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Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jan-16, 09:01 AM
A thread for the 2020 season

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Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jan-16, 09:05 AM
Latrell Mitchell playing fullback for Souths apparently.

Not sure how they can fit him under the slary cap but there you go.

My maths indicates that someone has to go in the Souths backline.

Adam Dhouli seemed to be doing very well. Dane Gagai and Alex Johnstone are good players.

Can't play 'em all.

Josh Addo-Carr wants to be a Rooster.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jan-16, 09:10 AM
I'm looking for the requisite pre-season "Paramatta will win this year" article but apart from a prediction by Zero Tackle this will happen cannot find anything else.

Maybe....... :chin:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Jan-16, 09:17 AM
PP, can you put the starting odds on your initial post. Just pick anyone. This way people can see the fluctuations over the year.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jan-16, 06:47 PM
PP, that could become an iconic opening photo image

As to souths salary cap, please enlighten us why Souths need to get rid of anyone to get Mitchell


Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Jan-27, 12:08 PM
Joe Ofengahue and Curtis Scott charged by police over seperate incidents.

Josh Reynolds video doing the rounds.

It means NRL season is around the corner. 7 weeks to go.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Jan-27, 04:04 PM
  :biggrin:  :)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Jan-27, 04:35 PM

It means NRL season is around the corner. 7 weeks to go.

Can't come soon enough  :thumbsup:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-Jan-27, 07:49 PM
Joe Ofengahue and Curtis Scott charged by police over seperate incidents.

Parents should always try to channel kids into sport . .

Everybody knows it's a great way to keep them out of mischief
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Feb-03, 08:14 PM
Bennett no longer English coach.

Souths will be happy. No other distractions. They do have a very good team but need their halves to fire and go to another level if they want to be premiers. I still think they need one more solid forward to be competitive.

The big smokey are the knights. We have the players. Top 8 is the goal for us. I still think we are a quality back and forward to be a top 4 side. I am not sold on our halves and hooker combinations. I just think there is too much pressure on Ponga. We have too many journeymen for the past few years. We should bought more youngsters a few years ago.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Feb-05, 01:39 PM
Bennett no longer English coach.

Souths will be happy. No other distractions. They do have a very good team but need their halves to fire and go to another level if they want to be premiers. I still think they need one more solid forward to be competitive.

The big smokey are the knights. We have the players. Top 8 is the goal for us. I still think we are a quality back and forward to be a top 4 side. I am not sold on our halves and hooker combinations. I just think there is too much pressure on Ponga. We have too many journeymen for the past few years. We should bought more youngsters a few years ago.

They have a great looking backline and the best hooker.

Just wondering how the forwards will stand up against (say) Canberra's pack.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Feb-05, 05:54 PM
They have a great looking backline and the best hooker.

Just wondering how the forwards will stand up against (say) Canberra's pack.

Very hard for a side to bounce back after a GF loss if no regular GF experience for a while. The Raiders do have a good side though.

I am more intrigued how Brisbane, Parra, Sharks, Panthers and Dragons go. The expectations will be high for them.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Feb-05, 08:30 PM
They have a great looking backline and the best hooker.

Just wondering how the forwards will stand up against (say) Canberra's pack.

I hope you’re not talking about the knights
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Feb-06, 10:23 PM
I hope you’re not talking about the knights

I was talking about your mob who have had to let Dhouli go (told ya they had cap problems signing Mitchell)

He was all ready to go to The Roosters but at the last minute Wests Tigers upped their offer and he will be there in 2020

I have it on good authority that Easts will be chasing Bronson Xerri when his contract is up at The Sharks and have made their interest known. He is worth far more than $500k per year on the open market.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sharks/exclusive-teenage-sharks-gun-xerri-rejects-500kaseason-deal/news-story/2afbd191c9ffec6e5a413d5c33329cc4
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Feb-07, 09:02 AM
PP

Doueihi didn’t leave due to cap problems.
He spat the dummy and didn’t back himself. I’m glad he’s gone but in saying that, stick him in your supercoach team if you do those things
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Feb-07, 09:25 AM
PP

Doueihi didn’t kea e due to cap problems.
He spat the dummy and didn’t back himself. I’m glad he’s gone but in saying that, stick him in your supercoach team if you do those things

You only get 2 picks for fullback. Thus you have Tommy T, Tedesco, Ponga, Papenhausen, Holmes, Tuivasa Scheck, Nicoll Klokstad etc to choose from.

It is hard as some named are very expensive too.

I came back to SuperCoach last year after a 10 year absence and I regretted even though I went fairly well.

You end up supporting players instead of bets and your teams. So no more this year.   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Feb-07, 03:23 PM
Very hard for a side to bounce back after a GF loss if no regular GF experience for a while. The Raiders do have a good side though.

I am more intrigued how Brisbane, Parra, Sharks, Panthers and Dragons go. The expectations will be high for them.

The key to everything is injuries, if you can stay injury free you'll go ok.

The Eels have got a settled line up, another pre-season under the belt of a few young blokes & have arguably traded up with RCG & Matterson coming into the pack.

I've got us pegged as a 4 to 6 side behind Easts, Storm & Souffs.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Feb-09, 09:07 AM
The Josh Reynolds saga has taken a very strange turn involving catfishing, fake pregnancies etc.

https://www.watoday.com.au/national/nsw/josh-reynolds-life-unravels-amid-catfishing-claims-20200208-p53z0b.html
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-11, 05:20 PM
One day to go and we have this happening.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/phil-gould-slams-bulldogs-corey-harawira-naera-jayden-okunbor-schoolgirl-scandal/e649bcc9-82de-4357-aef1-2746ac00b86c

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-11, 08:34 PM
Bulldogs. North Coast NSW.

What did they expect.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-21, 01:33 PM
It is interesting watching the league with no crowds. It is like watching local or park football with the sounds of the impact and on ground chatter.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Mar-22, 07:32 AM
I’m enjoying it :thumbsup:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-22, 10:04 AM
I’m enjoying it :thumbsup:

It makes it more real and actually like being there with the noise, chatter etc. You can actually almost feel the emotion again and reminds me of playing league / union when I was young.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-22, 11:18 AM
Call it off for 2020.

They cannot rationalize the hypocrisy of introducing "social distancing" for some - which causes al loss of work in many instances - whilst allowing NRL players special privilege.

The empty stadiums themselves are a reason to call it off on two levels:

i) Creates a hollow product
ii) How can you say "ban crowds" then allow a "crowd" down on the playing surface?

It is such a bad look.

And it will look even worse when you get the first "player to player" spread of the disease.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-22, 12:16 PM
PP, I agree with you. Unfortunately it comes down to politics and your man V’landys. He inherited an organisation that financially should have been very secure based on tv deals and sponsorship etc.

Now V’landys has to look after everyone and will get the blame regardless. He is looking after the NRL but socially it is a big elephant in the room.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Mar-22, 12:19 PM
Call it off for 2020.

They cannot rationalize the hypocrisy of introducing "social distancing" for some - which causes al loss of work in many instances - whilst allowing NRL players special privilege.

The empty stadiums themselves are a reason to call it off on two levels:

i) Creates a hollow product
ii) How can you say "ban crowds" then allow a "crowd" down on the playing surface?

It is such a bad look.

And it will look even worse when you get the first "player to player" spread of the disease.

 :bulb: His team must be off to a bad start for the year.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: fours on 2020-Mar-22, 12:27 PM
Social contract...

