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« 2021-Sep-06, 05:28 AM Reply #775 »
Vaccinated or not, you’d have to be an utter fool to attend any public gathering in NSW at the moment.
10,000+ tired and emotional partygoers cavorting around indoors in close quarters. Before making their way home to the far-flung corners of the State.

What could go wrong?

Right now I agonise about exercising outdoors because that guarantees rule-breakers finding some way to get into my space.

But a stitched up event with fake prizemoney seems more important to the elected officials trying to kill us.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 08:22 PM Reply #776 »
A bit surprised that Racing Victoria has jumped in front of NSW racing on this issue as usually V’landys is ahead of the curve.

V’landys may have to deal with this soon and even the NRL players too.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/racing-victoria-to-introduce-compulsory-vaccination-policy-for-participants/news-story/6885db0dfd9791d414e29599f212dfe1

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« 2021-Sep-14, 09:05 PM Reply #777 »
A bit surprised that Racing Victoria has jumped in front of NSW racing on this issue as usually V’landys is ahead of the curve.

V’landys may have to deal with this soon and even the NRL players too.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/superracing/racing-victoria-to-introduce-compulsory-vaccination-policy-for-participants/news-story/6885db0dfd9791d414e29599f212dfe1

Not surprising if you look at the left wing communist state that Victoria has become under Chairman Dan.

There are fractures appearing in the Victorian Left however over this issue so it is not cut and dry that RVL is correct


Union pushes back on compulsory COVID vaccinations for construction workers

The Construction, Forestry, Maritime, Mining and Energy Union (CFMEU) say they do not support compulsory COVID vaccinations in their industry.

Victorian secretary John Setka told Virginia Trioli some of their members have genuine health concerns about the vaccine.

"I don’t support anything being compulsory — people have genuine health concerns," Mr Setka said.

"But I believe we should listen to the experts."


https://www.abc.net.au/radio/melbourne/programs/mornings/john-setka-on-covid-19-vaccine/13541136

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« 2021-Sep-14, 10:18 PM Reply #778 »
Pop-Up Pete and John Messara are the modern day Russ Hinze and The “Dishonourable”, Hon Johannes Bjeelke-Petersen
Only God knows what a Royal Inquest would bring about our great industry.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 07:52 AM Reply #779 »
The funniest thing about a Royal Commission in to racing is that so many punters, when hearing some of the truth coming out  would say "yeah, now tell us something we don't know"

Sad thing is the magnificent thoroughbred is just the pawn in the game.
Should be the king.....but just the pawn!
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« 2021-Sep-15, 08:12 AM Reply #780 »
What Royal Commission  :what:

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« 2021-Sep-15, 09:49 AM Reply #781 »


"yeah, now tell us something we don't know"

One thing you don't know is that most punters would be astonished to hear the findings of any independent official inquiry into the racing industry.

............. the findings would not be lingering on the occasional and always-discovered indiscretions of trainers and jockeys .............. those on show would be those embroiled in the unholy-alliance.

It is primarily an 'always ducked' responsibility of state-governments to call to account racing-administrators, racing-ministers, fixed-odds-bookmakers and captive racing-media men unable to do their job.

................ if not a royal commission ....... surely a job for an ICAC ............ possibly a teething-ring for a federal ICAC.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 11:11 AM Reply #782 »

"yeah, now tell us something we don't know"

One thing you don't know is that most punters would be astonished to hear the findings of any independent official inquiry into the racing industry.


How would you know the findings before they had one  and released their report :what:

If you can release the Peter Mair pre-RC findings here it might save everyone a lot of time and money wasted on lawyers.

What is implied that they are going to find?

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« 2021-Sep-15, 12:23 PM Reply #783 »
Seeing as I could have saved RNSW a lot of money when the boss man sued the ABC....I might be qualified to answer the RC "findings"

I'd  say they would find horse racing to be as shonky as!.....all the way from 1st 4 jackpots to very lucky Riverina hotels.
Just as the Southern Districts found that "doping and PEDs has corrupted much of the industry"
Not a lot of scrutiny placed on people in authority by people whose job it is to ask questions.
Racing is a cruel sport with whipping, very poor racing surfaces and not enough attention paid to horse welfare, once they leave the track.

