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Offline Maximus

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:17 PM Reply #300 »
Listening to Gould's comments during the Grand Final ( shown exclusively on 9) reminds me why I watch League on Fox.

Same here - Gus did come across pretty poorly.

Thought I read somewhere that Greg Alexander doesn't commentate on Panthers games, maybe its time for all commentators with conflicts of interest to do the same.

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:23 PM Reply #301 »
Andrew Voss is a mad Souths supporter.

Perhaps he should not call Souths games  :bulb:

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:27 PM Reply #302 »
Listening to Gould's comments during the Grand Final ( shown exclusively on 9) reminds me why I watch League on Fox.
That is interesting, I live in Melbourne and only get to see NRL on Sky , and was not aware of the commentators on C9, then it was pointed out one of the commentators was Phil Gould, the general manager of Penrith, any wonder I thought in the early part of the game it was a biased commentary. Why would C9 put a person ,who is an administrator of a competing team, as a commentator of a GF

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:41 PM Reply #303 »
That is interesting, I live in Melbourne and only get to see NRL on Sky , and was not aware of the commentators on C9, then it was pointed out one of the commentators was Phil Gould, the general manager of Penrith, any wonder I thought in the early part of the game it was a biased commentary. Why would C9 put a person ,who is an administrator of a competing team, as a commentator of a GF

Ex-GM Bubba, he left them last year. He has been involved with several clubs over the years as a player and coach, then most recently as an administrator with the Panthers. Think he has some sort of role with the NZ Warriors going forward.

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:42 PM Reply #304 »
Andrew Voss is a mad Souths supporter.

Perhaps he should not call Souths games  :bulb:

Old wives tale, consistently denied by the man himself.

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« 2020-Oct-25, 10:54 PM Reply #305 »
That is interesting, I live in Melbourne and only get to see NRL on Sky , and was not aware of the commentators on C9, then it was pointed out one of the commentators was Phil Gould, the general manager of Penrith, any wonder I thought in the early part of the game it was a biased commentary. Why would C9 put a person ,who is an administrator of a competing team, as a commentator of a GF

Reminds me of a certain Collingwood President but Gus is an ex now.  :chin:

In Gusís defence, he is at times insightful when Panthers are not playing. Even Vílandys likes him.

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« 2020-Oct-25, 11:01 PM Reply #306 »
I was at the game with my son and we were sitting with Panthers fans and to be blunt one eyed was an understatement on their part. However I do agree with them most of the early calls including non calling of restarts went against the Panthers.

In the 2nd half, you expect a square up and it did happen with the shepherd kick by Yeo for Toío. The sin bins were a joke as result was foregone.

The highlight of the game was the Papenhausen try. We were around the 35-40m line and just in awe as he glided away.

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« 2020-Oct-26, 06:43 AM Reply #307 »
The grand final is just a perfect example of why Rugby League is such an insular game with little appeal to anyone who has not 'grown up with it'

The television "expert" Gus, seemingly interpreting the rules differently to the ones written in the rule book, and very vocal about it.
Who would want to be a League referee when the rules of your game can be seen to be open to so much dispute.
It's all very well to try to have a game with limited penalties but it just gives coaches avenues to 'bend the rules"......and so they will and do.

I'm a Rugby Union man for that reason and quite frankly thought the AFL Grand Final was a better spectacle! :o

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« 2020-Oct-26, 07:42 AM Reply #308 »
Unsurprising Melbourne had all the rub of the green early which put the game beyond doubt, it was semantics after that.  :bulb: I've never seen a team be so lucky with the bounce of the ball for so long  :dry:

Cummins had a terrible game with some bewildering calls, not helped by the ineptitude in the bunker. Doesn't help when his competition to ref the GF was Ashley Klein  :wacko:



The highlight of the game was the Papenhausen try. We were around the 35-40m line and just in awe as he glided away.

Not many have the speed to get around the outside like that  :o  :clap2:


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« 2020-Oct-26, 08:13 AM Reply #309 »
Even Vílandys likes him.

No surprises there Jeunes, Gus was a vocal supporter of PVL when I last listened to his podcast early in the year. Presumably still is.

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« 2020-Oct-26, 08:13 AM Reply #310 »
hmmmm,

Larry Corowa could run around anyone....

might be showing my age

Fours

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« 2020-Oct-26, 08:16 AM Reply #311 »
My beef about Gould is not whether he is biased or not but that he is such a know-it-all blow-hard.

He wants the game played to the rules as he would like them (as Nem suggests). And he wants them ignored when he wants them ignored

There was one time he said something to Ray Warren along these lines  ÷h, it's all about the rule book with you Rabs., isn't?

"Yes, it is Gould" I yelled on Warren's behalf. 

I can't stand Roach on Fox but, on balance , I prefer him to Gould on 9.

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« 2020-Oct-26, 08:25 AM Reply #312 »
Yeah, I stopped watching it on 9 this year - after last night quite happy with that decision.

