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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:15 AM Reply #275 »
Gutherson was trying to kick the ball its not that hard to see that.

I have questions on whether Parra's centre would have held onto the ball even if he wasnt tackled :) but it was definitely a penalty try.

Radley's try couldnt be allowed because you had the other player tackling him as he went to get the ball so the doubt comes into it, where as the parra try had no defenders in sight.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:18 AM Reply #276 »
There's a difference between dropping the ball and kicking it as opposed to a drop kick - that was how it was ruled. He was in the act of kicking would you not agree & he certainly didn't drop it?

If you believe that an unimpeded run to the line from 5 metres out with the only defender having overshot the mark isn't grounds then you'd never award one, laws of probability are strongly in his favour, remember the rule states 'in the opinion' of the referee  :bulb:

As for the lead runner, it doesn't matter whether he got there or not, he was impeded! This changed the whole structure of the defence, he got there later etc.  All year this is ruled obstruction - you have to run through the line.

If we allow that you'll have runners bumping into defenders left, right and centre.  :stop:


The concern for Parra was that they kept conceding penalties when they had the Knights under pressure and then their defense folded very quickly each time the knights got into Parra's half.

Can they fix the defense in a week? it was positive to see the 6 and 7 running the ball rather than constantly turn the ball back inside to a forward.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:21 AM Reply #277 »
And while i remember the Knights need to do some serious explaining on why their forward was allowed to keep playing when he was obviously concussed.

Also the time the knights had to recover when injuries arose was ridiculous, it stopped all of Parra's momentum.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:32 AM Reply #278 »
And while i remember the Knights need to do some serious explaining on why their forward was allowed to keep playing when he was obviously concussed.

Also the time the knights had to recover when injuries arose was ridiculous, it stopped all of Parra's momentum.

I hope the knights get fined over the Frizzell issue. It was a joke that he was not taken straight off. I donít understand why the NRL donít have an independent trainer every game to assess straight away rather than wait for the doctor to review after a few mins.

There was another incident when Parra hooker was held up by a knights player when he was staggering around. It is a joke as key players stay on while lessor names end up failing HIA.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:39 AM Reply #279 »

The concern for Parra was that they kept conceding penalties when they had the Knights under pressure and then their defense folded very quickly each time the knights got into Parra's half.

Can they fix the defense in a week? it was positive to see the 6 and 7 running the ball rather than constantly turn the ball back inside to a forward.

Parra were lucky that we have a crap half in Pearce. He missed many tackles and did nothing of note all game.

Clifford is getting to be a handy buy. Klemmer and Mann need to improve or be shipped off.

Knights will make the top 8 but our biggest issue is the lack of attack at times. We have only scored over 23 points in 6 games this year. The forwards are strong but we just lack class in the backs like the top sides. Take Ponga out and you donít have much at all as Best needs space but lacks pace compared to the best.

Parra made a bold choice in not having Matterson. That was interesting as I would have Matterson over some of the bench forwards. Dylan Brown will the key this weekend. If he runs and passes, Parra could pull off an upset.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 12:24 PM Reply #280 »
Ponga should have been binned.

When he jumped up on the other players and went over the top and nearly landed on his head he lifted himself above the horizontal and put himself into a dangerous position.

A sin bin call every day of the week.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 12:54 PM Reply #281 »
Ponga should have been binned.

When he jumped up on the other players and went over the top and nearly landed on his head he lifted himself above the horizontal and put himself into a dangerous position.

A sin bin call every day of the week.

Should had a HIA.   :lol:

Nothing beats below though.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jyfYYk_3H5Q

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« 2021-Sep-14, 08:13 PM Reply #282 »
Big fall from grace for these two. If I was Wests or St George or even the knights I would make a play as they will be quite cheap.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/gold-coast-titans-make-big-call-on-milliondollar-duo/news-story/e2eb39e5ff8caecf1d11f20aa517cb3c

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« 2021-Sep-14, 09:20 PM Reply #283 »
Ponga should have been binned.

When he jumped up on the other players and went over the top and nearly landed on his head he lifted himself above the horizontal and put himself into a dangerous position.

A sin bin call every day of the week.

Some silly idiot will get hurt one day and then post try celebrations will be banned!   :lol:

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« 2021-Sep-14, 10:35 PM Reply #284 »

Even though the try favoured us, if they use this example constantly for rest of the series I have no issues for the future. The defence had a chance to reset and they came straight back at the same player and not the gap. That is why some tries have been overruled in the past due to the gap.



The trouble is that's not what they have done all year. You run into the defence it's been called back.  Why change now?  :dry:

The defence shouldn't have to 'reset' the onus is on the lead runner not to interfere.  :bulb:

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« 2021-Sep-14, 10:38 PM Reply #285 »

Parra made a bold choice in not having Matterson. That was interesting as I would have Matterson over some of the bench forwards. Dylan Brown will the key this weekend. If he runs and passes, Parra could pull off an upset.


I'd be surprised if Matterson doesn't start with Lane going back to the bench.

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« 2021-Sep-14, 10:42 PM Reply #286 »
I find Newcastle's use of Ponga strange, when you look at all the good fullbacks at the moment, Teddy, Tommy T, Lattrel, Pap, Gutho, Edwards they all play behind the ruck pushing up in support. Ponga doesn't do this but plays more as a link or similar to a 6, always sweeping left or right.

