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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2017-Feb-05, 03:18 AM »
Discussion thread for the upcoming season. Both men and women's comps.


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« 2017-Feb-05, 03:22 AM Reply #1 »
TV ratings bonanza for AFLW opener

FRIDAY night's historic AFL Women's opening match between Carlton and Collingwood was a ratings hit with nearly a million viewers tuning in.

A national TV audience of 896,000, including 593,000 metropolitan free-to-air viewers, 180,000 regional free-to-air viewers and 123,000 on Fox Footy, watched as the Blues won the inaugural AFLW clash in front of a sold-out crowd at Ikon Park.

The Melbourne metropolitan audience of 424,000 is on par with the average Melbourne metropolitan audience for Friday night AFL matches.

AFL general manager of game and marketing development Simon Lethlean said the AFLís broadcast partners, the Seven Network, Foxtel and Telstra, along with radio partners, had done an outstanding job in showcasing AFLW to fans around Australia.

"Our broadcast partners have shown great faith in NAB AFL Womenís from day one and invested heavily in delivering a broadcast that is first class as always," he said.

"Last nightís ratings result is great reward for all their hard work.

"We hope fans who watched last night enjoyed the game, and urge all our supporters to continue to get behind AFLW matches throughout the eight-week season."

A capacity crowd of 24,568 packed in to watch the historic clash with a further 2000 spectators turned away after an official lockout was declared.

The AFL has already raised the possibility of moving more AFLW matches in the future to cope with massive demand.

The opening round of AFLW continues on Saturday night with Adelaide taking on GWS and the Western Bulldogs up against Fremantle.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-02-04/tv-ratings-bonanza-for-aflw-opener

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« 2017-Feb-05, 09:08 AM Reply #2 »
Sometimes skills not great, but can't fault the way they had a crack.  Vescio a great pick up for Carlton. Moana Hope looks like she's trimmed up significantly, shame she didn't get much of a chance to show her skills. Loved watching Katie Brennan in the all stars game last year, she was silk. Unfortunately missed the Bulldogs game last night.

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« 2017-Feb-05, 11:19 AM Reply #3 »
Gee some of us will watch anything when it comes to AFL.
Collingwood were $1.80 favs and kicked the first goal of the match in the first few minutes. Didn't kick another one for the rest of the match. Yes the girls were having a go but the skills were deplorable.
20,000 fans on the first night. Once the real stuff starts that will dwindle down to 200.
I can sort of understand Blues and Tigers fans talking it up after what they have been subjected to the last 20 years but the rest of you have no excuse.
I'm also glad to see its mandatory to have a ponytail so they look half feminine.

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« 2017-Feb-05, 12:31 PM Reply #4 »
I suspect ratings will drop off significantly nationwide, except Victoria of course

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« 2017-Feb-05, 12:55 PM Reply #5 »
I think it's in a pretty good slot. Wouldn't expect the same crowds all the time, but I don't think they'll fall off the cliff.

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« 2017-Mar-08, 05:43 PM Reply #6 »
Unfortunately the standard of play is no better than a Boys Under 14 competition. I read the other day it should be the AWFL( pronounced phonetically ) , not the  AFLW.
IMO in two years, unless the standard dramatically improves, television ratings it will be no different to Women's Basketball.

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« 2017-Apr-03, 12:24 AM Reply #7 »
Tigers off to their usual flying start. Any bets on when the merry-go-round will stop?

Demons two from two on the back of a kind draw - they travel and play the Cats next week.

Suns, Freo, Lions, Blues and Saints all look like write-offs after only two rounds.

Swans have a tough draw but none out of two is not a great start.

Very divided comp again in ability.

Port have started off the season well and the Derby next week should be some sort of game

Power to enjoy huge win after 'brutal off-season'

PORT Adelaide coach Ken Hinkley will make a point of letting his side enjoy Sunday night's strong win over Fremantle before turning his attention to what will be one of the most anticipated Showdowns in recent seasons.

