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Online Bubbasmith

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O.P. « 2019-Jul-16, 03:59 PM »
What is it with football codes on the Gold Coast ? Watching NRL "Controversy  Corner "& AFL "On the Couch" last night each panel was troubled by the lack of success by the Titans ( NRL ) and the Suns ( AFL ) . The NRL panel even went to suggesting the Titans could be relocated to Brisbane, whilst the AFL panel suggested the Suns should receive preferential draft picks and an increase in their salary cap to make them competitive.
Compared to other new teams introduced to the NRL ( Melbourne Storm )  and the AFL  ( West Coast, Fremantle ) teams on the Gold Coast have, frankly, proved hopeless in both national competitions.The Titans are the second top-level rugby league club to have been based on the Gold Coast, the first being the ill-fated Gold Coast-Tweed Giants / Gold Coast Seagulls / Gold Coast Chargers, which existed from 1988 to 1998. Why ?
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« 2019-Jul-16, 04:39 PM Reply #1 »
I don't know.

But will listen to theories.

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« 2019-Jul-16, 07:29 PM Reply #2 »
I reckon the administrators  of both the NRL & the AFL do not know either.Could it be a lot of the population, who are potential attendees at games on the Gold Coast, are retirees or a tourists who care little about football and prefer to sit on the beach and footballers cannot get involved in their games because there is little community support by the general  population ?

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« 2019-Jul-16, 09:12 PM Reply #3 »
It is the culture of both teams which are contributing to their on field performances.

The Strip has been a holiday town for ages and itís usual vices. The players are being over the market value to entice them sometimes without family or support around them at times.

My question is do both clubs have strong leadership on and off the field. They both need a strong premiership winning coach who has built teams.

Suns should be looking at a coach of Clarkson or Longmire calibre. Strong and prepared to build for a couple of years but yet inspire rookies.

Titans need a McGuire or Bellamy or Robinson or even a Hasler type of coach who are strong enough to command respect on and off the field.

There should be no rookies or middle range coaches. Instead of paying overs for players, they need to pay for a very good coach and slowly build around a spine.

The Titans have Arrow, Wallace, Peats, Brimson etc who are good players. If they can get a few more to contribute or come good, they have the makings of a good side.

AFL have to concede more draft and salary cap concessions to the Suns for them to be competitive.

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« 2019-Dec-27, 08:54 PM Reply #4 »
Jai Arrow to goto Souths in 2021 but could leave early. Latrell has turned his back on the Titans but may come back to them if no Sydney clubs wants him.

To add to the Titans saga, there are conflicting reports on Ash Taylor and when he will return to first grade. There is an expectation that Peachey and Taylor will play halves unless Tyrone Roberts gets first call.

On bright side for the Titans, there will be a few players playing for contracts in NRL so they could benefit from that.

However their draw for first 6 rounds is horrendous. Raiders (a), Eels (h), Broncos (h), Roosters (a), Storm (a) and Manly(a). It does get better afterwards with their next 6 games against lesser lights. Tigers(h), Panthers(h), Cowboys (a), Warriors (h), Dragons (a) and Dogs (h).

If they can survive the first 6 rounds with a couple of wins, they could go ok. But if they lose all 6, the crowd figures will be interesting to say the least for rest of the season.

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« 2019-Dec-28, 03:39 PM Reply #5 »
They are in that horrible situation where you can't attract players and have to pay overs to get them or the ones who do come are generally from the land of misfits & broken toys.

Not to mention anything good you have wants to leave  :dry:

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« 2019-Dec-29, 11:20 AM Reply #6 »
They are in that horrible situation where you can't attract players and have to pay overs to get them or the ones who do come are generally from the land of misfits & broken toys.

Not to mention anything good you have wants to leave  :dry:

Unfortunately Gin, I did think with a new coach etc they would improve this year. Only catch is the draw, a few early wins and you start to get confident and want to turn up every week. A few losses and you start to look at excuses. The draw is the worst I have seen for a long time for a bottom side.

