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Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2020-Apr-07, 07:16 AM Reply #50 »
NRL 2020: Unbeaten clubs could be stripped of points in two-conference competition

With the NRL leaning towards a truncated two-conference competition, one key decision could divide the 16 clubs in more ways than one with the Roosters set to be one of the main beneficiaries.

Phil Rothfield, The Daily Telegraph

NRL teams could be stripped of the competition points they won in the opening two rounds of the season under a highly controversial proposal to restart the premiership with two conferences.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal a deduction of points is a serious option being considered by NRL powerbrokers that will outrage fans of undefeated teams Parramatta, Newcastle, Canberra, Brisbane, Melbourne and Penrith.

And in another shock, the St George Illawarra Dragons could be left out of the Sydney clubs’ conference and be forced to join the out-of-town clubs in a Queensland-based ‘northern’ conference.

League legend Wayne Pearce, who heads up Project Apollo that is analysing various structures and schedules for the rest of the season, admits clubs could lose their points from the opening rounds.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2020-unbeaten-clubs-could-be-stripped-of-points-in-twoconference-competition/news-story/8afc0f6fe542d1a0cd16a66ec320db1d

Not going to quote the whole article.

Phil Rothfield at home with nothing to do but shit stir.

Yeah I'm sure the St George supporters I know are going to allow their team to be relocated to Queensland.

Journalist is a first class  :censored: . He makes stuff up and then prints it as fact. Has so many enemies it wouldn't surprise if he was found with a bullet in his head one day.

This is "Uncle Phil's" conference system. He couldn't fit 8 teams in the Sydney conference so he thought "whose supporters are the most passionate?" and of course St George because their fans will have a fit and it will create mayhem.

SYDNEY
Roosters
Rabbitohs
Sharks
Sea Eagles
Wests Tigers
Eels
Bulldogs
Panthers

OUTSIDE
Cowboys
Broncos
Titans
Knights
Dragons
Raiders
Warriors
Storm

THE SEASON
7 week regular season
4 week finals
3 weeks Origin
Total: 14 week season

If they have a seven week "circus" comp that gives some teams a 4 point head start I hope Easts just send up some young fellas to get experience and rest their best players.

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« 2020-Apr-07, 08:42 AM Reply #51 »

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« 2020-Apr-12, 02:49 PM Reply #52 »
The NRL season relaunch in May is getting muddier and muddier. NRL says they have a letter to give them permission while the Federal and NSW Health are taking a different stance. Channel 9 does not want to pay the full money while Fox is waiting and breeding viewers.


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« 2020-Apr-12, 03:00 PM Reply #53 »
The CEO's of Easts, Cronulla and new Zealand want the results of the first two rounds to be scrubbed.  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

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« 2020-Apr-12, 10:12 PM Reply #54 »
Well what's the point of having a"circus comp" over 13 rounds where 3 sides start from -4 points. They have no chance.

This is a different comp. Not the one announced at the beginning of the year.

Nick is right. All teams to start on zero points. Or don't bother.

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« 2020-Apr-12, 11:46 PM Reply #55 »
Well what's the point of having a"circus comp" over 13 rounds where 3 sides start from -4 points. They have no chance.

This is a different comp. Not the one announced at the beginning of the year.

Nick is right. All teams to start on zero points. Or don't bother.

Typical Rooster / Sharks fan..  :lol:

Go the knights and their 4 pts. It is a handicap.

The good mail is there has to be a fair bit of grovelling on NRL’s part before the relaunch is a reality. There are some big noses out of joint that a few parties were not advised properly prior to the media date announcement.

Also the Covid19 cases are yet to peak over next few weeks especially after Easter so hard to know when restrictions will be lifted in NSW.

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« 2020-Apr-20, 07:47 PM Reply #56 »
I know nothing about NRL but logged on anyway to see if there was any comment about Greenberg being given the bullet and found nothing. Does  VLandys now take over as chair and CEO?

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« 2020-Apr-20, 09:03 PM Reply #57 »
He will be replaced by chief commercial officer Andrew Abdo in the interim as part of the first big shake-up of the Peter V'landys era.

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« 2020-Apr-20, 09:19 PM Reply #58 »
Gould May get the gig.

