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Offline chalky

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« 2014-Oct-07, 08:25 PM Reply #1775 »
After the South Sydney 'extravaganza' I thought the Dogs making them wait only added to the theatre of the occasion.

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« 2014-Oct-07, 08:31 PM Reply #1776 »
Easily fixed, dock them points for being late onto the field. If you are late for your tee time in golf, you get penalised or even disqualified. It's pretty rare that blokes aren't ready to tee off on time.

A very reasonable answer...and if I was in  a position of power....I would tell Hasler .....that will never happen again...
the NRL is the game manager...not you....

Gee...NRL...get a lot off things wrong....this should not of happened.....

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« 2014-Oct-07, 08:38 PM Reply #1777 »


Gee...NRL...get a lot off things wrong....this should not of happened.....

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NRL did everything they could mate. They approached both teams and the Dogs even put it in writing that they would do the right thing. Des doesn't give a shite and spat on the game for his own good.

As it turned out it was the best thing as the bunnies wanted to be there soaking up the atmosphere. it was like the dogs were to scared to come out  :lol:

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« 2014-Oct-07, 11:05 PM Reply #1778 »
Keary or Hodgkinson or both hookers. 

Well, Keary set up the fisrt Souths try, dummying to the open then ducking back to the blind to create an overlap.  Similar to one of the tries we scored last week (Keary was instrumental in that as well).  Keary also went to hooker while Korasou (spelling?) was off the field.  I though Korasou was really good, to some extent I am disappointed he is going to Penrith next year, I would rather Isaac Luke went instead. Hodgkinson went into the game with a well publicised injury, I think he did well under the circumstances.

I agree with you if you are saying it wasn't a classic game, it wasn't, but I dont care  :no1:

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« 2014-Oct-07, 11:30 PM Reply #1779 »
Hmmm,

Kick off time is known to both sides.

Let Souths take the kick off and regather and score under the posts and convert the tri for a 6 nil lead.

Then fine Hasler 50g as well.

Fours

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« 2014-Oct-08, 12:00 AM Reply #1780 »
Hmmm,

Kick off time is known to both sides.

Let Souths take the kick off and regather and score under the posts and convert the tri for a 6 nil lead.

Then fine Hasler 50g as well.

Fours

My sister had visions of 1909 - win by default!

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« 2014-Oct-08, 08:41 AM Reply #1781 »
My sister had visions of 1909 - win by default!

Wasn't by default, deceit would be a more apt description.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 10:08 AM Reply #1782 »
Balmain didn't turn up.

Fabricated a story to explain their absense. emthdown 

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« 2014-Oct-08, 10:42 AM Reply #1783 »
Wasn't it first past the post in those days? Grand final was optional? My memories of 1909 are somewhat vague.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 10:51 AM Reply #1784 »
Wasn't it first past the post in those days? Grand final was optional? My memories of 1909 are somewhat vague.
No mate; top four played semis. Balmain and Souths won their semis and were to play the GF the following week.
The NSW Rugby League decided to stage a match between the Australian Rugby League team and the Australian Rugby Union team on the same day.
Souths and Balmain felt that this would upstage the Grand Final and protested against the idea.
NSWRL would not budge and Souths and Balmain got together and decided to boycott the GF in protest.
Souths ratted on the deal and double-crossed Balmain.
Without telling Balmain they showed up on the day.
Balmain stayed away in the belief that Souths would also.
NSWRL declared Souths the winner by forfeit; the Pride of the League.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 11:03 AM Reply #1785 »
That's the story spun by Balmain.


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« 2014-Oct-08, 11:11 AM Reply #1786 »
and hence my displeasure at seeing them parade the '21' premierships shirts after the game on Sunday.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 11:17 AM Reply #1787 »
The Balmainiacs of 1909

Sean Fagan of RL1908.com

It was the most dramatic action ever taken by a rugby league club – the 1909 Balmain team forfeited the premiership Final. Arguments have raged as to what led to Balmain’s actions, and the day’s events have caused the ‘Tigers’ and the South Sydney Rabbitohs to generally harbour nothing but ill-will towards each other ever-since.

The seeds of the dramatic events of 1909 lay in the years before rugby league was formed, back when Balmain and Souths were rugby union clubs. In 1900 the Metropolitan Rugby Union (MRU) replaced the private clubs of the 1800s with district clubs. This was done to more evenly distribute the talent between clubs, and to build upon the growing support for suburban based clubs.

While Balmain had use of ‘the best ground in the colony’ in Birchgrove Park [Oval], the MRU inexplicably ignored its ‘home-and-away’ scheduling for club matches, and refused to allocate South Sydney matches anywhere but at the SCG or Sports Ground.

