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« 2016-Dec-17, 01:13 PM Reply #1 »

John Grant to stay ARL Commission chairman but millions of questions remain

Paul Kent, The Daily Telegraph

ONLY rugby league’s ability to not get the job done could have saved ARL Commission chairman John Grant from being sacked ... for not getting the job done.

Let’s go back four seasons when the Commission, still fresh and filled with good intent, announced its whole-of-game strategy.

Six pillars would drive the game and included in that was a centralisation of rugby league. By bringing the NSW and Queensland Rugby Leagues under the stewardship of the NRL it would save the game $8 million a year and everybody was glad.

It not only did not happen, both organisations have got bigger and are expanding.

The NSWRL announced in June it would build a $20m centre of excellence, even though clubs are considered responsible for elite development. The QRL has eight full-time social media staff in a terrific show of how to waste money.

They grow and spend, even though the game was broke three weeks ago.

Not anymore, apparently.

Immediately after the now infamous walkout meeting last month, all 16 clubs and the NSWRL and QRL met and agreed Grant’s position was untenable. Grant told them Todd Greenberg’s advice was the game could not afford to fund them the $13 million, a figure where the NRL chief executive “staked his career” on being right but which as since been overturned.

Within days, though, Newcastle and Gold Coast had voted to support Grant and so, too, had the QRL.

The Knights and Titans did so because they are owned and funded by the NRL. Nobody knows why Queensland did.

Yet they became crucial in saving Grant.

Watching Grant lose the public war, I called him last week for an interview. It would not be a “why won’t you step down” interview but “tell us why you are doing a good job”, given he was losing the PR war with the clubs.

Still, there were hard answers demanded.

Grant agreed but asked for it to be put off until Monday. Come Monday, he needed 48 hours.

He was lobbying the clubs, knowing he needed two to flip to save his job.

The clubs made three demands: they wanted the 130 per cent grant back on the table, they wanted two representatives on the Commission and they wanted Grant gone.

Their real target was Greenberg but constitutionally they could chase only the chairman.

So Grant worked the QRL and, through them, got Brisbane and North Queensland to flip.

It will be announced on Tuesday the clubs have voted “unanimously” — given the war is lost — that the vote to oust Grant is over, that the clubs will get their $13m a year funding and two seats will be made available on the Commission. Grant will leave in 12 months, down on the five years he initially preferred but better than being sacked on Tuesday.

As one club boss said: “If this was on the table three weeks ago it would have been a terrific deal, but why did we have to go through three weeks of this to get it?”

Figures leaked to The Telegraph show the NRL has an annual $470m in broadcast revenue from 2018-2022.

Of that, $70m will go in sales costs. Another $220m a year will go to the 16 clubs ($13m each a year) and NSWRL and QRL ($6m each). Running the NRL competition and paying the 200-plus staff will cost $73m a year. Another $100m will be spent on grassroots, a 330 per cent increase on the $30m spent this year.

It leaves the NRL $7m to bank for future funding.

The NRL is still far from doing a satisfactory job. The Commission is gutless and invisible. They posted Grant, leaving him alone to face the wrath of the clubs, with not one coming to support him. They don’t seem to have the capacity to make the administration function properly, efficiently or make it achieve their own stated lofty goals.

In 2012 the NRL promised average crowds of 20,000 by 2017: Fail.

It promised year on year television ratings rise: Fail.

It promised 400,000 memberships: Fail.

It promised $200m in the bank for “key projects”: Fail.

Grant no longer needs an interview to state his case because he has lobbied the clubs and saved his job and fair enough, but the questions remain:

How can the NRL claim to be strapped for cash three weeks ago but now have money to fund the clubs at the upper end of what the wanted?

Where did it come from?

How much money does the NRL have in the bank? (Answer: $50m)

The $200m surplus for a future fund by 2017. Where did the money go?