I think he was what is needed

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« 2020-Apr-20, 09:39 PM Reply #59 »
His head will get even bigger than what it is. :(

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« 2020-Apr-20, 11:30 PM Reply #60 »
It will come down to V’Landys. If he does not want the job, he will give it to someone he can work with which will be Abdo although the South CEO is getting a lot of traction at the moment.

If V’landys pulls off a May 28 resumption, he will call the shots for awhile. Most thought there will be a power play between Greenberg and V’Landys at the start of the year. When Beattie gave up the role last year, he wanted Greenberg’s contract extended as part of his departure. Obviously V’landys has chucked that condition aside.

Abdo is acting CEO for awhile and I can’t see anything changing at NRL other than it will get leaner for awhile.

Heard some of the sponsors are not around for the NRL and Nine as they are struggling financially due to Covid19.

V’Landys is walking the tight rope with NRL and Racing. They are one Covid19 positive away from shutting down in any code that gets a positive. However V’landys is the man for league and racing at the moment as he has some very good ideas and is good on the follow through. He is a strong leader. He has backed down on getting government money to bail out NRL and has gone for independent financing. If the season goes to completion this year, he will be a messiah for the NRL.

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« 2020-Apr-21, 07:12 AM Reply #61 »
His head will get even bigger than what it is. :(

It may well do but.......

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« 2020-Apr-21, 03:26 PM Reply #62 »
From the Guardian

The only surprise with Todd Greenberg’s departure from his role as NRL chief executive was the timing. And given the concerted media attack in recent days, perhaps even that wasn’t a shock. Greenberg was off with chairman Peter V’landys and there is not a long list of those who have fallen out of favour with the ARLC boss and survived.

Greenberg’s cards were essentially marked last September. Peter Beattie, after his beleaguered tenure, announced he would step down as ARLC chairman. Peter V’landys was emerging as his likely replacement. Already widely regarded as a strongman with enormous political clout and a penchant for imposing his will, the knock on him was that he would struggle to run both Racing NSW and the NRL.

Greenberg saw this as an opportunity to assert his power in the game. He canvassed behind the scenes to stop V’landys’ ascension. It was a play that was reckless and ignorant. A train was powering at full steam and he failed to heed the warning. It was a fundamental misevaluation of power - both his and that of the oncoming train.

V’landys’ influence is significant. When it comes to sporting administration in Australia, he is a strongman who has built his base on an ability to deliver, force of personality and sheer will. While his power is relatively unprecedented in recent times in Australian sport, his ability to influence and dictate is hardly a secret. A man who is willing to argue that the Melbourne Cup should be moved is a man afraid of nobody and a man not concerned about either enemies or political chicanery.

It was only a matter of time once V’landys was appointed ARLC chairman that Greenberg would be gone. The drums were beating at the start of the season that changes were afoot but the coronavirus pandemic seemed to stave off the firing squad. It was thought he would at least be able to see the return of the game but it has been widely reported that V’landys has been frustrated with the lack of action and delivery from the executive team. Those of action are often irked by those who cannot deliver. V’landys is a doer. Optics mean little to him.

Combined with the stinging criticism delivered by Nine of Greenberg’s administration and the need for the chairman to increasingly involve himself in operational matters, it was clear Greenberg’s days were numbers. He had lost the confidence of his boss to do the job.

There was a considerable lack of concern in clubland about the leadership and performance of NRL HQ to boot. While it was labeled “bloated” last week by Nine boss Hugh Marks, the bigger concern for clubs was the decided lack of output.

With Greenberg, there was lots of sizzle but very little steak. There were trust issues in clubland, no doubt, and only some had to do with finances. The money issues around grant funding and distress fund discrepancies were fairly minor compared to a lack of faith that Greenberg could see a project that would deliver significant benefits for the game from beginning to end. The belief had already calcified that there was more talk than action coming out of HQ when the curtain finally fell on Greenberg’s tenure at the top. At its crux, according to one powerbroker, was that Greenberg could not make the tough decisions.

