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Offline wily ole dog

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« 2020-May-20, 07:25 PM Reply #100 »
What’s happened?

Offline PoisonPen7

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« 2020-May-20, 08:16 PM Reply #101 »
What’s happened?


Cody Walker was involved in a street brawl in Casino. There is film of him kicking someone. The police have said there has been no complaint so they will not do anything.

Expect the NRL to follow suit. He will get off scot free.

Mitchell Pearce when he played for Easts in 2015 got 9 weeks for just being drunk in someone's unit. Filmed by someone hiding in a closet. sold to Channel 9 for $250k.

Funny how the penalties differ according to which club you play for  emthdown


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« 2020-May-21, 08:06 AM Reply #103 »
Thanks Arthur
It will be interesting to see how it plays out

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« 2020-May-21, 09:22 AM Reply #104 »
There have been lots of similar cases in the past . . and will be into the future

A great reminder about betting on anything that can talk
 
Perhaps with forensic examination of computers the original leak may be determined and proven . . but if the defence of 'following the money' is used, I don't see any recourse, unless Corps have 'fine print' to cover such cases . .

But , yes it will be interesting

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« 2020-May-21, 09:27 AM Reply #105 »
https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-dally-m-coach-of-the-year-betting-sting-police-raid-sydney-homes/news-story/e79e651615166078f2aa07a4f225cc56

"Search warrants were conducted at two separate residences in Paddington and Waterloo and a business premises in Surry Hills"


That last one could be News Ltd couldn't it?

Didn't they find Phil Rothfield's account being used by Eddie Hayson to place bets.

Funny how Rothfield never got into any trouble over that. Wonder if the ATO chased it up. Probably not. One law for journalists and another for the rest of us.


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« 2020-May-21, 10:39 PM Reply #106 »

"Search warrants were conducted at two separate residences in Paddington and Waterloo and a business premises in Surry Hills"


That last one could be News Ltd couldn't it?

Didn't they find Phil Rothfield's account being used by Eddie Hayson to place bets.

Funny how Rothfield never got into any trouble over that. Wonder if the ATO chased it up. Probably not. One law for journalists and another for the rest of us.



There were many rumours floating around Rothfield and Hanson, but the libel laws etc makes it very difficult to ascertain what is true or fiction.  Rothfield’s articles at times ruffled feathers but ias a journalist that is bound to happen so I took the stories with a grain of salt.

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« 2020-May-21, 10:43 PM Reply #107 »
McCullough is joining the Knights with Jake Brailey out for the season. If we can get Frizell released early to join us too, we will be in with a big chance for top 8.

With Ponga, Pierce, Klemmer, Barnett and some good kids coming through, best years will be next two if we get a couple more decent backs or 5/8th.


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« 2020-May-22, 07:51 AM Reply #108 »
That’s a bloody good replacement for the young kid. A Shame for him, he was playing well

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« 2020-May-24, 06:06 PM Reply #109 »
There are persistent rumours that there will be a crowd for the final series with social distancing. Not sure how that will work with crowds etc but it will depend on how clubs and pubs go first.

It will be interesting to see the maximum crowd figures and ticket prices especially if it will be for general public or members only to encourage membership.

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« 2020-May-24, 06:25 PM Reply #110 »
Only 4 more sleeps :excited: :excited: :excited:

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« 2020-May-24, 08:41 PM Reply #111 »
Only 4 more sleeps :excited: :excited: :excited:

I am like that too.

Let’s get some predictions in.

My top 8 in no particular order.

Newcastle
Roosters
Canberra
Melbourne
Parramatta
Broncos
Penrith
Manly

Wooden Spoon

Titans

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« 2020-May-26, 05:10 PM Reply #112 »
Another little 'speedbump' . .

The sooner the season starts the better . .

Idle hands  . . etc

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« 2020-May-28, 07:30 AM Reply #113 »
Today is the day when sports really starts again. It would not be NRL without the scandals during the break. It just whets the appetite for NRL. Most of the scandals without condoning it would not have happened without Covid19 distancing except for the Walker and Xerri cases.


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« 2020-May-28, 12:03 PM Reply #115 »
My old  granddaddy once told me  “Don’t bet on anything with only two legs”.



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« 2020-May-28, 01:46 PM Reply #116 »
Two men charged over Dally M Coach of the Year betting scandal

Two men responsible for the integrity of the voting system for the NRL’s Dally M Awards are accused of using their own betting accounts to place fraudulent bets, using their inside knowledge of the Coach of the Year winner.

