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« 2011-Mar-15, 06:36 AM Reply #25 »
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The book does not hold back on Tripp's criminal record for SP bookmaking, warts and all. Personally, I think the book is written without fear or favour to Tripp and if anyone has a knowledge of the punting in the 1970-1980's they will find the book a good read.


The large print was a deal clincher for me, and I bought the book yesterday and managed to just finish it amid Adelaide Cup distractions.

It would have been more accurate to retitle it "Tripe about Tripp".

For it contains not one syllable about the VITAB fraud. (A simple google will verify that expression is perfectly apt and immune to litigation.)

The VITAB fraud is the Rosetta Stone for decrypting the hieroglyphs veneering Alan Tripp. There can be no valid biography of Tripp without a thorough review of that outrage.

That illuminating property of the VITAB fraud also applies to Zeljko Ranogajec and the associated inevitable demise of horseracing worldwide.

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« 2011-Mar-17, 11:14 AM Reply #26 »
I have just finished reading the book “Beating the Odds”, written by Nichola Garvey, which in essence is the life story of Allan Tripp who started out as a small time SP in Melbourne back in the 1970’s and finished up in Vanuatu running the Number One Betting Shop before on selling the business to Sportingbet, the company of which Michael Sullivan is the CEO.

In 1998 Tripp was approached by Robbie Waterhouse as Cinemagic, Waterhouse’s public entertainment company, was interested in buying an offshore betting business.The offer to Tripp was $10 million in cash plus a ‘significant number of shares with reasonable voting rights’ in Cinemagic,


Cinemagic had a number of high-profile directors; one of whom was Zeljko Ranogajec, who even then was reputed to be the biggest gambler in the world.

Tripp mused over the offer but could not see himself going into partnership with the Waterhouses and Zeljko.

In 2002 Tripp sold the business to Sportingbet for $100 million

That is one bet Zeljko did not win.  :shy:




http://www.delisted.com.au/Company/1937

Above is a fascinating summary of Cinimagic - presumably the company in question.

It turns out to have used a variety of names and owners until finally acquired by Mark Read.

However there is the interesting situation where intially Zeljko & RWW both had a piece of the company.

RWW then tries to establish it as an Internet gambling site in Vanuatu.

And eventually Zeljko sues its related namesake for exercising discretion over discretionary kickbacks to him!

http://www.bettingonline.com.au/betting-online-articles/2001/7/5/waterhouse-to-list-vanuatu-online-betting-shop/

http://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/sinodisp/au/cases/cth/FMCA/2009/9.html?query=palicave


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« 2011-May-06, 05:09 PM Reply #27 »
The image I conjure of Paul Keating winding down is tinkering with antique clocks, accompanied by a Mahler symphony in the background.

Certainly he's not the first name that springs to mind when exploring the implications of Saint Goanna's habit of providing bordellos for politicians.

So I was taken aback to see a photo opportunity featuring Keating and Tripp in Nichola Garvey's reality-deprived opus.

However it turns out that the Keating angle was not confined to that aberration.

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2006/05/22/1148150189153.html

Turns out the Silver Bodgie was not the only one of our leaders to enjoy opportunities in corruption-ridden Vanuatu - the Belarus of the Pacific.

An apt moment to reprise Keating's aphorism which I have used as a signatu

"In any horse race I always back Self Interest
At least I know it's a trier"

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« 2011-May-13, 03:33 PM Reply #28 »
Vanuatu's Willy Jimmy and corruption links are not very hard to find.

Willy Jimmy the horse runs in the Scone Cup @16:05.

Owned by the Sportsbet Syndicate managed by Matthew Tripp son of our most convicted SP bookmaker.

Reminds me of the dangers of actually looking at form guides. May tend to hamper one's objectivity.

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« 2011-May-13, 04:09 PM Reply #29 »
Hope ya backed him eachway.

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« 2011-May-13, 04:15 PM Reply #30 »
Hope ya backed him eachway.

Each Way is an anachronism which has has no role in this millennium.

Which I could say the same for Jimmy's, Tripp Senior's, Hawke's, Zeljko's and Kolomanski's continuing capers.

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« 2011-May-13, 04:26 PM Reply #31 »
Jesus  :censored: ing christ I hope you backed for the place ?

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« 2011-May-13, 04:43 PM Reply #32 »
Jesus  :censored: ing christ I hope you backed for the place ?

The race was kind to me, but I left it all up to my robot who was oblivious to my irrational reaction to having the proceeds of criminal fraud rammed up my nose.

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« 2011-May-25, 03:09 PM Reply #33 »
Another participant in the VITAB fraud (which in turn evolved into the Tasmanian benevolent society for leviathans) was Michael Bastian.

Here's an apt eulogy to the bastion of integrity who came out through the bathroom window:

http://www.smh.com.au/news/Business/Highflyer-was-just-another-con-man/2004/12/05/1102182154865.html

He could steal, and he could so rob

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And in this more recent article our socialist's socialist PM pops up:

A working class hero is so hard to be

http://www.smh.com.au/national/party-boy-lived-fast-lost-30m-died-young-20090801-e53w.html
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« 2011-Aug-20, 08:04 AM Reply #34 »
http://www.afr.com/?&s_kwcid=TC|14991|afr||S|b|9445451397

New article about Zeljko's mentor Alan Woods apparently just published.

If anyone has an Internet copy legally avilable for dissemination, I'm sure a number here would be very interested.

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« 2012-Feb-12, 07:24 AM Reply #35 »
Story in today's AFR I gather  anyone confirm.

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« 2012-Feb-12, 10:37 AM Reply #36 »
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Go to thread on "Zeljko Exposed'

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« 2012-Feb-12, 11:55 AM Reply #37 »
I've got the article in print format. (Weekend AFR is $3 and not a bad read).