The Power and Crows will stage a top-of-the-table Showdown for the first time ever, and both have started the year 2-0 for the first time, meaning anticipation will be at fever pitch in Adelaide this week.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-02/power-keen-to-enjoy-massive-win-after-brutal-offseason

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« 2017-Apr-22, 10:32 AM Reply #8 »
That was some thrashing....

'Tough lesson' will help young Blues grow: Bolton

CARLTON coach Brendon Bolton has hinted the young line-up which was brushed aside by Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval on Friday night will be given more time to find its feet. 

The Blues were crushed by 90 points in primetime and came in for some scathing critisicism around their defensive game plan.

Carlton kicked just two goals to three-quarter time and had one goalkicker (Levi Casboult) to that point.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-22/tough-lesson-will-help-young-blues-grow-bolton

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« 2017-May-08, 02:32 AM Reply #9 »
Anyone tip the 9 this week?   :no:


Didn't happen anywhere, methinks. 

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« 2017-May-09, 08:16 PM Reply #10 »
That was some thrashing....

'Tough lesson' will help young Blues grow: Bolton

CARLTON coach Brendon Bolton has hinted the young line-up which was brushed aside by Port Adelaide at Adelaide Oval on Friday night will be given more time to find its feet. 

The Blues were crushed by 90 points in primetime and came in for some scathing critisicism around their defensive game plan.

Carlton kicked just two goals to three-quarter time and had one goalkicker (Levi Casboult) to that point.


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2017-04-22/tough-lesson-will-help-young-blues-grow-bolton

Has been a while since I've been on here, but my god I love little Bolts.  nice to see Carlton ahs been moving in a positive direction since August/September 2015.  Finally welcomed the professional world into the club instead of throwing the cheque book around.

Some real promising signs for the kids in our team, SPS, Marchbank, Williamson, McCreadie, Weitering, Charlie Curnow etc.

Might not eventually win a flag, but it won't be from want of trying.

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« 2017-May-23, 02:24 AM Reply #11 »
And now it looks like the bounce has gone.  We're going to throw it up.


The AFL have gone so far as to present the bounce contributing to mental illness.


That's right.  The stress of having to bounce the ball is having a disastrous effect on our men/women umpires.


You just can't beat "mental illness."  It can't be disproved. 


I miss my dad.  I lost him in 2011.  I miss him a lot.


But I'm almost glad he's not around to see this shit. 


Not only have they turned the greatest game ever into a quasi rugby/basketball crapshoot, but now they even want the bounce gone. 


We'll soon get to see 36 players in a forward pocket waiting for a ball  throw up.  Oh joy. 


 :censored:  off AFL. 

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« 2017-May-23, 07:34 AM Reply #12 »
Quite right Firezuki. The AFL should be celebrating the unique things that make this our true national game. What next ? Maybe get rid of the hand pass or outlaw leaping for the ball without having two feet on the ground in case it is a health and safety issue ? The world has seriously gone stark raving mad.

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« 2017-May-23, 10:45 AM Reply #13 »
Interesting argument from Gerrard Healy regarding this On The Couch last night. He suggested throwing the ball up gives a good ruckman a better opportunity to ply his trade and create attacking options for his team. He showed examples of Sandilands having a picnic and suggested this was better than seeing a pile up of bodies over the ball after a slightly wayward bounce. He also said the young female umpire should not have been put in the position of bouncing the ball in her first senior game but I guess if it's equality you want then she has to bounce it. The way I see it, some umps are really good at the bounce and others not so good, so why not leave it to the ones who are good at it?

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« 2017-May-23, 08:14 PM Reply #14 »
Weren't the ground conditions a factor in her difficulty to bounce?