Recall they used to whinge about the referee checking with the bunker, because the fans wanted to cheer the try there and then. Bugger if it was actually a try or not.  :embarrassed:

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« 2020-Oct-26, 04:46 PM Reply #313 »


He wants the game played to the rules as he would like them (as Nem suggests). And he wants them ignored when he wants them ignored



You're right JWH, he picks and chooses when to ignore them. That said he was right last night, that was a howler from the bunker, just thankfully Penrith were so far behind it didn't matter.


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« 2020-Oct-26, 05:17 PM Reply #314 »
PREMIERSHIPS TOTALS SINCE 1908

1. SOUTH SYDNEY 21

2. ST GEORGE 15

3. Balmain 11

4. Eastern Suburbs 9

5. MANLY-WARRINGAH  8

6. CANTERBURY-BANKSTOWN 6
6.  BRISBANE 6

7.  MELBOURNE 4
7. PARRAMATTA 4
7. WESTERN SUBURBS 4

8. SYDNEY ROOSTERS 4

9. CANBERRA 3
9.  NEWTOWN 3

10. NEWCASTLE 2
10. PENRITH 2
10. NORTH SYDNEY 2
10. Sydney City 2

11. CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND 1
11. SYDNEY BULLDOGS 1
11. BULLDOGS 1
11. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA 1
11. NORTH QUEENSLAND 1
11. WESTS TIGERS 1

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« 2020-Oct-26, 06:18 PM Reply #315 »
PREMIERSHIPS TOTALS SINCE 1908

1. SOUTH SYDNEY 21
2. ST GEORGE 15
3. Balmain 11
4. Eastern Suburbs 9
5. MANLY-WARRINGAH  8
6. CANTERBURY-BANKSTOWN 6
6.  BRISBANE 6
7.  MELBOURNE 4
7. PARRAMATTA 4
7. WESTERN SUBURBS 4

8. SYDNEY ROOSTERS 4

9. CANBERRA 3
9.  NEWTOWN 3

10. NEWCASTLE 2
10. PENRITH 2
10. NORTH SYDNEY 2
10. Sydney City 2

11. CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND 1
11. SYDNEY BULLDOGS 1
11. BULLDOGS 1
11. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA 1
11. NORTH QUEENSLAND 1
11. WESTS TIGERS 1

PREMIERSHIPS TOTALS SINCE 1908

1. SOUTH SYDNEY 21
=2 Roosters 15
=2 ST GEORGE 15
3. Balmain 11
4. Eastern Suburbs 9
5. MANLY-WARRINGAH  8
6. CANTERBURY-BANKSTOWN 6
6.  BRISBANE 6
7.  MELBOURNE 4
7. PARRAMATTA 4
7. WESTERN SUBURBS 4
9. CANBERRA 3
9.  NEWTOWN 3

10. NEWCASTLE 2
10. PENRITH 2
10. NORTH SYDNEY 2
11. CRONULLA-SUTHERLAND 1
11. SYDNEY BULLDOGS 1
11. BULLDOGS 1
11. ST GEORGE ILLAWARRA 1
11. NORTH QUEENSLAND 1
11. WESTS TIGERS 1


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« 2020-Oct-26, 07:21 PM Reply #316 »
You're right JWH, he picks and chooses when to ignore them. That said he was right last night, that was a howler from the bunker, just thankfully Penrith were so far behind it didn't matter.

From memory it was Johns who led the complaint about that bunker decision and Gould chimed in to support him

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« 2020-Nov-21, 09:16 AM Reply #317 »
Will the history be rewritten? Give them the premierships and make the total premiership race more fun. The extra two will make them equal to the broncos and only two behind the dogs and  Manly.

On a more serious note, after the Dogs salary cap fiasco in early 2000s, the standards were set and Storm breached them. On a flip side, I am surprised that more premiership clubs were not scrutinised for having players below market value when they won titles.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-news-melbourne-storm-salary-cap/c469a7c3-f742-43be-98d9-75ee1426ad7f

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« 2020-Nov-21, 12:53 PM Reply #318 »
Gallop was as weak as piss in his handling of it.
Is there a reason the players that were incriminated in the rort, not named?

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« 2020-Nov-21, 02:25 PM Reply #319 »
Gallop was as weak as piss in his handling of it.
Is there a reason the players that were incriminated in the rort, not named?

There was a lot of politics with it due to the fact that Storm was owned by News Corp.

There were also innocent and guilty players too. But one of the biggest rumours going around at the time was the role of player agents. If players were named and shamed etc, there was a risk that some player agents would have blown the whistle on other clubs and the havoc it would cause.

There was a story about deferred payments and Cam Smith today because NRL banned them. However the NRL still allows back handed contracts with players getting low contracts at the start and then getting more at the end with the hope of salary cap total rising.

Most of the big teams still do this and if the NRL stopped it, by giving notional value with a 20% differential cap, game will be fairer. This will stop some clubs getting away with a few other things to fit superstars under their cap too.
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