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Online wily ole dog

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« 2018-Nov-02, 08:05 AM Reply #25 »
Shock horror. Fancy taking a tackle.  The yanks will wake up one day  :lol:

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« 2018-Nov-02, 06:57 PM Reply #26 »
I think the issue was taking the safety would have virtually guaranteed them the ability to run clock out but if he hadn't made the first down it opened the door to a touch down and possible drive to win the game.

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« 2019-Jan-30, 10:02 PM Reply #27 »
With the GOAT Brady feeding Sony Michel, James White and Julian Edleman I cannot see the Rams winning. Added to that is The Gronk i his new effective role of offensive blocker.

If the Rams are to be any chance Jared Goff is going to have to work some magic with Todd Gurley II - CJ Anderson has been great but they will need that little bit extra.

Gurley hardly touched the ball in the Championship game and not convinced he is over the knee injury he got late in the season.

In fact of the Pats get ahead early it might be a blow out like these GF games can get if the result is obvious well before FT.

$4.50 Pats 13+ looks attractive  :chin:

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« 2019-Feb-02, 05:31 PM Reply #28 »
Ladbrokes promo will let you have $20 on the Pats at $2.50 - they are $1.74 so a no brainer if you have a Ladbrokes account.


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« 2019-Feb-04, 04:57 PM Reply #30 »
People might not happy with game today but Super Bowl was great with the defence winning out.

Brady has won 6 Super Bowls and 3 other appearances too. He is also 41 years of age in what is one of the most physical games.

Like Jordon, Gretzky, Bradman, Phelps etc must be the GOAT of his sport.

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« 2019-Feb-04, 05:02 PM Reply #31 »
He is also 41 years of age in what is one of the most physical games.

Not for a QB these days. Uber protected species.

They literally can barely be touched and it's been like that for a few years now but got even worse this year with the new interpretations.

You'll see a lot more QB's play to very late 30's and early 40's going forward if they are top class.

Here is a roughing the passer penalty Brady got 2 weeks ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAQJwTMHl5s
« Last Edit: 2019-Feb-04, 05:07 PM by arakaan »

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« 2019-Feb-04, 06:10 PM Reply #32 »
The NFL changed the rules and calls a few years after all the concussion issues. You may be right with the new QBs coming through but some of the older QBs did play under old rules so longevity is still big. Helmet to helmet bans also helped big time too.

I put a link below supporting both theories as some are innocuous hits. It does not show hits after passing too.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ys2kBGJfZ5w


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« 2019-Feb-04, 06:13 PM Reply #33 »
The rules are much stricter as you rightly point out but the example given by arakaan was simply a terrible call by the officials.

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« 2019-Nov-15, 03:47 PM Reply #34 »
Should watch the last 8 seconds of the Browns-Steelers game today if you get a chance

Tommy Raudonikus would be proud............

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« 2019-Nov-15, 03:51 PM Reply #35 »
Already up on YouTube


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« 2020-Jan-08, 06:55 AM Reply #36 »
NFL always has great highlights over the years but this is still one of the funniest non plays ever. Poor Mark Sanchez, his career never recovered from the ďButt FumbleĒ.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=82RIfy-gRa4


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« 2020-Jan-13, 06:21 PM Reply #37 »
We are almost there for the Super Bowl with the NFC and AFC Championship next weekend.

In the AFC, I donít think many expected a Kansas v Tennessee Championship game but we got it. Mahomes is a superstar for the chiefs while Henry has broken a few records in the playoffs with his running game with the Titans. Kansas overcame a 24-0 deficit in the first quarter to win 51-31 while Tennessee knocked out the Patriots (Brady) and the strong super bowl favourites the Ravens in consecutive weeks playing away.

Kansas is hosting the Championship and you tend to favour them but they have choked so many times over the years including a record playoff losing streak at one stage with their last Super Bowl appearance almost 50 years ago.

