a big set of six (or a try).

The thinking being you are better off sacrificing one or two extra tackles to get your defensive line set rather than have your defence on the back foot for an entire set.

Not sure about the reason for the injuries - could be something as simple as the ball being in play for longer. I do hope they eradicate that tackle where the defender drags the runner down from behind using his full bodyweight - that can cause some nasty leg injuries.

Funny part was Gallen had below article about the injuries.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/paul-gallen-column-injuries-to-shape-2020-premiership/1415c8b2-e97d-4da1-b0a6-09071ab088a6

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« 2020-Jul-27, 08:42 PM Reply #589 »
V’landys supposedly steps in to allow SBW deal amid cries of Roosters bias. The unanswered question is the 14 day quarantine period as he is also not an Australian Citizen and has not lived in Australia for a while but his wife has so V’landys must pull some strings to get him to stay outside a quarantine hotel.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-vlandys-confirms-two-contract-exemption-to-allow-sonny-bill-williams-roosters-deal/b59a8b8f-2477-4ab0-b74b-96470e0921fc

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« 2020-Jul-27, 08:55 PM Reply #590 »
Joseph Suaalii could debut for South Sydney next season

The NRL will consider scrapping age restrictions on boom teenagers that will allow $2 million rookie Joseph Suaalii to make his NRL debut for the South Sydney Rabbitohs next year at 17.

It is the major reason why Suaalii on Monday turned his back on rugby union’s $3 million offer and the chance to win an Olympic gold medal to stick with the Rabbitohs.

He could now debut in the opening round of 2021.

News Corp can reveal the NRL wants to change the age rule introduced 10 years ago that a player cannot debut until they turn 18. Suaalii turns 18 in August next year and was facing a season in SG Ball competition.

“You’ve got to be agile and be ready for every challenge that’s thrown at you,” said independent commission boss Peter V’landys.

Suaalii can now do a full pre-season and start in round one for the Rabbitohs.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/joseph-suaalii-set-to-backflip-on-rugby-to-remain-at-south-sydney/


Wow!. Favoritism to Souths. Who'd a thought after all the whining about SBW coming in from Chalmers St.

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« 2020-Jul-28, 09:15 AM Reply #591 »
Well, it’s commonsense isn’t it

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« 2020-Jul-28, 08:00 PM Reply #592 »
Racing NSW boss never saw ‘defamatory’ show
LANE SAINTY Courier Mail report
 

NSW racing boss Peter V’landys has never seen the episode of 7.30 he is suing over and may watch it for the first time as a judge scrutinises his reaction in court, his lawyer says.

Mr V’landys, the chief executive of Racing NSW and NRL chairman, is suing the ABC and journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna for defamation over the October 2019 broadcast he says painted him as a liar and someone who “callously permitted the wholesale slaughter” of horses.

The program, titled The Final Race, made serious allegations about retired thoroughbreds meeting a cruel end at knackeries in NSW and Queensland. Mr V’landys gave an interview to the program, which he complains was spliced with graphic footage of horses being mistreated.

In a hearing before Justice Michael Wigney on Monday, ABC barrister Clarissa Amato said: “He’s claiming damages for hurt feelings when he’s never seen the program.” The trial is scheduled for September.

 
Hurt feelings is that all there is Peggy Lee
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=peggy+lee+is+that+all+there+is+song&view=detail&mid=3FA3F78D2981372BA7883FA3F78D2981372BA788&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dpeggy%2blee%2bis%2bthat%2ball%2bthere%2bis%2bsong%26cvid%3d6688e879fc2f45cdb0e09516528146b9%26pglt%3d547%26FORM%3dANNTA1%26PC%3dU531

Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2020-Jul-28, 10:58 PM Reply #593 »
Racing NSW boss never saw ‘defamatory’ show
LANE SAINTY Courier Mail report
 

NSW racing boss Peter V’landys has never seen the episode of 7.30 he is suing over and may watch it for the first time as a judge scrutinises his reaction in court, his lawyer says.

Mr V’landys, the chief executive of Racing NSW and NRL chairman, is suing the ABC and journalist Caro Meldrum-Hanna for defamation over the October 2019 broadcast he says painted him as a liar and someone who “callously permitted the wholesale slaughter” of horses.

The program, titled The Final Race, made serious allegations about retired thoroughbreds meeting a cruel end at knackeries in NSW and Queensland. Mr V’landys gave an interview to the program, which he complains was spliced with graphic footage of horses being mistreated.

In a hearing before Justice Michael Wigney on Monday, ABC barrister Clarissa Amato said: “He’s claiming damages for hurt feelings when he’s never seen the program.” The trial is scheduled for September.

 
Hurt feelings is that all there is Peggy Lee
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=peggy+lee+is+that+all+there+is+song&view=detail&mid=3FA3F78D2981372BA7883FA3F78D2981372BA788&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3dpeggy%2blee%2bis%2bthat%2ball%2bthere%2bis%2bsong%26cvid%3d6688e879fc2f45cdb0e09516528146b9%26pglt%3d547%26FORM%3dANNTA1%26PC%3dU531

Giddy Up :beer:



That can’t be right. How do you not see the show you are suing over?

More importantly why would not a CEO of an organisation that has been interviewed on a show that is going on national tv on racehorse welfare watch the programme to see what was raised?

It seems more like a head in the sand if V’landys has not ever watched the programme and the issues raised by it.

Won’t be long before his supporters jump to his defence and attack ABC. At least they watched the programme.   :lol:

But more seriously, I still can’t believe that he did not watch it. His lawyer must have misread or misspoke.   :lol:

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« 2020-Jul-29, 07:32 AM Reply #594 »
Furphy!

Its not about whether he feelings were hurt when he watched it or not!

Its about loss of reputation when others wathched it in the main. This leads to hurt feelings and suing for same.

Fours
ps it is the kind of argument made when one is desperate for not really having an argument of any worth at all.

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« 2020-Jul-29, 08:29 AM Reply #595 »
I think this case has the makings of going to the appeals court regardless who wins the first case.

The only winners are the lawyers in this case.

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« 2020-Aug-03, 12:09 PM Reply #596 »
I forgot to post this before the indigenous NRL round.  The ABC posting a positive story on V’Landys. Pity some of his supporters don’t read or watch ABC because of ideology.    :lol:  

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-07-28/vlandys-eye-opening-meeting-with-nrls-indigenous-leaders/12497340



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