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International Racing / Kentucky Derby 2018
« Last post by PoisonPen7 on 2018-May-21, 09:39 AM  »
Justify keeps Triple Crown bid alive

Kentucky Derby winner Justify has fought his to victory in the Preakness Stakes to keep his Triple Crown hopes alive.

The Bob Baffert-trained colt held off several hard-charging challengers in the fog on a sloppy track similar to the conditions he encountered in the DErby at Churchill Downs.

Baffert trained the most recent Triple Crown winner American Pharoah in 2015.

Justify showed no ill effects from a bruised heel on his left hind foot that was discovered in the aftermath of the Derby, an injury Baffert insisted would not be a problem.

Justify and Derby runner-up Good Magic went to the lead early and traded positions throughout the Preakness (1900m).

In the end Good Magic had to settle for fourth with Bravazo second, and Tenfold third.

"They had their own private match race," Baffert said. "He's just a great horse to handle all that pressure and keep on running."

Baffert tied veteran D. Wayne Lukas' record with his 14th victory in a Triple Crown race and matched 19th-century trainer R W Walden with his seventh Preakness title.

Baffert also remains undefeated with Derby winners in the Preakness following Silver Charm, Real Quiet, War Emblem and American Pharoah.

Justify showed more evidence of being the same kind of super horse as American Pharoah, and Baffert has repeatedly drawn comparisons between them

Jockey Mike Smith won the Preakness for just the second time in 17 tries, 25 years after his first aboard Prairie Bayou.

Justify is the 36th horse to win both the Kentucky Derby and Preakness.

"I'm so happy that we got it done," Baffert said. "I've never had one run that fast here."

The third leg of the Triple Crown is at Belmont in three weeks.

Jockey / Suspended Jockeys
« Last post by PoisonPen7 on 2018-May-21, 09:35 AM  »
Jordan Childs suspended for alcohol breach

Group One-winning jockey Jordan Childs will spend a month on the sidelines after failing a breathalyser test at the Bendigo races.

All jockeys riding at the meeting on Sunday were tested with Childs stood down when his reading was above the allowable .02.

A second test confirmed the high reading and Childs, who won the Blue Diamond Stakes on Written By in February, was later suspended for one month.

The 22-year-old took full responsibility and posted an apology on Twitter.

"Today at Bendigo I returned an alcohol above the illegal limit," Childs said..

"I have been suspended for 1 month. It was a clear mistake on my behalf. No excuses. No appeal. Safety is paramount. It's up to me to work hard and earn back respect."
« Last post by JWesleyHarding on 2018-May-21, 09:01 AM  »


Racing Talk / Kick Back for the Rebate Debate
« Last post by jfc on 2018-May-21, 08:42 AM  »
On Betfair, you know-


Therefore you can deduce the real price.

And transact if you consider that fair.

No one can challenge the fairness of such a set up.

Qld Gallops / 2018 Kingsford-Smith Cup G1 1350m May 26th
« Last post by PoisonPen7 on 2018-May-21, 08:15 AM  »

Of $700,000.1st $427,000, 2nd $143,500, 3rd $73,500, 4th $35,000, 5th $21,000 GROUP 1
Standard Weight for Age, Apprentices cannot claim.

60 nominations listed on Monday before the race.

Bookies have the top of the market as:

Le Romain 3.50
Impending 4.50
Care To Think 6.00
English 7.00
Spieth 12.00
Volpe Veloce 12.00
Endless Drama 17.00
Lucky Hussler 21.00
Perast 21.00
Danon Liberty 26.00
Foxplay 26.00
Most Important 26.00
Supido 26.00
Tulip 26.00
Voodoo Lad 26.00
Santa Ana Lane 34.00
First Among Equals 41.00
Glenall 41.00
Qld Gallops / 2018 Qld Oaks G1 2200m May 26th
« Last post by PoisonPen7 on 2018-May-21, 08:10 AM  »
Chris Waller has 8 of the 20 noms.

Without a doubt his best is the filly who has won her past 3 in impressive fashion Youngstar. Nice win in the Roses. Coral Coast was a good run as well.

1000 Guineas winner Aloisa was 3rd in the recent Vinery and 7th in the Oaks at Randwick and has a lot of class. Highway was 3 deep for a lot of the Roses and to hang on for 3rd was meritorious.
Qld Gallops / 2018 Qld Oaks G1 2200m May 26th
« Last post by PoisonPen7 on 2018-May-21, 07:58 AM  »

Of $500,000.1st $305,000, 2nd $102,500, 3rd $52,500, 4th $25,000, 5th $15,000 GROUP 1
Set Weights, Three-Years-Old, Fillies, Apprentices cannot claim.

Odds 21/05/18

Youngstar 2.70
Another Dollar 4.60
Aloisia 7.00
Savacool 8.50
Coral Coast 11.00
Sheezdashing 11.00
Terra Sancta 13.00
Play That Song 15.00
Tinkermosa 17.00
Highway 21.00
Miss Shanti 34.00
Twilighter 34.00
She's Reliable 51.00
Impulsive 61.00
Saint Katarina 61.00
Protest 81.00
Via Veneto 101.00
Delaney's Desire 251.00
She Salutes 251.00
Racing Talk / Kick Back for the Rebate Debate
« Last post by Antitab# on 2018-May-21, 07:57 AM  »
All true about Betfair.

However when the horse wins at 4/1 , depending on which state the race was run the punter can receive anywhere between $4.60 and $5.

Those who bet the biggest are paid $5 down to the little fish who receive  maximim comm rate and are paid the least at $4.60.

It may be packaged differently to a Pari mutual paying rebates but the result is the same.

You can tell from the name I post under that I am no fan of Tabcorp but paying rebates makes sense to me from their point of view.
« Last post by Brian Mc on 2018-May-21, 07:44 AM  »
R1   #4
R2   #4
R3   #7
R4   #10
R5   #4
R6   #7
R7   #5
R8   #2
Racing Talk / Kick Back for the Rebate Debate
« Last post by jfc on 2018-May-21, 07:41 AM  »

Betfair does exactly the same with commission rates. The biggest syndicate, has  been on 0 commission on Aust racing to provide liquidity since the day the “fair” opened.

Why no outcry re Betfair?

What Betfair does bears no resemblance to the Kickback malpractices of Tabcorp et al.

On Betfair you agree with a counterparty about the odds of a contingency.

If you transact then you get a price you believe is fair.

Any Kickback the counterparty may be getting is irrelevant to your prospects.