When the NRL announced its television deal in 2012, you said: “The cash is useful in providing funding to grow our game from the grassroots to the elite level.” Yet last month you explained the funding withdrawal to clubs because: “We also understand the grassroots needs to be fed because this game is going backwards, slowly but determinately, in terms of grassroots participation.”

How did you get it so wrong?

What responsibility does the Commission take for this?

An extra $70m is about to be spent in to grassroots annually. Yet in August the man in charge of grassroots, Andrew Hill, the general manager of league integration and game development, quit and has not been replaced. How can a department with no boss make a decision on how the money should be spent?

How does the NRL justify a 330 per cent increase? How will this money be spent effectively?

You have told the clubs it will cost the NRL $80m for digital, another reason the game could not afford to fund the clubs what was promised. How did the NRL come up with that figure?

The NRL has traditionally been a content provider, why does it feel the need to produce content at a significant cost?

The clubs are unhappy with Todd Greenberg’s performance, your third CEO in the five years of the Commission, how do you and your Commission you rate his performance?

They are legitimate questions, all requiring consideration from the NRL and an explanation.

Not for the clubs, but for the fans, who entrusted their game to these people and yet suffer through black headlines and discover that, five years into new management, so many of the promises made have not added up to a hill of beans.

According to the NRL’s figures, by the end of 2022 the Commission after having been in place 11 years, would have received almost $3,000,000,000 in broadcast funding.

And have just $85,000,000 in the bank.

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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/john-grant-to-stay-arl-commission-chairman-but-millions-of-questions-remain/news-story/cc7986626124f8dcd580c9f0bd3368e9


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« 2016-Dec-30, 08:57 AM Reply #2 »
Kieran Foran's return not set in stone
By AAP

Kieran Foran's troubles look set to spill over into 2017 with his start date for the Warriors uncertain.

News Corp Australia reports that Foran is unlikely to make his debut for the Warriors against the Newcastle Knights in Auckland on March 5.

It is understood that the NRL integrity unit holds reservations about Foran fulfilling the commitments he was asked to meet before being cleared to play.

The troubled 26-year-old must prove he is fit to return to rugby league after he left the game earlier this year following a host of personal issues that saw him released by Parramatta.

Foran is also continuing his rehabilitation from a serious shoulder injury which has prevented him from training fully with his new teammates.

Chief executive Jim Doyle says it is all-but inevitable that Auckland-born Foran will play for the Warriors but the start date can't be guaranteed.

He said Foran and the Warriors were working diligently with the NRL and the player's personal well-being was improving steadily.

Read more at http://wwos.nine.com.au/2016/12/30/07/00/kieran-foran-s-return-not-set-in-stone#7cQQ6CvL53Y0pg4s.99






The joke of all this will be if the NRL allow him to play, what price they register hm for. Talk was the Warriors were putting him down as $600k which is a joke for a player worth conservatively $800k to 1mill a season.

The NRL set a prescience with Israel Folau  :shutup:

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« 2017-Jan-17, 08:41 PM Reply #3 »
Very disappointed and quite frankly, saddened to hear about Jarrod Mullin.


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« 2017-Jan-18, 03:13 PM Reply #4 »
Like to know what he's done wrong?

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« 2017-Feb-10, 02:26 PM Reply #5 »

NRL boss Greenberg saddened by Mullen saga

Jarrod Mullen's rugby league career is all but over after reports his B-sample has tested positive to steroid Drostanolone.

NRL boss Todd Greenberg is saddened by the plight of Newcastle star Jarrod Mullen and has used the saga to further warn players about performance-enhancing drugs.

The 29-year-old Mullen's career appears all but over if a report that his B-sample has also tested positive to steroid Drostanolone is correct, leaving him facing a maximum four-year ban.

The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has yet to confirm the B test result with either the NRL or Newcastle, but Channel Seven reported the sample returned positive to a banned substance.

At this point, Mullen remains suspended provisionally by the governing body after an out-of-season test by ASADA last November came back positive

"Anyone who loses a career, it's disappointing for them, and ultimately disappointing for the game. But there are always consequences for poor decisions," Greenberg said on Friday.

