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Offline tontonan

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« 2018-Dec-31, 06:33 PM Reply #10525 »
Come on Tonto, your a smart fellow, didn't think you'd resort to the old twisted figures? Maybe a better way to look at those would be % of capacity?

Currently the SCG holds 48,000 & the MCG 100,000

So from your figures the SCG reached 75.97% capacity for the 5 days whilst this last week saw the sporting capital of the world post 35.23% - would you consider that still 'not much in it'    :lol:  

What's the old saying? Lies, lies & damn statistics  :whistle:

Personally I think it says plenty about the state of Australian Cricket  :wavecry:


Damned if I know how you doubt that Melbourne loves its sport when -

(a) its disappointing attendances are approaching the sum of the total attendance of both the Adelaide and Perth test matches
(b) the city requires a stadium 2.5 times bigger that Sydney to cater for what you called its 'mythic' sporting crowds, and
(c) that even though you claim it has 'deserted'  the cricket team the attendance was just shy of Sydney's all time record crowd for a Test match.

On to Sydney now where a Test match used to support a charity but now the charity props up the Test match.   :lol:

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« 2018-Dec-31, 07:16 PM Reply #10526 »
Justin Langer has just announced the  line up for Sydney Test;

Shaun Marsh
Mitchell Marsh
Geoff Marsh
Mrs Marsh   (fresh from the Colgate advert)
Graham Marsh
PJ Marsh
Rod Marsh
Melissa Marsh
Dan Marsh
Paul Marsh
Nathan Hindmarsh

In other news,  Cricket Australia have announced that after many years of not having a Sporting Team nickname   (a la  Kangaroos. Wallabies Kookaburras ), the Australian Test Cricket team will now be known as …..
..
The Marshmallows

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« 2018-Dec-31, 09:27 PM Reply #10527 »
With a lineup like that, victory is certain. I do question the inclusion of Hindmarsh. Maybe he could pop in a hyphen.

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« 2018-Dec-31, 09:52 PM Reply #10528 »
As a Sydneysider, I have to admit Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia.

On average, their attendance beats Sydney. Their AFL crowds beats NRL on average as does their cricket. We can’t even get capacity outside the GF and SOO. Melbourne rarely has full capacity too but their stadiums are bigger and some of their regular season games beats the GF and SOO crowds too.

The cricket grounds should be measured as total crowd and not a % of capacity. If we use the latter, Allianz should never be knocked as they can’t even get 50% for most games played there while ANZ will struggle to get 25% capacity.

I could be wrong but Sydney’s biggest issue is the transport factor. MCG, Tennis and Olympic Park are within walking distance from the station while in Sydney we have to change trains except for the major days to Homebush while SCG is crap at times for walking or bus rides.

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« 2019-Jan-01, 07:10 AM Reply #10529 »
Justin Langer has just announced the  line up for Sydney Test;

Shaun Marsh
Mitchell Marsh
Geoff Marsh
Mrs Marsh   (fresh from the Colgate advert)
Graham Marsh
PJ Marsh
Rod Marsh
Melissa Marsh
Dan Marsh
Paul Marsh
Nathan Hindmarsh

In other news,  Cricket Australia have announced that after many years of not having a Sporting Team nickname   (a la  Kangaroos. Wallabies Kookaburras ), the Australian Test Cricket team will now be known as …..
..
The Marshmallows

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DF3_eTLfqXk

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« 2019-Jan-01, 12:41 PM Reply #10530 »
As a Sydneysider, I have to admit Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia.

On average, their attendance beats Sydney. Their AFL crowds beats NRL on average as does their cricket. We can’t even get capacity outside the GF and SOO. Melbourne rarely has full capacity too but their stadiums are bigger and some of their regular season games beats the GF and SOO crowds too.

The cricket grounds should be measured as total crowd and not a % of capacity. If we use the latter, Allianz should never be knocked as they can’t even get 50% for most games played there while ANZ will struggle to get 25% capacity.