There is no question that a lot was achieved in his time as NRL boss – the rise of NRLW and the more consistent approach to off-field behavioural issues come to mind. The failings were far too large to overcome, though. The hugely expensive digital project became a white elephant of gargantuan proportions that lived up to all its cost while delivering very few tangible benefits. Hats were hung on The Bunker but that proved to be nothing more than an expensive shiny object that did not improve decision-making accuracy or speed one iota due to a failure to tackle the more complex underlying issues. Delivering commercial outcomes to future-proof the game was always tomorrow’s problem.

Projects were started. Initiatives announced. Rules changed. People hired. People fired. But end-to-end delivery was rare. Projects stalled. Commitments were not followed through. There was too much concern about optics and not enough about substance.

In the end it left Greenberg alone and it left him vulnerable. Even with the support of clubs it would be unlikely he could have survived if he was in the crosshairs of V’landys. Without the backing of the clubs though, he was a bus driver without a bus.

Rugby League has often flirted with democracy. It has dabbled in consensus politics. For the most part though, it is the strongman that survives and the strongman that thrives. Todd Greenberg just didn’t have the style that was going to inspire support and quieten doubters. He is a politician. He is not a strongman. And he could not stop one

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« 2020-Apr-22, 08:33 AM Reply #63 »

There is no question that a lot was achieved in his time as NRL boss – the rise of NRLW and the more consistent approach to off-field behavioural issues come to mind.

This article is clearly written by someone who has NFI.

"The rise of NRLW"   :lol:

Four team comp that gets unashamed free virtue signalling publicity.  Circus style football that has an interest half life of about 24 hours.

And as for the "consistent approach" for off-field issues.

Mitchell Pearce gets sent to the US to undergo rehabilitation for one stupid drunken incident and banned for 9 weeks - just because he played for Easts and everyone hates Easts.

But if you are a Brisbane Broncos player who gets put in jail in Bali? Get off scot free because there is "inconclusive evidence".

Yep. The Guardian sure knows what they are talking about when it comes to sport.

Their founder Malcolm Turnbull was a sport's nut   :lol:


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« 2020-Apr-22, 08:37 AM Reply #64 »
Gould May get the gig.

I think he was what is needed

0% chance of that happening whilst Foxtel/News Corp are paying money to the NRL for their product.

He is hated (to put it mildly) by Phil Rothfield.

I'm predicting that the new CEO will not have any testicles - literally.

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« 2020-Apr-22, 11:38 AM Reply #65 »



Could be spot on PP.

My mail is Peta Cretin.......no obvious testicles.....little caution needed with my mail source ......I'm in lockdown with her and I've been telling her for over 40 years that she doesn't know anything about rugby league.  :lol:   :lol:

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« 2020-Apr-22, 03:29 PM Reply #66 »
Peta and Peter could be a formidable team. They sound alike and take no prisoners.

On a side note, it is interesting how much money was spent on the digital arm of the NRL. It was set up so fans could bypass Nine or Foxtel to access content. Now I wonder how much of that Department will exist.

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« 2020-Apr-22, 09:33 PM Reply #67 »
May 28 seems set in stone for the season to resume.

The interesting aspect  will be the plans of the Qld and Victorian sides. There is resistance within the teams to relocate themselves for 4-5 months. I am not sure if Vic or Qld Governments will allow them fly in and fly out for games.


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« 2020-Apr-28, 03:18 PM Reply #68 »
Latrell Mitchell to face court over firearm charge after coronavirus camping trip near Taree

NRL superstar Latrell Mitchell is expected to be hit with firearm charges after he and Josh Addo-Carr were part of a now-infamous hunting trip which breached coronavirus public health orders.

NRL star Latrell Mitchell will be served a summons as early as today to appear in court on a firearms offence emerging from his now infamous hunting and camping trip on the NSW mid-north coast.

Mitchell attended Taree police station on Tuesday morning, a day after he and fellow NRL players Josh Addo-Carr and Tyronne Roberts-Davis were fined $1000 for breaching COVID-19 health restrictions.

Addo-Carr is also being investigated in relation to a possible firearms charge following the weekend trip to Mitchell’s property at Caffrey’s Flat, west of Taree.

Mitchell walked into Taree police station on Tuesday morning and briefly spoke with officers.