Newcastle CEO Matt Gidley said the club was still waiting to hear from ASADA about the B-sample outcome with the new NRL season just three weeks away.

"It's difficult. I've spoken to ASADA about that. It's difficult for them to give us any definite time frame," Gidley said.

"They understand we would like this to move as quickly as practically possible.

"They're mindful of that and we're hopeful it's a matter of weeks rather than months."

Mullen is the first NRL player to test positive to a banned steroid since former Sydney Roosters forward Martin Kennedy was hit in 2015 with a two-year, nine-month ban.

Greenberg re-iterated penalties were clear and well-known.

"We do a huge amount of education and players need to make good choices and when they don't and they take risks, there are massive consequences," he said.

"We're talking about career-defining consequences. I think all players are acutely aware of their responsibilities."

It is understood ASADA is still investigating the background to Mullen's positive test.

"When an athlete returns an Adverse Analytical Finding, we fully explore the circumstances around that AAF," ASADA said.

"How the athlete accessed the substance, the role of the people surrounding the athlete and any other issues pertaining to the use of the substance by the athlete--in doing so, we pursue and follow any leads as part of that process."

Gidley said there was no suggestion that any other player could be caught up in the case.

"There's been no indication that there is anyone else who has been implicated in this," he said.

"At the moment Jarrod has returned a positive test, that's unfortunate but at this stage there is no one else under investigation."

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« 2017-Feb-10, 07:49 PM Reply #6 »
It's an absolute joke that Mullens career will be finished by this.
ASADA is a sick political joke

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« 2017-Feb-10, 08:04 PM Reply #7 »
What bullshit.

That was short.

No at in the world that World try was a try emthdown

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« 2017-Feb-10, 08:37 PM Reply #8 »
Hasn't taken long for the bunker to fluff one   :lol:

I love the 'inconclusive' spiel ..... one angle was clear that he was short, even the zoom showed green grass yet he still awarded it  :shutup:

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« 2017-Feb-11, 03:38 AM Reply #9 »
It's an absolute joke that Mullens career will be finished by this.
ASADA is a sick political joke

Spot on mate.

Notice it says in the above report:

The 29-year-old Mullen's career appears all but over if a report that his B-sample has also tested positive to steroid Drostanolone is correct, leaving him facing a maximum four-year ban.

The Australian Sports Anti-Doping Authority has yet to confirm the B test result with either the NRL or Newcastle, but Channel Seven reported the sample returned positive to a banned substance.


So this body ASADA is supposed to be the nation's authority on sport's dope testing but someone is leaking the test results to the Coke snorters at Channel 7 (refer Tim Worner story where his ex lover and PA claims he snorts Coke to enhance the love making experience). It is most likely that they are being paid for the information because we know the media's modus operandi in scandals like this and the Mitchell Pearce "$250,000 video in the closet" disgrace.

During the Cronulla and Essendon scandals it was commonplace to see people like Rebecca Wilson quoting inside sources at ASADA.

I consider the breaches of security at ASADA far more seriously than the individual Mullen case. He is a diminutive 29 year old trying to prolong his career following some serious injuries and whilst any (unproven at this point) usage of steroids is a serious breach of the rules, at least you can understand why he might use these things.

But will anything be done about ASADA's criminal behaviour in releasing medical information about an individual? Of course not. Because it would threaten the protected species at Channel 7.

I don't like Donald Trump as an individual but geez it was great to see him elected on a platform where he called the media a "bunch of criminals". There is something satisfying to know there are far more people who think like I do about these criminals. They have created a system whereby they illegally pay for information but are protected by Stephen Conroy legislation that describes this as "being in the public interest".

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« 2017-Feb-11, 12:11 PM Reply #10 »
Shame regarding Mullen but if he is guilty, then there are no excuses.

He was such a talent when he was young but injuries etc cruelled him.