No doubting his ability and his passing is second to none, just wonder are they missing a trick as he doesn't seem to get his hands on the ball as much as you'd want  :chin:

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« 2021-Sep-14, 11:30 PM Reply #287 »
I find Newcastle's use of Ponga strange, when you look at all the good fullbacks at the moment, Teddy, Tommy T, Lattrel, Pap, Gutho, Edwards they all play behind the ruck pushing up in support. Ponga doesn't do this but plays more as a link or similar to a 6, always sweeping left or right.

No doubting his ability and his passing is second to none, just wonder are they missing a trick as he doesn't seem to get his hands on the ball as much as you'd want  :chin:

Absolutely agree and we have gone backwards this year. Yes we had injuries and off field scandals but most have not really improved. Some big names like Pearce, Klemmer and Mann would be struggling to play in the bench of the 6 teams left.

It will be interesting to see if Pearce leaves and if so Clifford should slot in as half with Ponga as 5/8th. The experiment might not work but it is the only chance we have of winning a comp as we wonít win one with Pearce.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 09:37 AM Reply #288 »
Big fall from grace for these two. If I was Wests or St George or even the knights I would make a play as they will be quite cheap.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/gold-coast-titans-make-big-call-on-milliondollar-duo/news-story/e2eb39e5ff8caecf1d11f20aa517cb3c

Not sure about Peachy, way too many dumb plays and errors  in him but thereís certainly a good footballer in Taylor with the  right coach  and support.
Very similar to Adam Reynolds and would slot in well with real 5/8ths like Cody Walker, Luia & Browne outside him

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« 2021-Sep-15, 10:48 AM Reply #289 »
Peachy would be a great pick up for anyone at the right price. He's probably pigeon holed a bit as a 14 but he's the perfect guy to have on the roster as he can cover multiple spots.

Taylor's good enough to hold down a starting 7 job, he just needs the right structure around him.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 11:36 AM Reply #290 »
I would trade Pearce for Taylor and Peachey plus have money left over.

Peachey is a good player but needs discipline while Taylor needs to be involved more and run the show.

There are other players coming off contract too who may head o/s but would prefer Australia while players life Dufty and Milford are on 1 year contract for 2022 only.

Out of the bottom 8, Dogs have the best recruitment for 2022 and Broncos / Sharks are probably the next best.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 02:13 PM Reply #291 »
You'd say the Dogs are the only ones with genuine upside - Burton, Addo Carr, Naden, Dufty, Vaughan, Pangai Jnr and Asiata make a decent nucleus

Reynolds may make a difference at the Broncos but one injury and they are where they are now  :shrug: Not sure Capewell adds too much

Hynes and Finucane will have a lot to shoulder at the Sharks.

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« 2021-Sep-15, 06:19 PM Reply #292 »
Out of all the top 8 sides, it will be interesting to see who drops out next year to make way for any other teams. My pick would be Titans and Knights unless they improve. 

Wests are the interesting team next year as they have money to spend but canít attract players. The cowboys and dragons have not recruited much as they hope their youngsters will come through.

Warriors will improve with Johnson as they got a great forward pack. Big things are expected from Sharks, Broncos and Dogs based on recruitment so non top 8 will not be entertained by fans.

Stuart could be in trouble if Raiders donít improve and make top 4-6 as he has been there since 2014 for 1 GF appearance.


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« 2021-Sep-15, 07:25 PM Reply #293 »
I'd  get rid of Easts

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« 2021-Sep-15, 07:31 PM Reply #294 »
Eastern Suburbs got rid of themselves years ago. Theyíre  now the Sydney Roosters and forever in our shadow
4 premiership to their name

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« 2021-Sep-15, 10:09 PM Reply #295 »
Out of all the top 8 sides, it will be interesting to see who drops out next year to make way for any other teams. My pick would be Titans and Knights unless they improve. 


There may be a juggle up in that 6th to 10th or so but I can't really see anyone improving to jump into the top 4 or 6, looks like a rerun of this year  :shrug:

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« 2021-Sep-16, 11:52 AM Reply #296 »
I'd  get rid of Easts

Eastern Suburbs got rid of themselves years ago. Theyíre  now the Sydney Roosters and forever in our shadow
4 premiership to their name

I thought we were rid of Souffs. Got Rupert to pull a few strings and they were gone.

Always thought that High Court was "unrepresentative swill" to use Keating's words  :no:

What were our Double Bay barristers thinking!!

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« 2021-Sep-16, 02:19 PM Reply #297 »
There may be a juggle up in that 6th to 10th or so but I can't really see anyone improving to jump into the top 4 or 6, looks like a rerun of this year  :shrug:

I agree and the interesting teams for me in the top 6 is Parramatta and Manly. Not much recruitment and what is acceptable next year for them. Souths without Reynolds and new coach will be fascinating to see.

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« 2021-Sep-16, 04:00 PM Reply #298 »
Interesting article below.

Klemmer, Pearce and Taylor jump out at overpaid. Quite suprised that only one hooker features in the list. I wonít mind Cook at his price compared to Pearce

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/top-20-highest-paid-nrl-players-in-the-finals/854720e2-209e-43fd-8fd1-2203670d4504

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« 2021-Sep-16, 04:31 PM Reply #299 »
I agree and the interesting teams for me in the top 6 is Parramatta and Manly. Not much recruitment and what is acceptable next year for them. Souths without Reynolds and new coach will be fascinating to see.

I agree it will be fascinating it given we have so many options throughout the whole squad I only see an upside as good as Reyno has been this year


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