It would also find there are many decent and committed thoroughbred people in racing as well.....who went into the industry because of their love of the horses!

There you go.....how much money have I just saved the taxpayers!

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« 2021-Sep-15, 03:32 PM Reply #784 »
Seeing as I could have saved RNSW a lot of money when the boss man sued the ABC....I might be qualified to answer the RC "findings"

I'd  say they would find horse racing to be as shonky as!.....all the way from 1st 4 jackpots to very lucky Riverina hotels.
Just as the Southern Districts found that "doping and PEDs has corrupted much of the industry"
Not a lot of scrutiny placed on people in authority by people whose job it is to ask questions.
Racing is a cruel sport with whipping, very poor racing surfaces and not enough attention paid to horse welfare, once they leave the track.

It would also find there are many decent and committed thoroughbred people in racing as well.....who went into the industry because of their love of the horses!

There you go.....how much money have I just saved the taxpayers!

Remind us nemesis where you live? Amazing how most experts on "what is wrong with NSW racing" come from outside the state. I've even heard people criticize NSW for having "too much prizemoney"   :lol:  Perhaps we should have a Royal Commission on that

"Lucky Riverina hotel"  :what:

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« 2021-Sep-15, 06:41 PM Reply #785 »


"Lucky Riverina hotel"  :what:
the Hotel punters club that bought 40k worth of tickets and got two slots in the Kosi and the other race that Mair said wasn't gunna happen
RNSW were gunna pocket the money

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« 2021-Sep-15, 06:44 PM Reply #786 »
Regardless of what people think of V’landys, if he pulls it off, it will be great to see racing with crowds.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/coronavirus-update-sydney-everest-race-royal-randwick-first-event-with-crowds/91dd2c50-d61f-4de1-b542-5d9f1a9a819f

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« 2021-Sep-16, 11:38 AM Reply #787 »
the Hotel punters club that bought 40k worth of tickets and got two slots in the Kosi and the other race that Mair said wasn't gunna happen
RNSW were gunna pocket the money

  :lol:

If it helps Pete then we should just run a Royal Commission on this forum.

Pete will be Commissioner no doubt.

Me being "King Dick" give it my assent so that covers the Royal bit.

Those with VDS can be counsel assisting the Commissioner.

Should come up with some valid conspiracy theories if enough mud is thrown  ;)

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« 2021-Sep-16, 01:34 PM Reply #788 »
Remind us nemesis where you live? Amazing how most experts on "what is wrong with NSW racing" come from outside the state. I've even heard people criticize NSW for having "too much prizemoney"     :lol:    Perhaps we should have a Royal Commission on that

"Lucky Riverina hotel"  :what:
Where do I live?....well if I jumped in my car now in 20 odd minutes I would be at the Camden Saleyards.

I have bought animals from there.....I have seen branded horses being put through there.
Thoroughbreds without names being sold off to the doggers....friendless, they are.
The saleyards only notified sellers and  buyers about not accepting thoroughbreds a few days after the "final race" went to air.
Seems that's all it took.....God only knows where they are going to now!
Probably makes me a bit more qualified to speak on what was going on there than the person RNSW served up on national television.

Any questions on the  Shepparton to Caboolture Meat truck?......only know a bit about that, but it's enough though.
See how well  I take questions   emthup  

Any thoughts on the "RC findings"?
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« 2021-Sep-16, 04:42 PM Reply #789 »
Nem, the interesting aspect in if a  RC was ever held will be the cost of the defamation case by V’landys and the amount that Racing NSW is paying at the moment.

No one is wiser if the appeal has been lodged or not. If it has been lodged, there has been no publicity other than initial discussions after the loss.

If Porter case cost almost a $1m, you would think that the V’landys defamation will be similar or higher as he had to pay ABC costs too.

If the appeal has been lodged and V’landys wins, it will e champagne and caviar for V’landys and Racing NSW. If has lodged his appeal and lost, it won’t be a loss except for Racing NSW. So technically whatever happens V’landys won’t be financially liable.