Sports that people get tribal about en masse have social value and it is important for people in lock down to have things like sport to watch and or discuss.

Personally I think the AFL has appropriate level crowds right now as in soccer kicking a ball dead straight at the goal keeper is regarded as a very poor skill level and the same goes for wide or high - no points in each case. The AFL has it all wrong in this regard  but maybe as a soccer player I am biased.

Mind you at Uni my soccer team took on a bunch of AFL guys who disputed this and we played each other at both sports. They beat us just at AFL but we absolutely thrashed them at soccer. Long lankey guys poorly coordinated at ground level. They did not argue the point any more.

Fours
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Mar-22, 02:59 PM
Call it off for 2020.

They cannot rationalize the hypocrisy of introducing "social distancing" for some - which causes al loss of work in many instances - whilst allowing NRL players special privilege.

The empty stadiums themselves are a reason to call it off on two levels:

i) Creates a hollow product
ii) How can you say "ban crowds" then allow a "crowd" down on the playing surface?

It is such a bad look.

And it will look even worse when you get the first "player to player" spread of the disease.

Geez PP, you’ve just managed to sound like one of those lefty hand whringers

“It’s such a bad look”🤔

Go sit in a corner?    No way :thumbsd:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Mar-22, 02:59 PM
:bulb: His team must be off to a bad start for the year.

I suspect you’re right   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Mar-22, 03:03 PM
I'm happy while they can play on as it gives an outlet for many but I can see the outcry of the 'non' fan. You only have to read the SMH facebook page for the 'outrage'. It's the same group of people who are outraged over anything and everything  :wacko:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Mar-22, 03:24 PM
Exactly. People lacking the mentality to get away from the virtue signalling herds
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-22, 05:01 PM
NRL will be forced to follow suit now

Coronavirus: AFL suspends the season

With states closing their borders due to the coronavirus crisis, the AFL has suspended its season until May 31.

AFL chief executive Gillon McLachlan made the announcement at a press conference this afternoon, with matches still in progress to complete the opening round.

The AFLW season has been abandoned and no premier will be named after Prime Minister Scott Morrison called on Australians to cancel all non-essential travel within the country.

If the NRL does follow suit they should issue a new draw and put all teams back on zero points. It's only fair.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: fours on 2020-Mar-22, 05:34 PM
tea leaf reading,

Forget the entire season.

Every time they relax the restraints the exponential growth will resume. This is why it will take many months to play out.

Fours
ps horse racing taxes help pay for essential services - sometimes forgotten entirely by those who look down on it
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Mar-22, 06:45 PM
If the NRL does follow suit they should issue a new draw and put all teams back on zero points. It's only fair.


How did I know you’d say that🤪
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-22, 08:11 PM
What a debacle this is turning out to be for me.

Liverpool leading the premier league by a mile, the knights going really well and literally all my European teams leading their leagues.

But the deaths and the shutdowns around the world put things in perspective.

Whatever happens, if we all remain safe we can make fun of PP and his calls for sharks to be given a head start.  :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Mar-22, 08:37 PM
What a debacle this is turning out to be for me.

 we can make fun of PP and his calls for sharks Easts to be given a head start.

Easts.

But he has two bob each way.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-22, 09:06 PM
Easts.

But he has two bob each way.

But I love all the Sydney teams. Even Souths.

NRL reaffirms commitment to play on as AFL suspends competition

The NRL has reaffirmed its commitment on Sunday to continue playing the Telstra Premiership season for the time being.

NRL CEO Todd Greenberg said it was the ARL Commission's intention to proceed with the competition until there is advice from government to shut down matches.

AFL CEO Gillon McLachlan on Sunday announced their competition would be suspended until at least the end of May due to the global coronavirus pandemic.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2020/03/22/nrl-reaffirms-commitment-to-play-on-as-afl-suspends-competition/

All of those AFL supporters will just have to watch the "Thugby".

But I reckon the NRL will be told to stop.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-22, 09:37 PM
More and more, NRL and ALeague standout for the wrong reasons now with the non sporting people.

They are better off taking them all to a secluded place and playing league or A league. Chances are if any player catches Covid19, they may try to hide it for the sake of their mates and the comp plus livelihood etc.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-23, 06:32 AM
Professional punter awarded $50,000 in defamation dispute with The Age

Controversial gambling identity and former brothel owner Eddie Hayson has been awarded $50,000 in damages after successfully suing The Age for defamation over an article accusing him of match-fixing.

Mr Hayson, a professional gambler, sued the masthead for defamation over an article in the print edition of The Age on June 3, 2016, headlined "Match-fixing link to gambler".

The publication conceded the article conveyed two defamatory claims, namely that he was involved in a "criminal scheme" with a jockey to match-fix a South Sydney Rabbitohs versus Manly Sea Eagles rugby league match in 2015 and paid six players $50,000 each to underperform so that he could make substantial profits by betting on that match. The Age did not plead a defence of truth.

Mr Hayson denied the allegations in the witness box and Federal Court Justice Robert Bromwich said in a judgment on Thursday that he "found no reason to doubt MrHayson's evidence on this topic, especially as it was not challenged in cross examination".

You'd have to think it was the game late in the season.

Souths were beaten 20-8 by Manly on the 7th August.

This was a suspect period in Rugby League's history.

Souths won the premiership the year before on the back of winning 93% of their penalty counts.  :no:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Antitab# on 2020-Mar-23, 07:25 AM
Professional punter awarded $50,000 in defamation dispute with The Age

Souths were beaten 20-8 by Manly on the 7th August.

This was a suspect period in Rugby League's history.


I agree a suspect period in NRL administration.

Every bookmaker including myself told the NRL investigators they were barking up the wrong tree and the game was legitimate as there was no money trail with legal or illegal bookmakers for Manly.

Yet they still let the story drag on for months. Why they kept giving a negative story with no fact oxygen was mind blowing.

As NRL were informed If Eddie fixed a game,  he to pay players and then bet big enough to make it worth his while.

He would need to have 3 million on. It’s a small market , That sort of money or even a third of that money never turned up.

Peter Beattie and John Grant era will not be judged fondly by history. This was just one of their stuff ups.



Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Mar-23, 09:44 AM


If the NRL does follow suit they should issue a new draw and put all teams back on zero points. It's only fair.

I'm saying call it now, award the comp to the current team on top  :p  :beer:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-23, 05:16 PM
Now that the competition is suspended, I wonder if it will resume this year. Unless there is a total lockdown of all states for at least a month, virus will keep spreading. So I cannot see realistically how it can resume in May. This is the day when all the stood down staff return.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-23, 07:12 PM
Paul Kent was scathing in his attack on some of the people arguing for the NRL to shut down. Reading between the lines I take it the Rugby League hater Peter Fitzsimons was prominent in criticisms. He who claims to be a socialist and drives around in a $170,000 Tesla.

Why the NRL should be admired for having the willingness to fight on amid COVID—19 pandemic

The NRL should be commended for their bravery in trying to keep the competition going, but the alarmists who have forced the postponement could end up killing the game, writes PAUL KENT.

...

The same mob mentality that led to brawls for toilet rolls got their way and pressured the NRL into suspending its competition, the panic of the uneducated.

...

The irony that the criticism against players for still working was coming from journalists still working, some camped in front of headquarters, was completely lost.

...

NSW Premier Gladys Berejiklian yesterday again called the new measures a “no regrets policy”.

