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O.P. « 2014-Aug-13, 05:43 PM »
The FFA seems to keep getting stuff right.

The FFA Cup is a brilliant concept for engaging the grass roots of the soccer community.

Now, 18 year old Thomas Love's scoring effort last night was reminiscent of Maradona in 1986.

Not sure why that's failed to crack You Tube so far.






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« 2014-Aug-28, 06:36 AM Reply #1 »
WSW has managed to scrape through to the Semis of the Asian Champions League, amid reportedly bizarre distractions.


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« 2014-Sep-13, 10:33 PM Reply #2 »
WSW has managed to scrape through to the Semis of the Asian Champions League, amid reportedly bizarre distractions.

Have to say, I wish the ACL was like the old European Cup - 2 legged knock out.  I find the group stages tedious, though that might have been Victory playing at Etihad in front of 5k.

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« 2014-Sep-14, 06:47 PM Reply #3 »
Very trying to keep up with these various leagues.

WSW continue their ACL away to FC Seoul in Korea on Wednesday.

And should they prevail over the A/H legs and crack the Final, that appears to be at 83+K capacity ANZ!

The FFA Cup is having a very long gap between matches. Next Round on the 25th.

It's extremely complex scheduling but there's no clear solution to simplify it, and right now it's working.


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« 2014-Sep-18, 05:58 PM Reply #4 »
After the scoreless draw in Korea last night, WSW only need to  win at home to qualify for the ACL Final.

In the FFA Sydney Olympic is out. Courtesy of Victorian non-household-name Bentleigh Greens.

Weird situation where Sydney had to play within ~48 hours of winning the Grand Final.

Surely there was lots of time to reschedule, given the season hasn't actually started!

Giant killer Adelaide City won again to crack the 8.

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« 2014-Sep-18, 09:48 PM Reply #5 »
In the FFA Sydney Olympic is out. Courtesy of Victorian non-household-name Bentleigh Greens.

Apparently the game was played on an artificial pitch, which should have been an advantage to Bentleigh as they have a number of those pitches at their home ground.

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« 2014-Sep-25, 07:34 AM Reply #6 »
Yesterday David Gallop presented a State of Soccer address that was well covered. Presumably because of how surprisingly well Soccer has been growing in a number of segments.

The 20,000+ total FFA Cup attendance on Tuesday was further testament to that growth.

However Roy Masters was not overly generous in his assessment.

Here is no one in NRLdom to compare with Lowy who is surely Australia's most successful self-made businessman, so why did Roy bother trying?

Then, one key difference between Soccer and rival codes is its enormous expense associated with regular International commitments.

But matches in China, Japan, Korea and the Middle East could harmonise with diplomatic  and trade meetings for the economic benefit of all concerned parties.

So Roy's suggestion that Soccer is getting more than its fair share of government handouts may reveal his vested leanings.

http://www.goal.com/en-au/news/4016/main/2014/09/18/5113714/gallop-football-has-a-great-story-to-tell

http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/given-a-free-hand-david-gallop-tackles-his-ffa-role-with-zest-20140918-10isqo.html

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/football/more-than-20000-fans-turned-up-for-the-four-ffa-cup-round-of-16-games-on-tuesday-night/story-fni2wcjl-1227068380833


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« 2014-Oct-01, 09:30 PM Reply #7 »
WSW make the final of the Asian Champions League. It is a big achievement against so many far more cashed up asian clubs.  8-)

They play a previous ACL champion in the saudi team Al Ain in the final.

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« 2014-Oct-02, 06:08 PM Reply #8 »
Very lame media coverage of such a massive achievement by WSW.

The main culprits are WSW, FFA and ACL.

They should have had reports on their sites as soon as the match finished.

According to ABC the Final is a 2 leg affair, and the stadium has not yet been determined.

I'd think the sane choice would be Allianz as that's a far better atmosphere in a compact ground as opposed to the unsuitable ANZ paddock.

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« 2014-Oct-09, 05:17 PM Reply #9 »
FFA have a number of things that may be going for them.

Villa is the best credentialled player to ever spend 3 months here.

WSW just keep on giving every way.

Lowy (bypassing any Corporate infringement glitches) is my pick of best performing Australian immigrant.

Gallop isn't long on charisma, but the bottom line is chugging along.

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« 2014-Oct-09, 05:20 PM Reply #10 »
+ the proper football codes have finished and the cricket hasn't started yet.

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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:13 PM Reply #11 »
+ the proper football codes have finished and the cricket hasn't started yet.
Love to peruse your parameters supporting your delusions.

What facts do you have?

Soccer is pushing towards 2 million attendance.

How many rival codes rack up such figures?

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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:20 PM Reply #12 »
Love to peruse your parameters supporting your delusions.