On bright side, any publicity is good publicity.    :lol:  

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« 2021-Sep-17, 07:17 AM Reply #790 »
We are the wiser Jeunes.
If an appeal had been lodged the ABC would have reported it......that's how the ABC works.
It's worth a read, the court findings because the V'Landys has been given a good smacking there.....he wasn't able to prove any of the "alleged imputations"
It's long and good!

https://www.colemangreig.com.au/BlogPost-1708-racing-nsw-boss-peter-vlandys-loses-defamation-case-over-abc-animal-cruelty-story.aspx?
It's at the bottom.


The funniest part for me is the judge basing his findings on how the program would be viewed by "an ordinary reasonable person"......thankfully not by the resident forum halfwits!
 

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« 2021-Sep-17, 08:49 AM Reply #791 »
Nem, it has cost Racing NSW at least $1m if not more. This will end up costing more if they lose the appeal or if the appeal does not result in ABC paying any costs. That is a huge gamble to take with industry funds regardless of result.

If the appeal has been lodged, we should hear the result soon as it has been awhile.

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« 2021-Sep-17, 11:39 AM Reply #792 »
Nem, it has cost Racing NSW at least $1m if not more. This will end up costing more if they lose the appeal or if the appeal does not result in ABC paying any costs. That is a huge gamble to take with industry funds regardless of result.

If the appeal has been lodged, we should hear the result soon as it has been awhile.

Both Racing NSW and the ABC are public sector.

They don't pay a cent. We do!

ABC lost over a $1m with Porter case. Set to lose more with Bernardi.

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« 2021-Sep-20, 07:15 AM Reply #793 »
Both Racing NSW and the ABC are public sector.

They don't pay a cent. We do!

ABC lost over a $1m with Porter case. Set to lose more with Bernardi.
Wouldn't it just be a whole lot better if people like Porter and V'Landys  used their own money to fight their personal battles with the ABC?

Neither would have ever commenced proceedings if they knew they would be paying for it out of their own pockets
I'd say that RNSW will be justifying somehow that it's reasonable for the racehorse welfare fund to foot V'Landys bill.

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« 2021-Sep-20, 11:44 PM Reply #794 »
Interesting that the NSW government knocked back the 15,000 crowd as requested by Racing NSW. Now the NSW government will only allow 5,000 if the NSW vaccine rates hit 70% by then.

I could be wrong but I think both the state government and Racing NSW played this really well. Racing NSW had Buckley’s chance of getting 15k and the negative vibe from the general public but  they got 5,000 approved which seemed impossible a month ago. This will be the hottest ticket in town this year by a mile. NSW government look responsible for knocking back 15k but yet promote that life is getting back to normal by allowing 5,000.

The 70% vaccination rate is expected to be hit around Oct  11 so it seems inevitable that 5000 people will be allowed in.

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« 2021-Sep-22, 11:51 PM Reply #795 »
Interesting article in Let’s Go horseracing site earlier which Arsenal referred to in another topic.

I know anyone who comes into close contact with a a covid 19’ case has to isolate for 14 days unless they are classified as casual contacts. A  negative rapid antigen test does not absolve you if you are a causal contact too. The normal test takes upto 24 -48 hrs too. This has happened to a couple of my work colleagues from different locations who were working from home but attended shopping centres etc. They got pinged with text messages and one got visited by police as he was deemed a close contact during the early weeks of the lockdown to see if he was isolating. So what they are alleging is quite an interesting theory or could be a case of 2 + 2 = 6. Like to see how this plays out.

Article below.

https://letsgohorseracing.com.au/

IS THERE SOME POLITICAL CHICANERY BEHIND THE LOY APPEAL OR DOES RACING NSW HAVE SOMETHING TO HIDE WITH COVID POSITIVES?

WHEN are the Sydney racing ‘spin doctors’ for the almighty one of Racing NSW,  Peter V’landys, going to publish the story and identity of the top trainer and jockeys who have allegedly tested positive to COVID-19?