As a knights fan, it is disappointing to lose a star player and is another nail in the wooden spoon coffin.,

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« 2017-Feb-12, 10:56 AM Reply #11 »
I saw this and PP7s vicious unsubstantiated attack came to mind   :lol:


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« 2017-Mar-05, 06:09 PM Reply #12 »
Should Tim Simona ever play NRL again ?

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« 2017-Mar-05, 06:19 PM Reply #13 »
Should Tim Simona ever play NRL again ?

What did he do? Did he kill someone  :what:

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« 2017-Mar-05, 06:58 PM Reply #14 »
depends on the extent of his gambling
when will we find out

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« 2017-Mar-05, 07:04 PM Reply #15 »
depends on the extent of his gambling
when will we find out

The extent is no more than 10 or 20 dollars but it is backing his opposite numbers to be first try scorers.



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« 2017-Mar-07, 10:50 AM Reply #17 »
Is this the old or the new girlfriend?

The old one got a bit nasty. The boy needs some guidance. Happy to help out   emthup

Bryce Cartwright's ex-girlfriend reportedly posted explicit photo of him online

Image Brittany Hura reportedly tweeted NRL star posing naked in a selfie

Hura reportedly posted videos threatening to kill the Penrith Panthers player

'You're going to be dead, bro,' the 24-year-old is heard saying in the video

She also claimed he could not 'pleasure' a woman in another of her rants

'You think I'm laughing because I'm mentally f***ed up?
'I'm not mentally f***ed up I'm just laughing at you ... you're going to be dead soon.
'In the grave ... six feet under ... you don't even know what's coming at you.
'Don't worry about me I'll be somewhere ... on CCTV.'



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4028086/Ex-girlfriend-NRL-star-Bryce-Cartwright-threatens-kill-Facebook-video.html

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« 2017-Mar-07, 12:44 PM Reply #18 »
Pretty sure she was his girlfriend when he got the other girl pregnant, hence her being a tad cranky when she found out.

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« 2017-Apr-04, 11:26 AM Reply #19 »
Cooper Cronk to leave Melbourne for Sydney at the end of the season.

« Last Edit: 2017-Apr-04, 11:37 AM by Authorized »

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« 2017-Apr-04, 04:17 PM Reply #20 »
Hi everyone, I need a bit of help with a rule that appears to have changed.

Way back when, when I played junior Rugby League you were not allowed to come out of your own in-goal area whilst a try conversion was being kicked.

Has this ruled changed?

Because whilst watching the Titans v Warriors game when the Titans kicker was running in to take the kicks several Warrior players would run at least 10 metres out into the field of play.

I have seen in the past where a penalty was awarded in front of the post to the kicker regardless of the outcome of the first kick.

Has the rule changed or do the 4 blind mice just ignore it?

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« 2017-Apr-04, 04:43 PM Reply #21 »
I I don't know whether it's been changed but I've thought the same about blokes meandering about
under the posts when akick's being taken. Open to charges of trying to distract the kicker with another kick
for goal if the original is unsuccessful.

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« 2017-Apr-04, 09:42 PM Reply #22 »


Has the rule changed or do the 4 blind mice just ignore it?

The blind mice just ignore it, been going on for ages and it's rather annoying imho and not to mention pretty disrespectful to the bloke kicking.

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« 2017-Apr-05, 02:21 PM Reply #23 »
NRL coaches. Can anybody name the last NRL coach to just retire rather than be sacked, replaced, coherced or resigned. I mean a coach that gave up the job on his own accord ???????? Struggling to find modern day coach maybe Jack Gibson

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« 2017-Apr-05, 02:59 PM Reply #24 »
I don't think it was in this century.

The best way to know when a coach is all but chopped is when a club official states, "John Smith is our coach and we are more than happy with him"

It's time for "John Smith" to start looking at holiday brochures.

Loyalty in sport has long gone.

I thought John Lang may have retired due to ill health but the Rabbitohs sacked him as well.

44 coaches sacked in the last decade and I think that includes interim coaches that may be a bit misleading. Still job security is a very low consideration for a 7 day 18 hour a day job.


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