What facts do you have?

Soccer is pushing towards 2 million attendance.

How many rival codes rack up such figures?


Are you saying Soccer has more people through the gate than AFL and NRL per season?

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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:29 PM Reply #13 »
Are you saying Soccer has more people through the gate than AFL and NRL per season?
Why on earth would you infer anything of the sort!

Soccer is growing at a faster than rival cpdes.

2 million is a pretty good figure as a base line.

Feel free to clue me in on NRL figures.

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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:37 PM Reply #14 »
Just a quick browse of this forum which is full of sports nuts of all persuasions reveals these 'delusions':

NRL 2014 thread (started Sept. 2014) - 1807 replies/26477 views
AFL 2014 thread (started March 2014) - 250 replies/5463 views
NFL 14/15 thread (started Aug. 2014) - 18 replies/2836 views
A League thread (started March 2009!!) - 125 replies/1608 views
A League 15 thread (started Aug. 2014) - 13 replies/683 views


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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:45 PM Reply #15 »
In other words you can't produce objective numbers to make any viable claim to either of the Rugby codes making any traction.

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« 2014-Oct-09, 06:58 PM Reply #16 »
As far as I can tell NRL had over 3 million and AFL had over 6 million! (is this right?)

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« 2014-Oct-09, 07:14 PM Reply #17 »
Why do I get the feeling that I have walked into a trap; set by one of those toothless hillbillies in America that think the world is ending tomorrow so are stock piling tin food and water?

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« 2014-Oct-09, 09:38 PM Reply #18 »
Even back when I was playing soccer had the largest junior base by far.

Nothing has changed and it still lags behind the other codes.  :sleep:

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« 2014-Oct-10, 04:27 PM Reply #19 »
Even back when I was playing soccer had the largest junior base by far.

Nothing has changed and it still lags behind the other codes.  :sleep:
Soccer definitely had the smallest junior base when I was perpetually warming benches.

My opinions are based on figures and I believe a significant amount has changed.

I'd imagine Soccer has now surpassed Union, despite minimal mainstream positive coverage.

The J, K and China, as well as the growing USA offer more opportunities for local players, with lesser geographic disruption.

The emerging City phenomenon is just win, win, win, win.

In Tennis is you're outside the Top 100(?) the caper can be tough.

With Soccer if you crack the Top 200(?) then you'd be flatulating in silk.

Talented Australian soccer playing juniors who have a choice of codes should find that Soccer is their best bet.

But another season is starting so let's just monitor the figures.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_Australian_football_code_crowds

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« 2014-Oct-10, 07:57 PM Reply #20 »
I'm 42 JFC, I played from 6 through to about 33, you must be a bit older than me then?

Soccer has easily passed Union which has been putting people to sleep for years now.


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« 2014-Oct-10, 08:18 PM Reply #21 »
I'm 42 JFC, I played from 6 through to about 33, you must be a bit older than me then?

Soccer has easily passed Union which has been putting people to sleep for years now.


Not sure why this is an issue.

I thought my regular dementia  references would have been an ample clue.

But yes, I'm significantly older than you and coming to terms with that is character building.

Onto the game in progress.

Big plus for SBS showing it truthfully live.

Looks to be a decent crowd.

WSW is having a reality check or bad hair day.

Melbourne seems to have lost its way in recent times so this presumed win should spice things up somewhat.




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« 2014-Oct-12, 03:16 PM Reply #22 »
The Round's not over yet.

But I managed to catch the Offsiders repeat to confirm my assessment of Villa's clinical goal-scoring debut last night.

Think the league will be extremely content with that outcome.

The commentary from the Offsiders team was impressive and a welcome change from Leigh Sales' recent appalling effort.

Crowds so far have been respectable but not earth-shattering.

Presumably WSW and City will have home games next week (or soon) and the figures from those will be interesting.

Victory supporters will surely be thinking they're in for a good season after dismantling WSW to that extent.

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« 2014-Oct-20, 07:44 AM Reply #23 »
Round 2 saw a new all time overall attendance record of 106,082.

As well as records for both Adelaide and Sydney.

And any number of other records that might be conjured up.

And the Melbourne Derby is next Saturday night. Interestingly at the higher capacity Etihad.

WSW's midweek game is presumably to cope with the Champions Final scheduling. Finally some apparent sanity!

Meanwhile the 3 rival football codes seem to be trying to outdo themselves in mutually assured destruction.

http://www.ultimatealeague.com/records.php?type=att&season=HW

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« 2014-Oct-20, 09:57 PM Reply #24 »
jfc,

I am not sure it is that interesting that the Derby is at Etihad.  Victory are contracted to play 5 home games a year at Etihad - one of them is always the Derby, I know last year there were 40k+ there.


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