That’s a legitimate question posed today in an EXCLUSIVE by ARCHIE BUTTERFLY on his subscriber-only website, peterprofit.com and we at LGHR are reliably informed that he is spot-on.

It follows the story about Norm Loy, the small-time trainer from Albury who was scrubbed out for three months for allegedly bringing racing into disrepute by tweeting his legitimately held but poorly expressed opinions about the NSW Premier and her decisions with regard to the COVID lockdowns.

Loy has decided to appeal his sentence, and leading Melbourne racing barrister Damian Sheales has taken on the case, reportedly pro-bono (for free).

Sheales has lodged an entry of appearance, which means that he informed Racing NSW that he was on the job for Loy.

Can you believe this?

‘The Butterfly’ reports that within hours Racing NSW had engaged Sydney’s No 1 silk, Bret Walker SC to run their defence to Loy’s appeal.

Walker is said to charge $27,500 a day. The case will take at least a day to be heard, maybe two. Walker will also need time to prepare – up to two days. On that basis the cost could blow out to $110,000.

It doesn’t end there. Insiders say Walker SC has added at least one or even two solicitors to his legal team and is also said to have engaged Junior Counsel to assist him. The estimated costs of this would be: Junior Counsel ($6,000-$8,000 a day) and the lawyers ($5,000 each).

What all this means is that Racing NSW is prepared to spend up to $200,000 to defend an appeal made by a small-time trainer about a penalty for sending a disparaging private tweet about the Premier on a public issue that wasn’t directly about racing.

It just doesn’t make sense and as Archie Butterfly reports: ONLY Peter V’landys has the power at Racing NSW to authorise such a level of spending.

Why has he done it over such a seemingly innocuous issue?

Here’s the punchline from ‘The Butterfly’:

‘I wrote earlier about how the State Government approval for a crowd of 5,000 on Everest Day was contingent upon NSW hitting the 70 per cent vaccination target.

What I didn’t tell you is that a jockey and a very prominent leading trainer had tested positive to COVID after being at various racing and training venues.

Since that time – last Friday in fact – another prominent jockey has tested positive, despite being vaccinated and carrying no obvious symptoms of the virus.

The jockey who threw a positive on Friday had been in contact with several leading Sydney trainers and jockeys at trackwork at a triangular racecourse in the Sydney western suburbs on the day that his test blew up with a plus sign. One of these jockeys is among the best in the land.

The infected jockey immediately notified Racing NSW of the result of his test.

It was kept secret, and the jockeys who had contact with the rider were permitted to ride at Randwick the very next day.

These jockeys were subjected to rapid antigen testing on race morning and recorded a negative result, but so had the infected jockey on other occasions during the week.

There are huge questions about the efficacy of rapid antigen testing, particularly in asymptomatic people who take the test. The Irish Times highlighted that country’s Government’s doubts about it in an article published just yesterday (Tuesday).

This is the question that Archie Butterfly has raised and so should the rest of the industry in this country:

Has the appointment of Bret Walker SC and his team been made because Peter V’landys is desperately trying to keep Sydney racing going until the end of the Everest carnival, and footy until the end of the finals, and is attempting to keep the Premier sweet?

Is this a cynical exercise in political chicanery that is far bigger than Norm Loy, but has cast him as the meat in the Sandwich.

When will the ‘love children’ of V’landys in the Sydney racing media do their jobs and tell the racing public who tested positive last Friday?

Does the NSW State Government know?

Does the NSW Premier know?

Will the Norm Loy appeal not be the only matter that the high priced genius of a silk who got George Pell off conducts on behalf of Racing NSW?’

LGHR was surprised when RSN in Victoria could not get the Racing NSW Chief Steward on air to answer questions about the COVID issue on Saturday morning.

We also wonder how south of the border JAMIE KAH and her party-goers must be feeling when they read what is allegedly happening (more to the point not happening) in NSW, especially after they were hung out to dry by Racing Victoria and its stewards?

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« 2021-Sep-23, 07:38 AM Reply #796 »
Hmmmm,

The judge may get a work out in this one.

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