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« 2019-Dec-29, 02:01 PM Reply #7 »
Jai Arrow to goto Souths in 2021 but could leave early. Latrell has turned his back on the Titans but may come back to them if no Sydney clubs wants him.


Pretty sure Mitchell will end up at Souths if they can get rid of Alex Johnstone or Dane Gagai.

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« 2019-Dec-29, 06:28 PM Reply #8 »
Why would we get rid of them.
They are contracted

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« 2019-Dec-29, 07:38 PM Reply #9 »
Why would we get rid of them.
They are contracted

Rabbitohs veteran Dane Gagai has been linked with the Tigers, while Alex Johnston has also been shopped to rival clubs.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/jai-arrow-wests-tigers-made-late-bid-for-gold-coast-star-after-latrell-mitchell-rejection-report/

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« 2019-Dec-29, 09:06 PM Reply #10 »
Rabbitohs veteran Dane Gagai has been linked with the Tigers, while Alex Johnston has also been shopped to rival clubs.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/jai-arrow-wests-tigers-made-late-bid-for-gold-coast-star-after-latrell-mitchell-rejection-report/

Link did not work but donít believe all you read yet and I mean yet. There are many deals being done but no one can publicise it as it is like a deck of cards.

It seems like player A has to goto Club B so Club A can sign player from club C so player B can sign with club D and so on. It is a virtual draft with player agents ruling the roost. It is a joke in regards to contracts.

My son got an offical Penrith calendar for Christmas from a relative but has two players who are already committed to other clubs in 2020 including Regan Campbell Gillard who is playing for Parramatta.


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« 2019-Dec-29, 09:42 PM Reply #12 »
That link worked, PP.

There are a lot of things not making sense with the figures. They said Roosters are paying Latrell $65k a month but that canít be right as Roosters were only paying around $600k this year before initially offering him $800k per tear in the contract extension.

Alex Johnston and Dane Gagai both are reportedly on better than the average winger / centre deals at Souths so unless  Souths can unload them without paying a dollar towards their salary at other clubs, it is hard to see how they afford Mitchell unless they goto the Rooster style of salary cap management.

The other question is Souths already have Cooke, Arrow, Walker, Roberts and Murray. The mail is all these players will be around $3m per year minimum in total without even taking into account Reynolds. So with Mitchell and Reynolds, you are looking at $4-$4.5million min.

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« 2019-Dec-30, 07:02 AM Reply #13 »
Rabbitohs veteran Dane Gagai has been linked with the Tigers, while Alex Johnston has also been shopped to rival clubs.

https://www.sportingnews.com/au/league/news/jai-arrow-wests-tigers-made-late-bid-for-gold-coast-star-after-latrell-mitchell-rejection-report/


Iíve read all the articles previously but donít believe a word of it.
Thereís no doubt that Gagai is being paid too much but that is the only reason weíd get rid of him

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« 2019-Dec-30, 09:07 AM Reply #14 »

Iíve read all the articles previously but donít believe a word of it.
Thereís no doubt that Gagai is being paid too much but that is the only reason weíd get rid of him

That is the crux of the matter. Gagai was pushed to wing as he is on the outer with Roberts coming in. There are a couple more too. Bennett wants to win premierships and not just make the finals so I donít blame him.

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« 2020-Jan-06, 04:33 PM Reply #15 »
Arrow wonít be released for the 2020 season by the Titans and kudos to them if they hold firm as there was a lot of pressure to release him.

Latrell looks like he might be a Souths boy now unless there is a massive backflip by the Bunnies or the Titans.

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« 2020-Jan-06, 06:58 PM Reply #16 »
Respect to the Titans  :clap2:

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« 2020-Jan-14, 07:28 AM Reply #17 »
The titans have really dug in on Arrow. Rumour was a player got offered as part of the deal and the titans knocked it back.

Holbrook needs a good start.

In AFL news, Suns are safe for awhile due to the money invested in them. The new tv deal will still need 18 clubs so unless the Suns gets relocated to Tas (remote chance), they will be around until the end of the next tv deal at least.


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