The Premier did not want to look back in a month, she said, and believe the Government undersold the danger, or was careless, so the government was overcautious.
Yet she allowed the NRL to play on. She ignored the alarmists because smarter people were advising her.

Yet it was not enough for some, who were still looking to back their first winner after declaring Labor in the last Federal election, steering the Republican movement, campaigning against the barrier draw on the Sydney Opera House and even cheering for the new NRL’s Simply the Best ad.

...

The NRL is already on record saying it has cash for about three months in reserve, about $70 million, before the game would go broke.

A 10-week stand down like the AFL will take the NRL to the brink. The experts need only to be out by a few weeks before some NRL clubs will go to the wall and the entire code could crumble shortly after.

The NRL was a wonderful relief over the weekend.

The stadiums might have been empty but the footy was the kind of distraction that benefited us all.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/why-the-nrl-should-be-admired-for-having-the-willingness-to-fight-on-amid-covid19-pandemic/
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-23, 07:14 PM
I agree a suspect period in NRL administration.


I was only trying to stir up the Souths supporters.

FFS not a single bite on that one. I think they're on to me.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-23, 08:31 PM
Paul Kent and journalists of that ilk who support the NRL playing games should have a hard look at themselves.

Do they really believe that NRL supports the general public or are they trying to protect their own jobs?

Now with NRL season in it’s death throes the longer the virus cases grows, there maybe clubs that need a government handout or could face mergers and oblivion.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-Mar-23, 09:03 PM
I was only trying to stir

Well I'll stir back

Off topic . . but . .  What brand of motor vehicle are socialists supposed to drive  :chin:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-23, 10:49 PM
Well I'll stir back

Off topic . . but . .  What brand of motor vehicle are socialists supposed to drive  :chin:

Tesla or VW depending on income.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Mar-24, 12:42 AM
Well I'll stir back

Off topic . . but . .  What brand of motor vehicle are socialists supposed to drive  :chin:

There are two people all these years down the track who I think have proven themselves to be true prophets.

i) Andy Warhol once said - regarding the future - "Everyone will be famous for 15 minutes."

With the advent of social media, some people have discovered that by saying something really outrageous, you get your name in the mainstream media and become famous for "15 minutes"

ii) George Orwell said "All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." in his satirical novel on Socialism, Animal Farm.

Within the rise of the progressive/leftist/socialist political movement, one of those more equal animals would have to be Peter Fitzsimons, who not only drives around in a red Tesla but lives in Sydney's North shore with his big earning wife Lisa Wilkinson and has enough money to donate a lot of dollars to the political campaign of Zali Steggal.

And he was a pretty ordinary Rugby Union player. He only played 7 tests before they woke up. Was made to look good because of three of my schoolmates a year ahead of me at Matraville High, and only got into the side because he was a "Joeys boy" and nepotism demanded that they always had to have a St. Joseph's boy in the side.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Mar-31, 05:47 PM
If anyone is bored and want to test their memory.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/test-yourself-in-our-ultimate-rugby-league-quiz-part-1/news-story/47641a7e8da08cd375e265bc53b6072a
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-06, 10:08 PM
NRL Reality Island seems to have attracted a lot of support.

No truth to the rumours that betting agencies may pay for the flights.   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-07, 07:16 AM
NRL 2020: Unbeaten clubs could be stripped of points in two-conference competition

With the NRL leaning towards a truncated two-conference competition, one key decision could divide the 16 clubs in more ways than one with the Roosters set to be one of the main beneficiaries.

Phil Rothfield, The Daily Telegraph

NRL teams could be stripped of the competition points they won in the opening two rounds of the season under a highly controversial proposal to restart the premiership with two conferences.

The Daily Telegraph can reveal a deduction of points is a serious option being considered by NRL powerbrokers that will outrage fans of undefeated teams Parramatta, Newcastle, Canberra, Brisbane, Melbourne and Penrith.

And in another shock, the St George Illawarra Dragons could be left out of the Sydney clubs’ conference and be forced to join the out-of-town clubs in a Queensland-based ‘northern’ conference.

League legend Wayne Pearce, who heads up Project Apollo that is analysing various structures and schedules for the rest of the season, admits clubs could lose their points from the opening rounds.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2020-unbeaten-clubs-could-be-stripped-of-points-in-twoconference-competition/news-story/8afc0f6fe542d1a0cd16a66ec320db1d

Not going to quote the whole article.

Phil Rothfield at home with nothing to do but shit stir.

Yeah I'm sure the St George supporters I know are going to allow their team to be relocated to Queensland.

Journalist is a first class  :censored: . He makes stuff up and then prints it as fact. Has so many enemies it wouldn't surprise if he was found with a bullet in his head one day.

This is "Uncle Phil's" conference system. He couldn't fit 8 teams in the Sydney conference so he thought "whose supporters are the most passionate?" and of course St George because their fans will have a fit and it will create mayhem.

SYDNEY
Roosters
Rabbitohs
Sharks
Sea Eagles
Wests Tigers
Eels
Bulldogs
Panthers

OUTSIDE
Cowboys
Broncos
Titans
Knights
Dragons
Raiders
Warriors
Storm

THE SEASON
7 week regular season
4 week finals
3 weeks Origin
Total: 14 week season

If they have a seven week "circus" comp that gives some teams a 4 point head start I hope Easts just send up some young fellas to get experience and rest their best players.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-07, 08:42 AM
Below article shows why clubs need to take partial responsibility for the financial crisis affecting NRL.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-2020-16-clubs-mismanagement-todd-greenberg-funds-coronavirus-covid19-rugby-league/news-story/446f755642b8c5c6d138f65f82efeaf7
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-12, 02:49 PM
The NRL season relaunch in May is getting muddier and muddier. NRL says they have a letter to give them permission while the Federal and NSW Health are taking a different stance. Channel 9 does not want to pay the full money while Fox is waiting and breeding viewers.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Apr-12, 03:00 PM
The CEO's of Easts, Cronulla and new Zealand want the results of the first two rounds to be scrubbed.  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-12, 10:12 PM
Well what's the point of having a"circus comp" over 13 rounds where 3 sides start from -4 points. They have no chance.

This is a different comp. Not the one announced at the beginning of the year.

Nick is right. All teams to start on zero points. Or don't bother.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-12, 11:46 PM
Well what's the point of having a"circus comp" over 13 rounds where 3 sides start from -4 points. They have no chance.

This is a different comp. Not the one announced at the beginning of the year.

Nick is right. All teams to start on zero points. Or don't bother.

Typical Rooster / Sharks fan..  :lol:

Go the knights and their 4 pts. It is a handicap.

The good mail is there has to be a fair bit of grovelling on NRL’s part before the relaunch is a reality. There are some big noses out of joint that a few parties were not advised properly prior to the media date announcement.

Also the Covid19 cases are yet to peak over next few weeks especially after Easter so hard to know when restrictions will be lifted in NSW.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: timw on 2020-Apr-20, 07:47 PM
I know nothing about NRL but logged on anyway to see if there was any comment about Greenberg being given the bullet and found nothing. Does  VLandys now take over as chair and CEO?
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: sobig on 2020-Apr-20, 09:03 PM
He will be replaced by chief commercial officer Andrew Abdo in the interim as part of the first big shake-up of the Peter V'landys era.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Apr-20, 09:19 PM
Gould May get the gig.

I think he was what is needed
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Apr-20, 09:39 PM
His head will get even bigger than what it is. :(
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-20, 11:30 PM
It will come down to V’Landys. If he does not want the job, he will give it to someone he can work with which will be Abdo although the South CEO is getting a lot of traction at the moment.