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« 2017-May-23, 08:18 PM Reply #15 »
I was at the game, all the other umpires had no difficulty with their ball height when bouncing the ball, I think her ball drop was too high, resulting in a low bounce.
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« 2017-May-28, 06:29 PM Reply #16 »
Eleni Glouftsis canít bounce a football.
I think thatís why she has become the first female umpire.
And now the AFL, in order to prevent further embarrassment, is considering removing the bounce altogether.
Which leads to the question: if females are allowed to throw up at the footy, can we all do it too?
This woman has done more to revolutionise Australiaís game than anyone before her. So much so that itís likely sheís killed off the much-loved feature that sets this sport apart from any other. And sheís done it in just one game in which she didnít even play.
Well done.
Just let it be known that at the rate things are going, Iím probably going to switch off from the AFL shortly. I might turn towards that game where they throw a massive cheese off a cliff and suicidal maniacs race it to the bottom.
But on the way, Iíll have a whinge.
I just donít care about female footy.
I donít care about the womenís competition that finished earlier this year. There is more skill at a country Div 3 game.
I donít care about female umpires. They are unable to do what male umpires have been doing for over 150 years.
And I donít care to hear from female commentators. Iíd rather listen to an ex-player than a female talking about the groin injuries suffered by such and such a player during the first quarter.
Let it be known that I long for the days when the AFL was an all-male affair. You know, the days when the players were blokes, the umpires were blokes and the commentators were as well.
Back in those days goal umpires wore cool hats, coats and sunglasses. ĎProfessionalismí has killed that right off. Now we have AFL diversity officers and a make-believe team called GWS. Give me a break.
Some might claim this is sexist, racist or bigoted. But so is everything these days. So I donít care.
More importantly, the AFL has decided that it has a voice in arguing for all-male marriages. No one claims this is sexist, so I donít see why all-male AFL games should be sexist either.
And on this point, I make special mention of Kevin Sheedy. His promotion of AFL-backed gay marriage came with this cracker of a line:
ďThe great thing about gay people is theyíre beautiful human beings who donít do the crap that heterosexuals do.Ē
Iím not exactly sure what Kevin (whose Wikipedia page makes reference to his Ďdevoutí Catholic parents) means. There is only one thing that heterosexuals can do that homosexuals canít: conceive a child.
If you donít understand how all this works, then itís clear that you probably suffered through State Sex Ed 101, had your logical faculties lobotomised and were then granted a PhD in Safe Schools. That would make you a well-adjusted imbecile.
Sorry. But itís true.
Anyway, Iím not so sure that Iíd describe the power to create life as Ďcrapí, but then again Iím not a gay marriage advocate like Kevin Sheedy. No doubt his devout Catholic parents would be proud of his contribution to this debate and his description of how he happened to come into this world.
Oh, by the way AFL, I donít care for your views on marriage either. Your entire Ďindustryí revolves around grown men chasing a ball. Like most humans, I have a soft spot for stupidity which is why I watch it.
But an industry devoted to stupidity and pretty much staffed by Ďathletesí who get paid a motza to tattoo their entire bodies is probably not well placed to enlighten humanity on its basic social foundation: marriage and the family unit.
Now that Iíve got this whinge off my chest, Iíll heap Ďfaintí praise on Eleni Glouftsis.
Amidst all the frustration this week, she also made me smile. With this quote:
ďThe AFLW was so fantastic to show everyone that women can be involved in all aspects of the game, and that it should be a game for everyone in Australia. Now with women players and hopefully more women umpires at the elite level, hopefully we can show them that women are just as capable as men.Ē
I love it when things are so fantastic. You generally know at that point that people are just making things up, the worldís about to end or the bad guy in the movie is about to kill everybody.
Fortunately, Eleni was just making things up. Women are not involved in all aspects of the game. And they are not just as capable as men on the footy field.
Thatís why not one single AFL team has drafted a woman Ė not even the best one from the womenís comp. They just canít cut it on the footy field. The AFL might talk Ďdiversityí but its teams want to win. Hence the reason they are sexistly all-male.
This should not be taken as criticism of women. Itís just the truth.
And anyone who wants to see courage should visit a maternity ward. Itís on display there every single day. Unfortunately, female courage in that field is pretty much held in contempt these days, along with the courage of mothers who then give up everything to devote their lives to their children.
But when it comes to footy, itís a manís world. It always will be.
The AFL might be stupid but its teams still want to win. So much so that they have not yet succumbed to politically-correct experimentation.
But if thatís what youíre after, I suggest you try the Army. Itís just set 25% recruitment quotas for women and, unlike the AFL, thereís clearly no requirement for it win a physical contestÖ


Bernard Gaynor.  Well said Bernie.