The NFC championship seems to have more depth with the 49ers hosting the Packers. Only an ardent fan would have predicted this Championship final at the start of the season too even though both were favoured at different stages during the season. The 49ers were seconds away from being division runner ups in the last game of the regular season before they came good to win the division and take top seed for the playoffs. Packers had a shocker of a year last year but with a new coach this year have done really well.

Garoppolo was the understudy to Brady before leaving a couple of years when he did not retire. He had a injury ridden season last year and this is his first full injury free season for them. Rodgers for the Packers is the only quarterback with Super Bowl winning experience left in the playoffs.

This is one of the most open Championship weekends I have ever seen and I am really looking forward to it as all of these teams have not tasted Superbowl glory for awhile.

I would love a Kansas v 49ers Super Bowl as both have very promising quarterbacks but wonít begrudge Tennessee and / or Packers make it too.

NFL is football chess and great to watch.

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« 2020-Jan-20, 05:19 PM Reply #38 »
It will be a sea of red on Super Bowl day with Kansas and 49ers battling it out after comprehensive victories today.

Kansas again got off to a slow start and trailed by 10 before coming good again. Tennessee never gave up though.

49ers showed their class by dominating from the start. The final score flattered Green Bay too.

Both Kansas and 49ers are exciting to watch with gun quarterbacks. I am hoping for a tight and exciting game.
Kansas are chasing history while 49ers are trying to win back their glory days.

Great days ahead and being a sentimentalist I would like a Kansas win as they fell out of the limelight since the Wizard of Oz.
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« 2020-Jan-20, 06:36 PM Reply #39 »
If you had nave told me before the game that Garoppolo would complete only 6 passes I would have said
that the 49'ers must have been thrashed.

It was a different look from them and makes me think that they are capable of beating anyone on the ground and so keeping the dangerous Mahomes off the field, which Tennessee looked early like doing but fell short in the end.
 

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« 2020-Jan-20, 07:18 PM Reply #40 »
I agree with you to some degree Sobig. I think the coaching plan of both winners worked brilliantly today.

With Kansas, their slow starts will not help them but their overall plan did. They kept Henry to 69 yards who for me was the difference between Tennessee being knocked out by Patriots and the Ravens. The chiefs know how to lift their game but canít afford the slow starts as the 49ers defence are superior to most teams.

The 49ers confused the crap out of the Packers by running the ball. Watch Grappolo and his runners, The Packers like me expected his crisp passing game and 49ers defence stifled them too. Score line flattered the Packers too.

Grappolo  is a freak. I think he is better all round quarterback than Mahomes as he can adapt a lot. Grappolo is a brilliant team player and can execute game plans so well. Mahomes is more brilliant and unpredictable ie his touchdown run just before the end of the half. Mahomes too also showed his toughness with run as he could have just run out of bounds instead of trying to get a touchdown.

I am so excited and hope for a great game. Last year was a great defensive game and enjoyable for the tactics plus the great defence.

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« 2020-Jan-21, 05:14 AM Reply #41 »
KCís offense is so fast they are nearly unstoppable.

Couple that with Mahomes athleticism and accurate passing and Kelce at Tight End for the bail out pass the offense is nearly unstoppable.

Last two weeks they have dropped easy passes in the first drive or two, if they clean that up it might be a white wash.

I say KC by 16 points.

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« 2020-Jan-21, 06:34 AM Reply #42 »
I agree with you regarding Kansas. They are a very good team. I do hope they win.

My friend wants to goto the Super Bowl next year.The packages are not in sale yet but based on this year, it is expensive.

Also some travel companies sell it as an experience including the lead up etc. Some even come with discussions or talks with ex NFL players or balls being thrown to them etc. He is looking upto $5k for a few days with the extras thrown in.

I think it would be great to see a Super Bowl live.

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« 2020-Jan-22, 09:57 PM Reply #43 »
I thought with the injury to Kevin Coleman they used Raheem Mostert too much and he was starting to tire towards the end of the game. Allowed Green Bay back in.

Will be interesting to see what they do if Coleman can't play. Matt Breida isn't up to it.