I could be wrong but Sydney’s biggest issue is the transport factor. MCG, Tennis and Olympic Park are within walking distance from the station while in Sydney we have to change trains except for the major days to Homebush while SCG is crap at times for walking or bus rides.

There’s nothing to do in Melbourne so when a sporting event is on its natural they would get a decent turnout.

How either of the Marshs continue to play tests is beyond me. Until we get rid of them we will struggle to score 300 runs in any innings.

Paine and Cummings have shown if you value your wicket you can score runs.

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« 2019-Jan-01, 03:52 PM Reply #10531 »
Winner, you must get down to Melbourne to take  in the culture .What ,even if you are not interested in  the sporting events , you could take in the National Gallery with all its iconic artwork, explore the lanes in the CBD, enjoy the cafe culture where all those  inner suburban lefties come up with  their crazy ideas, however I should warn you to stay clear of St Kilda where unfortunately you could run into  gangs of youths , who might fancy your wallet and your mobile phone.
Despite those minor concerns you could drive down to those sand hills, just out of Melbourne, and observe the native wild life or even visit the Healesville Sanctuary where you could cuddle up to a koala or pat a kangaroo.
Whoever told you nothing happens in Melbourne ?
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« 2019-Jan-01, 04:59 PM Reply #10532 »
Hang on Gintara, Tonto was quoting the attendance of 176,179  at the just completed MCG test at the venue, and was comparing that recent attendance to the RECORD attendance of 182,349  at the SCG

Back in 1936/37 the record attendance at a MCG test was 350,354 , although that test was over 6 days .....the ground capacity was nothing like 100,000 more like 75,000.

350,354/ 450,000 = 77.7% capacity.


What's the old saying? lies. lies & damn statistics :whistle:

If the SCG Trust thought they would get more to attend why have they not increased the ground capacity ?

Why am I not surprised you missed the point?   :lol:  I'm not the one twisting figures, I merely pointed out what Tonto used and a fairer picture of of that.

You now want to introduce other factors  :wacko:

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« 2019-Jan-01, 05:14 PM Reply #10533 »
Come on Tonto, your a smart fellow, didn't think you'd resort to the old twisted figures? Maybe a better way to look at those would be % of capacity?

Currently the SCG holds 48,000 & the MCG 100,000

So from your figures the SCG reached 75.97% capacity for the 5 days whilst this last week saw the sporting capital of the world post 35.23% - would you consider that still 'not much in it'   :lol:

What's the old saying? Lies, lies & damn statistics  :whistle:

Personally I think it says plenty about the state of Australian Cricket
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I thought you would have guessed it was all tongue in cheek Tonto? Personally I couldn't give a rats. That's said it's easy to get a rise out of you Victorian's. There's a few around here that are quick to throw mud at others (Sydney or anything NSW) but get a touch salty when the failings of their own state get pointed out  :icecream:

It will be interesting to see what pitch we get served up at the SCG.

Like I said, I honestly couldn't care less how many turn up to what. It does show how precious & easy to get a rise out of you Victorian's it is though   :lol:

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« 2019-Jan-01, 05:18 PM Reply #10534 »
Winner, in addition to Bubba’s points about Melbourne, it has it’s fair share of musicals, nightlife (I am too old) and some of the best food going around.

I do like Sydney as a local but Melbourne does have it’s great attributes too. However we do have the icons the world recognises in the Harbour Bridge and Opera House etc.

Our public transport does leave a lot to be desired and and this does affect people choosing to go to watch a game or on tv. Until we can get direct trains to Homebush from the city or western suburbs, crowds will always be affected. You can’t even get a direct train from the next station in Strathfield which is a big hub.

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« 2019-Jan-01, 06:14 PM Reply #10535 »
There’s nothing to do in Melbourne so when a sporting event is on its natural they would get a decent turnout.