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« 2017-Jun-27, 07:17 PM Reply #17 »
Bachar Houli, to my knowledge, the only Muslim AFL footballer has unbelievably gone to the limit to get off a one-match ban for striking another player resulting in him being concussed and unable to play any further part in the game.
Houli, who only the other day received a $600,000 grant from the federal government to encourage Muslim women to play AFL, has produced at the AFL tribunal glowing references from Malcolm Turnbull & Waleed Aly, that his act of hitting his opponent was out of character and he is really a good bloke.
Whatever those two luminaries know about AFL, I do not know, but obviously they have never heard of "white line fever".

Deservedly got 2 games suspension, but should have got more
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« 2017-Jun-27, 08:29 PM Reply #18 »
Bachar Houli, to my knowledge, the only Muslim AFL footballer has unbelievably gone to the limit to get off a one-match ban for striking another player

Considering the first line has two errors, I see no point perusing any further into the content of that post above.

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« 2017-Jun-27, 09:42 PM Reply #19 »
To my knowledge he is the only Muslim AFL footballer..how can anyone profess to my knowledge, whether it be correct or not ?

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« 2017-Jun-27, 11:14 PM Reply #20 »
Well the fact you thought it was all about a 1 match ban is bad enough on its own.

As to a lack of knowledge in an era of 2 second google searches, then that is just pure laziness, and lets be frank it suited the tone of your post to imply the lone Muslim card in this instance.

I'm sure the he got off light because he's a muslim will be a popular cry over the next few days.

I mean the 11 year career with 1 $900 fine for wrestling means nothing. Nah that would have nothing at all to do with the outcome. 

At least the Carlton lad cannot be called a diver.
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« 2017-Jun-28, 10:20 AM Reply #21 »
COLLINGWOOD president Eddie McGuire has raised concerns over the precedent set by the AFL Tribunal on Tuesday night in allowing character references to influence Bachar Houliís ban.
Houli copped two weeks for striking Carltonís Jed Lamb after the tribunal weighed up his record and standing in the community following references from Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull and Gold Logie winner Waleed Aly.
ďThis is ridiculous by the tribunal to take this into account,Ē he said. ďI donít mind that this was an underlining that Bachar Houli is a really good character.
The only thing that comes to me in this is Ďwhat is his record as a player?í and itís unblemished so therefore I believe he should get a discount. Whether thatís six (weeks down) to four or five (down) to three or as itís turned out maybe four to two.
ďMy point is this ó it should not be taken into account what happens in daily life. It underlines again that he is a good character but that should not have been brought into the determination of his penalty.
 ďNow that we are starting to look at what people do in their private lives in giving a suspension for what happens on the ground is totally ridiculous and out of control.
ďThis is a precedent.
ďYou can be Mother Teresa but if you knock somebody out on the ground you get four weeks. Simple as that.Ē
The AFL has until noon today to decide whether it will challenge the suspension, with former tribunal member Daniel Hardford declaring there is ďno doubtĒ it will challenge.

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« 2017-Jun-28, 10:34 AM Reply #22 »
Eddie is 100% correct.

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« 2017-Jun-28, 11:59 AM Reply #23 »
The problem is the MRP have to tick boxes and follow set penalties whereas the tribunal don't and can give any penalty they want. Always leads to inconsistency and bewilderment.

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« 2017-Jun-28, 01:39 PM Reply #24 »
The AFL have appealed the tribunal's decision as "manifestly inadequate".


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