He surrendered three firearms and his gun licence, which has been suspended.

Another three guns stored in Sydney are also expected to be seized.

Mitchell is expected to be charged under a section of the NSW Firearms Act (1996) which states a person must not give possession of a firearm to another person unless the other person is authorised to possess the firearm by a licence or permit, or is otherwise authorised to have possession of the firearm.

The charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in jail.

Addo-Carr had uploaded images of the men, along with Newcastle Knights player Roberts-Davis and about nine other people, showing them at the property and riding trail bikes on a beach about 200km away between South West Rocks and Hat Head.

The social media images prompted an NRL investigation and saw them fined by police with failing to adhere to the coronavirus lockdown laws.

Addo-Carr had been warned twice in 11 days for violating COVID-19 restrictions before he was caught for a third time on a weekend camping trip that has thrown the NRL into crisis.

The NRL was hit with another fresh controversy on Tuesday after Penrith Panthers star Nathan Cleary became the latest player to be caught up in a social-distancing drama after images on the Penrith halfback emerged with a group of girls.

The NRL are investigating claims Cleary broke social distancing rules on Anzac Day when a group of women visited his western Sydney home.

Commentator Phil Gould, who said Addo-Carr and Mitchell should be suspended for the remainder of the 2020 NRL season, said Cleary should face the same fate.

“No excuse. Serious breach. Granted Nathan says the incident was not planned, which obviously differs from the Josh/Latrell situation, however, players need to be vigilant. They need to protect themselves, their teammates, and the game. For mine, blanket penalties should apply.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/thenewcastlenews/latrell-mitchell-to-face-court-over-firearm-charge-after-coronavirus-camping-trip-near-taree/

Souths and Melbourne players - will get a slap on the wrist. Always get favoritism.

If it was a Rooster they'd be suspended for 9 weeks and sent overseas for "rehabilitation".

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« 2020-Apr-28, 03:19 PM Reply #69 »
How old are those girls with Cleary - they look about 13 or 14


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« 2020-Apr-28, 04:56 PM Reply #70 »
Nathan :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: who could blame the kid. Sure beats camping

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« 2020-Apr-29, 08:14 AM Reply #71 »
How old are those girls with Cleary - they look about 13 or 14

 . . . Well I am young enough to whistle; and too old to remember why . .  :whistle:

So, I'd say  :chin:  that they are 'too young  to whistle . .'




My guess is that Nate was helping them with their on-line schooling  :blush:

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« 2020-Apr-29, 09:35 AM Reply #72 »
How hypocritical are those NRL fools who were caught breaking social distancing rules from their so called mates but rode unregistered motor bikes on a beach and one is likely to be charged with firearm offences without having a gun licence.
So where is the hypocrisy there ? Was it Latrell who said he got together with his “cousins” to share some “culture” in this time of isolation.Well how far back into indigenous history does one have to go to find aboriginal culture that involves riding motor bikes or firing guns ? He must surely be living in a dream world rather than in Dreamtime.
If they had been playing a digeredoo or were fishing on a river bank he may have had a reasonable case but guns and motor bikes make a mockery of his limp excuse.

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« 2020-Apr-29, 11:21 AM Reply #73 »
How hypocritical are those NRL fools who were caught breaking social distancing rules from their so called mates but rode unregistered motor bikes on a beach and one is likely to be charged with firearm offences without having a gun licence.
So where is the hypocrisy there ? Was it Latrell who said he got together with his “cousins” to share some “culture” in this time of isolation.Well how far back into indigenous history does one have to go to find aboriginal culture that involves riding motor bikes or firing guns ? He must surely be living in a dream world rather than in Dreamtime.
If they had been playing a digeredoo or were fishing on a river bank he may have had a reasonable case but guns and motor bikes make a mockery of his limp excuse.

The real hypocrisy lay in the fact that the NRL wouldn't register a contract for Israel Folau because he quoted the bible on twitter.

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« 2020-Apr-29, 11:25 AM Reply #74 »
racism,

They should be fined triple for claiming racism when none existed at all.

Its time they were told they are not special and not entitled but way way way over paid to other professions such as nurses and teachers and that they were in fact spoilt children rather than men.

Fours


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