If V’landys pulls off a May 28 resumption, he will call the shots for awhile. Most thought there will be a power play between Greenberg and V’Landys at the start of the year. When Beattie gave up the role last year, he wanted Greenberg’s contract extended as part of his departure. Obviously V’landys has chucked that condition aside.

Abdo is acting CEO for awhile and I can’t see anything changing at NRL other than it will get leaner for awhile.

Heard some of the sponsors are not around for the NRL and Nine as they are struggling financially due to Covid19.

V’Landys is walking the tight rope with NRL and Racing. They are one Covid19 positive away from shutting down in any code that gets a positive. However V’landys is the man for league and racing at the moment as he has some very good ideas and is good on the follow through. He is a strong leader. He has backed down on getting government money to bail out NRL and has gone for independent financing. If the season goes to completion this year, he will be a messiah for the NRL.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Apr-21, 07:12 AM
His head will get even bigger than what it is. :(

It may well do but.......
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: sobig on 2020-Apr-21, 03:26 PM
From the Guardian

The only surprise with Todd Greenberg’s departure from his role as NRL chief executive was the timing. And given the concerted media attack in recent days, perhaps even that wasn’t a shock. Greenberg was off with chairman Peter V’landys and there is not a long list of those who have fallen out of favour with the ARLC boss and survived.

Greenberg’s cards were essentially marked last September. Peter Beattie, after his beleaguered tenure, announced he would step down as ARLC chairman. Peter V’landys was emerging as his likely replacement. Already widely regarded as a strongman with enormous political clout and a penchant for imposing his will, the knock on him was that he would struggle to run both Racing NSW and the NRL.

Greenberg saw this as an opportunity to assert his power in the game. He canvassed behind the scenes to stop V’landys’ ascension. It was a play that was reckless and ignorant. A train was powering at full steam and he failed to heed the warning. It was a fundamental misevaluation of power - both his and that of the oncoming train.

V’landys’ influence is significant. When it comes to sporting administration in Australia, he is a strongman who has built his base on an ability to deliver, force of personality and sheer will. While his power is relatively unprecedented in recent times in Australian sport, his ability to influence and dictate is hardly a secret. A man who is willing to argue that the Melbourne Cup should be moved is a man afraid of nobody and a man not concerned about either enemies or political chicanery.

It was only a matter of time once V’landys was appointed ARLC chairman that Greenberg would be gone. The drums were beating at the start of the season that changes were afoot but the coronavirus pandemic seemed to stave off the firing squad. It was thought he would at least be able to see the return of the game but it has been widely reported that V’landys has been frustrated with the lack of action and delivery from the executive team. Those of action are often irked by those who cannot deliver. V’landys is a doer. Optics mean little to him.

Combined with the stinging criticism delivered by Nine of Greenberg’s administration and the need for the chairman to increasingly involve himself in operational matters, it was clear Greenberg’s days were numbers. He had lost the confidence of his boss to do the job.

There was a considerable lack of concern in clubland about the leadership and performance of NRL HQ to boot. While it was labeled “bloated” last week by Nine boss Hugh Marks, the bigger concern for clubs was the decided lack of output.

With Greenberg, there was lots of sizzle but very little steak. There were trust issues in clubland, no doubt, and only some had to do with finances. The money issues around grant funding and distress fund discrepancies were fairly minor compared to a lack of faith that Greenberg could see a project that would deliver significant benefits for the game from beginning to end. The belief had already calcified that there was more talk than action coming out of HQ when the curtain finally fell on Greenberg’s tenure at the top. At its crux, according to one powerbroker, was that Greenberg could not make the tough decisions.

There is no question that a lot was achieved in his time as NRL boss – the rise of NRLW and the more consistent approach to off-field behavioural issues come to mind. The failings were far too large to overcome, though. The hugely expensive digital project became a white elephant of gargantuan proportions that lived up to all its cost while delivering very few tangible benefits. Hats were hung on The Bunker but that proved to be nothing more than an expensive shiny object that did not improve decision-making accuracy or speed one iota due to a failure to tackle the more complex underlying issues. Delivering commercial outcomes to future-proof the game was always tomorrow’s problem.

Projects were started. Initiatives announced. Rules changed. People hired. People fired. But end-to-end delivery was rare. Projects stalled. Commitments were not followed through. There was too much concern about optics and not enough about substance.

In the end it left Greenberg alone and it left him vulnerable. Even with the support of clubs it would be unlikely he could have survived if he was in the crosshairs of V’landys. Without the backing of the clubs though, he was a bus driver without a bus.

Rugby League has often flirted with democracy. It has dabbled in consensus politics. For the most part though, it is the strongman that survives and the strongman that thrives. Todd Greenberg just didn’t have the style that was going to inspire support and quieten doubters. He is a politician. He is not a strongman. And he could not stop one
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-22, 08:33 AM

There is no question that a lot was achieved in his time as NRL boss – the rise of NRLW and the more consistent approach to off-field behavioural issues come to mind.

This article is clearly written by someone who has NFI.

"The rise of NRLW"   :lol:

Four team comp that gets unashamed free virtue signalling publicity.  Circus style football that has an interest half life of about 24 hours.

And as for the "consistent approach" for off-field issues.

Mitchell Pearce gets sent to the US to undergo rehabilitation for one stupid drunken incident and banned for 9 weeks - just because he played for Easts and everyone hates Easts.

But if you are a Brisbane Broncos player who gets put in jail in Bali? Get off scot free because there is "inconclusive evidence".

Yep. The Guardian sure knows what they are talking about when it comes to sport.

Their founder Malcolm Turnbull was a sport's nut   :lol:

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-22, 08:37 AM
Gould May get the gig.

I think he was what is needed

0% chance of that happening whilst Foxtel/News Corp are paying money to the NRL for their product.

He is hated (to put it mildly) by Phil Rothfield.

I'm predicting that the new CEO will not have any testicles - literally.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: nemisis on 2020-Apr-22, 11:38 AM

(https://i.postimg.cc/kBf76WfR/Screen-Shot-2020-04-22-at-10-34-52-am.png) (https://postimg.cc/kBf76WfR)

Could be spot on PP.

My mail is Peta Cretin.......no obvious testicles.....little caution needed with my mail source ......I'm in lockdown with her and I've been telling her for over 40 years that she doesn't know anything about rugby league.  :lol:   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-22, 03:29 PM
Peta and Peter could be a formidable team. They sound alike and take no prisoners.

On a side note, it is interesting how much money was spent on the digital arm of the NRL. It was set up so fans could bypass Nine or Foxtel to access content. Now I wonder how much of that Department will exist.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-22, 09:33 PM
May 28 seems set in stone for the season to resume.

The interesting aspect  will be the plans of the Qld and Victorian sides. There is resistance within the teams to relocate themselves for 4-5 months. I am not sure if Vic or Qld Governments will allow them fly in and fly out for games.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-28, 03:18 PM
Latrell Mitchell to face court over firearm charge after coronavirus camping trip near Taree

NRL superstar Latrell Mitchell is expected to be hit with firearm charges after he and Josh Addo-Carr were part of a now-infamous hunting trip which breached coronavirus public health orders.

NRL star Latrell Mitchell will be served a summons as early as today to appear in court on a firearms offence emerging from his now infamous hunting and camping trip on the NSW mid-north coast.