How either of the Marshs continue to play tests is beyond me. Until we get rid of them we will struggle to score 300 runs in any innings.

Paine and Cummings have shown if you value your wicket you can score runs.




Sheer genius this.


Travis Head is our leading run-scorer this series with 217 runs.


Guess who is second, Mohammad?  Sean Marsh with 194.   :yes:


So let's drop our second highest run scorer.


Glad you're not a selector, moron.


Even the other morons have stopped criticizing Marsh.


Meanwhile Khawaja has scored 167 runs this series with one inning of 72.


He played and missed in that innings too many times to count and skied a couple that landed safe. 


Take out the 72 and his figures don't look too flash.   Leave it in and they still don't. 


No talk of him being dropped?   :nowink:    He's from NSW.


Pat Cummins has shown no such staying power with a total of 138 runs this series.


He stuck around once. 


This is what I talk about when I speak of Eastern states bias. 


The figures don't back the bullshit. 


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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2019-Jan-01, 08:45 PM Reply #10536 »

The figures don't back the bullshit.

You’re right with that. Old man Shaunie has an average that’s less than his age  :lol:

You can throw all the bullshit you like but an average of 35 doesn’t cut it.
Marsh is a dunce :tin: and so are you and your pathetic state bias. You really do have insecurity issues  :lol:
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« 2019-Jan-01, 09:11 PM Reply #10537 »
Are you saying, stupid, that he isn't our second highest run scorer in this series.  Even you couldn't be that dumb, could you?

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Offline Jeunes

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« 2019-Jan-01, 10:03 PM Reply #10538 »
Guys, you should have a bet on it.

Khawaja is 4.5 and Shaun is $5 to be top scorer for Aust 1st innings. Mitchell is $13 and is 8th in the line behind Head, Laubaschagne, Finch and Harris. It must be all in betting.


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« 2019-Jan-02, 12:00 AM Reply #10539 »


Like I said, I honestly couldn't care less how many turn up to what. It does show how precious & easy to get a rise out of you Victorian's it is though    :lol:


In other words you are full of shit, making pointless statements that you can't support with facts or reason just to aggravate other forum members.  I think that makes you a troll doesn't it ?

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« 2019-Jan-02, 04:09 AM Reply #10540 »
Guys, you should have a bet on it.

Khawaja is 4.5 and Shaun is $5 to be top scorer for Aust 1st innings. Mitchell is $13 and is 8th in the line behind Head, Laubaschagne, Finch and Harris. It must be all in betting.


It isn't about betting.  It's about facts. 


Idiots who began this series calling for the axing of Sean Marsh look pretty stupid when he's the series' second highest run scorer. 


Meanwhile their pin-up boy has had one decent innings (albeit lucky) and doesn't cop any criticism at all. 


His run tally is behind Head, Marsh, Harris and Paine yet he gets off scot free.  Why? 


When you mention his lean run, dikheads like the Cockroach bring up Islam.


This is the level of debate. 


It's called bullshit and I call bullshit when I see it. 


Marsh made the side based on his Sheffield Shield form.  Fact.


He's our second best batsman on numbers this series so far.  Fact. 


But he still cops it because he's not from NSW or Vic.  Fact.


It's pathetic.








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« 2019-Jan-02, 07:16 AM Reply #10541 »
Booo faking hooo.

Marsh cops it cuz he’s past his use by date. His series average is 29 :tin:

He’s first in the pecking order to go due to his AGE and constant failure at test level
There is no doubt that if Khawaja  keeps failing after the crusty old bastard is dropped. He too is under pressure

Get over yourself and you pathetic state bias

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« 2019-Jan-02, 08:34 AM Reply #10542 »
As a Sydneysider, I have to admit Melbourne is the sporting capital of Australia.

On average, their attendance beats Sydney. Their AFL crowds beats NRL on average as does their cricket. We can’t even get capacity outside the GF and SOO. Melbourne rarely has full capacity too but their stadiums are bigger and some of their regular season games beats the GF and SOO crowds too.

