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« 2012-Jul-12, 09:44 PM Reply #175 »
yeh , the bloke taking money from him was a very good player , but he was definately playing at levels beyond him at that stage

played a bit with fenech - terrible

Used to get a few sportsmen in at Star - highlight was playing with Paquiaco, Manly players weren't bad - but not great either. Delta's fella was the rare celeb that was ok
Bosnich and Fenech were definately big targets for a few in the casino

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« 2012-Jul-13, 09:57 AM Reply #176 »
Shane Warne gone in level 12, surprisingly he was shown on the tournament news as representing UK.  :(

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« 2012-Aug-02, 04:34 AM Reply #177 »
So yesterday Pokerstars bought Full Tilt Poker and all its assets/debts.

Official Announcement  - http://www.pokerstars.com/press/pdf/ps-settles-us-dispute-acquires-assets-of-ftp.pdf
Corporate Blog            - www.pokerstarsblog.com/corporate_blog/2012/pokerstars-settles-with-united-states-doj-096492.html

They will be paying all ROW balances, US players being paid by the DOJ.

2+2 post by Pokerstars employee
http://forumserver.twoplustwo.com/29/news-views-gossip/official-pokerstars-announcement-regarding-ftp-doj-no-low-content-meme-posts-please-pp-1228781/

Some snippets;

Q: Will Full Tilt be closed down permanently?

A: No. We plan to re-open Full Tilt in most markets within 90 days of closing (which will take place within seven days). At that time, player accounts will be fully available for use, play or withdrawal


Q: Does this settlement mean I can play real money online poker in the United States?

A: No. Under the terms of our agreement with the U.S. Department of Justice, we will not offer real money online poker in the U.S. until such time as there is regulation and licensing permitting this. The agreement does expressly allow for both PokerStars and Full Tilt Poker brands to apply for such licenses in the U.S. whenever they are offered


Q: Can I transfer my FTP funds to an account on PokerStars?

A: We hope to have the functionality in place to allow inter-site transfers between Full Tilt Poker and PokerStars, so that you can enjoy playing again on either platform of your choosing. We will provide additional guidance on this in the coming weeks.

I dont know if anyone plays online but this could either be good or bad. Less competition in the long term may hurt the game online, but once its legalised in the US and we get a global player pool the money should be rolling back in :x:

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« 2012-Aug-02, 09:24 AM Reply #178 »
Awesome news Whispering, will be applying ASAP to get the $2 out of my FTP a/c and into my STARS a/c.

Obviously, the US Govt has softened its attitude to online gambling and after the U.S . Dept of Justice works through the merger I am sure they will legislate to allow U.S. residents to play online again , be a welcome change to playing against someone besides Russians or Soviet Satellite opponents again.

The interesting point is when the U.S. finally gets back online  will the Australian Govt change the online gambling legislation to allow us with Australian companies . I dont like the fact that I am technically breaking the law playing Poker online.

Also if they do change the laws hopefully they get rid of the  restrictions on INPAY betting in Australia and give us an equal playing field for online betting ..

As I said great news especially as the FTP players get their funds restored . Even better I had a good win in  a live game last night so I have enough to eat for the next week and to put a couple of hundred in my Stars A/C.   :biggrin:

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« 2012-Aug-02, 06:40 PM Reply #179 »
While there are a few States in the US that have legislation making it illegal to play online poker I suspect the playing of on-line poker is still legal in most US States.

The problem on the Federal level was not the playing of poker but the movement of money between the poker sites and the players.

It's the Poker sites that have banned the US players because the owners have very real concerns about being arrested for breaking these anti-terrorism type laws about money transfers if they ever set foot in the US.