Mitchell attended Taree police station on Tuesday morning, a day after he and fellow NRL players Josh Addo-Carr and Tyronne Roberts-Davis were fined $1000 for breaching COVID-19 health restrictions.

Addo-Carr is also being investigated in relation to a possible firearms charge following the weekend trip to Mitchell’s property at Caffrey’s Flat, west of Taree.

Mitchell walked into Taree police station on Tuesday morning and briefly spoke with officers.

He surrendered three firearms and his gun licence, which has been suspended.

Another three guns stored in Sydney are also expected to be seized.

Mitchell is expected to be charged under a section of the NSW Firearms Act (1996) which states a person must not give possession of a firearm to another person unless the other person is authorised to possess the firearm by a licence or permit, or is otherwise authorised to have possession of the firearm.

The charge carries a maximum penalty of five years in jail.

Addo-Carr had uploaded images of the men, along with Newcastle Knights player Roberts-Davis and about nine other people, showing them at the property and riding trail bikes on a beach about 200km away between South West Rocks and Hat Head.

The social media images prompted an NRL investigation and saw them fined by police with failing to adhere to the coronavirus lockdown laws.

Addo-Carr had been warned twice in 11 days for violating COVID-19 restrictions before he was caught for a third time on a weekend camping trip that has thrown the NRL into crisis.

The NRL was hit with another fresh controversy on Tuesday after Penrith Panthers star Nathan Cleary became the latest player to be caught up in a social-distancing drama after images on the Penrith halfback emerged with a group of girls.

The NRL are investigating claims Cleary broke social distancing rules on Anzac Day when a group of women visited his western Sydney home.

Commentator Phil Gould, who said Addo-Carr and Mitchell should be suspended for the remainder of the 2020 NRL season, said Cleary should face the same fate.

“No excuse. Serious breach. Granted Nathan says the incident was not planned, which obviously differs from the Josh/Latrell situation, however, players need to be vigilant. They need to protect themselves, their teammates, and the game. For mine, blanket penalties should apply.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/thenewcastlenews/latrell-mitchell-to-face-court-over-firearm-charge-after-coronavirus-camping-trip-near-taree/

Souths and Melbourne players - will get a slap on the wrist. Always get favoritism.

If it was a Rooster they'd be suspended for 9 weeks and sent overseas for "rehabilitation".
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-28, 03:19 PM
How old are those girls with Cleary - they look about 13 or 14

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/cbf2cfdf46483a7cb9664fdf04e18cd4?width=1024)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Apr-28, 04:56 PM
Nathan :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: who could blame the kid. Sure beats camping
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-Apr-29, 08:14 AM
How old are those girls with Cleary - they look about 13 or 14

 . . . Well I am young enough to whistle; and too old to remember why . .  :whistle:

So, I'd say  :chin:  that they are 'too young  to whistle . .'




My guess is that Nate was helping them with their on-line schooling  :blush:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2020-Apr-29, 09:35 AM
How hypocritical are those NRL fools who were caught breaking social distancing rules from their so called mates but rode unregistered motor bikes on a beach and one is likely to be charged with firearm offences without having a gun licence.
So where is the hypocrisy there ? Was it Latrell who said he got together with his “cousins” to share some “culture” in this time of isolation.Well how far back into indigenous history does one have to go to find aboriginal culture that involves riding motor bikes or firing guns ? He must surely be living in a dream world rather than in Dreamtime.
If they had been playing a digeredoo or were fishing on a river bank he may have had a reasonable case but guns and motor bikes make a mockery of his limp excuse.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Apr-29, 11:21 AM
How hypocritical are those NRL fools who were caught breaking social distancing rules from their so called mates but rode unregistered motor bikes on a beach and one is likely to be charged with firearm offences without having a gun licence.
So where is the hypocrisy there ? Was it Latrell who said he got together with his “cousins” to share some “culture” in this time of isolation.Well how far back into indigenous history does one have to go to find aboriginal culture that involves riding motor bikes or firing guns ? He must surely be living in a dream world rather than in Dreamtime.
If they had been playing a digeredoo or were fishing on a river bank he may have had a reasonable case but guns and motor bikes make a mockery of his limp excuse.

The real hypocrisy lay in the fact that the NRL wouldn't register a contract for Israel Folau because he quoted the bible on twitter.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: fours on 2020-Apr-29, 11:25 AM
racism,

They should be fined triple for claiming racism when none existed at all.

Its time they were told they are not special and not entitled but way way way over paid to other professions such as nurses and teachers and that they were in fact spoilt children rather than men.

Fours
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Apr-29, 01:34 PM
Gus had a point when he advocated suspensions for all. 2 -3 players are riding unregistered motor bikes and using unlicensed guns while the other brainiac has 5 young girls at his place who were waiting for an Uber.

In regards to Ado Carr and Mitchell, they broke the law so not sure why no suspension unless the NRL were more worried about social isolation infractions than breaking the law.

Cleary technically did not break any law than social isolation laws but it is not a great image for the game for a star player to be with 5 young girls. One seems to be almost sitting on his lap too.

I wonder how many players are sanitising their social media or banning phones from parties now.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-May-02, 12:18 PM
How hypocritical are those NRL fools who were caught breaking social distancing rules

I just went looking for your condemnation comments on the AFL thread about Lauchie Hunter or Tyson Stengle but I couldn't find any?

I guess what we can deduce from that is - 1) you only come here to stir 2) shows your hypocrisy 3) no body gives a f%^k about the AFL seeing there is 4 comments on the thread   :lol:





Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-02, 12:50 PM
I just went looking for your condemnation comments on the AFL thread about Lauchie Hunter or Tyson Stengle but I couldn't find any?

I guess what we can deduce from that is - 1) you only come here to stir 2) shows your hypocrisy 3) no body gives a f%^k about the AFL seeing there is 4 comments on the thread   :lol:

It's not personal bubba but that is the impression I get from every anti NRL person :sad:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-02, 01:22 PM
Gus had a point when he advocated suspensions for all. 2 -3 players are riding unregistered motor bikes and using unlicensed guns while the other brainiac has 5 young girls at his place who were waiting for an Uber.

In regards to Ado Carr and Mitchell, they broke the law so not sure why no suspension unless the NRL were more worried about social isolation infractions than breaking the law.

Cleary technically did not break any law than social isolation laws but it is not a great image for the game for a star player to be with 5 young girls. One seems to be almost sitting on his lap too.

I wonder how many players are sanitising their social media or banning phones from parties now.

They set a precedent when they sent Mitchell Pearce out for 9 weeks in 2015 which just put Easts out for the entire season.

Can't believe they never got a suspension, and a fine reduced by 60%.

Favoritism rears its' ugly head.  Crowe must have a lot of "influence"  ;)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-May-02, 03:02 PM
It was one of Greenberg's flaws, the bias he showed against certain clubs.

Corey Norman cops it for having a pill on him but the 2 Kiwi players only get suspended from a couple of tests for video showing them snorting lines  :shutup:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-02, 11:18 PM
It was one of Greenberg's flaws, the bias he showed against certain clubs.

Corey Norman cops it for having a pill on him but the 2 Kiwi players only get suspended from a couple of tests for video showing them snorting lines  :shutup:

Greenberg actually apologized to Pearce a couple of years ago.

That was one of the most disgraceful incidents in Rugby League, and is the reason I rarely watch Channel 9 and their "Footy Show" or "A Current Affair".