Joshua Wilson, 29, and Ben Trevisol, 31 – the owner and general manager of data firm Stat Edge — were each charged by police this morning with two offences, the most serious of which carries up to 10 years jail if convicted.

Stat Edge is the company Dally M judges used to submit their votes in secret ahead of the October 2 awards ceremony at the Hordern Pavilion.

Police will allege Wilson and Trevisol exchanged texts about how much they were going to wager on Melbourne Storm coach Craig Bellamy after realising he had garnered the most votes from judges.

Police then allege they used betting accounts in their own names to bet on Bellamy.

But betting agencies raised concerns to the NRL Integrity Unit when the betting plunge arrived late on Bellamy, who was not the favourite win. His price as winner went from around $7 to $3.

It was then the organised crime squad was notified and established Strike Force Mirrabei, which raided Wilson’s home at Paddington and Trevisol’s unit in Waterloo last week.

This morning they handed the pair Court Attendance Notices for charges of use inside information to bet on event and possess inside information communicate to other to bet on event.

Police are now trying to see how far the alleged leak from Wilson and Trevisol has travelled. They are investigating whether the largest bets placed in the sting may have come from others who got the tip about Bellamy.

“I can say though, there were some bets as large as $10,000 placed on the outcome of the coach’s award,” Assistant Commissioner Stuart Smith said.

“The investigation will now will focus on the individuals who may have benefited from the betting plunge that occurred.”

They have not ruled out making further arrests.

Bellamy was always in the frame for the coach of the year award given Melbourne topped the ladder in the regular NRL season, however Canberra’s Ricky Stuart and Parramatta’s Brad Arthur had also been considered possible winners given they had dramatically changed their team’s fortunes since the 2018 season.

The men are expected to front Downing Centre Local Court on August 20.


https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/two-men-charged-over-dally-m-coach-of-the-year-betting-scandal/




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« 2020-May-28, 01:49 PM Reply #117 »
It beggars belief that the NRL would use a company run by a 29 year old and a 31 year old that no-one has heard of to handle the Dally M votes.

But even more stupid is the fact they used a company called "Stat Edge". Anyone who knows anything would know this refers to risk, and from there it is a fine line to gambling.

I wouldn't trust these guys to feed my fish when i'm away, let alone handle the secrecy of a major sporting award




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« 2020-May-28, 01:52 PM Reply #118 »
..and that is before we get on to the utter lack of intelligence shown by betting in your own name not suspecting for a moment that the bookies would be straight on to you.

They probably don't even know the difference between the Tote and Fixed Odds.

And somehow they got the contract for keeping the Dally M votes secret  :what:

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« 2020-May-28, 02:52 PM Reply #119 »
Have you watched the movie War Dogs PP? It sort of shows how stuff like this gets through.

I hope they get a 50% loading on top of any sentence purely for the stupidity of using their own accounts.  :shutup:

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« 2020-May-28, 05:04 PM Reply #120 »
The oldies here may remember but when I was a young lad there was a huge plunge on a Rothmans Medal winner in the 90s. It was with the NT operators too.

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« 2020-May-28, 05:15 PM Reply #121 »
Footy time :excited: :excited: :excited: :boxing: :bounce: :bdn: :bdn:

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« 2020-May-28, 05:24 PM Reply #122 »
.They probably don't even know the difference between the Tote and Fixed Odds.

Yes . . It might have been 50/ 50 about them taking tote-odds had the option been available

Fancy supposed IT security gurus not knowing how the system works . .

Even racetrack stewards have got a rough idea

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« 2020-May-28, 07:56 PM Reply #123 »
Footy time :excited: :excited: :excited: :boxing: :bounce: :bdn: :bdn:

I am officially refusing to follow the 2020 NRL comp in protest.

How can you possibly have a fair comp with three teams starting the comp on -4 points.

They may as well let Canberra have 12 tackles every set - after all that is what they wanted to win the 2019 flag. Let 'em have it. It'll shut Ricky up.

Joke comp.

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« 2020-May-28, 08:51 PM Reply #124 »
It beggars belief that the NRL would use a company run by a 29 year old and a 31 year old that no-one has heard of to handle the Dally M votes.

The 29 year old was also the "CEO" of a super fund. Says it all.   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:


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