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« 2012-Aug-02, 08:01 PM Reply #180 »
  :biggrin: Really happy for those that had significant funds in FT - and for me that had a less significant amount - so much time and effort into building those bankrolls - and was pretty unbeilavable how much people kept in these accounts - really treated like a bank acct

played my first live tourney for about 18 mths last night , very rusty - but got through the 1st day  :x: , going to need some luck on saturday- good fun though -

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« 2012-Oct-07, 04:10 PM Reply #181 »
Wow London Private Gaming Club refuses to pay Ivey 7.2m quid he won playing Punto Banco over 2 nights.

It has been approx 6 weeks and pretty poor of Casino not to pay after the owners had flown in and checked out cheating/ collusion etc.

Great to see Isildur1 win nearly 900k before losing 500k back at 2/7 triple draw. Def Sicko.

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« 2012-Oct-07, 04:21 PM Reply #182 »
BRITAIN'S oldest casino is investigating a £7.3 million ($11.5 million) win by the world’s top poker player – and is refusing to pay him a penny.

Crockfords, an exclusive gaming club in London's Mayfair, has informed the authorities that it is withholding Phil Ivey’s payout. A source with close knowledge of the dispute described the situation as unprecedented.

Accompanied by a "beautiful Oriental woman", Mr Ivey, a 35-year-old Californian, was playing Punto Banco, which is a skill-free variant of baccarat, when he struck a remarkable winning streak.

The 184-year-old casino initially agreed to transfer the winnings to his bank account, but six weeks on it has returned only his £1 million stake.

Instead it began an exhaustive inquiry. Staff, including the female croupier, were interviewed at length amid fears there may have been some form of collusion. This is thought to have been ruled out.

While it is unclear what, if anything, Mr Ivey has been accused of, lawyers for both sides are said to be engaged in an increasingly tense stand-off. It is not thought that police have been alerted.

Sources said Mr Ivey played for two nights over the August bank holiday for about seven hours in all. Suspicions over the win intensified when it was discovered that his companion’s membership of another Mayfair casino had previously been suspended. The reason for this has not been revealed.

Crockfords, the oldest private gaming club in the world, is owned by Genting, the Malaysian gaming corporation.

Genting investigators flew to London from Kuala Lumpur to speak to everyone who was working on the two nights in question and to examine hours of film from surveillance cameras. The cards used and the shoe they were dealt from were also scrutinised.

"No imperfections, or marks, that would have given Ivey an advantage were found. In any case, Ivey at no time touched the cards," said a source. "The shoe was also thoroughly inspected; once again the investigators drew a blank."

Mr Ivey, who once picked up £10 million in a poker tournament in Las Vegas, was playing in a small private room on the ground floor of Crockfords.

He sat next to his companion. The only other people in the room were the croupier and an inspector. All the action was recorded on ten cameras. Mr Ivey was initially gambling £50,000 per hand, which can be over in less than a minute. He was later given permission by the management to increase his stake to £150,000.

Punto Banco is the favoured game of high-rollers. The result is determined as soon as the cards are dealt – it offers marginally better odds than games such as roulette.

At first, Mr Ivey’s losses were heading towards £500,000 but he recovered, and at the end of the first night was £2.3 million up. His winning form continued on the second night and by the time that he signalled he was ready to quit he had amassed £7.3 million.

He told the management he wanted the money transferred into his bank account.
The casino allegedly told him it couldn’t be done straight away because of the bank holiday, but assured him that it would be done on Tuesday, August 28.

Mr Ivey left the club and the casino began an immediate investigation.
Because of the difficulties involved, instances of Punto Banco cheating are rare.

Twelve years ago a Triad gang used covert surveillance footage to read cards being dealt and relay a signal to a receiver outside the casino. The information was then transmitted to the player using a hidden earpiece. There is no suggestion that Mr Ivey is accused of using any of these methods.

Although he is a respected figure in the poker world, casinos regard him as a "hit and run" gambler, with a tendency to "quit after just a few hands if he wins big". On this occasion, Mr Ivey, a divorcé, assured Crockfords bosses that he would play for a serious amount of time, and transferred £1 million into the casino’s bank.