To pay $250,000 for a video taken by a sneak hiding in a cupboard whilst someone outside goads him into doing something stupid whilst he had had a few, then running a daytime ad campaign saying "watch tonight's A Current Affair where we show a first grade footballer having sex with a dog" (which was a lie), to me was just beyond the pale.

This is the same media organization that goes around saying it should receive special treatment in the eyes of the law because they publish in "the public's best interest". FFS.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-02, 11:28 PM
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-03, 06:32 PM
An interesting article about NRL and changes for the administration of it.

Mal Is supposed to be on $300k per year. It will be intriguing to find out how much Fittler and Walters get for their Origin gigs.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8279883/NRL-good-times-hid-deep-cracks-league-costing-500k-day-run.html
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-08, 09:15 PM
Surprised that nobody has broached the 'conscientious objectors' subject

Black and white to me . . No jab = No play

Protection for the 'herd' and for the individual
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-08, 09:38 PM
I think these anti-vaxxers are  :censored: wits , hese ones that don't have their vaccinated but as far as  I know this is the first year that there has been an NRL discussion re flu jabs?

Why have they become mandatory this year?

As far as I know these are just like all the other flu jabs that people either get or don't get every year. they have nothing to do with the coronavirus.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-08, 10:01 PM
This is also the first year that there has been CV-19 . . my point of view is that the flu' is a mitigating factor as regards the CV-19 . . so even passing on flu' virus is not helpful to anybody

These poor sods need protecting from themselves . . as has been evidenced so many times in so many areas
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-09, 12:21 AM
You'd be surprised how far up the Richter Scale Of Fears is the "fear of needles".

People who are afflicted will go to extraordinary lengths to avoid needles all through their life.

My best mate growing up lived two doors down. His father was a Yugoslav immigrant. Towering bloke could have been a Heavyweight boxer. Scared the begeezus out of everyone but had a great sense of humour and was a very good friend of the family.

Morbid fear of needles.

He had a stroke on his dying day and got rushed to hospital but even though he was in critical condition his fear of needles won out and he died without a drip in his arm.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-09, 07:42 AM
Well one of them overcame his 'morbid fear'/ 'principled objection'  :whistle:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-May-09, 12:35 PM

As far as I know these are just like all the other flu jabs that people either get or don't get every year. they have nothing to do with the coronavirus.

Setting aside COVID, I'm surprised this hasn't been mandatory from the clubs before (forget the NRL) after all the players are the 'asset'. You can lose a comp for not having your best team on the park through injury or illness.

Wouldn't you do what you can to protect your asset and maintain a healthy squad to the best of your ability?
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-09, 04:20 PM
I think these anti-vaxxers are  :censored: wits , hese ones that don't have their vaccinated but as far as  I know this is the first year that there has been an NRL discussion re flu jabs?

Why have they become mandatory this year?

As far as I know these are just like all the other flu jabs that people either get or don't get every year. they have nothing to do with the coronavirus.


 these ones that don't have their kids vaccinated
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-10, 01:27 PM
Talks about a $2.3b deal for next 7 years. Great deal for Fox and Nine if the NRL digital arm is part of the deal or reduced coverage. Previous deal was $1.8 for 5 years. AFL deal will be interesting  as they were first off the rank last time and had all the networks competing for it.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-close-to-finalising-23-billion-broadcast-deal/news-story/41e04e0af6cd4d0a69eae1cd9302fc37
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-10, 02:14 PM
Talks about a $2.3b deal for next 7 years. Great deal for Fox and Nine if the NRL digital arm is part of the deal or reduced coverage. Previous deal was $1.8 for 5 years. AFL deal will be interesting  as they were first off the rank last time and had all the networks competing for it.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-close-to-finalising-23-billion-broadcast-deal/news-story/41e04e0af6cd4d0a69eae1cd9302fc37

Wrong thread Jeunes   :biggrin:

I'll post something on the "bag PVL for no reason thread"   :biggrin:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-10, 04:30 PM
Wrong thread Jeunes    :biggrin:  

I'll post something on the "bag PVL for no reason thread"    :biggrin:

Not sure what you are on about as it is a NRL deal.

Last deal worked out to be $360 mill per year as it was $1.8b over 5. This one works out be around $328 per year.  Thus about $32m per year less than last deal. The article did mention a discount for this year so was it a $200m discount?

Saying that nine and Foxtel don’t have that much money especially with Foxtel shedding staff. So with the new world order with Covid19, this could be one of the best deals ever in Australian sporting tvdeals ever.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-14, 11:24 PM
The one referee in a game saga gets more stranger every day.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-vlandys-hits-out-at-ludicrous-referees-following-fair-work-commission-dispute/bd5858f1-9ac4-47c3-9d87-b83525f54016
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-May-16, 12:32 PM
The one referee in a game saga gets more stranger every day.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-vlandys-hits-out-at-ludicrous-referees-following-fair-work-commission-dispute/bd5858f1-9ac4-47c3-9d87-b83525f54016

I've liked PV bash and barge to get the game back but this changing of rules & refs seems like he simply wants to stamp his mark - shows the ego of the bloke.

Shocking decision to be making changes now without having at least trialed it  emthdown

He's an opportunity to showcase to the world as one of the first sports back up and running and what do we do? Create confusion and change around the way the game is played  :stop:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-17, 09:59 PM
This does seem strange. Walker going to the police for an alleged blackmail plot about footage of Walker kicking a bloke.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/rabbitohs-cody-walker-star-goes-to-police-claiming-blackmail-south-sydney-nrl/db8d46b6-790e-48ea-bb0d-bd15effdddea
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-18, 01:00 AM
This does seem strange. Walker going to the police for an alleged blackmail plot about footage of Walker kicking a bloke.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/rabbitohs-cody-walker-star-goes-to-police-claiming-blackmail-south-sydney-nrl/db8d46b6-790e-48ea-bb0d-bd15effdddea

The story has two threads, with Walker likely to be asked to explain the original incident and also how the alleged blackmail unfolded.

The Integrity Unit investigation puts a cloud over his immediate future as the Rabbitohs prepare to resume their season against the Roosters on Friday week.


Him and Latrell Mitchell.

One gets the feeling that Rugby League is a thing that gets in the way of their lives.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-18, 07:58 AM
Pp, I suggest you don’t jump to early conclusions  ;)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-18, 09:44 AM
I am not sure what is going on at Souths at the moment with Mitchell (social isolation issues) , Roberts ( rehab) and now Walker (blackmail) involved in off field issues. We also had a public spat involving Richardson resignation and then others calling him out for issues with Burgess etc.

It is quite unlike Souths who have become more professional than most
In the last decade. I think some of these issues happens at others at other clubs too but because of their profile no one really cares as much. Souths to their credit have always been upfront too unlike others.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-20, 06:55 PM
Another scandal??

Associates and/ or culprits can be forensically identified??
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-20, 07:25 PM
What’s happened?
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-20, 08:16 PM
What’s happened?


Cody Walker was involved in a street brawl in Casino. There is film of him kicking someone. The police have said there has been no complaint so they will not do anything.

Expect the NRL to follow suit. He will get off scot free.

Mitchell Pearce when he played for Easts in 2015 got 9 weeks for just being drunk in someone's unit. Filmed by someone hiding in a closet. sold to Channel 9 for $250k.

Funny how the penalties differ according to which club you play for  emthdown
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-20, 08:49 PM
What’s happened?