Earned $44 million over 3.5 years from an initial outlay of $200,000 betting on US tracks.

He stated this in court (trying to get back $8.5 million in rebates off a bookie).

Of $52 million profit, $44 million was earned in rebates. The US Race clubs proceeded to blackball the bookie's company through which the rebates were paid.

Article mentions the Tasmanian Tote (TT) disaster as previously reported on this forum i.e. In spite of nearly $1 billion in turnover in 3 years, made only $1.5 million last year. Tatts paid $103 million for TT when it became a basket case.

A Macquaries Equity report said that the average rebate was 10.5% to "punters like Ranogajec". Dick McIlwain stated "The ordinary punter is subsidising these guys".

Article starts on page 44 if anyone buys the AFR. Well worth a read.

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« 2012-May-12, 07:11 AM Reply #39 »

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« 2012-May-12, 07:56 AM Reply #40 »
Yeah, like he won't be betting here. That's a joke. The only ones who'll be missing out are the ATO. He'll still bet here but from a tax haven.

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« 2012-May-12, 08:01 AM Reply #41 »
"As far as we're concerned it's business as usual," Mr Tamer said. "It will have no financial impact on our returns to the Queensland racing industry."


Is Brad Tamer the most clueless individual on this planet? Every time he is quoted in an article he talks complete nonsence. Of course it will have a financial impact of 7% of your busines disappears.

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« 2012-May-12, 08:09 AM Reply #42 »
"As far as we're concerned it's business as usual," Mr Tamer said. "It will have no financial impact on our returns to the Queensland racing industry."


Is Brad Tamer the most clueless individual on this planet? Every time he is quoted in an article he talks complete nonsence. Of course it will have a financial impact of 7% of your busines disappears.

Rubbish!

Do you really imagine Overs will start appearing!

Others will mop up big time.

Turnover is now meaningless given the obscene kickbacks.

But revenue will soon recover, if not increase.

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Still I have difficulty believing Zeljko's money is really leaving.

Particularly since he's now cohabitating with Tabcorp's Isle of Man hub!

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« 2012-May-12, 08:32 AM Reply #43 »
They are parimutual, you muppett.

Overs are meaningless to their business model, turnover is their only form of revenue.

 I tend to agree he wont disappear but to suggest if he did wouldnt hurt their business is wrong.

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« 2012-May-12, 08:41 AM Reply #44 »
They are parimutual, you muppett.

Overs are meaningless to their business model, turnover is their only form of revenue.

 I tend to agree he wont disappear but to suggest if he did wouldnt hurt their business is wrong.

You would do yourself a big favour by conceding the obvious fact that I know excessively more than you do about such matters.

Buggered if anyone can figure out what you're trying to say, but:

Turnover is meaningless for Tabcorp .

Do I need to remind anyone about the Tote Tasmania fiasco, where high turnover coincided with it going bust?


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There is an interesting story why Zeljko was getting obscene kickbacks in South Australia.

And why did McIlwain not know that was happening in a Tote under his command!
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« 2017-Apr-10, 05:07 PM Reply #45 »
Accidentally stumbled on this alternate thread when trying to check a development.

However I'm sure many will find it of relevance.

And the first article (clearly by Max Presnell) has some weird errors.

As does Walsh's masterpiece (freely available at your public library).

I understand the truth is closer to:

Circa 1984 Neville Wran briefly decriminalised Blackjack, allowing Blackjack tables in clubs.

That's why Zeljko, Shelley and Walsh arrived in Sydney. To run a table.

Zeljko generously kept the numerous patrons there well lubricated.

They first stepped onto a Randwick meet on Australia Day, 1985 (not 1984. as Walsh claims).

And made themselves quite conspicuous to 100's of patrons, with some memorable social skirmishes.

Some Loch Ness monster.

They lived in Ultimo, close to the Vulcan and Fairfax, where The Gadfly penned the original 1993 article.

But they set up their PubTAB operation (and vanished from Tracks) at a Redfern Pub.

The publican would play ignorant, but anybody driving past that extremely congested spot would be able to spot a 2nd floor festooned with any number of TV and Computer Screens energising away.

All under Max's nose, so I'm curious why his version is so different.

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« 2017-Apr-10, 06:24 PM Reply #46 »
If you want to read what a court case back in 2012 heard, then click on the link below.

The content is far too long to submit on the forum.

It makes for interesting reading.

https://aussiecriminals.com.au/tag/zeljko-ranogajec/

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« 2017-Apr-10, 06:46 PM Reply #47 »
Look, many would have already seen that, and there's nothing particularly wrong that I can spot.

The problematic part is the heading which could be a bonanza for defamation lawyers.

Trust me I have had far than my fair share of first-hand experience of that scene, over the years.

As one example I once received a "courtesy call" from Betfair censors.

My response was along the lines of "but it's in fucking Hansard!"

Didn't do me a lot of good.

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« 2017-Apr-10, 06:57 PM Reply #48 »
Look, many would have already seen that, and there's nothing particularly wrong that I can spot.

The problematic part is the heading which could be a bonanza for defamation lawyers.

Trust me I have had far than my fair share of first-hand experience of that scene, over the years.

As one example I once received a "courtesy call" from Betfair censors.

My response was along the lines of "but it's in fucking Hansard!"

Didn't do me a lot of good.

I wasn't sitting in judgment as judge and jury but a lot would not be aware of what all the fuss is about.

My personal stance is if a Government run TAB are crazy enough to agree to terms of trade then the finger should be pointed back at the Government.

I don't agree with betting rebates but at the end of the day it's no different to the major supermarkets trading rebates that all but distroy the small business owners.

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