Mr Ivey declined to comment when approached by a Daily Mail reporter at a tournament in Cannes last week.

"Please don’t talk to me. I am concentrating on my tournament," he said.

His mother, Pamela Ivey, who lives in Las Vegas, said: "He never mentioned it. It can’t have been very important to him, or I think he’d have mentioned it."

Last night a spokesman for Crockfords said: "As a private club we put great store on the confidentiality of the relationship between ourselves and our client and we therefore have no comment to make."


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« 2012-Oct-07, 04:23 PM Reply #183 »
Phil on a lucky streak ..... not much scarier than that for a casino.

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« 2012-Oct-07, 05:08 PM Reply #184 »
Loved Mum's comment.

Any Casino would be in trouble if Phil hit a lucky streak.

I would love to know how he is travelling as JK always reckon he is a broke degen.

He doesn't seem to travel too bad for a broke degen.

Wenona how about a quick h/u game one day or get Ara and I can donate.

Played a tourney with Ara one day he kicked my but. Only just started back last week.

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« 2012-Oct-07, 05:57 PM Reply #185 »
I don't play anymore.

It's like pulling teeth to me now.

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« 2012-Oct-07, 05:58 PM Reply #186 »
That said, if the glory bonus days returned I'd probably do it and just suffer.

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« 2012-Oct-07, 06:44 PM Reply #187 »
Ah no worries I still donate, still love playing but not as much.

I love checking on Isul. Illari and Ivey and Gustav to see how they are going.

Just feel more in control with playing poker than letting Ring a Ding etc decide what is gunna happen.

Always felt the greatest thrill when I backed a winner with serious $$$ as with all tyhe variables it is quite a feat.

I take my hat off to genuine winners over a number of years at any form of punting.
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« 2017-Jun-25, 09:32 PM Reply #188 »
2017 World Series has been under way for a while - up to event 48.

Good to see an Aussie, James Obst currently leading the Player of The Year points.

He's picked up a bracelet and has been really solid all series - he's also currently got a good stack in the $10,000 Seven Card Stud Hi-Lo 8 or better - I game I really enjoy playing but have never been able to win money at.  :(

If you want to follow the updates on the series here's a good link :

http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/updates.asp?grid=1352&tid=15648


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« 2017-Jun-25, 10:57 PM Reply #189 »
James Obst

Yeah he was a bit of a prodigy and made a small fortune online while still in high school in adelaide.

Was pretty well known online name back when i was into it. Would be 8-10 years ago now.


Also saw that 2015 main event winner took home another win this year in another event. Good to see on of them show its not a fluke especially how ridiculous the run was he got in the main event. .
« Last Edit: 2017-Jun-25, 11:03 PM by arakaan »

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« 2017-Jun-26, 11:05 AM Reply #190 »
He finished 41st in the Stud 8 - that $10k Stud 8 Hi Lo is one serious event - all the old school players turn up - no flukes in this one.

26 left and they include : Duhamel, Hellmuth, Todd Brunson, Chris Ferguson, Negreanu, Harman .....

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« 2017-Jun-26, 02:19 PM Reply #191 »
No Warne?

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« 2017-Jun-26, 05:57 PM Reply #192 »
No doubt he'll rock up for the main event JWH.

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« 2017-Jun-26, 06:02 PM Reply #193 »
  :biggrin:

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« 2017-Sep-02, 09:42 PM Reply #194 »
So playing online poker in Australia is being made impossible but those who profess to be so concerned about problem gambling allow the continuation of organisations like lotto land and other lottery sites that basically just steal people's money and of course the pokies are still untouchable.

The hypocrisy and ignorance of these do-gooders is f**king staggering., and I hope they all rot in hell.

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« 2017-Sep-03, 01:40 PM Reply #195 »

The hypocrisy and ignorance of these do-gooders is f**king staggering., and I hope they all rot in hell.

Why hold back?

Say what you really think.


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