Between 1900 and 1906, Souths and Balmain had met 14 times, yet the ‘red-and-greens’ had only twice been required to play at Birchgrove.

While most clubs trained indoors at night or on fields under moonlight, Souths and Easts had exclusive use of the lights of the Sports Ground. Understandably, other clubs, particularly Balmain and Norths felt that Souths and Easts were receiving favourable treatment.

The newspapers and opposing fans had come to call the Balmain club “the Balmainiacs”. Unafraid to vent their feelings, especially at home games, Balmain were not the most popular club amongst Sydney ‘rugbyites’.

When the opportunity came to join the newly formed rugby league in the early months of 1908, most rugby union clubs lost approximately half of their players and members. In Balmain’s case, the League got just about everybody.

When the Balmain Union club held its first meeting of 1908, all the district’s League supporters attended and voted against the election of every official for the coming season.

While they really had no cause to even be at the Union club’s meeting, the presence of the League supporters prevented the Union club from being formed for the coming season. The MRU organised the follow-up meeting for the same night as the next Balmain League meeting, just so it could carry on its business.

By the start of the 1909 season, the NSWRL was in a dire financial crisis – its founding fathers, James Giltinan, Victor Trumper and ‘Harry’ Hoyle, all lost their positions.

Under the stewardship of North Sydney’s Alexander Knox, the NSWRL convinced the clubs to forgo their gate receipts from matches, and hand it all over to the League.

It quickly became apparent to Knox that the only club attracting reasonable crowds was Balmain at Birchgrove Park. Consequently, Balmain were given a home game in almost every round. As a result, they enjoyed great on-field success and climbed the premiership ladder. Balmain reached the Final against South Sydney.

However, as Souths had won the minor premiership by two points, the NSWRL play-offs system meant that Balmain had to beat them in the Final, and then beat them again in a second Final to claim the title. It seemed unlikely.

Balmain lobbied the NSWRL to schedule the Final at Wentworth Park, which was half-way between the two districts. The League refused, and put the match on at the Agricultural Ground – Souths home field.

Balmain’s complaints were quickly overtaken by outside events when more than half of the 1908 Wallabies team suddenly defected to rugby league for a series of matches against the Kangaroos. The Final was postponed indefinitely.

Knox publicly criticised the NSWRL officials who were involved in ‘bringing-down’ the NSWRU via paying huge sums to the Wallabies. Other officials didn’t see a problem with the League’s actions, and Knox soon lost his position on the NSWRL.

Funded by entrepreneur James Joynton-Smith, the three ‘Wallabies v Kangaroos’ matches did not earn enough gate-money to fully cover his costs or those of the NSWRL. So a fourth game was arranged. To increase interest and gate-takings, the NSWRL scheduled the Final on the under-card.

Balmain were seemingly aggrieved at the demotion of importance of the Final, and asked the NSWRL to ensure it was played on a separate day. They also argued that their players’ labour should not go towards paying money owed to Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. The League refused and Balmain announced that they would not play.

On the day of the Final the Balmain players arrived outside the ground in the early afternoon, well before the scheduled kick-off time of 2 o’clock. They then picketed the entrance, endeavouring to convince patrons not to enter.

Despite very heavy rain and the protests of the Balmain footballers, enough of a crowd turned up to clear the debts of Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. Balmain stuck to their word and did not appear on the field. Souths kicked-off, picked up the ball and scored a try. The referee awarded them the match, and with it the 1909 premiership.

In the days that followed a public meeting was held at Balmain to decide what to do about challenging Souths being credited as premiers. It then became apparent what Balmain had been trying to achieve. The first speaker at the meeting was North Sydney’s Alexander Knox. He had convinced Balmain to forfeit the Final in the hope that the NSWRL would not earn enough money to pay off its debts or be able to reimburse Joynton-Smith.

With the NSWRL bankrupted, Balmain and Norths officials would lead the formation of a new rugby league body – one in which they, and not South Sydney and Easts, would be the dominant office-holders. With little hope of winning the premiership, Balmain felt they had more to gain by causing the NSWRL to collapse.

Further meetings were held, attempting to instigate legal proceedings and investigate forming a new League, but they eventually stalled.

In the opening round of the 1910 competition, the NSWRL scheduled a ‘re-match’ between Souths and Balmain at Birchgrove Park to appease the local supporters.

‘The Balmainiacs’ responded by establishing a record crowd for a NSWRL club match of over 5,000. The home team though were beaten 13-5 in a very tough and physical encounter.