George Kittle got just one completion and I don't think Emmanual Sanders or Debo Samuel got much more.

Kansas will be expecting a running game so if I were the 49'rs coach I'd do the opposite to what they expect. Keep Raheem Mostert fresh for the back end of the game.

49r's defence should not be underestimated. They stopped Dalvin Cook against the Vikings and did a reasonable job on Devante Adams.

But Chiefs will be strong at the end of the game.

FWIW I've taken a 49'rs/Chiefs HT/FT double at $6.

Seems to be the nature of the beast these playoffs.

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« 2020-Jan-22, 10:15 PM Reply #44 »
...I've been a 49'rs fan since the days of Joe Montana and Jerry Rice.

My best mate is a mad Green Bay and South Sydney Rabbitohs fan - haven't been game enough to call him up yet.

Been a fantastic season whoever wins.

Great to see so many Aussie punters in action, led by a local boy from our area, Michael Dickson of the Seahawks. Went to Kirrawee High in the Sutherland Shire. Aforementioned mate bumped into him at Miranda Fair a few months back - all on his own. He is relatively unknown in his own country but would be one of the highest paid Australian sports stars.

Val Holmes and Jarrod Hayne get all the publicity when trying to break into the NFL.

But I reckon players like Josh Pappali, Siosiua Taukeiaho and Jason Taumalolo would be more likely to make it in the NFL. Surprised some of our NRL forwards don't try their luck.

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« 2020-Jan-22, 10:42 PM Reply #45 »
 I honestly think if both teams donít get stage fright, it will be a great Super Bowl. That is the great unknown of the game now.

Unlike most years, you canít help liking both teams but heart says go for a team that has not been in the Bowl for over 50 years.

The Pro Bowl is on too next week. That is usually a points blitz.




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« 2020-Jan-25, 10:26 AM Reply #46 »
Tevin Coleman's shoulder is more talked about than Cooper Cronk's was in the 2019 GF.

Looks like he will play after all.

(I always thought his name was Kevin - it is Tevin. Geez they have some strange first names in the NFL, Tevin, Dalvin, D'Brickashaw, Jacquizz, Barkevious - who on earth would call their kid Barkevious!!).

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« 2020-Feb-03, 07:34 PM Reply #47 »
Good solid Super Bowl. Great effort from both teams.

The only negative I had was when 49ers carried on after their 2nd intercept of Mahomes. Posing for photos with the game still on the line implied they thought they had the game won. I think it spurred the Chiefs on.

What can you say about the Chiefs. I tipped them based on sentiment only. First win in 50 years. They have trailed by  10pts or more in each game of the finals series and never gave up. Credit to them.

Mahomes is a freak and well deserved MVP. He looked very shaky in the middle especially with the intercepts. He never gave up. There are many one Super Bowl winning QBs who have never won another or gone close but I think he can go on with it. Big call as he is young but he has the ability and temperament. The only drawback is that teams will figure him out as he is not that big compared to Jackson, Grappolo etc so there could be cheap shots in next few years.

The highlights below.

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000001100775/49ers-vs-Chiefs-highlights-Super-Bowl-LIV



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« 2020-Feb-03, 08:09 PM Reply #48 »
I didnít think Mahomes deserved MVP. If they lost he would have been panned for a poor game.

Damien Williams was a standout and kept them in the game with some special plays

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« 2020-Feb-03, 08:23 PM Reply #49 »
I didnít think Mahomes deserved MVP. If they lost he would have been panned for a poor game.

Damien Williams was a standout and kept them in the game with some special plays

But they didnít lose and Mahomes key plays at the end was the difference. If they had lost, then his intercepts would have been talked about. Even with his intercepts, he was unlucky especially his second.

I also admire his resilience. He  reminded me of Brady (big call) when he was down 28-3 v Atlanta deep in the 3rd quarter a few years ago. Mahomes has two intercepts and trailing by 10 coming into the last 10 mins. He also did not get much offensive defence at times too. He ran well too.

Williams looked good but Mahomes was the spark.


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