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« Last post by specialweek2 on 2018-Jan-18, 11:02 PM  »
Westie continues the hot run.

Westie      229
Media       180
WOD         167
JWH           155
Bmac        132
SW             128
RH                55
PP                13

620 OUT
Westie       651
Media        582
JWH            504
SW             477
WOD          395
RH              383
Bmac         366
PP              195
Spudda       75
« Last post by specialweek2 on 2018-Jan-18, 07:33 PM  »
Results late tonight.
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Racing Talk / Race Records Of Champion Racehorses
« Last post by gunbower on 2018-Jan-18, 07:14 PM  »
Dave, no question in my mind that Galilee was the greatest stayer I have seen. Carrying and conceding weight is one thing , but doing it over ground in my opinion is an even harder ask. The day he made them look second raters in the Sydney Cup with the equivalent of 13 kilos over the limit defined the greatness of the animal. Prince Grant was no hack either. I don't think I have seen  a better 2000 metre horse than Tobin either. We all know that he was a magnificent WFA horse but his performances in handicaps and throw in a VRC Derby as well and I tend to agree up to 2000 metres his record is better than the Kings. However they were both super gallopers whose memories I will always cherish.
« Last post by wily ole dog on 2018-Jan-18, 06:10 PM  »
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Racing Talk / Race Records Of Champion Racehorses
« Last post by Dave on 2018-Jan-18, 04:14 PM  »
Thanks pwa, I really enjoyed that, great memories

Does anyone really believe KT could have done and won the races Tobin Bronze did? a Caulfield Cup with 9,10 a Doncaster with a huge weight? (I doubt Winx could match him either) Conversely anyone honestly think Tobin Bronze couldn't have won 3 Cox Plates if he had started in another one?? that is without talking about the opposition each is only opinion but for mine Tobin Bronze was the best 2000m(10 furlong) horse I have ever seen..........until the Diva came along Galilee was by far the greatest stayer that I have seen, now I am not so sure on that one, if they met in a MC I would have to back both
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Racing Talk / Race Records Of Champion Racehorses
« Last post by pwa54 on 2018-Jan-18, 03:10 PM  »
Envy you seeing them racing in the flesh, Dave.

Here's Tobin Bronze's Caulfield Cup

and Galilee's Melbourne Cup
Racing Talk / Race Records Of Champion Racehorses
« Last post by pwa54 on 2018-Jan-18, 03:01 PM  »
Couldn't agree more, Gunbower. That 1967 Autumn culminating in the Sydney Cup set the seal on Galilee's achievements the previous spring and Tobin Bronze was a superstar.

In the years between Tulloch and Kingston Town you could make a good case that they were the two best horses (Vain, maybe, aside) and it must have been a real treat for racegoers 50 years ago to see them head-to-head.
Each track has it's own character so the loss of any track diminishes racing I reckon, but it does seem inevitable.

Here's Max Presnell on Galilee and Tobin Bronze (before So You Think's overseas exploits)

Galilee remains a class above thanks to imposing rival Tobin Bronze
Max Presnell
The magnificence of Galilee can be gauged from Tobin Bronze, twice winner of the Cox Plate at Moonee Valley.

So You Think, the latest outstanding headliner developed by Bart Cummings, is being compared prematurely to Galilee. ''A horse's greatness is always judged by what he beats,'' Cummings wrote in Bart - My Life; and Galilee, certainly over more than 2000 metres, was superior to Tobin Bronze.

At that stage, the weight-for-age championship of Australasia didn't have the kudos it does now, and Cummings had the outstanding mare Light Fingers, mainly doing battle, unsuccessfully, with Tobin Bronze, while Galilee was on a Caulfield-Melbourne cups trail.

Galilee, ridden by John Miller, downed Tobin Bronze in the Caulfield Cup, Melbourne Cup, CB Fisher Plate and the Queen's Plate.

''This ain't a bloomin' horse, he's an express train,'' Miller opined.

In their Mackinnon Stakes clash before their 1966 Melbourne Cup rematch, Cummings divulged: ''Poor John Miller was called in because he rode the horse too cold.''

Tobin Bronze had scored easily in the 1966 Cox Plate previously, and apart from the major staying handicaps that spring, Galilee also had his measure in the weight-for-age Fisher Plate over 2400m.

The following season, Tobin Bronze was dynamic, apart from being beaten first-up in a sprint and the Queen's Plate over his favourite distance, 2000m, at Flemington - by Galilee. At his final campaign, Tobin Bronze bolted in first-up under 63 kilograms in a 1200m Moonee Valley sprint, and twice had the measure of Cummings's Melbourne Cup winner, Red Handed, that season.

In all, Tobin Bronze won nine races after going down to Galilee in the Fisher Plate, including the Doncaster, All Aged Stakes, Toorak, Caulfield Cup and Cox Plate.

Shortly after taking the Toorak, it was disclosed Tobin Bronze had been sold to the US but on the proviso he run in the Caulfield Cup, with the 1967 Cox Plate his swansong. About 37,000 crammed into Moonee Valley to see Tobin Bronze, which lived up to his name being a bronze chestnut. Tobin Bronze was 6-1 on, and was given a mighty ovation as he strode clear. Jockey Jim Johnson later paraded him down the straight to the cheer: ''We want Toby.''

Stateside, Tobin Bronze was third in the Washington International on a limited preparation, and from 16 starts there notched four wins.

Surely, So You Think hasn't a benchmark such as Tobin Bronze, rated by Analysis Of Australian Racehorses by Peter Pring as ''one of the best horses to race in Australia ''