The cricket grounds should be measured as total crowd and not a % of capacity. If we use the latter, Allianz should never be knocked as they can’t even get 50% for most games played there while ANZ will struggle to get 25% capacity.

I could be wrong but Sydney’s biggest issue is the transport factor. MCG, Tennis and Olympic Park are within walking distance from the station while in Sydney we have to change trains except for the major days to Homebush while SCG is crap at times for walking or bus rides.


Sydney stuck in time warp

SYDNEY was one of the first world capitals to ring in 2019 but when “Happy New Year 2018” was projected onto the Harbour Bridge revellers were left feeling behind the times.

About one million people crowded the harbour to watch the fireworks and light show.

“We just laughed about it … these things happen,” council’s major event executive producer Anna McInerney said.

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« 2019-Jan-02, 09:43 AM Reply #10543 »
This happened to our friends too but they left quite early so they only missed out on the sight seeing but not the cruise.

https://www.news.com.au/finance/money/costs/nye-group-furious-after-sydney-train-delays-cost-them-5000/news-story/21b80a2bd81c394a48c3bf3208800d83

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« 2019-Jan-02, 10:56 AM Reply #10544 »
Lets compare S Marsh and Khawaja over the last six series they both played going back to South Africa touring here two years ago.

SM 78, 151,  445,  147, 14,  175
UK 314. 267,  333, 165, 229,167

Given UK has opened and batted 3 and the other bloke has hidden down the order, its fairly clear who has been a a better player.

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« 2019-Jan-02, 01:26 PM Reply #10545 »
Lets compare S Marsh and Khawaja over the last six series they both played going back to South Africa touring here two years ago.

SM 78, 151,  445,  147, 14,  175
UK 314. 267,  333, 165, 229,167

Given UK has opened and batted 3 and the other bloke has hidden down the order, its fairly clear who has been a a better player.


and before the sycopant from the west comes back. here's another fact for him.
Shaunie averages a pathetic 25 when he bats at #3 & 26 when at #4  :lol:

Usman averages 113 when he opens. That may be a clue to tomorrows team

Finch drops to 5 . Khawaja to open.
Both the failures from the west punted and Handscomb rightfully back in with Labuschagne as the allrounder


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« 2019-Jan-02, 02:19 PM Reply #10546 »
Lets compare S Marsh and Khawaja over the last six series they both played going back to South Africa touring here two years ago.

SM 78, 151,  445,  147, 14,  175
UK 314. 267,  333, 165, 229,167

Given UK has opened and batted 3 and the other bloke has hidden down the order, its fairly clear who has been a a better player.


Don't know where you got your figures from.  The last one is wrong.  Marsh has made 194 this series. 


So if we look at the last FOUR series we have:


1.  Marsh convincingly.
2.  Khawaja - just.
3.  Khawaja easily with Marsh having a bad series.
4.  Marsh. 


Not exactly grounds for dropping Marsh I would have thought. 


Both will play in the Sydney Test. 

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« 2019-Jan-02, 06:17 PM Reply #10547 »
I was a Justin Langer fan till I read an article in the Australian today.
It appears he's clueless

Sadly, I cant post it here maybe someone can.
It was titled "Matthew Wade and Joe Burns 'not the blokes selectors want'" Does lager even know them? :mad:

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« 2019-Jan-02, 06:18 PM Reply #10548 »
Rumour is Mitchell M and Finch are out.

Going to be an interesting test as I doubt they will be back for next series v Sri Lanka if they win.

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« 2019-Jan-03, 10:30 AM Reply #10549 »
Selectors got it half right. Hopefully that’s the last we see of MItch for 3 or 4 years in the test arena.
He has a lot of work to do on his game. Technically and mentally

Seems strange that Labuschagne will be batting at #3.  :chin:


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