The Referee thought it necessary to praise the Birchgrove crowd for their behaviour, offering, “Naturally they like to see their favourites win, and what district does not? In the present instance, however, their team had to play second fiddle, but as sports they took the defeat in good spirit, and liberally applauded the visitors.”

At the first NSWRL meeting of 1910, Norths’
Alexander Knox was banned from rugby league
for life.

Courtesy of Sean Fagan of RL1908.com


Interesting read and thanks to the blog site  emthup
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« 2014-Oct-08, 11:39 AM Reply #1788 »

Despite very heavy rain and the protests of the Balmain footballers, enough of a crowd turned up to clear the debts of Joynton-Smith and the NSWRL. Balmain stuck to their word and did not appear on the field. Souths kicked-off, picked up the ball and scored a try. The referee awarded them the match, and with it the 1909 premiership.


Courtesy of Sean Fagan of RL1908.com



The story also goes that the Souths player knocked the ball on when trying to regather but the referee blew a penalty for a strip. Somethings never change I suppose.....
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« 2014-Oct-08, 11:46 AM Reply #1789 »
The story also goes that the Souths player knocked the ball on when trying to regather but the referee blew a penalty for a strip. Somethings never change I suppose.....

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Just for the record monologue did NOT write the story
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Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2014-Oct-08, 12:16 PM Reply #1790 »
Balmain supporters prefer the one their predessors spread around about Souths agreeing to boycott the match blah blah blah.

   

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« 2014-Oct-08, 01:27 PM Reply #1791 »
Whats it matter? Balmain is dead and buried. Non existant. I care just as much as what the fans of Glebe think :chin:

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« 2014-Oct-08, 04:49 PM Reply #1792 »
and hence my displeasure at seeing them parade the '21' premierships shirts after the game on Sunday.

There you go Chalky...I wondered what you were getting at..... :slaphead:

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« 2014-Oct-08, 06:42 PM Reply #1793 »
  :lol:

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« 2014-Oct-08, 06:45 PM Reply #1794 »
Whats it matter? Balmain is dead and buried. Non existant. I care just as much as what the fans of Glebe think :chin:

Luckily the fans of other clubs did care when Souths were dead and buried and marched side by side.
Anyhow you never know Balmain might get there own sugar daddy to buy them a premiership  :x:

Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2014-Oct-08, 07:03 PM Reply #1795 »
and marched side by side.


Well, I marched and regularly perused the crowd for the "colours" of other clubs which were supporting us.

To their eternal credit Newcastle fans were there in some numbers and there was a smattering of Canterbury fans but the others were pretty much notable for their absence.

 

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« 2014-Oct-08, 07:40 PM Reply #1796 »
Well, I marched and regularly perused the crowd for the "colours" of other clubs which were supporting us.

To their eternal credit Newcastle fans were there in some numbers and there was a smattering of Canterbury fans but the others were pretty much notable for their absence.

 

Pretty certain there was a bloke in a Saints jersey next to Piggins, also know for a fact that some fans of other clubs were wearing cardinal & myrtle or Save Souths shirts.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 08:37 PM Reply #1797 »
Here's your chance to support us some more tomorrow chalky  :lol:


The South Sydney Rabbitohs will celebrate the Club’s 21st premiership with an open top bus parade through the South Sydney district and the City of Sydney on Thursday 9 October, starting at 12:30pm, culminating in a public civic reception to be held at Sydney Town Hall with the Provan-Summons Trophy.

The open top bus parade will leave from Souths Juniors in Kingsford at 12:30pm, travelling through Maroubra, Coogee, Randwick, Redfern and the city to Town Hall’s Sydney Square.

At Sydney Square the Rabbitohs will be presented with the keys to the city for achieving the Club’s 21st premiership as well as for the impact and inspiration they have provided to the Rabbitohs family with their efforts to become this year’s NRL champions.

Members and fans will be able to farewell their team from Souths Juniors on Anzac Parade at Kingsford at 12:30pm on Thursday, with the bus expected to reach Town Hall at approximately 1:30pm for the public civic reception.

The Rabbitohs are encouraging all Members and supporters to show their support for the team along the bus route as well as at Souths Juniors and Sydney Square to cap off a magnificent week of celebrations.

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« 2014-Oct-08, 08:48 PM Reply #1798 »
o my god when is it gunna stop   :sad:

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well done to the Rabbits

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« 2014-Oct-08, 09:29 PM Reply #1799 »
Keys to the city? When did Redfern become a city, surely that is a misprint, meant to say 'keys to the suburb' im sure.

This is starting to get a bit like when the poms won back the ashes in 2005, MBE's and Knighthoods all round I'd say!


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