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-dally-m-coach-of-the-year-betting-sting-police-raid-sydney-homes/news-story/e79e651615166078f2aa07a4f225cc56
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-21, 08:06 AM
Thanks Arthur
It will be interesting to see how it plays out
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-21, 09:22 AM
There have been lots of similar cases in the past . . and will be into the future

A great reminder about betting on anything that can talk
 
Perhaps with forensic examination of computers the original leak may be determined and proven . . but if the defence of 'following the money' is used, I don't see any recourse, unless Corps have 'fine print' to cover such cases . .

But , yes it will be interesting
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-21, 09:27 AM
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-dally-m-coach-of-the-year-betting-sting-police-raid-sydney-homes/news-story/e79e651615166078f2aa07a4f225cc56

"Search warrants were conducted at two separate residences in Paddington and Waterloo and a business premises in Surry Hills"

That last one could be News Ltd couldn't it?

Didn't they find Phil Rothfield's account being used by Eddie Hayson to place bets.

Funny how Rothfield never got into any trouble over that. Wonder if the ATO chased it up. Probably not. One law for journalists and another for the rest of us.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-21, 10:39 PM

"Search warrants were conducted at two separate residences in Paddington and Waterloo and a business premises in Surry Hills"

That last one could be News Ltd couldn't it?

Didn't they find Phil Rothfield's account being used by Eddie Hayson to place bets.

Funny how Rothfield never got into any trouble over that. Wonder if the ATO chased it up. Probably not. One law for journalists and another for the rest of us.



There were many rumours floating around Rothfield and Hanson, but the libel laws etc makes it very difficult to ascertain what is true or fiction.  Rothfield’s articles at times ruffled feathers but ias a journalist that is bound to happen so I took the stories with a grain of salt.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-21, 10:43 PM
McCullough is joining the Knights with Jake Brailey out for the season. If we can get Frizell released early to join us too, we will be in with a big chance for top 8.

With Ponga, Pierce, Klemmer, Barnett and some good kids coming through, best years will be next two if we get a couple more decent backs or 5/8th.

Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-22, 07:51 AM
That’s a bloody good replacement for the young kid. A Shame for him, he was playing well
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-24, 06:06 PM
There are persistent rumours that there will be a crowd for the final series with social distancing. Not sure how that will work with crowds etc but it will depend on how clubs and pubs go first.

It will be interesting to see the maximum crowd figures and ticket prices especially if it will be for general public or members only to encourage membership.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-24, 06:25 PM
Only 4 more sleeps :excited: :excited: :excited:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-24, 08:41 PM
Only 4 more sleeps :excited: :excited: :excited:

I am like that too.

Let’s get some predictions in.

My top 8 in no particular order.

Newcastle
Roosters
Canberra
Melbourne
Parramatta
Broncos
Penrith
Manly

Wooden Spoon

Titans
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-26, 05:10 PM
Another little 'speedbump' . .

The sooner the season starts the better . .

Idle hands  . . etc
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-28, 07:30 AM
Today is the day when sports really starts again. It would not be NRL without the scandals during the break. It just whets the appetite for NRL. Most of the scandals without condoning it would not have happened without Covid19 distancing except for the Walker and Xerri cases.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-28, 11:39 AM

https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-police-charge-two-over-alleged-nrl-dally-m-medal-awards-betting-fraud/ar-BB14GINu?OCID=ansmsnnews11
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-28, 12:03 PM
My old  granddaddy once told me  “Don’t bet on anything with only two legs”.


Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-28, 01:46 PM
Two men charged over Dally M Coach of the Year betting scandal

Two men responsible for the integrity of the voting system for the NRL’s Dally M Awards are accused of using their own betting accounts to place fraudulent bets, using their inside knowledge of the Coach of the Year winner.

Joshua Wilson, 29, and Ben Trevisol, 31 – the owner and general manager of data firm Stat Edge — were each charged by police this morning with two offences, the most serious of which carries up to 10 years jail if convicted.

Stat Edge is the company Dally M judges used to submit their votes in secret ahead of the October 2 awards ceremony at the Hordern Pavilion.

Police will allege Wilson and Trevisol exchanged texts about how much they were going to wager on Melbourne Storm coach Craig Bellamy after realising he had garnered the most votes from judges.

Police then allege they used betting accounts in their own names to bet on Bellamy.

But betting agencies raised concerns to the NRL Integrity Unit when the betting plunge arrived late on Bellamy, who was not the favourite win. His price as winner went from around $7 to $3.

It was then the organised crime squad was notified and established Strike Force Mirrabei, which raided Wilson’s home at Paddington and Trevisol’s unit in Waterloo last week.

This morning they handed the pair Court Attendance Notices for charges of use inside information to bet on event and possess inside information communicate to other to bet on event.

Police are now trying to see how far the alleged leak from Wilson and Trevisol has travelled. They are investigating whether the largest bets placed in the sting may have come from others who got the tip about Bellamy.

“I can say though, there were some bets as large as $10,000 placed on the outcome of the coach’s award,” Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said.

“The investigation will now will focus on the individuals who may have benefited from the betting plunge that occurred.”

They have not ruled out making further arrests.

Bellamy was always in the frame for the coach of the year award given Melbourne topped the ladder in the regular NRL season, however Canberra’s Ricky Stuart and Parramatta’s Brad Arthur had also been considered possible winners given they had dramatically changed their team’s fortunes since the 2018 season.

The men are expected to front Downing Centre Local Court on August 20.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/two-men-charged-over-dally-m-coach-of-the-year-betting-scandal/



Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-28, 01:49 PM
It beggars belief that the NRL would use a company run by a 29 year old and a 31 year old that no-one has heard of to handle the Dally M votes.

But even more stupid is the fact they used a company called "Stat Edge". Anyone who knows anything would know this refers to risk, and from there it is a fine line to gambling.

I wouldn't trust these guys to feed my fish when i'm away, let alone handle the secrecy of a major sporting award

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/65070040a2a30c985b7637aad0e975f5?width=316)

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/5b83085c8b24690429a421742064edef?width=316)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-28, 01:52 PM
..and that is before we get on to the utter lack of intelligence shown by betting in your own name not suspecting for a moment that the bookies would be straight on to you.

They probably don't even know the difference between the Tote and Fixed Odds.

And somehow they got the contract for keeping the Dally M votes secret  :what:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-May-28, 02:52 PM
Have you watched the movie War Dogs PP? It sort of shows how stuff like this gets through.

I hope they get a 50% loading on top of any sentence purely for the stupidity of using their own accounts.  :shutup:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-28, 05:04 PM
The oldies here may remember but when I was a young lad there was a huge plunge on a Rothmans Medal winner in the 90s. It was with the NT operators too.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-28, 05:15 PM
Footy time :excited: :excited: :excited: :boxing: :bounce: :bdn: :bdn:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-May-28, 05:24 PM
.They probably don't even know the difference between the Tote and Fixed Odds.

Yes . . It might have been 50/ 50 about them taking tote-odds had the option been available

Fancy supposed IT security gurus not knowing how the system works . .

Even racetrack stewards have got a rough idea
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-28, 07:56 PM
Footy time :excited: :excited: :excited: :boxing: :bounce: :bdn: :bdn:

I am officially refusing to follow the 2020 NRL comp in protest.

How can you possibly have a fair comp with three teams starting the comp on -4 points.

They may as well let Canberra have 12 tackles every set - after all that is what they wanted to win the 2019 flag. Let 'em have it. It'll shut Ricky up.

Joke comp.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Maximus on 2020-May-28, 08:51 PM
It beggars belief that the NRL would use a company run by a 29 year old and a 31 year old that no-one has heard of to handle the Dally M votes.

The 29 year old was also the "CEO" of a super fund. Says it all.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-28, 09:06 PM
I am officially refusing to follow the 2020 NRL comp in protest.

How can you possibly have a fair comp with three teams starting the comp on -4 points.

They may as well let Canberra have 12 tackles every set - after all that is what they wanted to win the 2019 flag. Let 'em have it. It'll shut Ricky up.

Joke comp.

Put the toys back in the cot mate   :lol:  
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-28, 09:58 PM
Didn't I read they were to put in a ban on spitting?
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-29, 03:18 AM
It's official.

I am boycotting the 2020 NRL Competition because of the treatment of indigenous Australians, and because Easts are starting at -4.

(Marlon Brando eat your heart out)

Because I've added some virtue signalling in there, no-one can argue with me  :angel:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-29, 03:23 AM
The 29 year old was also the "CEO" of a super fund. Says it all.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:

I know at the Oscars they use KPMG or someone like that.

But the NRL? They use "Bill and Ted's Excellent Auditing Company".

Obviously cheap.

Some of the maths about NRL spending pre V'Landys has revealed a lot of black holes. You wonder if there are some more revelations to come about where the money has gone over the past few years. There seems to be a hell of a lot of people on $300k p.a. for doing very little.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-29, 03:43 AM
Yes . . It might have been 50/ 50 about them taking tote-odds had the option been available

Fancy supposed IT security gurus not knowing how the system works . .

Even racetrack stewards have got a rough idea

I'd reckon the vast majority wouldn't know Arthur. Anyone who is a once a year punter would have little reason to know.

Was having a bet at the Port Macquarie Hotel late one night - nothing else to do late at night - and there was one other bloke there having a bet.

He started fist pumping after one of those weird French Trotting races where the start seems to be a free for all and they disqualify a horse if it gallops and all the horses start with the same letter (love those races).

I said to him "you had a win mate" and he showed me a quinella ticket for $50 on the correct combination. Without saying anything I went to check on the pool size and by the time I saw it was around $60 he had got the bad news about the dividend.

I then gave him a quick course in Totalizators and how they work with the advice "stick to win and place if you are having those sorts of bets on these races".

But even then I don't think he got it.  :shrug:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-May-29, 07:41 AM
Was it a Peter Mair :chin:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-May-29, 11:52 PM
3 games so far and the quality has been lacking at times but expected after such a gap.

The more I look at Tedesco and Moses play, the more you wonder how badly did the Tigers blow a dynasty when they had Tedesco, Moses, Brooks and Woods in the same side but could only resign Brooks.

The crowd noise is crap at times as I do like to hear the raw plays especially the big clashes. The crowd noise simulation does not match the plays at times so it is sometimes like watching a sitcom with pre recorded laughter at inappropriate moments.

I don’t mind the tackle recount instead of play the ball penalties but I don’t there is consistency. The one referee does make the game faster so the big man mountains will find it harder down the track to keep up so mobility will be the key.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-30, 11:24 AM
Was it a Peter Mair :chin:

  :lol:   :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-May-30, 11:28 AM
I'd reckon the vast majority wouldn't know Arthur

When I first read the above post I thought PP meant "I'd reckon the vast majority wouldn't know Arthur from Martha"

But then I saw to whom he was responding.   :embarrassed: :embarrassed: 
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-May-30, 05:14 PM
When I first read the above post I thought PP meant "I'd reckon the vast majority wouldn't know Arthur from Martha"

But then I saw to whom he was responding.   :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

Everyone knows Arthur   :biggrin:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jun-03, 06:24 PM
Funny how the penalties differ according to which club you play for. Radley pulls off a spear tackle and gets let off and old Hargreaves does his usual raised arm to the head of a tackler and doesn’t even get charged  :lol:

Uncle Nick must have filled up his paper bag  :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Jun-03, 06:46 PM
https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/nsw-police-charge-two-over-alleged-nrl-dally-m-medal-awards-betting-fraud/ar-BB14GINu?OCID=ansmsnnews11

The plot thickens. Fletcher and Kent allegedly backed Bellamy to win too

https://www.watoday.com.au/sport/nrl/sports-commentators-bets-emerge-in-dally-m-probe-20200603-p54z67.html
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: arthur on 2020-Jun-03, 07:46 PM
 . .
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jun-03, 09:36 PM
Funny how the penalties differ according to which club you play for. Radley pulls off a spear tackle and gets let off and old Hargreaves does his usual raised arm to the head of a tackler and doesn’t even get charged  :lol:

Uncle Nick must have filled up his paper bag  :lol:

Similar to Uncle Russ getting Latrell Mitchell 0 weeks suspension (Cleary got two for the same thing) and having his $50,000 fine reduced to $20,000  ;)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jun-04, 08:21 AM
PP, Cleary got more because he lied about it
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jun-04, 08:46 AM
PP, Cleary got more because he lied about it

Wasn't Latrell's first reaction (or his manager's first reaction) to say that it was some sort of indigenous camp?
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jun-04, 07:47 PM
Not that I’m aware of
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Peter Mair on 2020-Jun-04, 09:21 PM


A wily-watered plant?

........ how can a 'wily' be presented as knowing everything about everything..............  most of what 'he' is purported to paste is just provocative nonsense.........and that marks him a a fictional figment deployed to prop up a failing forum.

.... dirty pool.

 
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jun-04, 10:01 PM
Want to be more direct in what you are asserting?
Actually, don’t bother, I know you don’t  have the balls  :lol:
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Jun-07, 10:43 PM
After today, I think my beloved knights have a good top 8 chance.

The next 6 games against Storm, Broncos, Cowboys, Sea Eagles, Eels and Rabbits will be a good guide to see how good we really are.

Ponga and Best look superb at times while Klemmer and Safiti are really looking strong in the front and most importantly consistently too.

I still we lack one more classy back and forward to be a genuine title contender.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2020-Jun-10, 02:23 PM
For St George supporters:

Brisbane Race 9 #10 Rossmay - colours White with Red cross

(https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/03/20/02/4A5C406A00000578-5521059-image-a-12_1521514220806.jpg)
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jun-10, 03:36 PM
I’ve actually backed  it cuz I like it :thumbsup:
Took the $21 this morning
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Jeunes on 2020-Jun-15, 07:53 PM
Once the Roosters with their magical salary cap hit form, everyone knew they will be very hard  to beat in the competition.

The only thing that will deprive the Roosters this year other than a miracle victory would be injuries or any future rotational system that may disrupt

However even that will not stop them with their depth. Tedesco, Tupou, Morris x 2, Manu, Keary, Radley, Creighton, Cordner, Friend, Warea Hargreaves etc have replacements too.

It is brilliant squad and I have not seen the depth like this since the Broncos in the 90s.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2020-Jul-10, 10:18 PM
Has anyone seen any stats on the Captain's Challenge.?

How many made, how may successful, that sorta thing.
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: wily ole dog on 2020-Jul-11, 09:00 AM
There are certainly some brain dead ones that’s for sure
Title: NRL 2020
Post by: Gintara on 2020-Jul-11, 02:04 PM
Unless it's an absolute howler you'll rarely get one overturned as the bunker always sides with the original decision.

Is there anything you can't challenge?

Saw something in the Eels game a few weeks ago which was a shocking play the ball - sideways, stepped over it, bounced off his foot yet was allow to play one  :shrug: