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Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 12:44 AM

A thread for discussion on the 2019 season.

Early Injury List - some big names on it:

FULL CASUALTY WARD

BRONCOS

Anthony Milford (hamstring/shoulder) - Round 1

RAIDERS

Jordan Rapana (shoulder) - Round 11-14

Ata Hingano (shoulder) - mid-season

Joey Leilua (hamstring) -Round 1

Michael Oldfield (knee) - Round 1

John Bateman (side strain) - Round 1

BULLDOGS

Fa’amanu Brown (leg) - Round 4

SHARKS

Josh Dugan (shoulder) - Round 1

Wade Graham (knee) - Round 9-12

Ava Seumenafagai (unknown) - TBC

TITANS

Ryan James (knee) - Round 1-3

AJ Brimcons (shoulder) - trials

SEA EAGLES

Lachlan Croker (knee) - TBC

Tom Trbojevic (hamstring) - TBC

Kelepi Tanginoa (knee) - TBC

Taniela Paseka (knee) - TBC

STORM

Jahrome Hughes (calf/cramp) - trials

Will Chambers (ankle) - trials

WARRIORS

Issac Luke (shoulder) - Round 4

Blake Green (hamstring) - Round 1

KNIGHTS

Tautau Moga (knee) - Round 2

Jacob Saifiti (leg) - Round 1

Slade Griffin (knee) - TBC

COWBOYS

Michael Morgan (biceps) - trials

Jordan Kahu (ribs) - trials

Kurt Wiltshire (ankle) - TBC

EELS

Kaysa Pritchard (shoulder) - Round 1

PANTHERS

Nathan Cleary (ankle) - trials

Sam McKendry (knee) - TBC

Viliame Kikau (knee) - TBC

RABBITOHS

Greg Inglis (knee) - trials-Round 1

Adam Doueihi (knee) - Round 4-5

Billy Brittain (concussion/face) - TBC

DRAGONS

Jack de Belin (illness) - trials

Jacob Host (shoulder) - Round 1

ROOSTERS

Ryan Hall (knee) - TBC

Angus Crichton (shoulder) - trials

Craig Garvey (hamstring) - trials

TIGERS

Nil
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 12:56 AM
Summary of all the moves and changes from the NRL

http://www.nrl.com/2018-nrl-player-movements/tabid/10874/newsid/112090/default.aspx

Apart from those in the OP, some of the more significant ones a

Adam Blair, Broncos to Warriors
Aaron Woods, Tigers to Bulldogs
James Graham, Bulldogs to Saints
Sam Kasiano, Bulldogs to Storm
Josh Dugan, Saints to Sharks
Chris Heighington, Sharks to Knights
Gerard Beale, Sharks to Warriors
Mitch Rein, Panthers to titans
Chris McQueen, Titans to Tigers
Jarryd Hayne, Titans to Eels
Ryan Hoffman, Warriors to Storm
Connor Watson, Roosters to Knights
Aidan Guerra, Roosters to Knights
Dane Gagai, Knights to Rabbits
Kane Evans, Roosters to Eels
Aaron Gray, Rabbitohs to Sharks
Russell Packer, Saints to Tigers
James Tedesco, Tigers to Roosters

Retirements/Other

Steve Matai (retired),
Brett Stewart (retired)
Matt Ballin (retired)
Anthony Tupou (retired)
Isaac De Gois (retired)
Jeff Robson (retired)
Semi Radradra (rugby union)
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 01:01 AM
Early market from UBET

Team Premiers Top 4 Final 8 Minor Premiers
Sydney Roosters $5.50 $1.80 $1.20 $4.75
North QLD Cowboys $6.00 $2.00 $1.25 $5.50
Melbourne Storm $6.50 $1.90 $1.22 $5.50
Brisbane Broncos $10.00 $2.50 $1.40 $10.00
Penrith Panthers $11.00 $2.50 $1.50 $10.00
Cronulla Sharks $13.00 $3.25 $1.60 $13.00
Parramatta Eels $13.00 $2.85 $1.50 $13.00
Manly Sea Eagles $15.00 $3.00 $1.70 $15.00
South Sydney Rabbitohs $15.00 $3.50 $1.70 $15.00
Canberra Raiders $17.00 $3.75 $1.75 $15.00
St George Illa $21.00 $5.00 $2.00 $21.00
Newcastle Knights $26.00 $6.00 $2.75 $34.00
Bulldogs $34.00 $7.00 $3.00 $41.00
New Zealand Warriors $41.00 $9.00 $3.50 $51.00
Gold Coast Titans $51.00 $11.00 $4.25 $67.00
Wests Tigers $51.00 $11.00 $4.50 $67.00
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2017-Dec-05, 06:21 AM
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 07:44 AM
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:

Along with Des Hasler.

Any other coaching changes? I can't keep up   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2017-Dec-05, 09:02 AM
The titans had one as well
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-04, 12:16 AM
So if Mitchell Pearce gets caught on camera drunk acting like an idiot he gets 9 weeks.

But if you are a Broncos player - no worries. You can keep playing. No penalty.

Matthew Lodge attack victims speak out as CCTV footage emerges of NRL player's drunken assault

The victims of a violent home invasion in New York by rugby league player Matthew Lodge say they feel betrayed by the National Rugby League for allowing him to play while their court ordered compensation remains unpaid.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/matthew-lodge-attack-victims-speak-out/9504796

Reminds me to put my annual bet on the "media darling" teams in the NRL - way ahead over the years using this strategy.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-04, 07:20 AM
Disgraceful
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-06, 09:47 PM
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-09, 07:32 AM
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-09, 08:41 AM
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.

I actually do not think they should be spending billions. If it actually costs that much then it is too expensive (somehow I doubt it costs that much to renovate and there is a degree of "gold digging" incorporated in the price).

As you say Jeunes, most games the stadiums are only 10-20% full.

As someone commented, it would be cheaper to knock down the old stadiums and build new ones at that price.

Would love to see an itemization of the multi-billion dollar estimates, and in particular how much was proposed being spent on corporate boxes.

Corporate Boxes - where the social elite get free food and wine and watch the games in luxurious comfort, usually at the expense of the hapless shareholders of a company or worse still, a government department.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Mar-09, 01:31 PM
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Devil on 2018-Mar-09, 02:51 PM
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.
As a Titans follower I fear we might have a hold of the spoon by the season end
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-09, 05:16 PM
I like their pack, Devil.
If the halved perform they'll go better than you think
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-09, 07:06 PM
Great win. But a long way to be really competitive in the top echelons of the competition.

Great crowd and again the passion is there.

If we stop the competition now, we will be in the top 8.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-09, 10:01 PM
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :thankyou:

 :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Couldn't find an emoji for broken record  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-09, 10:57 PM
Melbourne Storm home games

Say what  :/
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Mar-10, 09:32 AM
:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Couldn't find an emoji for broken record  :whistle:

Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-10, 10:34 AM
I do
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-10, 09:00 PM
The only way Sydney will fill the stadiums more than usual is double headers.

At least with Afl, every Melb team plays in the two stadiums. Sydney does not have the geography to accommodate this and the fans do not travel at times from Manly, Cronulla and Roosters etc.

Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.



Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-10, 09:01 PM
Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.

You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-10, 09:08 PM


Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.

How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-10, 09:25 PM
You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.

Mate there are two issues.
i) Do the grounds need some renovations - agree they probably do
ii) The cost.

$2.7 billion is outrageous. Who makes these things up? How could it possibly cost $2.7 billion to renovate something that is worth significantly less than that in sum value.

Are they incorporating the cost of paying off the CFMEU to allow workers on site?  Are they putting gold inlay into the seats?

Tradesmen are in such short supply in Sydney a lot of people are just putting up with things rather than pay exorbitant costs. Maybe we have to do the same with the Stadiums?

There has to be a point at which politicians say "we cannot afford that".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-10, 09:55 PM
How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.



I was trying to imply Concord Oval was a crap location but at that time, it was amongst the best options. Same for Allianz as it was next to the SCG.

I have been to a fair few sporting venues around Australia and the biggest issue from suburban grounds to the major stadiums is transport.

I must be getting older but the thrill of queuing and fighting crowds to sit in a hard plastic chair with overpriced food has evaporated with the advent of pay tv etc. However I do try to see at least 1 live Afl and Nrl every year.


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-11, 07:35 AM
PP I agree on the costs   emthup

This is being built out my way http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/5271297/photos-nepean-river-bridge-on-target-for-october/?cs=1810

Anyone who does the river walk knows a better crossing on the Nth was needed but how can it cost that? Why does it talk so long?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-11, 07:48 AM
A walking bridge. Shite. Try driving through Richmond trying to cross the river to Kurrajong.
Probably bloody quicker to walk
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-11, 07:58 AM
PP I agree on the costs   emthup

This is being built out my way http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/5271297/photos-nepean-river-bridge-on-target-for-october/?cs=1810

Anyone who does the river walk knows a better crossing on the Nth was needed but how can it cost that? Why does it talk so long?

The cost blowouts are related to the time it takes I reckon. And I further reckon they are no accident.

Some of the costs put forward to perform public works in Sydney are not only outrageous, but they seem to escape any scrutiny.

I was all for the upgrade of the Stadiums until they started mentioning the costs.

The cynic in me thinks that there are some players here who cannot wait to get their grubby hands on some of the taxpayers cash.

With thinks like Stadium upgrades, the NBN, NDIS, West Connex and a whole raft of multi-billion dollar "projects" going on, is it any wonder it is nigh unaffordable to raise a family with a mortgage these days.

We have got to start questioning these costs.

There was one with the NDIS the other day and them paying $1.3 million for "strategic advice" that was picked up in the media.

I would have thought if you employ execs on big bucks then it is implied that the taxpayers get "strategic advice" as part of the execs package. Apparently not  :/


Anyway back to the League.

As a Roosters fan I can tell you that there is not a lot of good feeling toward the coach about the treatment of Mitchell Pearce and the loss last night has done nothing to improve that feeling.

That market they have on the first coach to get the bullet - might find a big surprise if Easts don't start winning games pretty soon.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-11, 08:24 AM
Early days yet but not a lot of confidence in some of the combinations yet.

I think the coaches of Roosters, Broncos, Panthers, Warriors, Raiders and Dragons will be under the most pressure this year. The coaches of Tigers, Knights, Souths, Bulldogs and Titans have some time to go.

After round 5, it will be interesting to see what happens after the merry go around of players for this season. Warriors and Tigers winning certainly upset a few multis including mine.

Knights have a long way to be competitive against the better side as their forwards looked old at times. But I am confident we can avoid the spoon.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-11, 08:29 AM
Warriors were exceptional last night and combined with plenty of luck were too good for my bunnies
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-11, 11:49 AM


There was one with the NDIS the other day and them paying $1.3 million for "strategic advice" that was picked up in the media.

I would have thought if you employ execs on big bucks then it is implied that the taxpayers get "strategic advice" as part of the execs package. Apparently not  :/




Still off topic but   :lol:

I feel they use 'consultants' etc has it provides a level of deniability  :chin:

One local council I deal with have recently paid over $75k for a consultant all to provide a report that outlines what the division & manager I deal with was already doing. There is a fully costed strategic short & long term plan in place yet this other area of the council thought it was somehow prudent to waste this money.

I irony is the current plan was devised for free.  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-18, 12:41 PM
The entire media focus when Wests Tigers beat Easts in Round 1 was on Easts.

Somehow they forgot to analyze the game and give credit where credit was due.

After round 2 it is obvious that Cleary has the Tigers defensive patterns down pat conceding only 16 points in two games.

You stop the other teams scoring points you win games.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-23, 08:41 AM
Well, well (well)! Like I said at the time of the Eels drama that there is a stink to this when one of the transcripts had Seward referring to asking Todd "What they do at the Dogs"

Yet we end up with Greenberg running the game.


NRL boss Todd Greenberg denies wrongdoing after explosive Kieran Foran report



By AAP
10 hours ago

 

Greenberg to be scrutinised



NRL CEO Todd Greenberg has declared he has nothing to hide, Manly allegedly seeking to discredit him as the Sea Eagles' salary-cap investigation draws to a conclusion.

Greenberg said the game's governing body hoped in the next week or so to hand down its findings into allegations the Sea Eagles had rorted the salary cap and offered illegal third-party agreements to players.

Fairfax Media reported Manly had pointed to a contract, offered to Kieran Foran by Canterbury in 2012 when Greenberg was CEO of the Bulldogs.

It was alleged Greenberg was guilty of bending the rules in a fashion similar to what the Sea Eagles had been accused of.

However Greenberg said he was satisfied he had nothing to hide and stood by his actions.

"I think you're referring to a negotiation that happened with Kieran Foran back in 2011 or 2012," Greenberg said.

"I'm completely aware of that. I'm completely comfortable with my track record, both in the club and with that particular negotiation. He ended up not signing.

"I've been a proponent of players earning additional income outside of their contract fees but understanding about the rules. So I'm very comfortable."

Asked if he was worried he had become a target of those he was investigating, Greenberg said: "I've been around long enough to know sometimes these sorts of things happen.

"It happened around the Parramatta investigation. I have to make the best decisions for the game, I have to report to a chairman and a commission and I have to be completely transparent with them.

"Leadership and popularity are different. I'm going to have to lead on this decision and we will. It won't please everyone and I understand that."

Greenberg said he had not done anything illegal in his attempt to lure Foran to the Dogs along with then coach Des Hasler.

"The irony is when I took this job, one of the things people said was 'it's great to have someone that's experienced at club level'. But when you've been at club level, you've been experienced in all these things," Greenberg said.

"Everyone comes from somewhere, I enjoyed my time as a club CEO and I'm very comfortable with how I handled myself."
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-23, 05:22 PM
Still off topic but   :lol:

I feel they use 'consultants' etc has it provides a level of deniability  :chin:

One local council I deal with have recently paid over $75k for a consultant all to provide a report that outlines what the division & manager I deal with was already doing. There is a fully costed strategic short & long term plan in place yet this other area of the council thought it was somehow prudent to waste this money.

I irony is the current plan was devised for free.  :shutup:

The price in the most recent reports has gone up to $3 billion.

I'm working on the 2018 Commonwealth Games and in an induction they stated that the total amount spent on upgrading the existing facilities to accommodate the Games was $200 million.

Where on this Lord's earth are they getting a figure of $3 billion from for the stadium upgrades???

I hope the government holds their ground and says no. You just know that a lot of that money will be going into the pockets of people who are just scamming the taxpayers.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-24, 12:03 AM
Just catching up with some games.

How about that penalty that gifted Brisbane the game against the Tigers? They have to be kidding!! They are not even trying to hide the favoritism any more.

They may as well have virtual rugby league - a bit like Trackside. They can contrive the results to make the most money and the suckers will come back for more.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-24, 06:44 AM
Im loving the way the refs are going about their job this season. Hope they keep it up.
The clubs and players need to be pulled into line. They've bent the rues and changed the game way too much
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-24, 04:25 PM
Trouble with that Wily was why choose then to do it?

If you went through the game you'd find tonnes of similar play the balls.

You could argue he was -

1) square
2) the player playing the ball walked off the mark
3) he didn't have any effect on the play.

It was a shocking penalty  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-26, 12:35 PM
who was that nutcase Manly supporter who was here.
  :lol:

no surprise theyve been busted and No surprise that germ Fulton is in it up to his ears.

should never have been an Imortal and should be stripped of the honour
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: richo on 2018-Mar-27, 08:03 PM
go dragons
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-27, 09:13 PM
who was that nutcase Manly supporter who was here.
  :lol:

no surprise theyve been busted and No surprise that germ Fulton is in it up to his ears.

should never have been an Imortal and should be stripped of the honour

and no surprise to see massive double standards in the penalties handed down from the NRL / Greenberg  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Mar-30, 09:03 PM

Penalties, penalties, penalties. :rant: :rant: :rant:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Mar-30, 10:27 PM
Yes agree , starting to look like Rugby Union.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-31, 06:35 AM
Loving  the penalties.
Coaches have held the game to ransom for too long.
Stuff them, stop cheating
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-31, 11:29 AM
I think it's when they are blowing them Wily.

You could find something wrong every play the ball if you wanted to. Last night was a shocker  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Mar-31, 12:33 PM
I think its simple. The teams think this will not be continued by the refs and expect them to cave in.

They also have their mates in the media pushing the "it's ruining the game" line.

I hope they stick with it.

I think the only thing they are doing wrong is not binning the players more.

If a team has 2 or 3 in the bin in 1 game because they don't want to learn and are playing the game of chicken with the refs then guess what the coach will have that fixed up in a week.  ;)

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-01, 10:45 AM
Who was that who ran the water for Canterbury on Friday?

Been racking my brain but his name won't come to me. :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-01, 10:56 AM
Got me beat but can anyone explain why Cordner went to the head bin with a sore shoulder?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-02, 05:41 PM
Why are west’s playing in blue
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Apr-02, 06:16 PM
There our new colours. Don't you like it.


or maybe its this   ;)

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2018/03/26/wests-tigers-and-parramatta-to-support-stay-kind-initiative/
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-02, 06:28 PM
There’s always a reason. I guess I need to put it in my “uncontrollable basket”
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Apr-02, 06:59 PM
There's usually a couple a cracking jerseys in the indigenous round. Apart from that there all mostly average.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Apr-15, 09:00 PM
Ok. It is round 6 and there has been som interesting results this year.

First coach to be fired could take some more rounds.  I cannot see any of the bottom sides getting rid of anyone.

Dark horse could be Manly if the inconsistency continues and they miss out too on top 8.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Apr-21, 09:56 AM
I'm no wrap for Darius Boyd but I love the audio when he was called out by Klein to 'explain' the Slater 'try'

Boyd can be seen laughing at Klein saying 'this is going to be good ....' to which Klein responds 'No, No he had intent and he's allowed to drop kick it' all you can hear is Boyd just say 'Wow!'

It's about the only response you could give for such a flawed decision.

All this while vision of Slater is being played telling his team mates that it will be no try as he dropped it.

Anyone that has followed RL for 5 minutes would say that's a knock on  :bulb:

Todd Greenburg will go down as the man who presided over the NRL and drove it to ruin.  :wavecry:
 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-21, 05:16 PM
So what's the story? :what: :what:

From what I could hear Josh Reynolds was on the line with Fox for the Souths V Canberra game on the same day that West Tigers are playing.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Apr-25, 01:46 PM
So what's the story? :what: :what:

From what I could hear Josh Reynolds was on the line with Fox for the Souths V Canberra game on the same day that West Tigers are playing.

I think he was excused from having to travel up to Tamworth.

P.S. Had the game on the TV and was glancing at it. Took me 20 minutes to work out that Benji wasn't wearing a Black and Gold jersey. Not sure what the f. that was about  :what:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-28, 07:09 PM
In times gone by the conversion kick was taken according to the following

A kick at goal after a try may be taken from any point
on an imaginary line drawn parallel to the touch line
in the field of play and through the point where the try
was awarded.


These days the  kicks are taken from anywhere the kicker wishes.

Most recent  example was when Rein just scored in this match adjacent to the upright not between the posts.

Yet the conversion kick was taken about a yard wide of the black dot at the centre of the posts.


   
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Apr-29, 11:16 AM
Insufficient evidence.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 01:23 PM
There was nothing accidental about this.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-May-19, 02:00 PM
Your kidding surely Auth  :what:

Play it in full, Nappa goes up to make a tackle and Sims puts on a sidestep which causes Nappa to be out of position causing the accidental head clash.

It's neither a sin bin or a penalty  emthdown

Should have been knock on, Roosters scrum feed.

Once again the refs influencing the results of matches  emthdown

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 02:18 PM
He was purposely leading with the head Nate Myles style.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-May-19, 04:09 PM
 :no:

It only ended up like that due to Sims sidestep.

While it won't help the Roosters from last night, Nappa has escaped sanction.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 05:03 PM
The photo 2 up shows that means very little, DCE is clearly eye gouging yet got off.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-May-19, 07:29 PM
Your kidding surely Auth  :what:

Play it in full, Nappa goes up to make a tackle and Sims puts on a sidestep which causes Nappa to be out of position causing the accidental head clash.

It's neither a sin bin or a penalty  emthdown

Should have been knock on, Roosters scrum feed.

Once again the refs influencing the results of matches  emthdown

Brisbane got lucky again however with the injuries etc they had it was a good effort. The draw is more favourable over next few weeks so it will be interesting if they can challenge for a top 4.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Skybeau on 2018-Jun-14, 02:48 PM
Can one of you Northerners please explain the constant salary cap issues that go on in League?  Didn't Woods just move to the Bulldogs not long ago, now looking at going to Cronulla?  Have League club administrators heard of Excel?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jun-14, 05:09 PM
Greed mate. Pure and simple. They tweak the system to get the best short term benefit and ignore the long term
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 08:31 AM
Can one of you Northerners please explain the constant salary cap issues that go on in League?  Didn't Woods just move to the Bulldogs not long ago, now looking at going to Cronulla?  Have League club administrators heard of Excel?

I thought you were talking to people north of the harbour bridge   :lol:

Salary Caps will never work. There are more favourable terms for some clubs over others. AFL people would be aware of the rules applied to NSW and Qld vs. the rest of the country. Not too dissimilar here with Qld clubs and Souths getting away with blue murder.....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Jun-15, 09:55 AM
I thought you were talking to people north of the harbour bridge   :lol:

Salary Caps will never work. There are more favourable terms for some clubs over others. AFL people would be aware of the rules applied to NSW and Qld vs. the rest of the country. Not too dissimilar here with Qld clubs and Souths getting away with blue murder.....

and no mentioned of The Rorters.
  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 10:50 AM
Geez that one hung out there for over an hour without a bite   :lol:

Are Sam Burgess' TV contracts and Greg Inglis' "Indigenous Ambassador" salaries counted toward the cap  :what:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jun-15, 06:00 PM
Geez that one hung out there for over an hour without a bite   :lol:

Are Sam Burgess' TV contracts and Greg Inglis' "Indigenous Ambassador" salaries counted toward the cap  :what:

I think you’ll find they are mate but I stand to be corrected

Given that the NRL refuse us any 3rd parties that Crowe is involved, we are harshly treated.
Uncle Nick Politis uses his contacts for 3rd parties and it’s all okay :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 10:46 PM
State Of Origin trivia fact.

Barry Muir, the former Queensland Coach who coined the term "cockroaches" to describe his NSW opposition, is actually a cockroach himself by birth -

Full name    Barry A Muir
Born    18 September 1937 (age 80)
Tweed Heads, New South Wales, Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Muir
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jul-20, 08:25 PM
I see Brisbane have got their hometown Friday Night refs back.

They have destroyed the game with less than 20 minutes played.  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jul-20, 08:41 PM
Ive been watching but mostly distracted, what have the refs done wrong?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jul-20, 10:46 PM
Ive been watching but mostly distracted, what have the refs done wrong?

A couple of dubious ones in the leadup to 20-0 - Joey was onto them.  ;)

And in the earlier match:

NRL admits touch judge erred on controversial Katoa try

The NRL admitted the decision by a touch judge to raise his flag in the lead-up to a controversial try was wrong and promised a review of the incident that cost the Raiders in their 28-24 loss to Cronulla on Friday night.

While Canberra coach Ricky Stuart expressed fears rugby league is losing fans due to dramas related to match and review officials, an NRL spokesperson confirmed Sione Katoa's controversial four-pointer [57th minute] will be reviewed after the Referees Bunker overturned the on-field decision of 'no try'.

....

"But we've ruined the first 14 rounds of the competition. We've lost fans, I know so many people who have turned off rugby league because of it.

"But then halfway through the year Todd [NRL boss Todd Greenberg] comes out and says he told the referees to stop nit-picking.

"We're the only sport in the world that changes interpretations midway through the year.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/07/20/nrl-admits-touch-judge-erred-in-match-between-canberra-raiders-and-cronulla-sharks/

I'm one of the fans that is "turned off rugby league" like Ricky says. Tonight was the first game I've watched in ages.

The refs are too inconsistent.

I can cop the odd mistake.

But it is the interpretative stuff that is inconsistent.

As everybody knows, some teams are allowed to lie on the players in the play-the-ball area for longer than others. It is as simple as that.

I would rather see the game slow down and that they get rid of those penalties rather than continue to go how they are going.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-06, 08:45 PM
NRL continues to confuse me more and more each day.

Anthony Griffen sacked from the Panthers while 5th and pretty much certainties to make the finals.  Why would they do this?

Skyb - Phil Gould is the director of football for the Panthers, he pulls the strings.

Before a ball was even kicked this season there was talk that Griffin was in trouble, had lost the young captain through the off season etc and big rumour of a half time blow up with Gus.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-08, 09:59 PM
Skyb - heard Gould described today as the Lloyd Williams of the NRL - calls the shots & pulls the strings but doesn't put his name in the book.

Pretty accurate really  :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-09, 09:10 AM
Agree and I don't know why Cleary would sell his soul to go back there.

Terrific interview with Griffin on NRL360 last night. Said the only reason he got sacked is because he and Gus don't get on.

All the other stuff being spun by Gould is just complete bull$hit.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Skybeau on 2018-Aug-10, 07:31 AM
Skyb - Phil Gould is the director of football for the Panthers, he pulls the strings.

Before a ball was even kicked this season there was talk that Griffin was in trouble, had lost the young captain through the off season etc and big rumour of a half time blow up with Gus.

He sounds like a twat. Re the tunnel blow up, there’s a time and a place for having a chat, surely at half time isn’t that time.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 08:37 AM
Agree and I don't know why Cleary would sell his soul to go back there.

Terrific interview with Griffin on NRL360 last night. Said the only reason he got sacked is because he and Gus don't get on.

All the other stuff being spun by Gould is just complete bull$hit.

That’s all well and good for Griffin to say that but I suspect the truth lays somewhere else
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-10, 10:38 AM
The team is running 4th four weeks out from finals and a good chance to go deep into the finals. No coach in the history of the game or any other game I can think of has been sacked in that position.

I get the plan of keeping Nathan there by getting his dad as the coach but clearly Griffin wasn't allowing Gus to tell him how to coach, Gus couldn't handle that, they don't get on, so Gus punted him. There is no other explanation.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-10, 12:13 PM
I've always been a big fan of Gould from the time he played with Souths.

It was apparent then that he was to turn his hand to coaching once he retired as he was really the deputy coach to Piggins.

Later on his opinion pieces in the Herald and his TV commentary were reasoned and well-argued.

However for the past 10-15 years or so he has lost me.

This change of mine began due to his constant harping, regardless of the state of the match, when teams elected to have a kick for goal rather than a tap and run.

I now regard him as a big-headed boofhead who thinks he's the only one who knows anything about League.








 

     
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-10, 12:19 PM
Couldn't agree more. I and I'm sure anyone with Foxtel will only watch Foxtel if Ch9 is doing the same game and Gould is commentating. Having to listen to him for SOO games is painful.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 12:34 PM
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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 12:36 PM
The ratings may show otherwise. The only time I favour fox is when Hadley is commentating on 9

As to Griffin, the team being in the finals is covering the cracks They have played crap for the past 2 months after a very good start to the season. Mind you! It was a very soft draw for them as well

Having 50 put on them 3 games ago and getting out of jail in the dying minutes against the raiders & manly isn’t a team who would win the comp, despite their immense talent. They needed a change
They will  improve out of sight now Griffin is gone
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-10, 04:34 PM
That’s all well and good for Griffin to say that but I suspect the truth lays somewhere else

It's one of my favourite sayings Wily "the truth normally lies somewhere in the middle"

They'd both be right & both be wrong in instances.

Pure and simple, this is all about Cleary ..... Nathan that is  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:32 AM
I've always been a big fan of Gould from the time he played with Souths.

It was apparent then that he was to turn his hand to coaching once he retired as he was really the deputy coach to Piggins.

Later on his opinion pieces in the Herald and his TV commentary were reasoned and well-argued.

However for the past 10-15 years or so he has lost me.

This change of mine began due to his constant harping, regardless of the state of the match, when teams elected to have a kick for goal rather than a tap and run.

I now regard him as a big-headed boofhead who thinks he's the only one who knows anything about League.


I honestly think he is seriously depressed to the point I am concerned about him. You carefully listen to his voice on the commentary. It is the voice of someone who is struggling to see the positive side of anything. He seeks out negativity.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:33 AM
....Oh. And before I forget. The Roosters beat Souths last night to pinch the top place in the comp off them - nothing depressing in that   :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:22 PM
It is becoming painfully obvious that St George ejaculated some time during June or July.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-11, 08:37 PM
How does Graham get away with his use of his head in tackles?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: ratsack on 2018-Aug-11, 08:49 PM
It is becoming painfully obvious that St George ejaculated some time during June or July.

not watching  sad
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-28, 08:56 PM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-29, 06:39 AM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:

The suspicion is they may have pushed the boundaries as they attempted to keep the bulk of the side that took the club to their maiden premiership.   :angel:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-salary-cap-investigation-rocks-cronulla/news-story/1c833d08296e372bad3e610846c8d45f

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-29, 07:21 AM
The 3rd party deal structure needs to be overhauled
It’s not working
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-29, 11:06 AM
The 3rd party deal structure needs to be overhauled
It’s not working

  :lol:

You've just come to that conclusion Wily  :chin:

The whole thing is stuffed as it creates a bigger gap in the 'haves and have nots' which is the exact thing the salary cap is trying to stop  :shutup:

Clubs like Brisbane, The Roosters, Melb etc are awash with corporate money whilst say the Wests Tigers would be lucky to find a free train ticket from Leumeah station  :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-29, 11:13 AM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:

  :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-29, 07:34 PM
 :lol:

You've just come to that conclusion Wily  :chin:



No but I reckon it’s the first time here I could raise it :thumbsup:

I’m not concerned about 5he have and have nots but it’s whats allowed and not that is the issue
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-09, 05:30 PM
They couldn't possibly come back from this can they?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-09, 05:37 PM
Hold your hats here they come
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-17, 06:36 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Sep-17, 06:49 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.


Surely the immunity the roosters get on Uncle Nick rorting the cap is enough of an advantage PP7?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-17, 07:04 PM

Surely the immunity the roosters get on Uncle Nick rorting the cap is enough of an advantage PP7?
Rorting. What rorting? We had to let some pretty good players go to get the best signings plus there is the salary cut players are willing to take to be at such a wonderful club.

And why does Sam Burgess get a walk over something that would result in most players being immediately suspended?



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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-17, 08:22 PM
Latest news I've seen says that the young lady may have sent  :censored: pix to the Souths boys . . .

Who were so upset by her actions, that they responded in kind . .




As any happily married expectant father would do  :whistle:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-17, 08:53 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.

With the greatest respect Pp, you don’t have or know the facts. I understand  that as a rorters supporter you are always in the bunnies shadow but that should not sway the thinking of an intelligent bloke like yourself  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-18, 08:50 AM
No surprise to see Paul Kent on NRL360 running for the hills and doing backflips on the story he sat on then broke.
Another filthy jurno who was rightfully sitting next to a bigger germ, Rothfield.
I note old Phil was very quiet as well. I wonder if it’s anything to do with the inappropriate photos of the dirty old grub with a scantily clad “entertainer” on his knee at a recent function
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-18, 09:09 AM
Geez I feel sorry for Ben Hunt who, once again, is copping the blame for a loss in a big game. I don't get why he has to wear the blame for a loss while the teflon coated wonder boy Cleary escapes any criticism after completely butchering the Panthers last 2 sets in their loss.


Should Hunt have kicked it? Yeah probably but no one seems to have noticed the fact there were THREE unmarked players outside the bloke he passed to who seems to have also escaped any criticism for not passing the ball and taking the tackle.


It seems Hunt is just going to be one of these unfortunate players whose mistakes get blown out of all proportion while his brilliance, as displayed in the try he scored, is almost overlooked. Clearly he is a risk taker who is prepared to chance his arm to win a game, so you have to accept with those sort of players, taking those risks will not always pay off.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-20, 09:32 AM
Who runs the marketing department of the NRL ?

On Friday night at AAMI Stadium Melbourne Storm hosts Cronulla in the Preliminary final, not 600 metres, away at the MCG, Richmond play Collingwood in an AFL Preliminary final.

A crowd of 100,000 are expected at the MCG, whilst at AAMI Stadium maybe 25,000 will turn up. On Saturday night both stadiums will be empty.

Surely the NRL have missed a golden opportunity to promote NRL in Melbourne by not having the Storm vs Cronulla game on Saturday night.

Not only would a Saturday night game attract a larger crowd, received more publicity, but the promotion of what could be Billy Slater's last game would have been an added attraction.

BTW on his  retirement Slater and his wife, both born and bred in far north Queensland, will stay in Victoria on a 8ha property on the Mornington Peninsular to run Slater Throughbreds. His wife said, "we thought about moving back to Queensland, but Melbourne is home, and we love the people"

Surprisingly the other NRL Preliminary final between the Roosters & the Rabbitohs is on Saturday night......... could that have been on Friday night ?

Is there any logical reason or reasons why those NRL games were programmed on those nights ? TV rights ? Do more people attend Saturday night games in Sydney than on Friday nights ?

OR

Have Melbourne Storm been too successful under Craig Bellamy and the NRL care little of promoting the game in Melbourne in view of the following..

A : Seasons in the finals 15: Storm only missed the finals in 2010 as part of salary cap breach penalties. Playing for no points they won 14 games , enough to finish 5th.

B: Finals played 36 won 24 lost 12

C: Preliminary finals :10

D: Grand Finals 7 : 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2016, 2017

E: Premierships 4: 2007,2009. 2012,2017 ( 2007 & 2009 lost for salary cap breaches )

F: State of Origin / International debuts under Bellamy :19
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-20, 09:37 PM
So moving it to Saturday night might have brought 5k more fans?  :shrug:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-20, 11:16 PM
Plus the added coverage in the media,do not the NRL want the game to grow outside of Queensland  and NSW ? They are doing a damn giood job of alienating fans in Victoria, and as for sports fans in SA, Tas or WA they could careless. The only reason NRL rates well on tv is because the combined population of NSW and Queensland is greater than all those southern states, but if the NRL had enough foresight they would know that will not continue into the future. Melbourne alone will eventually overtake Sydney on population.

Not that I am any rapt for the AFL administration but they play the NRL on a break.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-21, 11:36 AM
The only reason NRL rates well on tv is because the combined population of NSW and Queensland is greater than all those southern states,

I know you have a chip on your shoulder and are only ever stirring to get a rise Bubba but that statement above is one of the silliest 'clasping at straws' I've seen from you yet  :sleep:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Sep-21, 12:25 PM
"chip"?

More like a bloody great big telegragh pole.


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-21, 07:20 PM
.What about offering an explanation for the programming of the preliminary final of Melbourne Storm on Friday night rather than Saturday night. What a lost opportunity by the NRL to promote rugby league in Melbourne with no AFL game in Melbourne on Saturday and the only AFL game is in Perth, with a two hour time difference .
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-21, 07:29 PM
I know you have a chip on your shoulder and are only ever stirring to get a rise Bubba but that statement above is one of the silliest 'clasping at straws' I've seen from you yet  :sleep:

 As hardly anyone actually goes to NFL games, as against the attendances at the AFL, I presume they all sit at home and watch NRL on tv, but only in Queensland & NSW.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-21, 07:49 PM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-22, 07:37 PM
The largest EVER attendance at any sporting in WA today 59,000 at AFL game between West Coast and Melbourne, following up 93.000 at MCG last night,
26.000 at AAMI last night , how many tonight at game between Roosters & South Sydney ?

50,000 ?? 45,000  ??

100/1 more than 75,000

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-22, 07:40 PM


100/1 more than 75,000

Gee, that would mean 35,000 odd standing outside  :shutup:

 :sleep:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-22, 07:50 PM
Gee, that would mean 35,000 odd standing outside  :shutup:

 :sleep:
True the ground capacity is 45,000, however if that AFL preliminary between West Coast & Melbourne had been held at the MCG they would have got 85,000 +

Why would not the NRL hold  that preliminary final in a ground with greater capacity  if they thought they would get more ?

45,000 would attend any  game at the MCG in the home & away season, let alone a preliminary final
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-23, 07:44 AM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?

Bump
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-23, 09:58 AM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?

Yes, they are just not good enough to progress deep into the AFL finals, however with the support they get in Western Sydney ultimate success is just around the corner. :no1:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-23, 10:03 AM
Yes, they are just not good enough to progress deep into the AFL finals, however with the support they get in Western Sydney ultimate success is just around the corner. :no1:

Support?

Can you tell me their crowds at home for their past 6 rounds?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-23, 11:21 AM
True the ground capacity is 45,000, however if that AFL preliminary between West Coast & Melbourne had been held at the MCG they would have got 85,000 +

Why would not the NRL hold  that preliminary final in a ground with greater capacity  if they thought they would get more ?

45,000 would attend any  game at the MCG in the home & away season, let alone a preliminary final

Finished cleaning the egg off your  face Bubba?

Anyway, why? Because anyone with a brain would know that would mean playing the game in a stadium that wasn't best suited to NRL viewing. There's a reason they are knocking down ANZ  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:12 AM
Support?

Can you tell me their crowds at home for their past 6 rounds?

 Bubba , any luck in getting those GWS figures?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:44 AM
Here you go bubba, this shows the low crowds at the AFL this year.So embarrassing numbers

Lowest Home & Away Crowds
3722   Gold Coast v North Melbourne   Cazaly's Stadium   2018
6060   Gold Coast v Melbourne   Gabba   2018
6450   Western Bulldogs v Port Adelaide   Eureka Stadium   2018
6833   Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast   Eureka Stadium   2018
6989   Melbourne v Adelaide   Traeger Park   2018
7131   Greater Western Sydney v Gold Coast   Sydney Showground   2018
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Oval   2018
8689   Melbourne v Fremantle   Marrara Oval   2018
9007   Hawthorn v Gold Coast   York Park   2018
9253   Greater Western Sydney v West Coast   Sydney Showground   2018
10046   Greater Western Sydney v Brisbane Lions   Sydney Showground   2018
10181   Gold Coast v St Kilda   Carrara   2018
10454   Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs   Manuka Oval   2018
10689   Gold Coast v Port Adelaide   Jiangwan Stadium   2018
10776   Gold Coast v Carlton   Carrara   2018
10789   Greater Western Sydney v Essendon   Sydney Showground   2018
10866   Greater Western Sydney v Hawthorn   Sydney Showground   2018
11176   North Melbourne v West Coast   Bellerive Oval   2018
11267   Brisbane Lions v Greater Western Sydney   Gabba   2018
11356   Greater Western Sydney v Fremantle   Manuka Oval   2018
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:47 AM

Melbourne Clubs

6450   Western Bulldogs v Port Adelaide   Eureka Stadium   2018
6833   Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast   Eureka Stadium   2018
6989   Melbourne v Adelaide   Traeger Park   2018
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Ov 2018
8689   Melbourne v Fremantle   Marrara Oval   2018
9007   Hawthorn v Gold Coast   York Park   2018
11176   North Melbourne v West Coast   Bellerive Oval   2018
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:50 AM
GWS 2018 sad reading

7131   Greater Western Sydney v Gold Coast   Sydney Showground
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Oval   
9253   Greater Western Sydney v West Coast   Sydney Showground   
10046   Greater Western Sydney v Brisbane Lions   Sydney Showground   
10454   Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs   Manuka Oval
10789   Greater Western Sydney v Essendon   Sydney Showground
10866   Greater Western Sydney v Hawthorn   Sydney Showground   
11356   Greater Western Sydney v Fremantle   Manuka Oval   2018
Sat 30-Jun-2018 7:25 PM Att: 10,866 Venue: Sydney Showground VS Sydney Swans
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-24, 02:20 PM
Wow, have a look at some of the attendances at NRL games this year, and I cannot see a fledgling club in that list, like GWS

5135   Gold Coast Titans v Manly

5715   Manly v Newcastle

6134   Manly v Penrith

6158   Parramatta v Gold Coast Titans

6172   Manly v North Queensland

6382   Manly v Gold Coast Titans

6434   Canterbury v Brisbane

6874   Canterbury v Gold Coast Titans

6933   St George Illawarra v Parramatta

7195   Souths v North Queensland

7297   Gold Coast Titans v St George Illawarra

7662   Canberra v Penrith

7719   Parramatta v Newcastle

7846   Manly v Canterbury

8047   Parramatta v Souths

8163   Wests Tigers v Manly

8393   Parramatta v North Queensland

8437   Parramatta v Canterbury

8962   St George Illawarra v Canberra

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 02:58 PM
So what do you make of the poor crowds for both AFL and NRL in Sydney?
Why is it so?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-24, 07:23 PM
Too many people prefer the Gay Mardi Gras or prefer boating on The Harbour :shy:  Then again they might just like to get out of Sydney.

With wall-to -wall promotion throughout Australia  they are hoping to get  40,000 to The Everest meeting at Randwick on 13 October, If they only got 40,000 at any day of Cup Week at Flemington there would be a Royal Commission.

To quote Peter V'Landys "“Thirty-five percent of the audience at the Melbourne Cup come from New South Wales. They should be staying here in Sydney, not going to that dreary, smelly Yarra River."

Dreary and smelly Yarra River ? Mr V'Landys you will have to do better than that. Melbourne must have something going for it. 2.4 million attended home and away games at the MCG  during the 2018 AFL season,The Australian Tennis Open , Cup Week at Flemington and the Australian Grand Prix, all are within walking distance of the Yarra River, each attract hundreds of thousands each year,
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-24, 10:56 PM
Again anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to be on track if they had 40k at Randwick  :no:

Unless you were swinging from the trees down Alison Rd  :chin:  :shutup:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 07:24 AM
I was hoodwinked into going doing to Melbourne for the cup a few years back.
Arrived for Derby day, due to the size of the crowd I missed getting a bet on the first 3 races, couldn’t get beer or anything to eat due to the queues.
Couldn’t even see a race live.
Needless to say Cup day was spent at some dingy pub and was far more enjoyable  8-)
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:27 AM
WOD, sorry that your experience of Derby Day, was unpleasant, at least you have filled in one of your bucket list of things to do......,experience Cup Week
Why don't you get down for the Australian Open Tennis, when you will not have to spend an afternoon in a dingy pub  ?
BTW what sporting event in Sydney should I put on my bucket list ?


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:33 AM
Again anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to be on track if they had 40k at Randwick  :no:

Unless you were swinging from the trees down Alison Rd  :chin:  :shutup:

I do not know how Randwick racetrack is configured today to how it was the past, but on Easter Saturday in 1922 they got 92,300 and 82,500 again in 1944.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 08:36 AM

BTW what sporting event in Sydney should I put on my bucket list ?

Certainly not a GWS game
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:45 AM
Certainly not a GWS game
Surely you are not suggesting I watch something like the start of the Sydney-Hobart Boat Race or Manly play Penrith, where they got 6134 to a game this year ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 10:21 AM
Surely you are not suggesting I watch something like the start of the Sydney-Hobart Boat Race or Manly play Penrith, where they got 6134 to a game this year ?

Well yes, NRL is a better game. Thats why more people watch it.

Now, im not sure why Sydney is against going to sporting events.  There's probably a million reasons each adding to the big picture.
Its probably culturally driven
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-25, 11:01 AM
I do not know how Randwick racetrack is configured today to how it was the past, but on Easter Saturday in 1922 they got 92,300 and 82,500 again in 1944.

My word, you're much older than I thought you were  :whistle:

Would have been hard for you to get a drink in those days  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 11:37 AM
Yes I expect a letter in the mail from Her Majesty QE2 if I can hang on a little longer.  :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 11:39 AM
Well yes, NRL is a better game. Thats why more people watch it.

Now, im not sure why Sydney is against going to sporting events.  There's probably a million reasons each adding to the big picture.
Its probably culturally driven

Does the Gay Mardi Gras get the largest attendance of any event in Sin City ?

Over the two weeks of the festival  I believe 1.2 million went last year, that equals the number of attendees at Etihad Stadium for the entire AFL season.

Are those attendees at the GMG likely to watch NRL games ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 01:24 PM
Bubba, you sound a touch homophobic  :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 02:42 PM
WOD, you implied the reason in Sydney do not attend sporting events could be down to culturally driven. I asked whether those who attend the Gay Mardi Gras would attend the NRL,

NRL and GMG would appear to be cultures apart.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 04:33 PM
AFL has all of its support in the Mardi Gras heartland of the inner west
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 05:20 PM
That is interesting as  I am not sure what team that collective of people support in Melbourne, however I am sure each team in the AFL has its fair share of feral supporters, they mostly sit behind the goals waving flags and floggers. No doubt most NRL teams also have their share as I am sure all codes of football attract more ferals than say, polo or golf crowds.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 05:23 PM
I actually go to the polo, golf and NRL :thumbsup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-26, 12:27 PM
Strange that there is no mention of 'that shoulder charge'

My prediction yesterday was that even though it could not be construed as anything other than a s-c (except by a barrister) . . Slater would play

Slater's action was not malicious, and it was a great try saver . .  but it WAS a shoulder charge . . and they are ILLEGAL . . in most cases  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: nemisis on 2018-Sep-26, 12:51 PM
That's why I prefer rugby union.........the rules are enforced all of the time.

In union that would be a penalty try and Slater would be yellow carded.

Why wasn't it a penalty try at least?......Slater was the last line of defence.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-26, 05:22 PM
Saint Billy lives again, what a joke. How the panel swallowed that pile of dog $hit of a defence from Slater is unbelievable. Actually, no it's not. They were looking for the slightest sliver of evidence to justify letting him off and they got it with the pec muscle making contact first defence. Seriously??? And how the hell can they accept he was trying to wrap his arms around him is simply unfathomable. And what the hell does it matter if he studies how players score tries? He had no other option? Bull$hit. He tucked his arm a good 2 metres before he hit Feki. That panel should hang their heads in shame.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-26, 06:50 PM
Channel 9 would have insisted their $1 billion investment be protected, especially the advertising dollars out of Victoria.

Game is as corrupt as it has been for the past 20 years or so when we had "the war".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-26, 08:16 PM
They had to let slater off to even it up for Jake Friend not being done for his tackle  on Inglis
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: timw on 2018-Sep-26, 09:01 PM
If billy slater bumped like that in the AFL no one would think anything of it.  There are very few bumps like that in the afl these days because of the risk the player with the ball will ride the bump losing the player applying the bump so most tacklers wrap arms to take the player to the ground which can be dangerous especially if the ground is rock hard.  Are NRL players getting soft ? 

cheers
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-26, 09:13 PM
In any AFL game unless that type of shoulder charge made contact with a player’s head, nothing would be made of it, however if a player in AFL was tackled around the neck or gang tackled below the knees , which is acceptable in NRL, it would be free kick and could result in being charged. It is of interest what is considered reportable in NRL is just a bump in AFL, yet what is considered rough play in AFL is acceptable in NRL,
Strange world , different rules for two different contact sports.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-26, 09:53 PM
If they pinged Slater for that we may as well give up the idea of contact sports altogether and all go and play Soccer where we could give a theatre performance every time we broke a finger nail.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-27, 07:55 AM
Nothing to do with the degrees toughness of the players or of the codes . .

All about a rule being a rule . . or not being a rule

But as Kicker pointed out it was apparently a 'Pectoral Muscle Charge' which is perfectly kosher

And if all the whinging armchair experts out there put a purple patch over one eye and watched it frame by frame . .

Anyway, I am led to believe that the match officials for the G.F have been ordered to watch the clip 3 times a day between now and Sunday . . so that they will be au fait with recognising the "Pectoral Charge" should a 'couple' occur during the course of the match  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-27, 08:02 AM
Channel 9 would have insisted their $1 billion investment be protected, especially the advertising dollars out of Victoria.

Game is as corrupt as it has been for the past 20 years or so when we had "the war".

GO Storm  :no1:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-27, 08:24 AM
They had to let slater off to even it up for Jake Friend not being done for his tackle  on Inglis

Inglis was up to his usual trick there, does it all the time. If someone grabs his leg when he's held up in a tackle he purposely tips himself over. You only have to look at how often he gets himself in that position to know he has more to do with it than the tackler.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-27, 05:33 PM
If they pinged Slater for that we may as well give up the idea of contact sports altogether and all go and play Soccer where we could give a theatre performance every time we broke a finger nail.

Tell that to the family of the Qld player no longer with us  :shutup:

Simple fact is that's the rules. Nothing to do with being soft. You need to abide by the rules. The NRL has now made a rod for it's own back by allowing Slater off.

What happens this week Nappa cleans up someone with a shoulder? Fun times ahead  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-27, 08:15 PM
That comment is highly offensive. To suggest all shoulder charges display the same degree of intent, malice or consequences shows  a minimal level of understanding of the sport. I played Rugby League from the age of six and know very well that there is a huge difference between an SBW shoulder charge and what we saw from Slater. Fullbacks in the last line of defence have been doing same for one hundred years. And guess what . Outside backs and wingers have been expecting it ! There is a huge difference in what Slater did and lining a bloke up for a cheap shot as happened in your example in Queensland  ; or even as you say with the Rooster's forward.
I also don't back away from the fact that when you make a decision to play a contact sport ( or even say a track work rider or jockey ) you know there exist inherent risks to your own safety. They are the risks you decide are worth taking.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Sep-27, 09:28 PM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.   :lol:

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: ratsack on 2018-Sep-27, 10:10 PM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.    :lol:  

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.

billy didn't train much today as the last few days have been very stressful  lol   
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 07:55 AM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.   :lol:

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.


#2 Gary Jack
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 09:50 AM
That comment is highly offensive. To suggest all shoulder charges display the same degree of intent, malice or consequences shows  a minimal level of understanding of the sport. I played Rugby League from the age of six and know very well that there is a huge difference between an SBW shoulder charge and what we saw from Slater. Fullbacks in the last line of defence have been doing same for one hundred years. And guess what . Outside backs and wingers have been expecting it ! There is a huge difference in what Slater did and lining a bloke up for a cheap shot as happened in your example in Queensland  ; or even as you say with the Rooster's forward.
I also don't back away from the fact that when you make a decision to play a contact sport ( or even say a track work rider or jockey ) you know there exist inherent risks to your own safety. They are the risks you decide are worth taking.

and all that is totally irrelevant to the discussion which shows you missed the point. What we think or did years ago doesn't matter.

The shoulder charge is banned - simple.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-28, 10:29 AM
Just to lighten things up a little . .

NRL and GMG would appear to be cultures apart.

Been a couple of 'gay' NRL players . .



In fact up this way, there was a partnership of League players; one of whom had real talent and was invited to trial with a Sydney team

On the evening after the trial the northern boy telephoned to find out how things went

"Not sure," was the reply. "They pulled me off at half-time."

"Well they are certainly progressive down there . . we're still getting oranges up here!"
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 08:25 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 08:33 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.

Gun, I’m not sure that Gin is disagreeing with you on that.
I suspect he’s say8ng the NRL put the rule in and under the rule, he’s guilty
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 08:43 PM
Yes ,but it is a stupid rule and the judiciary recognized it is such. All Courts ,Courts of Appeal ,Tribunals etc etc in this Country have the right to interpret the rules as implemented by lawmakers as they see fit. Thankfully they did. It is Rugby League for Heavens sake not some sisssy  round ball game !
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 08:52 PM
Totally agree mate but I suspect because it was billy was the reason.
Rest assured, if that was Sammy Burgess, Napa, a Simms or many others, they would not have gone that way
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 10:14 PM
I don't doubt for a moment that Billy probably got a softer run than someone like Napa might have Probably entitled to !  Bit like comparing Robert Thompson to Miracle Mal in his heyday.  However I still think the rule is a dumb one. Compare the  danger Slater put the opposing player in , as opposed to Finch's latest effort. I know which one I would rather have copped.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 11:26 PM

I suspect he’s say8ng the NRL put the rule in and under the rule, he’s guilty

 :bulb: Glad the light bulb is on for some Wily.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 11:28 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.

You still just don't get it, what you or I think is irrelevant  :bulb: it's the current rule.

What you played by in the deep dark past doesn't matter, the rules are different now ....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Sep-29, 09:08 AM
The way the rule previously has been applied he should have been outed for the Grand Final.

I don't like how it previously has been applied because I don't regard that sort of tackle as a "shoulder charge".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-29, 09:29 AM
Agree
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-29, 10:00 AM
Plainly it was a pectoral muscle charge . .

Even the 'Three Blind Mice' could see that
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-29, 04:24 PM
The way the rule previously has been applied he should have been outed for the Grand Final.

I don't like how it previously has been applied because I don't regard that sort of tackle as a "shoulder charge".

  emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-30, 10:39 PM
Cronk, Keary guide Roosters to grand final glory

Cooper Cronk was brought to the Sydney Roosters to win a premiership and, on Sunday night – with one arm dangling uselessly by his side – he did just that.

He came and he delivered, albeit barely able to lift the same trophy he did in opposition colours 12 months ago.

Cronk helped destroy his old club's hopes of becoming the first team in 25 years to win back-to-back titles as the Roosters celebrated a 21-6 victory inspired by the performance of five-eighth Luke Keary.

For the best part of a week the rugby league universe revolved around the shoulders of two of the sport's biggest names.

On Tuesday night one shoulder, that of retiring legend Billy Slater, was controversially cleared to take part in the decider.

The other, that of Cronk's, was shrouded with the type of secrecy that has become synonymous with every significant decision in the halfback's career.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/09/30/luke-keary-stars-as-sydney-roosters-dominate-melbourne-storm-in-2018-grand-final/

Stunning first 40 minutes   emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Oct-01, 08:39 AM

#2 Gary Jack

#3 Cameron Munster
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 05:25 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?

If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 05:53 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?

If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.

Wally Lewis was booed as Australian Captain at the SCG back in his day. Disgraceful really.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 05:53 PM
If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.

Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

You will have never have heard Cronk booed in his career despite being tied 100% to and as good a player in his position as Slater and Smith.

Perhaps there's several reasons why.  ;)

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 05:57 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

I think that is way over stated.

What Cameron Munster did to be sin binned in the last few minutes was disgraceful but it would have struggled to scare a fly of your nose in the damage it would have caused.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 06:00 PM
As for the game. Hargraves' first half was a good a prop performance as I've seen in the year. Set the tone.

Also on the roosters Victor Radley is going to be a star. All year he impressed me. Hit's like a truck at times in defense but he got better in attacks the year went on. I do like him.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 06:32 PM
The feud between Cooper Cronk and Cameron  Smith was no more apparent than after the game, when Cronk went out of his way and shook hands with every Melbourne Storm player other than Cameron Smith.

Must be personal. :shy: :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 06:39 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.



Was not the shoulder charge rule introduced because Greg Inglis lined up Dean Young in 2012..nothing to do with Slater.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:40 PM
The feud between Cooper Cronk and Cameron  Smith was no more apparent than after the game, when Cronk went out of his way and shook hands with every Melbourne Storm player other than Cameron Smith.

Must be personal. :shy: :shy:

I thought during the game they might have patched things up, Cronk grabbed Smith by neck in a choking fashion om the ground and Smith came out of it laughing, I thought at the time it was friendly banter.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Oct-01, 06:42 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:43 PM
Was not the shoulder charge rule introduced because Greg Inglis lined up Dean Young in 2012..nothing to do with Slater.

They changed the rules about the way players come in feet/studs first "trying" to kick the ball out of the try scorers grasp.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:44 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.

I could not care less about the punters.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Peter Mair on 2018-Oct-01, 06:55 PM


Did some stormer put a deliberate late shoulder charge on a handicapped CK?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:07 PM
I could not care less about the punters.

You may not care about punters , however the NRL and some teams have got into bed with corporate bookies, surely that is a conflict of interest when one team sets out to deceive the punting public.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:11 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

You will have never have heard Cronk booed in his career despite being tied 100% to and as good a player in his position as Slater and Smith.

Perhaps there's several reasons why.  ;)

Spot on Ara, nothing to do with Melb or Qld, the fact is he's considered a shit bloke. Doesn't matter how good a player he is and Munster is heading that way too.

More laughable was Smith says Slater deserved more respect   :lol:  Respect is earned, not demanded.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:23 PM
Spot on Ara, nothing to do with Melb or Qld, the fact is he's considered a shit bloke. Doesn't matter how good a player he is and Munster is heading that way too.

More laughable was Smith says Slater deserved more respect       :lol:      Respect is earned, not demanded.

Don't know where your head has been in the sand the past 15 years, you should get down to Melbourne or up to Queensland to see how respected Slater is in the general community. Not many rugby league players, other than Cameron Smith, could walk up Collins St in the CBD and command the respect of the average Melburnian.  If he rolled up at any AFL final at the MCG he would raise the rafters.

Do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 07:24 PM
Greg Inglis has created a monumental drama.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 07:31 PM
Had to celebrate being named Aussie Captain.   :biggrin:

But quite an effort to attempt to drive from Dubbo to the City while speeding and drunk. Got as far a Lithgow without killing anyone at least until nabbed.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:33 PM
Don't know where your head has been in the sand the past 15 years, you should get down to Melbourne or up to Queensland to see how respected Slater is in the general community. Not many rugby league players, other than Cameron Smith, could walk up Collins St in the CBD and command the respect of the average Melburnian.  If he rolled up at any AFL final at the MCG he would raise the rafters.

Last 15 years? Following RL  :whistle:

Maybe you should too Bubba  ;) you might realise how silly you sound.

Try asking the average joe rugby league follower what they think of Slater, to a man you'll get - amazing talent, grubby player.  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:37 PM
Kangaroos captain Greg Inglis charged with drink driving

NEWLY appointed Kangaroos skipper and South Sydney Rabbitohs superstar Greg Inglis has been caught drink driving.

news.com.au October 1, 20187:29pm



NEWLY appointed Kangaroos skipper and South Sydney Rabbitohs superstar Greg Inglis has allegedly been caught drink driving.

The 31-year-old was driving back from the Koori knockout round in Dubbo on Monday afternoon when he was pulled over by police.

The news came hours after Inglis was named Australia’s captain over Roosters star Boyd Cordner to take on Tonga.

“At 2.15pm today, officers attached to the traffic and highway patrol command were conducting stationary speed enforcement on the Great Western Highway at Lithgow detected a black Mercedes Benz travelling above the speed limit,” a NSW Police spokesperson told news.com.au.

He was arrested and taken to Lithgow Police Station where he underwent a breath analysis which allegedly returned a result of 0.085.

He was issued a field court attendance enotice for midrange drink driving and a traffic infringement norice for exceed speed limit.

His licence was suspended and he is due to appear in Lithgow local court on November 2nd.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:39 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?


What about Melbourne crowds and Shane Dye  :what:

Maybe they aren't so perfect after all  :nowink:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:45 PM
What about Melbourne crowds and Shane Dye  :what:

Maybe they aren't so perfect after all  :nowink:

Veandercross ?, I do not think he copped much, except from those who backed it.
BTW was Dye a champion or just a good rider ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:47 PM
Last 15 years? Following RL  :whistle:

Maybe you should too Bubba  ;) you might realise how silly you sound.

Try asking the average joe rugby league follower what they think of Slater, to a man you'll get - amazing talent, grubby player.  emthdown
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:48 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.

Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 07:49 PM
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.

I am not at all impressed with the booing of Slater but I am curious what you thought of the booing of Adam Goodes ?

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:52 PM
Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:

Wow those last two paragraphs  :shy: :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:52 PM
Veandercross ?, I do not think he copped much, except from those who backed it.
BTW was Dye a champion or just a good rider ?

They booed him for yeas and years and it got to the stage in the end that the culture was such in Melbourne that I'm sure most of those booing didn't even know what they were booing him for.

Please do not offer up platitudes about how well behaved Melbourne crowds are and how evil the Sydney ones are when there is a glaring counter example right under your nose.

So what are you going to say next. It was OK to boo Shane Dye year after year because he may have not been a champion (I think he was) but it was not OK to boo Billy Slater because he was a champion??? Is that what you are honestly saying  :what:

Gimme a break mate.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:58 PM
I am not at all impressed with the booing of Slater but I am curious what you thought of the booing of Adam Goodes ?
At that time there was a lot of discussion on Goodes on The Soap Box,..I refer you to that thread.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 08:01 PM
Wow those last two paragraphs  :shy: :shy:

Google cranston ato -

According to police documents, genuine wages from legitimate employers were siphoned through Plutus into a series of tier-two companies manned by straw directors.

The syndicate allegedly kept some of the pay-as-you-go withholding tax and superannuation that should have been passed on to the ATO in these tier-two companies.

https://www.afr.com/business/legal/former-ato-deputy-commissioner-michael-cranston-to-face-trial-in-early-2019-20180308-h0x8p3

Never mind Royal Commissions into Banks and Aged Care.

There should be a Royal Commission into the ATO as well as one into politicians themselves and the way they have scammed society.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 08:03 PM
They booed him for yeas and years and it got to the stage in the end that the culture was such in Melbourne that I'm sure most of those booing didn't even know what they were booing him for.



He was not booed for yeas ( sic ) and years, it was a topic of conversation about who should have won that controversial  Caulfield Cup...no more no less
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Oct-01, 08:20 PM
Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:

Regardless of what was asked of the Roosters, they always made out they did not know if Cronk was playing or not including himself.

That is the lie. I don’t think anyone doubts he had a severe shoulder injury knowing his career achievements and watching play wounded against Souths.

NRL had gone to bed with the bookies including allowing them to sponsor teams etc. That is an issue for another day. However the hypocrisy is that they want media to be positive but yet allow teams to mislead the public.

I was unaware of Rothfields relationship regarding the Roosters so I will take your word for it.

Roosters were the better team and I believe they can create a dynasty and Robinson could be a Bennett and Bellamy legendary coach in the future as he has now won two and a team capable of winning double that win n total.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 08:43 PM
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.

 :what: You asked where I'd been for 15 years, as I said following RL.

You should try reading what's written Bubba  ;) No one has questioned his ability  :nowink:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 09:03 PM
Gintara,  you accuse Billy Slater of being a shit bloke , do you have any comment that...
I do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 09:10 PM
At that time there was a lot of discussion on Goodes on The Soap Box,..I refer you to that thread.
I cannot find the thread Bubba.

Can you remind us? Were you in favour of allowing crowds to boo Adam Goodes? I have a feeling that you were  :dry:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 08:00 AM
MELBOURNE Storm icons Billy Slater and Cameron Smith will be immortalised with statues at AAMI Park.

The government and Storm-funded venture was announced yesterday at Gosch’s Paddock in front of hundreds of fans welcoming back the grand final team.

“I’m really proud of the contribution that I’ve made to rugby league in this state and to have a statue of Cameron and myself out the front of AAMI Park is something that I’m really proud of,” the now retired Slater said.

“My kids will be able to grow up in this town and see their dad and what their dad’s done for our game in this state. “Excited to see what it looks like, but it will be good.”

Slater yesterday flatly ruled out any backflip on retirement, content to be stepping down after 319 NRL appearances.

Despite the grand final loss to the Roosters and a firm belief he could play on, Slater, 35, is excited about life after football. “No. No. I’m done. It’s my time,” Slater said. “I have no doubt that I could play another year but I’ve had my fair share of serious injuries and to be able to walk away from the game healthy and fit I see it as a great opportunity. I’ve achieved everything that I’ve set out to do and if I went on it’d be purely just to play, and that’s OK, but for me it’s time.”

Slater’s success includes two premierships (2012, ’17), two Clive Churchill Medals and Golden Boot and Dally M awards. He played 31 Origins for Queensland and 30 Tests for Australia.

Slater signed off with another strong effort in his seventh grand final since 2006, amassing 134m in his swansong. Although booed mercilessly during the grand final, he laughed off the reception.

“You play at away grounds and they’re passionate supporters,” Slater said.

“If Wally Lewis can cop boos (then) I’ll be OK with it.”

He also stopped short of adding to the impasse between Cameron Smith and Storm.

Smith dropped the bombshell last week that he had considered retiring this season.

While Slater expects Smith to play on, he won’t be putting any pressure on him. “Who am I to tell Cameron Smith what to do with his life,” he said.

Not a bad recognition for a shit bloke  :clap2: :clap2:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 08:35 AM
I cannot find the thread Bubba.

Can you remind us? Were you in favour of allowing crowds to boo Adam Goodes? I have a feeling that you were  :dry:

I cannot find it either, I cannot recall what my feelings were, it was 3 years ago. The debate was about whether he was booed for abusing a young girl or because he played for the Sydney Swans.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-02, 09:29 AM
Gintara,  you accuse Billy Slater of being a shit bloke , do you have any comment that...
I do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.

Like I've said numerous times Bubba, if you followed and understood the game, you'd know what I mean.  :bulb:

As for your 2nd part, that's all irrelevant as it has nothing to do with how he played the game ..... which is what I've been saying all along  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 10:42 AM
Like I've said numerous times Bubba, if you followed and understood the game, you'd know what I mean.  :bulb:

As for your 2nd part, that's all irrelevant as it has nothing to do with how he played the game ..... which is what I've been saying all along  :whistle:
I judge a person how they are in the "real world", not how they perform on the sporting field.

Many great players, in all sports , once they leave the sporting arena, are complete arse holes, whereas those that have 'white line fever" are placid and model citizens away from their sport.

If, in your eyes, Slater was a shit bloke, I presume you meant on the sporting field, not in the "real world"

What did you think of G Langlands as a player ,an "immortal " yet since his recent death it has been alleged  he was a somewhat lesser person ?

I could name many champion players in AFL , who played by the rules, never were reported , yet in their AFL after life have been charged with criminal offences., and others who continually were reported have proven to be model citizens

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-02, 11:29 AM
Rest assured Bubba there is just as many “shit blokes” playing AFL
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-02, 11:42 AM
Rest assured Bubba there is just as many “shit blokes” playing AFL

They seem so much more intelligent.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Oct-02, 03:49 PM
I cannot find it either, I cannot recall what my feelings were, it was 3 years ago. The debate was about whether he was booed for abusing a young girl or because he played for the Sydney Swans.

Bubba, you and me are normally on the same wavelength but mate you are off the mark here. Slater deserved everything he copped on Sunday night. He might be a wonderful family man and all that off the field and as brilliant a footballer that he is, some of the stuff he has done on the field over the years is despicable. Someone told me the other day, last week was the 9th time he has fronted the judiciary and escaped charges. 9 TIMES! The absolute greats of the game wouldn't know where the judiciary hearings were held.


Most fans quite rightly thought that, once again, he was given preferential treatment last week and they considered this the last straw for a serial offender. Hence all the booing. The same thing happens at the AFL every time someone gets away with a cheap shot.


BTW, this is what you had to say about Goodes after his war dance against Carlton...


« 2015-May-30, 07:29 PM Reply #14 »

If really wanted to celebrate kicking a goal, why did he not do it in front of Swans supporters, instead of rubbing it up the noses of Carlton supporters ?
Is it any wonder he gets booed at each game he plays outside of Sydney.Only during the week he was complaining as to why he keeps getting booed when he plays interstate.

As token Australian of the Year,staging for free kicks, complaining about a 13 yo abusing him at a game, and bleating about indigenous issues have not gone down well in the football community.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-02, 04:54 PM
I judge a person how they are in the "real world", not how they perform on the sporting field.

Many great players, in all sports , once they leave the sporting arena, are complete arse holes, whereas those that have 'white line fever" are placid and model citizens away from their sport.

If, in your eyes, Slater was a shit bloke, I presume you meant on the sporting field, not in the "real world"

What did you think of G Langlands as a player ,an "immortal " yet since his recent death it has been alleged  he was a somewhat lesser person ?




Lol nice duck & weave  emthdown You knew what we were talking about yet know you're waffling about 'real world'.

As for Langlands, I was 5 when he retired  :shy: pretty sure my dad took me to the old Sydney Sports Stadium (where Allianz is about to get knocked down) to see a match between the Roosters & Saints when he played but the memory isn't that good  :shrug:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-02, 06:39 PM
So Inglis refused to step down from the Australian Captaincy himself and needed to get a suspension for it to be taken off him.  :shrug:

Some good advice he received there.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 06:41 PM

Ignore
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 06:43 PM
Bubba, you and me are normally on the same wavelength but mate you are off the mark here. Slater deserved everything he copped on Sunday night. He might be a wonderful family man and all that off the field and as brilliant a footballer that he is, some of the stuff he has done on the field over the years is despicable. Someone told me the other day, last week was the 9th time he has fronted the judiciary and escaped charges. 9 TIMES! The absolute greats of the game wouldn't know where the judiciary hearings were held.


Most fans quite rightly thought that, once again, he was given preferential treatment last week and they considered this the last straw for a serial offender. Hence all the booing. The same thing happens at the AFL every time someone gets away with a cheap shot.


BTW, this is what you had to say about Goodes after his war dance against Carlton...


« 2015-May-30, 07:29 PM Reply #14 »

If really wanted to celebrate kicking a goal, why did he not do it in front of Swans supporters, instead of rubbing it up the noses of Carlton supporters ?
Is it any wonder he gets booed at each game he plays outside of Sydney.Only during the week he was complaining as to why he keeps getting booed when he plays interstate.

As token Australian of the Year,staging for free kicks, complaining about a 13 yo abusing him at a game, and bleating about indigenous issues have not gone down well in the football community.

In that post I attempted to explain why Goodes got booed, Was it that as AOTY he was a token pick, or did his abuse of a 13 year old girl count against him or was it his staging for free kicks or did he rub up the noses of opposition supporters  when celebrating a goal? I did not know nor still do not know why. Maybe it was a combination of all , I don't know and doubt if I ever will.

BTW I tried to goggle the number of times Slater faced the NRL judiciary and could not ascertain the answer. Are you able to verify it was nine times and was cleared every time. If that is the case he was NOT guilty, so why the concern ? A man is innocent unless proven guilty, so how is he  a serial offender,  but more like a serial attendee .
Was he ever rubbed out ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Oct-02, 08:10 PM
Billy the'kid' must be a nice fella . . He is a North Queenslander . . .

But, alas, I fear that during his brilliant career, he must have suffered too many head-knocks; after reading that in his retirement, he has no intentions of returning to the "Promised Land'  :huh:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-03, 09:04 PM
Billy the'kid' must be a nice fella . . He is a North Queenslander . . .

But, alas, I fear that during his brilliant career, he must have suffered too many head-knocks; after reading that in his retirement, he has no intentions of returning to the "Promised Land'  :huh:

Think I read he's buying or brought a horse property down the Mornington Peninsula? 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-18, 07:15 AM
More accolades and recognition for Billy Slater....

BILLY SLATER will deliver the Caulfield Cup trophy on Saturday in a new tradition for the Melbourne Racing Club’s premier race day.

Each year a high-profile Australian who has achieved greatness in their field will be invited to participate in pre-race proceedings. Slater will hand the Cup to Channel 7’s racing doyen BRUCE MCAVANEY.

“This will be exciting, I love my thoroughbreds and that’s no secret,’’ said Slater, the recently retired Melbourne Storm star.

“The Spring Carnival is something else and it’s a special time of year to be in Melbourne.”

Slater was the special guest at yesterday’s Blue Sapphire Stakes Day’s Might and Power Sporting lunch at Caulfield racecourse.

He has just switched codes, joining footy club St Kilda as a parttime leadership coach.

“I’m really excited about the role,’’ he said. “It’s new for me but it won’t be anything new I’m talking about.

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:25 AM

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”


He can teach them how to pick up a lose ball in the ground instead of the constant fumbles that go on
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-18, 07:32 AM

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”


He can teach them how to pick up a lose ball in the ground instead of the constant fumbles that go on

What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-18, 07:34 AM
What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....

  :lol:

Was waiting for someone to say that.

Up the Roosters   emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:36 AM
What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....

Oh, he can do that as well   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:36 AM
Looking forward to the test match this week. Will be a cracker
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Oct-26, 12:31 PM
End of the line for a boy from Ipswich

(https://i.postimg.cc/1nJxZ7D6/image-walters.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1nJxZ7D6)
 
ROBERT CRADDOCK
COMMENT
 
IN THE end it was like one of those kids birthday parties where there’s a prize for everyone – except for the kid who deserved it most.
Actually Kevin Walters is not a kid any more. He’s 51 and that’s the sad part of the story.
For a decade or more we have dodged writing this sentence but today, with no joy whatsoever, we can say it without fear of contradiction – Kevin Walters will never coach the Broncos.

Lord knows he deserved a crack. In an age of diminished club loyalty, Walters’ raw hunger for the Broncos job stood out like Steve Waugh’s love of the baggy green cap.

For some club supporters the sadness of knowing Walters missed out overshadows any sort of anticipation at looking forward to the arrival of Seibold, heralded as league’s new coaching genius on the strength of his one season at Souths.

Walters earned the chance he never got. It’s genuinely sad to see him miss out because nearly every team he has played for or coached has won something and his personality would, at the very least, have galvanised the fan base and the fractured Broncos old boys’ network.

Walters was never going to out-talk the cerebral Seibold in the interview process because he is too humble to be a super salesman. The dressing room, the training paddock and the coach’s box are his natural habitat. The board room is not.

One of the defining sentences of his career was “mate I’m from Ipswich – we don’t have smoke and mirrors up there’’, but he still has a great ability to make players happy and connect with them as people.

Rugby league’s merry-goround will deliver an extraordinary season where Bennett and Seibold know they are swapping positions at the end. It makes for great copy, fascinating duels and intriguing sub-plots – but it also exposes the game for being a shallow circus in which the loyalty of fans is often far greater than the loyalty of many who play or coach it.

B e n n e t t proved that even at 68 he is a force to be reckoned with in the shadowy game of musical mentors.

He was born with a poker face and he kept it to the end.ENDS


Well Bennett is going after next year Siebold is about to replace him and Walters is left out in the cold SHAME.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-26, 01:51 PM
Warriors tell SJ he can look elsewhere and test the market.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-26, 04:13 PM
Thoughts Ara on your new coach?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-26, 06:13 PM
I actually think we've done alright out of Cleary screwing us over.

One thing luckily is from all reports our cap is under control which it wasn't when previous coaches have left.

Maguire can attempt to bring in players if he wants for 2020 without to much restriction.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Devil on 2018-Oct-27, 05:38 AM
No doubt the Tigers have done the best deal.
This blokes is by far the best coach in the game
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-27, 06:11 AM
No doubt the Tigers have done the best deal.
This blokes is by far the best coach in the game

Welcome back devil :thumbsup:

As a bunnies supporter I couldn’t agree with that but he will be good for Wests for a couple of seasons.

He’s a very one dimensional coach and never seems to have a plan B
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 11:38 AM
The Brisbane Broncos coaching debacle is front page today with Anthony Seibold ...the Broncos coach in waiting unleashing on current Broncos coach Wayne Bennett..."You're hurting my kids Wayne" in big bold type on the front page of today's Sunday Mail...it had been indicated that Bennett would go to Souths and Siebold would take over at the Broncos ..until Bennett called a press conference on Thursday and stated his intention is to fulfill his obligations and coach the Broncos next year ..this is not what the brains trust at the clubs want ...they want Siebold not Bennett and apparently both clubs Souths and Broncos agreed to the coaching exchange ...now there is speculation that Bennett's about face gives the Broncos board the opportunity to sack him ...on the grounds he is allegedly in breach of his contract by contacting Souths players and discussing training programs...on the other hand Broncos coaching staff and the players are happy that Bennett has decided to stick to his contract......as an observer looking in it seems to me that the management have mishandled this issue ...looking silly now doing deals and now they re falling over...maybe they should terminate Bennett and install Siebold..and take their chances on Bennett suing them ...after all he'll be picked up by Souths ..Siebold will take over at the Broncos ...and they'll both be well paid.

Giddy Up :beer:   


SM stories that are capable of being reproduced ..


As Wayne knocks on nobody is a winner

PHIL ROTHFIELD
ANALYSIS

ANTHONY Seibold is today speaking on behalf of the rugby league public.

It’s not just him that’s fed up with stubborn old Wayne Bennett – we all are.

His credibility is in question following revelations he has been trying to run two clubs at once.

One day the Broncos, the next day he’s on the phone to Souths players.

For weeks this nonsense has dragged on and been played out publicly.

When it starts affecting personal lives, enough is enough.

The situation with Seibold at the Rabbitohs is obviously untenable.

He has understandably been shut out of all recruitment and almost all football operations.

The Rabbitohs don’t want him and he can appreciate that.

Wayne Bennett is in the same position at the Broncos. They don’t want him but Souths do. He knows that. The honourable thing to do is to quit and move to the Rabbitohs.

Playing around with footballers’ lives in this manner is poor form.

Souths players are wondering why he would sign for 2020 but not want to coach them now.

This rubbish about him staying in Brisbane to honour his contract is ridiculous. He didn’t honour his contract when he walked out on the Newcastle Knights four years ago, leaving the club on the scrapheap. It’s only when it suits him.

The revelations that he has already started contacting South Sydney players is the proof that his position is as untenable as Seibold’s.

And it almost gives the Broncos the ammunition to sack him.

You can’t coach two clubs at once.


I’M STILL KING OF RED HILL
Benny vows to go out with a bang
PETER BADEL
@badel_cmail
 
WAYNE Bennett has declared he is not a spent force and insists he can bury the most toxic coaching saga in Brisbane’s history to lead the Broncos to an emotion-charged premiership next season.
The Broncos launch their 2019 pre-season tomorrow and Bennett opened up to The Sunday Mail about his determination to leave Red Hill with a premiership fairytale.
The 68-year-old has encountered the most stressful off-season of his 40-year coaching career, staving off months of speculation to declare on Friday that he has no interest in a straight swap with Anthony Seibold.
While the drama is far from over with Seibold yesterday venting his frustration, Bennett is looking ahead to a swan song season at Red Hill that could enshrine his legacy, aiming to deliver a seventh title and snap Brisbane’s 13-year premiership drought.
The super coach hasn’t won a premiership since leading the Dragons to glory in 2010 but rubbished suggestions he has lost his mojo, saying he still has the mental and tactical tools to deliver another title.
“I haven’t lost any belief. I’m not doubting myself,” Bennett said as he closes the door on the Seibold saga by launching his 26th season at the Broncos tomorrow.
“There are a lot of coaches out there who have never won an NRL premiership.
“I have won seven. And we were a few seconds away from winning another premiership in 2015 (losing to the Cowboys in extra-time).
“I know what wins premierships. And that’s my job every year – to convince this group of men this is what we have to do to win. We’ve got through a lot of turbulence lately, but I have to get this group of men back together again to get us back to the grand final, all with the same belief, all with the same confidence, all on the same page.
“We have stability in our staff, which is why it was important to get clarity around my future. A season or two can roll by and it (premiership success) doesn’t happen and I accept the pressure builds, but I haven’t lost confidence. I’ve won too many big games, and won too many premierships, to lose faith now.”
Broncos fans are entitled to query the side’s premiership ambitions in the wake of their shocking 48-18 loss to the Dragons in the opening week of the playoffs last season.
Factor in the political hotbed surrounding Bennett’s contractual spat and the loss of hardmen Sam Thaiday and Josh McGuire, exposing a posse of young forwards, and the Broncos face a battle to make the top eight.
But Bennett backed his squad to be legitimate top-four contenders, rating Brisbane’s class of 2019 superior to last season’s outfit.
“The talent is there to win it,” he said.
“That has been built up over the last four years. When I came back in 2015, we had some cleaning up to do with our roster and Peter Nolan (recruitment chief) has done a great job with our list.
“I believe we are as good a chance as anyone. We have the quality of player, so if we stay injury-free, I honestly believe this is our best chance in my time here. We just need to come together as a team.”
While Bennett has delivered the club six premierships, Brisbane have won just one title in the past 18 years. They last lifted the NRL trophy in 2006, and Bennett concedes he is mindful of expectations.
“We don’t have the longest history really, we’re 30 years old,” he said.
“People talk about our drought ... we still haven’t been beaten in an 80-minute grand final. We were beaten in extra time. It’s easy to forget that.
“At the Dragons, it was 31 years since they had won their last premiership and they were a famous club. Look at Parramatta. They won four in the 80s and haven’t won one since. It can get away from you. I feel we are getting closer here.”
We’ve got through a lot of turbulence lately, but I have to get this group of men back together again to get us back to the grand final
WAY N E B E N N E T T



BRONCOS assistant Jason Demetriou has spoken of his relief at keeping his job and says Brisbane players were “elated” when Wayne Bennett declared he was staying at Red Hill.
The implications for ancillary staff such as Demetriou was one critical impediment to Bennett agreeing to an immediate swap with Souths counterpart Anthony Seibold for the 2019 season.
Bennett was locked in delicate talks with Broncos and Souths bosses and made it clear he would not leave until he had clarity on the futures of support staff such as Demetriou and Brisbane high-performance chief Jeremy Hickmans.
Broncos players launch their preseason tomorrow and were resigned to Bennett joining Souths before he called a team meeting on Friday announcing he was staying loyal.
“There is some relief,” Demetriou said.
“With all the media attention, we were unsure what was going on and there was definitely some anxiety.
“But there was a genuine relief in the room when Wayne announced he was staying. The players were elated and they can now look forward and get on with it.
“From a coaching point of view, everything starts ramping up.
“All the plans we have in place can be activated now, myself and the players can’t wait to get on with it and get excited about 2019.
“There was a great mood around the place when we heard Wayne was staying.
“There was an instant lift, so we’re ready to get stuck in now for a big season.”
While Bennett was away in England recently coaching the British national team in a Test series against New Zealand, Demetriou was in Brisbane overseeing the return of the club’s younger players.
Off-contract at the end of next season, Demetriou is tipped to follow Bennett to Souths in 2020, but insists he is keeping his options open, with his preference to be an NRL head coach.
“My priority was always my family and wanting to honour my deal with the Broncos,” he said.
“I have another year here and I always wanted to stick around because I love it at this club.
“The beauty of Wayne staying is we have time to concentrate on next season. My ambition is to be a head coach but this allows me time to see what’s out there and what opportunity arises.”

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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Dec-02, 02:28 PM
Wayne has won.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-02, 03:17 PM
Seibold is a turd. He’s behaved disgracefully
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Dec-02, 03:27 PM
Seibold is a turd. He’s behaved disgracefully

Not sure if has been a disgrace but he has certainly been a sook.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-02, 04:00 PM
A sook,  certainly. He negotiated a contract Mid season to be at the broncos in 2020 and now squealing about not going there tomorrow.
Let him rot on gardening duty  :rant:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Dec-02, 05:00 PM
Looks like he will be there tomorrow . .

WB's been sacked  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 05:34 PM
Brisbane Broncos confirm Wayne Bennett's sacking, Anthony Seibold leaves Souths
Updated about an hour ago


PHOTO: Wayne Bennett will not be coaching the Broncos in the 2019 NRL season. (AAP: Dave Hunt, file photo)

Wayne Bennett's time as Brisbane coach has come to an end, with the Broncos terminating his contract a year early to allow Anthony Seibold to take charge in 2019.

Key points:
The Broncos' decision ends more than a month of uncertainty about who would coach the club in 2019

Anthony Seibold will join the Broncos as Wayne Bennett's replacement on Monday

Wayne Bennett's sacking ends his 25-year association with the Broncos, in which they won six premierships

The Broncos confirmed the decision to sack Bennett this afternoon, only two days after the seven-time premiership coach declared he would see out the final year of his contract next season.

Bennett, who was in charge of the Broncos for 25 seasons across two stints, is set to join South Sydney a year earlier than expected as part of a coach swap between the two clubs.

The Broncos' decision follows Seibold's outburst about having a "gutful" of Bennett's behaviour during the coaching drama, which he said had placed a significant emotional strain on his family.

Seibold will link up with the Broncos on Monday for the opening day of preseason training after being granted an early release from the Rabbitohs, who he was contracted to through to the end of 2019 season.

The Broncos said the terms of Bennett's termination were "confidential".

 Wayne Bennett looks on at a Brisbane Broncos training.
PHOTO: Wayne Bennett was contracted to the Broncos through to the end of the 2019 season. (AAP: Dave Hunt, file photo)

Seibold comes to the Broncos with the reputation as an NRL coach on the rise.

He led the Rabbitohs to the preliminary finals in the 2018 season, an effort that earned him the NRL coach of the year award.

Seibold played in the Broncos' lower grades during the 1990s when Bennett was first grade coach.

He becomes only the fourth coach to take charge of the Broncos.

 Anthony Seibold at South Sydney training at Redfern Oval.

PHOTO: Anthony Seibold was South Sydney coach for only one season. (AAP: Dan Himbrechts)

Bennett leaves his mark on Broncos

Bennett was Brisbane's foundation coach when the club entered the New South Wales Rugby League first grade competition in 1988, prior to winning six premierships with the Broncos.

He won NSWRL premierships with the Broncos in 1992 and 1993, before leading them to the Super League title in 1997.

Bennett then guided the Broncos to NRL premierships in 1998, 2000 and 2006, prior to leaving the club at the end of the 2008 season.

 Darren Lockyer and Wayne Bennett celebrate after the Broncos' grand final win in 2006.

PHOTO: Wayne Bennett (right) and Darren Lockyer celebrate the Broncos' 2006 grand final win. (AAP: Dean Lewins)

His time away from the club between 2009 and 2014 saw him coach St George Illawarra to its 2010 premiership, however he had mixed results with Newcastle during his three seasons with the club (2012-2014).

Bennett returned to the Broncos to replace Anthony Griffin ahead of the 2015 season, in which he guided the club to the grand final.

The Broncos have made a staggering 22 finals series in his 25 seasons as coach.

The Rabbitohs would be the fifth NRL club Bennett has coached, as he has also been in charge of Canberra, St George Illawarra and Newcastle during his decorated career.

Topics: sport, rugby-league, nrl, brisbane-4000, redfern-2016

First posted about 2 hours ago 

ENDS

No Photos we all know what they look like.

Wonder if the players at Red Hill will be happy with this outcome and what about the coaching staff  who were on record today applauding the fact that Bennett would be their coach in 2019........how secure are they ......hopefully all will end well for those involved .......Broncos had to act decisively to end this drama.......cut their lossses......which may or may not ever be divulged.

Giddy Up :beer:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Dec-02, 08:11 PM
Always going to end this way. Bennett wanted to get the sack so they had to pay him out. Blind Freddie could see that . No surprise there. He is after all an old Queensland copper raised in the days when the Queensland Police Force were the absolute masters of making money. Bennett has an easy win over the amateurs at the Broncos.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Dec-02, 08:26 PM
But will they have to pay him out?

Don't they  claim he breached his contract by contacting Johnstone?

 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Dec-02, 08:31 PM
JWH, sorry I can't see why you think he might have breached his contract by this. Let me know your thoughts.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 09:37 PM
This is a turnup Bennett was with his disadvantaged son and switched his phone off ....... White the Broncos CEO tried to contact him several times ..he wanted a face to face meeting ...but eventually sacked him by text and email ...Siebold was in Sydney at the movies .......links to relevant stories in News Ltd papers are the only info available at this time


https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/broncos/wayne-bennetts-family-time-with-disadvantaged-son-interrupted-by-sacking/news-story/6826307242903d7b56d63cb92043161a

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/broncos/why-brisbane-broncos-sacked-wayne-bennett/news-story/48b9772e8b6206b93948a814e026e5b0

"Souths had also been dealing with Bennett on possible signings and the club has not yet appointed an assistant coach to replace David Furner, believing Bennett would bring his own coaching members. It is understood Broncos assistant coach Jason Demetriou will also join Souths.
“I’m really pleased it’s all resolved and that I can join this great club with a free mind, knowing I did the right thing by the fans, staff and players,” Bennett said in a Rabbitohs statement."


Happy Endings all round. :yay:

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Dec-03, 07:03 AM
JWH, sorry I can't see why you think he might have breached his contract by this. Let me know your thoughts.


That's just what I heard.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-03, 07:51 PM
Nobody knows forcertain outside of the parties themselves whether Bennett got a termination payout of his 12 month contract .......today there are pages in the CM with various staff writers expressing their opinions on the deal ......too many to try and repost ...... hereunder are links to two different writers take on the affair from the Brisbane Times both stories were written last night....and the front page of today's CM
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/brisbane-and-souths-get-their-men-but-losers-scattered-everywhere-20181202-p50jr0.html

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/i-did-right-thing-by-fans-bennett-says-his-conscience-is-clear-20181202-p50jrd.html

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Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-04, 10:15 AM
Bennett plays game of ‘run rabbit run’ with Sydney media
MATTHEW BENNS
 
NEW Rabbitohs coach Wayne Bennett jetted into Sydney last night to take over the reins at Redfern Oval.
And in keeping with everything else about his move, things did not go according to plan.
Bennett flew in from Brisbane on a Qantas flight and immediately got into a bizarre game of cat and mouse with waiting media.
After sending an accomplice to scope out where camera crews were staked out he then retired to the Qantas Club lounge to wait things out in relative comfort.
Former prime minister John Howard emerged but Bennett sat tight until arrangements were in place.
After half-an-hour of free Qantas hospitality he sauntered down the escalator and headed back to the exit.
On the way he was accosted by fans who recognised him, shook his hand and posed for selfies with the NRL’s oldest new kid on the block.
Bennett then sent his sidekick for another look around. He returned to report back that the media was keener than ever for a sight of the great man.
In desperation, the camerashy footy boss threw himself on the mercy of QantasLink staff who discussed his dilemma at length.
Eventually an important looking suited airport official and another staff member in a high visibility vest joined him (pictured) and summoned an airport golf buggy for the bashful new South Sydney Rabbitohs coach.
Bennett is 68 so perhaps the walk back along the length of the domestic airport was too much?
He was whipped along the concourse to an anonymous silver door near the Watermark book store and ushered inside.
“Now he is in the walls,” an astonished TV hack cried.
Bennett emerged in a nondescript loading dock where he eventually was picked up by a driver – an hour-and-a-half after he landed.
He is expected to give a press conference in Redfern today where finally fans may hear just what he has planned for his time in Sydney.
Broncos assistant coach Jason Demetriou is understood to be in negotiations with Souths and expected to arrive at Redfern with Bennett this week.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-04, 10:40 AM
Good, bad and the ugly for Bennett

With Wayne Bennett doing his greatest Clint Eastwood impersonation and riding off into the sunset – albeit having been shot in the back once or twice – it’s time to look back on his five best and worst decisions of the past 30 years
THE BEST
LEAVING CANBERRA
RAIDERS (1988)
FOR someone who insisted on honouring his 2019 contract at the Broncos, it is ironic that Bennett had to break a contract to join the start-up club in the first place.
Bennett was tied to the Raiders, who he had cocoached to the 1987 grand final, when Broncos founder Paul Morgan approached him to become the club’s first coach in 1988. “Only Paul Morgan could have convinced me to break a contract,” he said. It was the start of the longest and most successful coaching partnership in the game’s history.
SACKING WALLY LEWIS (1989)
AT THE time it seemed unthinkable and earnt Bennett plenty of flak, but stripping the captaincy from Queensland league royalty King Wally after just two years in the competition proved to be a turning point in the club’s fortunes.
With Lewis leaving at the end of the 1990 season, Bennett had established himself as a major powerbroker and the Broncos won their first premiership two years later.
TAKING BRIAN SMITH
FOR A SPIN (1993)
Going into the 1993 grand final, the Broncos were battered and bruised having come from fifth spot while St George, their opponents for the second straight year, were relatively fresh.
Two days before the game, Bennett was given a copy of Dragons coach Brian Smith’s game notes from the previous year’s decider. Finding them relatively tame, Bennett rewrote them to include harsh and inflammatory descriptions of the Brisbane players, and distributed them to his team. Fired up, the incensed Broncos steamrolled the Dragons to go back-to-back.
PUTTING SHAUN
BERRIGAN TO HOOKER (2006)
DURING his 25 years at the club, Bennett has made dozens of canny positional changes, including Darren Lockyer and Anthony Milford from fullback to five-eighth and Darius Boyd from winger to fullback but none has had the spectacular short-term success of moving centre Shaun Berrigan to hooker late in the 2006 season.
With Michael Ennis injured and fill-in Casey McGuire struggling to adapt, Berrigan revitalised the Broncos attack and was Clive Churchill medallist in the club’s grand final win over Melbourne eight weeks later.
GETTING OUT ON TOP
(2008)
WITH the writing on the wall that his days at the club were numbered, Bennett made a dignified exit from Red Hill.
Issuing a statement that in part said “the Broncos have always believed it is better for a player to leave a year too early than a year too late. I have always believed there should be no exception, even for the coach”, he left with his legacy intact and, won a premiership with the Dragons two years later to enhance his status.
THE WORST
PASSING ON
JOHNATHAN THURSTON (2001)
IN HIS 31 years coaching in the NRL, Wayne Bennett has admitted to just two mistakes.
The biggest was failing to sign a teenage Johnathan Thurston when he had the chance. Admittedly he says it wasn’t entirely his fault, but he does own up to being convinced by others in Broncos management that the future superstar wasn’t the player they needed.
Instead, Thurston was snapped up by the Bulldogs for free before becoming arguably the No.1 player in the game at North Queensland.
LETTING PETERO
CIVONICEVA GO (2007)
CLUB favourite Petero Civoniceva claimed that Bennett had promised him a major pay increase when marquee prop Shane Webcke left the club. When the time came, Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen said there was nothing left under the salary cap.
Petero walked and the club signed Ashton Sims and Joel Clinton for a combined $210,000 more than they had offered Civoniceva. Regardless of the financial machinations, the perception that Bennett had dudded one of the club’s most popular players cast a stain that remains today.
TAKING THE MONEY
(2007)
COMING on top of the Civoniceva debacle, revelations that Bennett had for years been accepting secret payments from billionaire club supporter Ken Talbot did nothing to enhance his standing among certain explayers and non-supporters.
Talbot said the payments, totalling $1 million over 10 years, were to provide financial security for Bennett’s two disabled children but players, who for years had accepted the coach’s reasoning that they should take less pay for the good of the team, were not impressed.
PUTTING SAM THAIDAY TO HOOKER (2018)
THE second mistake that Bennett has owned up to in his long career was playing Sam Thaiday at hooker against the Dragons in Round 1 this year.
With Thaiday completely out of his comfort zone, the Broncos went down 34-12, prompting Bennett to rush the injured Andrew McCullough back into the side. As major errors go, a bungled first-round selection isn’t earth-shattering but the fact that the normally inscrutable Bennett admitted to screwing up made it headline news around the country.
COMING BACK TO THE BRONCOS (2015)
BUT for a last-second try and an extra-time knock-on, Wayne Bennett’s second coming could have been the greatest comeback since Elvis.
Instead, with the Cowboys snatching the premiership that Broncos fans believed only Bennett could deliver, it has all ended in tears over the past few months.
Wayne Bennett is a nondrinker, non-smoker and nongambler but even he would be aware of the Kenny Rogers song that goes: “You’ve got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em; know when to walk away, know when to run.” His first exit was perfect. Recent events suggest he should have left it that way.

Benny won’t sue Brisbane
PETER BADEL TRAVIS MEYN
WAYNE Bennett has ruled out legal action against the Broncos after learning of his sacking on social media.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Bennett will receive an estimated payout of $300,000 related to his image rights, but he will not be paid a cent of his actual Broncos football deal because of a series of alleged contract breaches.
Broncos lawyers spent hours on Sunday navigating the legal minefield of Bennett’s termination following revelations the coach was contacting players at his future employer, South Sydney.
It is believed the 68-yearold Bennett’s Broncos salary had two components – his football contract and an intellectual-property component related to his worth for the club in Brisbane’s marketing and corporate spheres.
The terms of Bennett’s settlement are confidential but he will leave Red Hill with a major six-figure payout.


I faced it all and I stood tall ... and I’ll do it my way
PAUL MALONE
ANALYSIS
 
OWN MAN: New Broncos coach Anthony Seibold.
 
USUALLY you hear “my way” a lot at funerals, not at the beginning of something.
But Anthony Seibold laid down at his first news conference as Broncos coach that he is going to be his own man.
Three times in the 19 minutes of his first news conference as Broncos coach, Seibold steered us on to the path of his “way’’ when asked about how his methods compared to Wayne Bennett’s or the confusing events surrounding life at Redfern and Red Hill.
Possessing the nuggety build befitting his former roles as a Broncos lower-grade hooker and Raiders first grader, Seibold strikes you as a strong presence in a room.
The 44-year-old’s more emotional outbursts at the media in the past six months and evident frustration with how his future was played out publicly have raised the question of whether he is temperamentally suited to life as Broncos coach.
“Am I suited to the role? Well, we’ll find out,’’ Seibold said.
“The last couple of weeks have been an intense experience. But it’s over. I’ll do things my way and go from there. I have a love for coaching to start with.
“I have given a long-term commitment to the Broncos. It was a very tough decision but I felt I could make an impact with this group. I’ve shown over the last 12 months (with Souths) that I do a sound job.’’ Ex-players including Chris Johns, Glenn Lazarus and Kerrod Walters (pictured) had been vocal in criticism of the road by which the Broncos bosses arrived at Seibold as coach.
“I do know there’s a great legacy left by the Old Boys at the club.
“I’ll tell you what is the most important thing for me is to build strong relationships with the playing group and the staff,’’ Seibold said.
“I can’t control any of the commentary outside this group. What excites me is there is an opportunity (for the 2019 Broncos) to create their own history.
“At some stage of course I want the Old Boys to be proud of the team’s performances, but my priority is the staff and players because they control the result.
“Watching Broncos sides in the past, they never get beaten on effort. I’ll do things my way and try to provide a really good environment.’’
Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-07, 09:23 AM
Axe falls on Demetriou

PETER BADEL
CHIEF RUGBY LEAGUE WRITER
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SACKED: Jason Demetriou.

THE bloodletting at Brisbane has continued, with Wayne Bennett’s assistant Jason Demetriou sacked by the Broncos.

The Courier-Mail can reveal Demetriou had his contract torn up yesterday morning, leaving Bennett’s right-hand man at Brisbane without a job just three weeks before Christmas.

And more heads are set to roll, with high-performance chief Jeremy Hickmans and Bennett’s chief analyst Scott Barker expected to follow Demetriou out of Red Hill in the next 24 hours. Demetriou was summoned to a meeting with Broncos chief executive Paul White yesterday where he was advised he was surplus to requirements.

Demetriou was contracted to the Broncos until the end of next year but has been offered an immediate payout as Bennett’s replacement Anthony Seibold ushers in a new era at Red Hill.

Seibold presided over Broncos training yesterday with a team of fresh faces including Peter Gentle, Ben Cross and high-performance manager Paul Devlin, with whom he worked at South Sydney.

Demetriou was expected to follow Bennett to Redfern, but it is understood that won’t happen, with the Rabbitohs committed to contracts with their existing staff.

The sacking of Demetriou has capped a turbulent period for Bennett’s assistants.

Demetriou, Hickmans, Barker and trainer Tannath Scott were advised to stay away from Broncos HQ for a week while Seibold’s squadron settled in.

They had their emails shut down immediately and their contents packed in boxes ready for collection.

Bennett has been savaged over the past week but he was reluctant to leave Brisbane until he received assurances his staff would be taken care of.

Eventually Bennett was sacked last Sunday, a scenario that was always going to put his assistants in the firing line.

Bennett revealed at his first press conference at Souths on Tuesday that Rabbitohs hierarchy made it clear they could not afford to bring his Broncos assistants to Redfern.

In July, Bennett tabled a proposal for Demetriou to succeed him as Brisbane’s head coach in 2021, but that blueprint was rejected by the Broncos board.

Demetriou was popular with Brisbane players and played a key role in their attacking structures over the past two seasons.

It is unknown whether he will remain in Queensland as he attempts to chase his NRL coaching ambitions.


ENDS

The casualties of the coaching fiasco mount up if Souths as reported are committed to keeping their existing staff which no reasonable observer would argue with where do Peter Gentle, Ben Cross and high-performance manager Paul Devlin,"with whom he worked at South sydney" come from of the pages off the  positions vacant ?

Further and better particulars required.

Giddy Up :beer:


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-21, 06:53 PM
Benny won’t sue Brisbane
PETER BADEL TRAVIS MEYN
WAYNE Bennett has ruled out legal action against the Broncos after learning of his sacking on social media.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Bennett will receive an estimated payout of $300,000 related to his image rights, but he will not be paid a cent of his actual Broncos football deal because of a series of alleged contract breaches.
Broncos lawyers spent hours on Sunday navigating the legal minefield of Bennett’s termination following revelations the coach was contacting players at his future employer, South Sydney.
It is believed the 68-yearold Bennett’s Broncos salary had two components – his football contract and an intellectual-property component related to his worth for the club in Brisbane’s marketing and corporate spheres.
The terms of Bennett’s settlement are confidential but he will leave Red Hill with a major six-figure payout."
ENDS

That was THEN 4 December NOW he's threatening to sue for $400K according to the CM today ......sent a legal letter of demand to Red Hill ....on the face of it he doesn't have a full hand ..left the Broncos with $385K and walked into South Sydney for a reported $800K.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-21, 07:16 PM
Good on him. Broncos have treated him like crap.

I hope he squeezes all his entitlements out of them  :clap2:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-16, 08:35 PM
The great game returns in Mid March.

The TAB has the below odds.


Winner
 
Syd Roosters 4.50

Melbourne 8.00

Souths 8.00

Brisbane 10.00

Penrith 11.00

Nth Qld 12.00

St George-Ill 13.00

Cronulla 15.00

Newcastle 17.00

Canberra 21.00

Warriors 23.00

Wests Tigers 23.00

Manly 34.00

Parramatta 34.00

Bulldogs 41.00

Gold Coast 51.00
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-16, 09:30 PM
The latest on the "Napa" tapes.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/no-bad-blood-former-rooster-carter-denies-leaking-napa-tapes-20190115-p50rjr.html
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jan-17, 08:15 AM
Souths look unders to me.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jan-17, 08:36 AM
We sure are.

The titans can’t win the comp but but their price is wrong with comparison to others. They, Newcastle & the Cowboys will be the big improvers
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-21, 08:48 PM
There could be a bit of punishment headed for a few players.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/napa-future-uncertain-as-greenberg-talks-tough-on-player-misconduct-20190121-p50sou.html
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jan-25, 07:16 PM
Impatient ride in Beers with Clint :mad: :mad: :mad:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-25, 10:17 PM
There could be a bit of punishment headed for a few players.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/napa-future-uncertain-as-greenberg-talks-tough-on-player-misconduct-20190121-p50sou.html

Have you heard/seen what he did? On camera!!

If they banned Todd Carney then they have to ban Napa.

WTF would possess someone to do that?

Funny thing is that the press describe him as a "Canterbury Bulldogs Star" when he hasn't even played a game with them. Good choice in letting him go Trent   :lol:  
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-26, 12:12 AM
PP, the issue is not the suspension but what do new clubs do when they sign a player from a rival club and past behaviour comes back to bite.

Do they get compensation or salary cap relief? Roosters get away with no penalties even though their players started the What’s App group. It is also very strange all of the videos has become public after Napa left the Roosters.

There has been no questions asked of the Roosters management or players regarding the videos while the bulldogs are copping the brunt of this.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jan-26, 07:08 AM
"it is also very strange all of the videos has become public after Napa left the Roosters"

  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-26, 09:41 AM
PP, the issue is not the suspension but what do new clubs do when they sign a player from a rival club and past behaviour comes back to bite.

Do they get compensation or salary cap relief? Roosters get away with no penalties even though their players started the What’s App group. It is also very strange all of the videos has become public after Napa left the Roosters.

There has been no questions asked of the Roosters management or players regarding the videos while the bulldogs are copping the brunt of this.

Jeunes.

The issue is not clubs getting compensation.

The ISSUE is why on earth a grown man would sit there letting someone film him wanking himself. Especially in this day and age where film of that nature has value - just ask Mitchell Pearce.

There is no other issue.

Your insinuations, without a shred of evidence, that the Roosters management somehow had something to do with it is typical social media crap.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jan-26, 09:49 AM
"it is also very strange all of the videos has become public after Napa left the Roosters"

  :whistle:

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Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jan-26, 09:50 AM
Your insinuations, without a shred of evidence, that the Roosters management somehow had something to do with it is typical social media crap.

  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-26, 09:58 AM
The videos were taken by former Souths and Easts player Paul Carter on a Roosters end of season tour.

Carter has strenuously denied being the one to release the videos.

(I'm sure he would know who did release them).

The release of the videos is a crime described as "Revenge Porn" and you can be charged for it.

If the police were serious they could find out who did release the tapes and charge them.

I'd hazard a guess (it is social media after all and we can say what we like just like you guys have done) that it would be someone who hates the Roosters and is trying to implicate them. Probably Souths or Newcastle but we all know they are  both a protected species  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jan-26, 10:06 AM
Welcome back PP  :lol:  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-26, 11:22 AM
PP, good to have you back and argue the bleeding obvious.

I have never defended any of the players, it is stupidity at the most. However if the parties were consensual and video taping seemed like it too, there is nothing legally wrong except for the release of the tapes. Why people put themselves in a situation in the first place especially with the social media etc that is a question for their intelligence.

The Whats App group was started by the Rooster players etc. When the dogs got done for their Mad Monday antics, they were photographed from different vantage points and club officials were questioned in regards to this as they were also present.

In HR terms, whenver we have a work function or work trip after hours, we are still governed by our HR policies.  The offseason trip was after the Roosters premiership win and had Roosters players but were there any officials there? Were they aware of any recrodings or bad behaviour or was it treated like boys being boys? Why no media scrutiny of this?

The question also beg itself why was it released a few months after Napa left the club? If it was a Roosters hater, they would have released it before the finals series. The NRL players targeted were Napa and Ferguson who both left the Roosters. Why would'nt the NRL bring all the players in the group and question them? As a Knights fan, I am worried that Pearce, Watson, Mogo, Guerra and Kenny Dowell could be affected.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jan-26, 11:52 AM
Why no media scrutiny of this?

Because it's not a 'man bites dog' story

If it were a group of chess-players on their annual excursion . . .

But for league players . . very passe
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-26, 02:16 PM

The question also beg itself why was it released a few months after Napa left the club?

Yeah I'm sure Nick Politis is possession of the tapes and ordering them to be released one by one so he can hurt Canterbury  :wacko:

If the police really wanted to know who did it they have the powers to subpoena the ip address recorded by the poster. The ip address can then be matched to a provider e.g. addresses starting with a 52 are Optus, and the Service Provider can be subpoenad to provide the information on the account information at the time.

But that hasn't happened has it. Either the police think it is a trivial matter and they have more important stuff to do or there is not the political will.

Perhaps Nick Politis has ordered the police to not do anything. That would support your conspiracy theory   emthup

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jan-26, 03:15 PM


Perhaps Nick Politis has ordered the police to not do anything. That would support your conspiracy theory   emthup

He does seem to have some pull (pun intended)   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-26, 03:20 PM
Yeah I'm sure Nick Politis is possession of the tapes and ordering them to be released one by one so he can hurt Canterbury  :wacko:

If the police really wanted to know who did it they have the powers to subpoena the ip address recorded by the poster. The ip address can then be matched to a provider e.g. addresses starting with a 52 are Optus, and the Service Provider can be subpoenad to provide the information on the account information at the time.

But that hasn't happened has it. Either the police think it is a trivial matter and they have more important stuff to do or there is not the political will.

Perhaps Nick Politis has ordered the police to not do anything. That would support your conspiracy theory    emthup

The difference is political will. It is the roosters.

I am still waiting to see where they will play from if Labor wins the election. The battle could be funny to watch.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-26, 07:23 PM
The difference is political will. It is the roosters.

I am still waiting to see where they will play from if Labor wins the election. The battle could be funny to watch.

So if this conspiracy theory of yours were true, what advantage are Easts making by releasing the tapes (that they somehow came into possession of).

Can you explain to me the motive behind your conspiracy theory at least  :what:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-26, 09:31 PM
So if this conspiracy theory of yours were true, what advantage are Easts making by releasing the tapes (that they somehow came into possession of).

Can you explain to me the motive behind your conspiracy theory at least  :what:

PP, you are absolutely right in the conspiracy theory but I never said it was the Roosters who released the tapes. Politis or his management will never do that as they have too much to lose.

My question is why is it released now when Napa is no longer at the Roosters. If it was a rooster hater as you stated, it would have been released in the finals series.

That is the question and you can take whatever out of it but please don’t put words or bandy any questions as conspiracy theories.

So my question to you PP is a simple one. Do you think the NRL should investigate the What’s App group or only look at this particular instance as the Nrl is looking at suspending Napa?

The question is not a conspiracy theory as different people will have different views.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-27, 12:19 AM
PP, you are absolutely right in the conspiracy theory but I never said it was the Roosters who released the tapes. Politis or his management will never do that as they have too much to lose.

My question is why is it released now when Napa is no longer at the Roosters. If it was a rooster hater as you stated, it would have been released in the finals series.

That is the question and you can take whatever out of it but please don’t put words or bandy any questions as conspiracy theories.

So my question to you PP is a simple one. Do you think the NRL should investigate the What’s App group or only look at this particular instance as the Nrl is looking at suspending Napa?

The question is not a conspiracy theory as different people will have different views.

In amongst a set of rhetorical questions I noticed you didn't answer my question about a motive  :chin:

As for your question:

"Do you think the NRL should investigate the What’s App group or only look at this particular instance as the Nrl is looking at suspending Napa?"

I have already stated that I think it should be investigated at the police level because the crime of "porn revenge" has been committed. I even told them how to do their job - something the police - especially Sutherland Police - are extremely poor at doing.

You can take from that my answer to your question is yes.

Until this is done any conspiracy theories against Easts are invalid - doubly so if there is no motive for them to do this.

Dylan Napa left Easts on good terms as far as I can see from the information available to the public.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-27, 12:55 AM
PP, the motive is the mystery as it is stupid and liable for trouble.

The timing is also a mystery as this was from a few years ago. Thus why wait and release tapes when he leaves.

I feel sorry for the dogs if he got suspended. It was a consensual tape and the release is a breach of privacy. If it was not released we would not be talking about it

Should Napa get suspended? That is also an interesting question.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jan-27, 09:44 AM


I feel sorry for the dogs if he got suspended. It was a consensual tape and the release is a breach of privacy. If it was not released we would not be talking about it

Should Napa get suspended? That is also an interesting question.


No - for the reasons you outlined (and I hate the Dogs)

The sledging he'll cop on the field will be enough punishment  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-28, 07:40 PM
No - for the reasons you outlined (and I hate the Dogs)

The sledging he'll cop on the field will be enough punishment  :shutup:

Well if the answer is No then you'd have to agree that the 9 weeks that Mitchell Pearce got was almost criminal. Easts came last that season.

It wouldn't surprise if they let him off. Easts (and Cronulla for that matter) seem to have stricter standards applied to them by the NRL than the "darling" clubs.

If Greg Inglis played for Cronulla Phil Rothfield would make sure he got six months suspension.

Caught up with John Morris at the club last week and wished him the best. His late dad John Morris Snr. was a representative Country NSW coach and it is great to see Johnny following in Dad's footsteps.   emthup  I think if he can get Fifita onside then they will go close to winning it. The signing of Sean Johnson looks good on paper.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-28, 09:52 PM
PP, the sharks have a few interesting characters plus a few reformed ones too. If Gallen can inspire his team mates, they will give the competition a huge shake.

Any team that contains Duggan, Johnson, Fifita, Woods, Moylan, Morris,  Graham etc will be hard to beat along with some of the younger talent that is developing.

On the Napa front, NRL will act due to the offseason from hell with the number of players charged over alleged assaults and / or sexual assault etc. I fear he may end up paying a higher penalty as a result.

Hayne case is the worst alleged assault of the lot but technically he is uncontracted. Thus he is out of reach for the Nrl to send a message and for many including the non sports lovers, he is still seen as a Nrl player though. Any penalty is moot because if he is found guilty, he might serve some custodial sentence. However he is still facing court so presumption of innocence is still there.




Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jan-29, 12:18 PM
There's no consistency from the NRL PP and it all leads back to Greenberg.

Corey Norman got 8 weeks for being caught with a pill yet the Kiwi players are on film snorting a line in Canberra and get hit with a feather of two.

You only have to see the mud the Eels were dragged through over the salary cap yet Manly spent the whole of last year playing with similar offenses hanging over them but it's amounted to a fine, it was major headlines for the Eels.

Greenberg isn't a leader but purely reactionary to the headlines, he's a myth & needs to go.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-29, 10:05 PM
PP, the sharks have a few interesting characters plus a few reformed ones too. If Gallen can inspire his team mates, they will give the competition a huge shake.

Any team that contains Duggan, Johnson, Fifita, Woods, Moylan, Morris,  Graham etc will be hard to beat along with some of the younger talent that is developing.


I know your OP says $15 for The Sharks but I see $18 on offer.

I like to have 2 or 3 early bets on sides at those sort of odds and see if I can arb myself into an unbeatable position come GF day and Sharks look a little bit of overs to me.

My opinion of Fifita is that he is the best prop to have played the game since Artie Beetson.

Artie was a bit off the rails in the early days as well until Jack Gibson got him to settle.  Wondering if John Morris can do the same for Fifita.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-29, 10:09 PM
There's no consistency from the NRL PP and it all leads back to Greenberg.

Corey Norman got 8 weeks for being caught with a pill yet the Kiwi players are on film snorting a line in Canberra and get hit with a feather of two.

You only have to see the mud the Eels were dragged through over the salary cap yet Manly spent the whole of last year playing with similar offenses hanging over them but it's amounted to a fine, it was major headlines for the Eels.

Greenberg isn't a leader but purely reactionary to the headlines, he's a myth & needs to go.

Greg Bird. Another one. Got away with glassing his partner and snorting Coke as well as pissing on a policeman's wheel   :biggrin:

Mitch Pearce was drunk as a skunk and was filmed from someone in a closet who got paid $250,000 by Channel 9 so they could advertise that night's ACA as having a first grade Rugby League player having sex with a dog (we all know now this was untrue).

I'm still shocked over it  :o
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-29, 10:48 PM
Interesting that two people suspended for salary cap rorting at two different clubs are united now at the Roosters.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/anderson-to-join-roosters-after-doing-time-in-purgatory-for-cap-rort-20190129-p50ud7.html

Far from being judgmental and a cleanskin but I thought salary cap rorters were banned from entering the competition again. It is not a great deterrent if people can do this at one club and walk back into a job 12 months later at another club. Unfortunately the original club could be still be suffering penalties from this.

Regardless of clubs or people involved, it should be a mandatory 3-5 years suspension from the game if NRL were serious about salary cap rorts. Manly will be still paying the penalties for years to come from not be able to recruit properly and their fans will suffer.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-confirm-salary-cap-penalties-as-manly-appeal-dismissed/news-story/7ab2faf6e75394bc5dc5a6e7e74a7c93

Compare current scenario to the Wests Tiger CEO who got in trouble with the ambassador position where a CEO got deregistered. Farah is yet to be paid or accept the role too but that maybe a moot point.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers-ceo-justin-pascoe-has-been-deregistered-after-nrl-investigation/news-story/730fc8e631d0662e96d012f288dade41
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jan-30, 06:40 AM
Cowgirls are a nice price. I got 15s
Maguire and Barba will make a big impact and Morgan will make the team his own
Mosby and Martin to step up as well. If the coach is smart Taumalolo will have his best year yet
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jan-30, 08:34 AM
A new collective noun;-

A Rooster of cheats.
 :beer:

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Jan-30, 08:52 AM
A new collective noun;-

A Rooster of cheats.
 :beer:

Droll. Very Droll.

I see we are back to playing you guys first round.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jan-30, 04:19 PM
A new collective noun;-

A Rooster of cheats.
 :beer:


 :clap2: :clap2: :clap2: :thumbsup: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jan-31, 07:55 PM
Interesting news about the sharks.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/cronulla-sharks-in-danger-of-losing-a-player-after-salary-cap-breach/8fadcad4-073f-411c-9473-c87338634b1c

Wests fighting breach so interesting times for NRL. Not sure if penalty is suspended pending appeal.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/wests-tigers/tigers-respond-to-breach-notices-pascoe-enlists-top-legal-eagle/news-story/b7efdccdb818f3ce16590c95ded67530

Not sure if NRL had imposed any penalties or waiting prior to season start.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/cowboys/bolton-is-not-on-a-pedestal-cowboy-learns-fate-over-bondi-assault/news-story/7591b5184f84cc8b3ba48273ff7184df

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Feb-01, 07:44 PM
Barba will make a big impact
/quote]

Has already made a big impact apparently . .  :whistle:

Dunno what's happened . . Local news channel had Lozza telling us what a great bloke Benny was . . "training the house down with the Cowboys" I think were his words

Half an hour later ABC news has Benny sacked for breach of contract over integrity issues



I think the Cowboys had him on a 12 month contract . . in case . . they were bad judges  :confused1:

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Feb-01, 08:47 PM
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/cowboys-sack-barba-after-alleged-assault-of-partner-20190201-p50v74.html
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Feb-01, 09:07 PM
Bit hard to feel sorry . .

For BB . .

Or the Cowboys  :wavecry:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Feb-02, 02:06 AM
Bit hard to feel sorry . .

For BB . .

Or the Cowboys  :wavecry:

Bit hard to feel sorry . .

For BB . .

Or the Cowboys  :wavecry:

Saw him one night in the Bistro at Cronulla RSL with a couple of mates. Was obviously "inebriated" (I was going to say drunk but that may be inaccurate given subsequent events) and was carrying on like a first class pork chop.

Some footballers just do not get it  :no:

Could have been anything.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Feb-02, 08:35 AM
Saw him one night in the Bistro at Cronulla RSL with a couple of mates. Was obviously "inebriated" (I was going to say drunk but that may be inaccurate given subsequent events) and was carrying on like a first class pork chop.

Some footballers just do not get it  :no:

Could have been anything.

I agree PP. I recall below incident when there were allegations previously. However the dogs were cleared of any wrong doing.

https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2013-09-29/greenberg-says-he-would-do-same-again-over-barba/4987788?pfmredir=sm
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Feb-02, 09:55 PM
A more circumspect view on Napa’s videos.

https://www.canberratimes.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-must-tread-carefully-if-it-wants-to-punish-napa-20190201-p50v3p.html
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Feb-25, 11:27 PM
Early Injury List - some big names on it:

FULL CASUALTY WARD

BRONCOS

Anthony Milford (hamstring/shoulder) - Round 1

RAIDERS

Jordan Rapana (shoulder) - Round 11-14

Ata Hingano (shoulder) - mid-season

Joey Leilua (hamstring) -Round 1

Michael Oldfield (knee) - Round 1

John Bateman (side strain) - Round 1

BULLDOGS

Fa’amanu Brown (leg) - Round 4

SHARKS

Josh Dugan (shoulder) - Round 1

Wade Graham (knee) - Round 9-12

Ava Seumenafagai (unknown) - TBC

TITANS

Ryan James (knee) - Round 1-3

AJ Brimcons (shoulder) - trials

SEA EAGLES

Lachlan Croker (knee) - TBC

Tom Trbojevic (hamstring) - TBC

Kelepi Tanginoa (knee) - TBC

Taniela Paseka (knee) - TBC

STORM

Jahrome Hughes (calf/cramp) - trials

Will Chambers (ankle) - trials

WARRIORS

Issac Luke (shoulder) - Round 4

Blake Green (hamstring) - Round 1

KNIGHTS

Tautau Moga (knee) - Round 2

Jacob Saifiti (leg) - Round 1

Slade Griffin (knee) - TBC

COWBOYS

Michael Morgan (biceps) - trials

Jordan Kahu (ribs) - trials

Kurt Wiltshire (ankle) - TBC

EELS

Kaysa Pritchard (shoulder) - Round 1

PANTHERS

Nathan Cleary (ankle) - trials

Sam McKendry (knee) - TBC

Viliame Kikau (knee) - TBC

RABBITOHS

Greg Inglis (knee) - trials-Round 1

Adam Doueihi (knee) - Round 4-5

Billy Brittain (concussion/face) - TBC

DRAGONS

Jack de Belin (illness) - trials

Jacob Host (shoulder) - Round 1

ROOSTERS

Ryan Hall (knee) - TBC

Angus Crichton (shoulder) - trials

Craig Garvey (hamstring) - trials

TIGERS

Nil

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/nrl-casualty-ward-trials-week-2-full-injury-list-return-dates-for-every-club/news-story/8eab39b45f3e004bdb0e146f9d33a84c
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Feb-26, 08:12 AM
Jack de Belin (illness) - trials


Is that what they call it?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Mar-04, 06:54 PM
I am not sure if below is a genius idea to distract from all the off season scandals or plain stupid.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-proposed-new-finals-format-to-extend-to-top-10-from-top-eight/news-story/f67e817f997d5660c61f6b8ea2ad6de8
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Mar-08, 06:46 PM
Smith makes an interesting point but won’t make people happy.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/nrl-news-cameron-smith-says-melbourne-storm-should-be-handed-back-stripped-penalties/f022d3ae-6197-4fbb-b65c-b91077d85bb8
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Mar-11, 09:26 PM
The latest in Barba incident.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/ben-barba-set-to-hand-himself-into-queensland-police/d7ab59df-e908-4ce3-9afa-90fa558d4104
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Mar-24, 09:27 PM
Only 2 rounds in and there are stories about relocation, salary cap rorts from the past, refereeing errors, state of origin etc.

League is back.


https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nrl-premiership/teams/sharks/shane-flanagan-caught-up-in-sharks-salary-cap-rort-as-damning-email-exposed/news-story/0aed13bd7c3610137f30c06fe93d203b
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Mar-31, 05:19 PM
After three rounds it appears Melbourne Storm will be a contender once again, even without Billy Slater.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Mar-31, 05:36 PM
And it seems the Cowboys won't be . .
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Mar-31, 05:58 PM
Early days but the next 5 rounds will have a big impact on top 4 for some of the lower top 8 prospects.

Dragons, Panthers, Knights, Raiders, Warriors, Eels, Cowboys and Tigers need to ensure a better than 50% record otherwise will be competing for positions 5-8 only.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-13, 12:38 PM
What do the Broncos,  Cowboys and Titans have in common other than being Queensland  teams?

They all have 1 win from 5 games.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-22, 08:25 PM
3 coaches under pressure at the moment but unlikely to be fired.

Brown, Cleary and Seibold have improve but other than Brown the rest are too expensive to pay out plus it is only their first year for the latter two.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: ratsack on 2019-Apr-22, 08:30 PM
3 coaches under pressure at the moment but unlikely to be fired.

Brown, Cleary and Seibold have improve but other than Brown the rest are too expensive to pay out plus it is only their first year for the latter two.

Brown shouldn't be in trouble .
he is only cleaning up the mess left by the old fella that did the same at the dragons and now broncos
this is really his first year , although plenty will want him gone
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Apr-22, 08:55 PM
this is really his first year ,

Eh?

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: ratsack on 2019-Apr-22, 09:01 PM
Eh?


not that difficult really .
I happen to agree with NB
The 2016 NRL season was Brown's first as head coach of the Newcastle Knights. In his first two seasons at Newcastle, Brown's side collected back to back wooden spoons, finishing last on the ladder. In 2018, after Newcastle defeated Brisbane, Brown claimed at the press conference that Brisbane coach Wayne Bennett was to blame for Newcastle's problems over the last few seasons
"from wiki "
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: ratsack on 2019-Apr-22, 09:05 PM
I think you will find if GLORY GLORY  don't win the comp in the next couple of years you will find out what i'm talking about lol
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-22, 09:10 PM
Brown shouldn't be in trouble .
he is only cleaning up the mess left by the old fella that did the same at the dragons and now broncos
this is really his first year , although plenty will want him gone


As a knights fan I disagree with you in regards to Brown. Bennett left in 2014. Stone /Buderus in charge in 2015 and then Brown since 2016.

Some of his team buys are discards from other clubs or have seen better days. We got some good young buys in Ponga etc. Not a great number of juniors coming through in last 4 years.

The fact is Brown tried to buy success and his rosters have improved over the years. However he paid overs due to the knights being not a glamour team. Juniors are not that great too. He should bought better or more juniors.

If he does not make the semis then I am happy for him to move on.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-23, 08:00 AM
From what I saw the other day the players have a bit to answer for, not the coach
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-23, 08:02 AM
3 coaches under pressure at the moment but unlikely to be fired.

Brown, Cleary and Seibold have improve but other than Brown the rest are too expensive to pay out plus it is only their first year for the latter two.

I suspect the 3 coaches have been unlucky in the fact their players have read all the news reports saying how much potential they have.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-23, 08:55 AM
I suspect the 3 coaches have been unlucky in the fact their players have read all the news reports saying how much potential they have.


Agree to a certain level but none of the three pairs of halves at the club have been consistent. More to the way they are playing or structure is up for debate.

However still early days and next 4 rounds will have a big say in where they are headed.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-23, 07:45 PM
Gould to be made redundant is an interesting story.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/report-phil-gould-set-to-leave-penrith-panthers/news-story/24f4d486e85a11b4b84c998d638e9700
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-23, 08:13 PM
He’d done his job.
Who’s next cab off the rank for him. NRL or the Sharks. Maybe a new franchise ?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Apr-23, 08:19 PM
Interesting article , but when did Phil Gould become a rugby league great ? Sure he has been a successful coach but hardly a rugby league great when I watched him . Gasnier, Raper, Johns, Fulton , Lewis etc would be entitled to feel a little peeved. Wily I would suggest Perth. The CEO thinks the sun shines out of his proverbial. I think the only thing that will stop him is if FZ picks him up at the airport. Then he might have to re consider. Some times money is not everything.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Apr-23, 08:20 PM
I remember in Gould's last year as a player with Souths the money was on him coming back in due course to replace Piggins as coach but it didn't happen.

Then in the court case for us to be reinstated ( which I attended) I remember leaving the court and listening in on Gould giving a radio interview on the footpath outside the court and I wondered whether he was angling for a return to Souths.

I'm glad he never did get the gig as I reckon he's a bloody blowhard.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-23, 08:43 PM
Im a fan. Our return from our unjust removal from the comp would have gone a lot better with Gould in charge
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-23, 09:37 PM
Gould turned Penrith around. They were almost bust with some bad expansions with other clubs etc

He was a financial and football messiah for them. He got a lot of sponsors and publicity for the club.

His biggest problem was that most at Penrith saw him as the boss. Thus it created a few issues at different times.

Bennett would have been a great choice for Penrith as he is proven. I still think Penrith has a better long term roster than Souths.

Gould has done his job but the jury is out on Cleary.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Apr-24, 03:56 PM
He’d done his job.
Who’s next cab off the rank for him. NRL or the Sharks. Maybe a new franchise ?

Sharks seem a likely fit.

I suggested today on Twitter that he'd be great in the NRL, he understands the game & has it at heart.

You can't say that for the current leadership who are reactive at best and more interested in their own ego / profile.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-24, 06:46 PM
Gin, I’d love to see him get Greenbergs job
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-24, 11:34 PM
Gin, I’d love to see him get Greenbergs job

Will never happen.

Gould was quite outspoken at times and it does not go down well.

Greenberg however does not have a vision at times.

NRL should have expanded a while and introduced a conference system similar to NFL.

There are teams that maybe lucky to win a competition every 20-25 years. The US divisions in sport keeps fans interested and rivalries flaming.

In Australia, not all fans are not diehard enough to cope with season after season of not winning a competition especially the youngsters.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Apr-25, 10:58 AM
I'd prefer the game to expand to say 20 but play everyone only once.

It's silly that we get to some teams twice but others only once, it will never be fair under this system  :shrug:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-25, 12:26 PM
18 teams.
3 conferences of 6
Play your own conference home & away
Everyone else once

Top 2 from each conference and 2 wild cards to the play offs
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-25, 01:39 PM
Wily, I agree with you as this would improve the crowds too.

However the issue is some teams don't want to be in other teams due to the lack of drawing power.

All the Sydney Teams would want to be in one conference and not with interstate teams. That is the main issue as the AFL had the same issue when they brought up a similar concept.

Sometimes easier to work a seeding system and have 2 or 3 conferences but that will again annoy certain clubs.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-26, 07:00 PM
Friend out for 4 months.

It will be interesting now who will be the hooker for Qld or will they use an utility or half as hooker.

As a NSW supporter, their centre pairing will be interesting as Chambers was outclassed last year by Mitchell.

I do like their halves if they go with DCE and Morgan but the latter was mooted as a centre recently.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: winner on 2019-Apr-28, 04:40 PM
Parra are back to their brilliant best at being the worst team in the comp  :rant:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Apr-28, 04:52 PM
That’s because their halfback is a cat
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Apr-28, 06:08 PM
Mighty win by the knights.

We are back on track. We doubled our wins for the year so we are flying.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-04, 10:01 PM
Unfortunately I think we saw the 2019 premiers tonight think.

Where's PP?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-May-05, 11:28 PM
Some interesting news from the previous round.

Have to agree regarding Mitchell. Not a Roosters fan but they look absolutely superb. It is a dynasty in the making if they can keep their roster and be injury free.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/talking-points-from-round-eight-of-the-2019-nrl-season/news-story/9769b8d40cb01a83f720c52f1dd34f2c
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-06, 09:37 AM
bump

seems there's another thread with same name
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-06, 09:38 AM
Bump

thread with same name
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: westie on 2019-May-09, 09:52 PM
Threads merged.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-11, 04:37 PM
Why is this round called the "Magic" round?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-May-11, 05:04 PM
If you take you family to all of the games, your money will disapppear . .
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-11, 05:55 PM
Thanks Arthur. :p
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-May-12, 09:05 PM
Why is this round called the "Magic" round?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Weekend (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_Weekend)
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-12, 09:43 PM
Thanks Gin.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-May-12, 11:26 PM
The crowd reported is around 133-137k. There is a spin on highest number of spectators for some of these matches etc.

It is a joke because if you had the games at the normal venues, I think you probably down only 20-25% at most. Considering the tickets were being sold from $60-100 for a 8 game package, it is hard to see financially how the NRL were better off significantly.

Also who paid the costs of flying and accommodating the players, staff and officials etc? Was it the clubs or NRL?

The concept needs a bit of tweaking as it is better playing in other states rather than Brisbane and Sydney. This way the NRL can attract different fans.

It will be intriguing to work out how many of the crowd on the weekend were players, staff etc. Also how many spectators attended all 4 days etc.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Antitab# on 2019-May-13, 10:13 AM
The Qld state Govt through Tourism Queensland paid several million to the NFL for the event.

Huge profit for NRL.

WA tourism is doing the same to host Origin, that is why it’s played ion a Sunday not a Wednesday so visitors may spend a weekend in WA
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-May-17, 10:28 AM
I honestly cannot recall if the injury list has been higher than this year. I can’t think of any clubs being unaffected.

It will affect the salary cap for the future as we have now fringe players playing more grade games and getting a chance to prove their talent.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-May-17, 12:28 PM
Very true mate. The bunnies have 5 of their backline out of play
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-May-17, 06:21 PM
I always have a chuckle when it happens.

The first time I think was in the 60s when Newtown announced that to improve performance it was dropping Dudley Towers.

This week Josh Mansour was the latest.

That is: team management blames recent weeks' losses on  a winger and drop him to improve the next week's prospects.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: gunbower on 2019-May-17, 07:10 PM
Great point JWH -may as well sack the runner ; or in racing parlance, the strapper.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-May-18, 11:25 AM
Interesting comments from Ivan Cleary. Looks like there are off field issues

https://www.msn.com/en-au/sport/rugby-league/ivan-cleary-urges-rock-bottom-penrith-panthers-to-come-together/ar-AABvZXu?ocid=spartanntp
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-May-29, 08:37 PM
Another sad story post sports career if allegations are true. As a knights fan, really appreciated his skills and one stage there was comparisons to Andrew Johns.

https://www.9news.com.au/national/jarrod-mullen-former-newcastle-knights-player-charged-over-alleged-cocaine-supply/28b7375f-099a-41fc-b423-3e8472e34e16

Some highlights including the length of the field effort off a deflected field goal.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TpeUMddjrfY
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-May-29, 08:45 PM
Certainly a fall from grace
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: firezuki on 2019-Jun-07, 01:18 AM
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Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Jun-07, 07:24 PM
They would quite rightfully be called a racist prat like you.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-07, 07:59 PM
Agree to a certain level but none of the three pairs of halves at the club have been consistent. More to the way they are playing or structure is up for debate.

However still early days and next 4 rounds will have a big say in where they are headed.

Ever since Brownie started to listen to me about the structures etc, we started winning.

I will settle for a top 8 spot. That will be a nice solid season and next year with more development, hopefully a top 4-6 side.

The forwards are underrated and doing superbly but long season ahead still.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-07, 09:02 PM
That was a horrible performance by the 3 teams tonight. Bunnies, knights and officials
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-07, 09:28 PM
The big 3 are still the teams to beat this year. However if they are not at their best, there are other teams nipping at their heels.

Teams like Sharks, Raiders, Knights seem to be a tier below them. Sea Eagles, Dragons, Eels, Broncos and Cowboys can challenge for top 8 if they can get their full strength teams on the paddock.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: firezuki on 2019-Jun-08, 03:16 AM
They would quite rightfully be called a racist prat like you.


So you're calling the rugby players who wouldn't sing the National Anthem racist?


Might be the first time you got something right. 



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-09, 08:15 AM
NRL is becoming like US sports with players now being transferred mid season to other clubs.

Interestingly some of the players are part of a trade deal involving a few clubs rather than a straight swop.

Gold Coast has to be one of the unluckiest or absolutely horrible in some of their recruitment recently. Hayne, Cartwright, Peachey etc have not set the world on fire after coming across for big money. The sad part is the Titans do have a good roster too.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Arsenal on 2019-Jun-14, 10:32 AM
Finally! A contract they want to honour
 
ROBERT CRADDOCK

CM today
RING the bells. Stop the presses. Wake up the children.

The sporting world has unearthed the most amazing discovery … a rugby league contract that does not dissolve under pressure.
A deal that actually sticks … amazing.

Shame it’s bad news for Queensland and a bad result for the game.

ARL commission boss Peter Beattie has claimed the reason Queensland cannot host the NRL grand final is because of the contract between the NRL and the NSW Government, which sees Sydney hosting the decider for 25 years.

Queensland league fans, how unlucky can you be?

It seems the one contract in rugby league that can’t be broken on the flimsiest of whims is the one that will stop you from watching a Suncorp Stadium grand final.
And it’s hard to swallow.

Barely a week goes by in league without someone breaking a contract or threatening to.

This week, it’s Dane Gagai tipped to leave Souths with two years to go on his deal.

Last week, James Roberts landed at Souths, despite being contracted to the Broncos.

When it comes to player contracts, rugby league has become a game where yesterday’s iron-clad deal is today’s wet handshake and tomorrow’s U-turn.

It’s not pretty, but it’s the sporting universe at play. Circumstances change and so do people’s needs. The game moves fast, on and off the field.

Players can move as they like, yet stadium deals are apparently anchored in bricks and mortar.

That’s a shame because this situation was crying out for common sense to overcome the stifling rigidity of a longterm deal.

With ANZ Stadium unavailable due to renovations for the next few years, it just made sense on so many levels to give Suncorp Stadium a crack at hosting the big day.

Rugby league has moved past the days when fans would go to the SCG and be happy to watch a rectangular field inside a round ground. The SCG is a great cricket ground, but a dreadful rugby league ground.

Suncorp is made for rugby league. And it can hold more fans than the SCG. Had the grand final been moved to Brisbane, there would have been no major protest from Sydney fans.

And it would have meant Sydney would still have hosted 24 out of 25 grand finals in the contract period.

The NRL claims the law is the law. But sometimes, particularly if you live in Queensland, the law is an ass.


Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-16, 07:38 PM
NSW dropping Mitchell based on one game is a bit of an overreaction but if they win game 2, Fittler will be regarded as a genius.

Morris was unlucky to be dropped while Walker and Crichton were expected.

But what is amusing is the way they leak parts of the team to the press and social media to dilute the criticism when mass changes are announced.

NRL will be praying for a NSW win as dead runners in Sydney don’t necessarily draw a full crowd.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-16, 07:39 PM
Former forum contributor triple 7s summed up Fitlers idiotic origin 2 team on twitter



ReadingThePlay
@ReadingThePlay
 Fittler told everyone about the new generation and about culture and respect, which is also why he flicked Ferguson.

Loses game 1, gets embarrassed as a coach in how he handled that game and now all the “ideals” are out the widow, desperation now rules..

106
6:40 PM - Jun 16, 2019 · Brisbane, Queensland
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Jun-16, 09:22 PM
Queenslanders just love this when the Blues make mass sackings after one game. Sure the margin was only 4 points ; but perhaps Fittler saw it the same way I did. Four points flattered them ; it could have been twenty. No one will berate him if he gets it right.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: kicker on 2019-Jun-17, 06:24 AM
Former forum contributor triple 7s summed up Fitlers idiotic origin 2 team on twitter



ReadingThePlay
@ReadingThePlay
 Fittler told everyone about the new generation and about culture and respect, which is also why he flicked Ferguson.

Loses game 1, gets embarrassed as a coach in how he handled that game and now all the “ideals” are out the widow, desperation now rules..

106
6:40 PM - Jun 16, 2019 · Brisbane, Queensland

As usual Triples is spot on.

Listening to some of the dribble from coaches in relation to selection justification is absolutely laughable. They are almost as bad as politicians who think you just forgot what they said last week.

Fittler is just being exposed as the lightweight he is.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-17, 07:43 AM
As usual Triples is spot on.

Listening to some of the dribble from coaches in relation to selection justification is absolutely laughable. They are almost as bad as politicians who think you just forgot what they said last week.

Fittler is just being exposed as the lightweight he is.

The fact of the matter is any NSW origin winning coach adds 2-3 years tenure per series win unless they don’t win any in between like Daley.

Fittler has a good relationship with the NSW media who wants inside stories etc. There seems to be drip feeds regarding selections which in turn reduces major criticism of him.

If Fittler pulls off a series win, he will be exalted for his selections. Qld was in a transition phase last year with no Cronk, Smith and Thurston. This year they are stronger while NSW has a few issues.

Walters on the other hand seems to be under more pressure than last year but the rumour persists that he could be targeted for the Titans job if Brennan fails. Thus he will be trying to win the series to prove his credentials of working with a youngish squad but if he loses the series, I think he will be struggling to be a coach anywhere next year.

Regardless of this series, Fittler will be NSW coach next year. Beyond that is a mystery.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Jun-17, 06:06 PM
As most would know I live in Melbourne and have a passing interest in NRL..Go Storm  :beer:

I was wondering as to why The State of Origin seems to take precedence over the home and away season of the competition and, it seems to me, that even the season- ending premiership takes a back seat compared to the SOO.

Some years ago the VFL, SAFL and the WAFL had games against each other and although they were competitive they never rated anything like winning a premiership, yet in NRL the SOO seems paramount, as Julius Sumner Miller once said "why is it so ?"
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jun-17, 06:38 PM
Fair question.

The quality of the SOO is invariably unbelievable. It is usually Rugby League at its best.

I wouldn't miss it. I begin supporting NSW but then f the rub of the green is going against Qld I might flip support.

Frankly I wouldn't give one Souths win for 50 NSW SOO victories. 
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Jun-17, 07:32 PM
Are Queenlanders and New South Welshmen that passionate when those two states play a Sheffield Shield cricket match at the SCG or the Gabba ?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-17, 08:03 PM
No they’re not. Maybe in the halcyon days of Border & Thomson’s desertion of our state we did.

As JWH said, SOO is RL at its bests from the quality of the game to the passion of the players which has led to some of the most physically brutal encounters you could imagine
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Jun-17, 08:34 PM
Which would have Billy Slater cherished the most, his premiership wins with Melbourne Storm or his SOO wins with Queensland?
Cameron Smith, who would have captained Queensland in this year's SOO, has elected to play only for Melbourne Storm to win a premiership.
Why would he do that ? He would have been an automatic selection and captain for Queensland.

 
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-17, 09:07 PM
Bubba, the same argument would be for soccer why the soccer clubs and players prefer playing for their teams rather than the countries or why some professional sportspeople prefer to give the Olympics a miss.

In Smith’s case there are a few theories behind why he did not play last year. Some are not worth repeating. Smith has been playing for years and to be blunt has been hammered from pillar to post as the hooker and captain. Last year was supposed to be his last before he decided to carry on at the end of the year.

State of Origin is the best against the best. I stand to be corrected but most NRL players (not all) prize the jersey more than a national jumper.

State of Origin consistently is one of the highest ratings programmes every year.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Jun-17, 09:26 PM


State of Origin consistently is one of the highest ratings programmes every year.

Only in Queensland and NSW, try Tasmania and South Australia and see how it rates down there.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-17, 09:32 PM
Bubba, that is still good.

AFL gf was the highest rater last year but then look down the list below. I do like AFL and last year’s gf was a cracker.

If anyone can post the below article in full with the figures, it will be great as I could not do it.

http://www.adnews.com.au/news/sport-and-reality-shows-lead-most-viewed-tv-of-2018
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: gunbower on 2019-Jun-17, 09:37 PM
The passion that Queenslanders have for SOO is simply historical . Before SOO Queensland and New South Wales played interstate games . Generally ( all be it with a few exceptions they were won by NSW). Because at that time NSW was the only State with poker machines their Leagues Clubs had the cash to purchase the best players; many of whom were from Queensland. These players, even though they were Queenslanders ended up playing for NSW against their home State and generally triumphed. Many great Queensland players have worn the sky blue jersey ; eg Beetson , Reddy, Williamson, Lang, etc etc. . When SOO came in the tide turned and Queenslanders have never forgotten the joy of thumping an enemy who was once so dominant.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-17, 09:43 PM
Bubba, that is still good.

AFL gf was the highest rater last year but then look down the list below. I do like AFL and last year’s gf was a cracker.

If anyone can post the below article in full with the figures, it will be great as I could not do it.

http://www.adnews.com.au/news/sport-and-reality-shows-lead-most-viewed-tv-of-2018

BTW, the MC should be number 1 as the most of the others states are at work. We have a work party every year like most work places etc. If you include them, it would be a lot higher.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: fours on 2019-Jun-17, 10:57 PM
Australian selection bias,

There was a lot of anger about biased selection for the Australian team favouring NSW players before SOO.

This anger is a large historical reason for the passion between the states. Its a small part in why Beetson belts one of his own weekly teams players in the first match..... on the opposite SOO team.

The QLDers appear to have been correct about the bias given what has ensued since.

Fours



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: kicker on 2019-Jun-18, 03:50 AM
It's often said SOO is the best of the best but that is a furphy IMO. There are an awful lot of players in the NRL who would walk into either side who are ineligible for SOO.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-18, 07:11 AM
I agree Kicker. However the quality of the games is generally the best of the best
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Jun-18, 09:48 AM
To put Australian TV ratings into perspective with world ratings, the estimated viewing audience of the ICC match the other day between India and Pakistan was 1 billion (1,000,000,000) or in Roman numerals ((M)), in both those countries cricket is a national passion.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-18, 10:25 AM
I recall some figure of worldwide audience for SOO being mentioned during 5he telecast
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-18, 01:08 PM
One of the reasons Foxtel is struggling is due to the fact that Aussie population is not high enough to warrant the sports deals and technology has improved over the last few years.

Prior to the last couple of years, you had to subscribe to Foxtel and pay for other crap to watch league or afl. Nowadays if u r with Telstra, it is free so another reduction in income for them.

With Stan, Netflix etc movie lovers are going to them instead of Fox especially with GOT finishing.

Next few years as internet gets faster despite the pollies stuffing the nbn rollout,  satellite installations will go down and less for Foxtel as sporting streaming will improve.

Down the track our population will have an impact on the number of sports getting pay tv deals.  No one is going to pay $80 per month to watch one sport per month if they don’t care about the rest.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jun-18, 08:12 PM
As usual Triples is spot on.

Listening to some of the dribble from coaches in relation to selection justification is absolutely laughable. They are almost as bad as politicians who think you just forgot what they said last week.

Fittler is just being exposed as the lightweight he is.

All year we prattle on about wingers and what a specialist position it is now yet we consistently pick people out of position, similar to centres  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-19, 08:46 PM
All year we prattle on about wingers and what a specialist position it is now yet we consistently pick people out of position, similar to centres  :shutup:

Fittler will either be a genius or a goose on Sunday night.

It will come down to the forwards at the start and the sustainability of their runs. Klemmer was outstanding in the first half of the first match before Qlders came over the top. NSW forwards now have to find a way to push them back. Maloney and Cooke are at their best when they are behind a rolling pack.

Qlders look to have more depth and talent on paper but RL is a funny game as any team with Tedesco, Cooke wtc can never be written off.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-19, 09:09 PM
The thought process behind his decisions is massively flawed

His biggest bug bear was the first 20 minutes of the 2nd half. We couldn’t get out of our own quarter so he hooked Walker and praised the Christ out of Wighton for making the tough runs. The bloke who threw the moronic intercept pass that lost the game :bulb:
His solution This game?  He weakens our team by having even less big bodies to do that dirty work that was required :bulb:


Desperate to get back into the game he brings Walker back on and he delivered, putting Mitchell down the left for what should have won the game....so let’s drop Walker and keep the hog  Cleary  :no:

Oh that’s right, Walker didn’t do enough. Let’s just ignore the fact that he was anchored on the left and Cleary constantly reversed the play and went back to the right, leaving Walker stranded. It was clear to anyone who watched the game

 But hey, Freddy knows best. 3 weeks ago Walker was the best in the comp. Freddy says he picks on form, supposedly, but only for one game apparently and the picks a bloke who’s been diabolically out of form all season.
So much for form and loyalty.... it figures though, he was a roosters player who walked out on his junior club for money  :bulb:



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-20, 12:23 AM
Wily, the problem he is a game down. This is now taking over the decision making and as a result, he has to take risks.

His halves were outplayed and so were most of his backs. I don’t agree with dropping Mitchell but then again we have to wait.

Loyalty v form is a tough one. Qld managed to do it well over the years while the blues struggle. If Fittler pulls the series win, he has a job for next few years.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-20, 07:29 AM
Jeunes
I don’t agree with the term out played. Our halves weren’t the problem, it was the forwards and the balance off the bench that cost.
QLD forwards smashed us in the first 20 of that 2nd half. Remember, we couldn’t get out of our quarter as their defensive line speed was first class.
No half in the history of the game could have turned that assault around. It was the forwards job and we had no one putting their hand up.
He had to bring Wighton on to do it :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Rodent on 2019-Jun-24, 08:01 AM
With no lazy Latrell to squander opportunities or offer Qld easy line breaks, the blues were imperious. As long as they don't pick him for game 3, it should be more pain for Qld in Sydney
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-24, 08:41 AM
Surely they can’t pick him
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Jun-24, 04:27 PM
Surely the only changes will come about from injuries?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-24, 04:47 PM
Cleary in a moon boot with seismosis(?)

Surely they pick Walker. An absolute disgrace if they don’t
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jun-24, 05:21 PM
https://www.orthobullets.com/foot-and-ankle/7029/high-ankle-sprain-and-syndesmosis-injury
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Jun-24, 05:23 PM
That’s it  :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-30, 06:26 PM
Ponga is out and the blues will start very short even with Cleary in or out.

Could NSW think of back to back series wins? We all hope so.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Jun-30, 08:22 PM
"We all hope so . . "

Excuse me . .  :huh:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jun-30, 09:04 PM
"We all hope so . . "

Excuse me . .  :huh:

Sorry, I was talking about my fellow New South Welshmen or people to be politically correct.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Jul-10, 03:34 PM
In the old days the opening 15-20 mins will have a biff but not these days. The penalty count will be low too unless something extraordinary happens.

I cannot remember a side being so short for a decider like NSW is today.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jul-10, 05:10 PM
I prefer NSW to win but not avidly so.

My main interest (as per usual) is for the Souths players to finish unscathed.

PS
If I was betting on this game the odds on Qld would be enticing.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Jul-25, 12:22 PM
League legend Rod Reddy bites back in ugly war of words with Tigers hooker Robbie Farah

Re this headline- What makes Reddy a "League legend"?

That he brought the game into disrepute by his persistent biting?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-02, 06:11 PM
With a few rounds left, there are some coaches lucky that they signed mid year extensions or contracted for a couple more years. The only reasons they won’t be sacked at the end of the year if they don’t make the finals  is due to the payouts.

Brown, Macgregor, Pay, Green and Kearney  may have to look at their resumes next year if their teams don’t improve.



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-02, 07:12 PM
Green is the one who should be under the most scrutiny
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-04, 10:48 AM
Macguire was the last premiership coach to be fired. Green will have 12 months if he is lucky.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Aug-04, 11:17 AM
Macguire was the last premiership coach to be fired.

I seem to recall Benny wining a premiership or seven.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-04, 11:37 AM
His last one with Brisbane was in 2006 so not the same as MacGuire.

Technically the  difference was in years.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Aug-04, 12:00 PM
But he was the last one to be sacked.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-04, 01:05 PM
You are right on that JWH technically.

Bennett won his last premiership with Brisbane in 2006. He then had stints with another two clubs before returning to Brisbane but did not win a premiership on his return and got fired.

Macguire won Souths their first premiership after 40 odd years and got the boot a couple of years later.

Green won the Cowboys their only premiership so is he entitled to go on his terms?

I am not sure and if Bennett’s case is an example of loyalty by clubs to their coaches then Green is on borrowed time.



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-04, 05:18 PM
Gold Coast were hopelessly outclassed against the Roosters and Holbrook probably needs a couple of seasons to make them competitive on a regular basis.

Nathan Brown has been coaching the knights since 2016 and is yet to make the semis so will the Titans be that patient?



Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Aug-05, 03:57 PM
No they won't.

Surely this is the last through at the dice before they are folded up and moved to Ipswich of something.

Watching the Dragons yesterday there were a number of players who simply didn't go that extra step or yard to make that tackle. They have either given up for the year or aren't buying into the coaches tactics.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-06, 10:18 PM
I do feel sorry for Gold Coast. They have have two losing teams in the Suns and Titans.

I think the Titans can be saved but really need a very strong coach and special dispensation with salary cap etc.

I believe if you get the wooden spoon or bottom two sides, you should have 200-300k tacked on for the next two years salary cap as there are no draft concessions.

Very good players would not join a bottom side especially those  in their late 20s which a bottom side needs to mentor youngsters and build on for a few years.

Titans have some good players but also vastly overrated players too. Arrow is off contract at the end of next season too.

With Brennan gone, not sure if any of the ex Panthers players will go too.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Aug-07, 12:45 PM

I believe if you get the wooden spoon or bottom two sides, you should have 200-300k tacked on for the next two years salary cap as there are no draft concessions.


That goes against the very reason for the salary cap.

The cap was put in place to save clubs against themselves. By ensuring they didn't spend more then they could afford and get into financial difficulties.

When clubs finish down the back end of the field their membership contributions decline and their sponsor monies are adversely affected.

So allowing them to spend more when their income is less is exactly the opposite of what the cap was meant to provide against.

 
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: timw on 2019-Aug-07, 06:42 PM
While I don't object to to the amount footballers earn (hangers on are well paid including media and shareholders of media companies) arguably some salary caps don't work because too many players are paid similar amounts despite differences in ability of the teams.  The issue is how much better is the the top team from the bottom team and how you measure the salary differential. 

Lets say NRL and AFL have a 20 game home and way season and the top team wins 15 of 20 and the bottom team 5 of 15. In a free market (soccer is a good example) should the best players for a year be paid similar amounts as the worst.  The answer is no. 

However socialism means overpayments can occur.  Just imagine the screaming if lawyers, doctors and other professionals were all compelled to pay about the same irrespective of their work ethic and ability.

In my opinion the clubs are at fault for agreeing (whether voluntarily or otherwise) to pay too much to very ordinary conveyances.  It follows an increase in the salary cap is not required to prop up bottom teams rather payment according to ability is required and if that means if players from bottom teams get a lot less so be it.  That way clubs will have plenty of salary cap space to buy better players and even up the comp. While AFL has a draft the need for reform may not be so compelling but it seems this is not the case in the NRL presumably because it is an international sport. 

I know nothing about NRL other than I used to follow the Bears from afar. For info on NRL and AFL salary caps see eg:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rugby_League_salary_cap and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_salary_cap. 

Cheers
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-07, 06:59 PM
That goes against the very reason for the salary cap.

The cap was put in place to save clubs against themselves. By ensuring they didn't spend more then they could afford and get into financial difficulties.

When clubs finish down the back end of the field their membership contributions decline and their sponsor monies are adversely affected.

So allowing them to spend more when their income is less is exactly the opposite of what the cap was meant to provide against.

 

The salary cap was also designed to make sure rich teams do not buy all the talent etc and ensure it was a level playing field.

Most of the competitive sports have a salary cap to level the playing field. Also some have a draft or transfer system. American sports, afl and even soccer has it.

NRL thanks to previous legal actions do not have a transfer or draft.

Most NRL sides take years to get over wooden spoon. Most teams usually do not bounce back to win a competition in next 10 years.

I reckon $250k extra will be a god send to bottom two sides and don’t forget not all sides currently are on salary edge. A few purposely ensure that there is money in case they have to upgrade. They are the good clubs.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Gintara on 2019-Aug-07, 10:05 PM


I reckon $250k extra will be a god send to bottom two sides and don’t forget not all sides currently are on salary edge. A few purposely ensure that there is money in case they have to upgrade. They are the good clubs.

Doing away with 3rd party deals would fix this.

Unfashionable clubs can't attract the sponsors so have to pay the full tote (more cap space) whilst the likes of the Roosters, Broncos etc have people falling over themselves to be involved, thus players accept less but have good top ups outside the cap.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-08, 11:09 AM
I remember in the old days a few footy players who used to play “skins” at golf with sponsors to supplement their salaries.

One of my friends said $100 for purchases at certain sponsors would stretch a long way compared to other stores.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-17, 09:24 PM
Watching the Rabbits over the past few weeks, it will be interesting how Bennett can spark their attack.

Ever since the SOO, their attack has been never reached the heights of earlier rounds. Walker seems a shadow of the early rounds and the forwards are not as fluent as they used to be.

There is a chance with 3 rounds left with games against Brisbane (A), Warriors (A) and Roosters (H), they will be struggling to make top 4.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-18, 09:13 AM
Plenty of the players are busted. Injuries have killed our momentum along with origin  :sad:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-18, 09:45 AM
I agree re Souths being busted, they just seem devoid of attacking options recently.

Manly and Parramatta have a great chance of sneaking into top 4. Hasler has being put up as coach of the year but Arthur with almost a side of no names should be in the mix too.

There are rumblings that another coach will fall by the wayside if their team does not finish season well. The only thing saving him is that he is in rough contention and there are not that many attractive options around as a replacement.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-23, 07:52 AM
Must win game tonight for the Rabbits if they are going to be competitive for rest of the season.

I think they will fire up tonight but Brisbane are desperate too.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-23, 08:34 AM
The boys will fire up but we’re massively under strength and size.
I’m afraid the big broncos pack will steamroll through us
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-23, 11:23 AM
Don’t give up yet. You still have a lot of mobility in your pack. Lodge, Haas, Ofgenhaue, Fifita etc are tough to hold out.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-23, 11:01 PM
What a game. My boys are back. Great effort
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-26, 07:44 AM
Your boys are back by my knights are gone. There have been rumblings for awhile about the culture and coach plus the influence of people outside the playing group.

The current team were expected to make top 8 but it was false hope.

I went to the game on Saturday and left devastated at the lack of effort from some of our players. The desperation and positional play from their win the week before was gone.

The latest theory doing the rounds was that some within the knights structure do not want our team to make the top 8 so our next coach will not be under much pressure and Brown leaves without making the top 8. If this was the case, it is treachery of the highest order.

Andrew Johns alluded to this too.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/andrew-johns-newcastle-knights-nathan-brown-sabotage-troy-pezet/3bd5dcc2-eb15-4299-a8fe-1dda15af63d2
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Aug-26, 08:25 AM
Jeunes, they were pathetic. You’d think they had a lot to play for but I can’t seriously believe they ranked it
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Aug-26, 06:07 PM
Jeunes, they were pathetic. You’d think they had a lot to play for but I can’t seriously believe they ranked it


It is terrible and to be blunt, the coach always pays. Pathetic situation gets even worse below. Regardless of how much you hate the coach, you should try for your teammates and more importantly for the fans.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/nathan-brown-threatens-to-walk-out-on-knights-after-fall-out-with-players/news-story/30d79e67c5f329c78e4773e9f501dfca

While in Souths land, the image of the year with Bennett. Team spirit well and truly on.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/peter-sterling-addresses-wayne-bennett-dressing-room-scene-after-rabbitohs-vs-broncos/34b12b17-4a0c-429f-9ed0-87a3324ae6d5
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-04, 08:20 PM
Brennan and Brown gone.

Rumour is one more coach will go but all depends if the board is prepared to pay out the contract.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Sep-04, 08:29 PM
If it’s Mary & Saints others heads should roll as well
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-05, 07:59 AM
At the start of the year there were a few clubs who wanted their coaches to make the top 8 to survive.

Newcastle and Gold Coast were the only ones to go through with that plan.

Parramatta were an aberration as they made a great start and the top 8 so Arthur received an extension. Mail was Stuart was under slight pressure to go better than last year which he did so well.

The others in question were Pay, Kearney, Macgregor and Green. The boards in some of these clubs extended their contracts as they felt there was no one better or got sold a long term vision.

If sacked some of these coaches have 1-2 years of payouts left so these clubs have to decided between a $1m settlement plus another coach who will want a 3 year contract with no guarantee of success.

Someone I know at one of these clubs said the risk is if they sack the coach is their replacement. No one jumps out as potential replacements eg Griffin, Flanagan and Toovey have experience but left their previous clubs involuntarily. The rookie coaches are an unknown quantity too. The other issue is the backlash from fans regarding the waste of money if they have to pay out contracts for failures.

The coaches also don’t want to leave as there are not many options for them other than England or assistant coach.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Sep-05, 08:12 AM
I’ve been surprised that Griffin & Toovey haven’t been given jobs.

Both would have been ideal for the Gold Coast

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-05, 08:25 AM
WOD, some clubs are shying away from coaches that have been punted or feel can not relate to players or coaches who ask for long term deals or asking price too high.

Not sure if the two you mentioned fall in the above categories or they just wanted someone new to Australia.

Griffin would have been good for the knights. O’Brien might do the same. Griffin was considered tough by his players and not sure how much of that is because some players have been allowed to get away with a few things in the past as he stops that.

Also interestingly some of the big name coaches are asking for 3-5 year deals with no performance indicators until a 2 year lapse. This is more due to the rosters they inherit and salary cap issues.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-05, 09:58 PM
The Roosters v Rabbits game was one of the toughest games I have ever seen in the post fight era.

I just wonder how much they have taken out of each other. Roosters should have been up by 20 at half time. Mitchell dropped more ball this game than he would do for the entire finals series.

Souths are the real deal and defence was magnificent especially when they ran out of players too.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-08, 11:55 AM
Broncos are lucky to qualify for the finals. They need a half.

Raiders were too arrogant when they rested some of their players yesterday.

Roosters v Rabbits will be a great game as both will be licking their wounds from last week.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Sep-15, 05:55 PM
Apologies to Morrison:-
How good did Easts, Manly and Parramatta play this weekend?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-15, 06:36 PM
Don’t underrate the raiders too. I do think the Rabbits and Storm will win next weekend.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Sep-15, 06:50 PM
I'm not underrating them-just that they weren't as impressive as the other three.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-15, 07:02 PM
I'm not underrating them-just that they weren't as impressive as the other three.

I do agree partially. Rabbits were never in it as go forward was crap and it was one of their worst ever. Sharks mentally looked fatigued while broncos were an embarrassment.

Storm threw what they had all game against the raiders. Saying that I think a few of the Storm players were reliant on their team mates than themselves.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-17, 05:28 PM
Looks like some of the Broncos like the pokies. Boyd and Mcculloch reportedly to look for new clubs and Milford on last chance. I am just surprised they did not blame Bennett for this.

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/brisbane-broncos-stars-out-at-sydney-hotel-before-eels-finals-match/660a942a-8276-45b4-936c-59789be75d19
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Sep-17, 05:33 PM
Many are blaming Bennett from what I hear but it’s a nonsense to do so

The blame is the management at the donkeys and their new coach
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-17, 06:21 PM
WOD,  I agree.

Blaming previous coaches is a cop out. It comes down to personalities and how do you reward loyalty to players.

I blame this on the November trade window. You are signing players more than a year out and in that time, you may find juniors or injuries or players out of form or new coaches.

Thus they want players to pay the penalty first. Look at some of the clubs cleaning out a few players but paying for part of their salaries.

If I was a player, I would stick to my guns and say pay me even I play reserve grade or pay me out a year or two.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Sep-17, 06:28 PM
What does "Milford on his last chance" mean?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-17, 08:58 PM
What does "Milford on his last chance" mean?

I was intrigued by that too. Is it off field issues because that is what they say when that occurs?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2019-Sep-23, 04:36 PM
Sam Burgess is being pursued by the NRL for his comments about a "kangaroo court".

Is Des Hasler being similarily pursued for his comments about Manly being dudded?
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Sep-23, 05:55 PM
Not likely
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Sep-23, 08:56 PM
Canberra have not won a premiership since 1994.

Parramatta have not won a premiership since 1986.

If you remember them winning the competitions and you were not in high school then,  you are getting up there in age.

Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Oct-04, 07:56 AM
Is it just me or does this NRL gf does not enhthuse people as much as last few years.

Raiders will be a fairytale for some but Stuart coaching has polarised many neutrals due to Parramatta and Sharks. He has done a great job this year though.

Roosters were usually in the top 3 of the most hated teams in league. But with Tedesco, Cronk, Keary, , Cordner, Manu, Tupou, Mitchell etc it has a team of individuals  which are hard to dislike.
The negative is the brilliance of their salary cap management.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Oct-04, 09:03 AM
Given the list of teams I hate, it’s hard to get excited about a GF :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: arthur on 2019-Oct-04, 10:05 AM
Those pesky contaminated supplements strike again . .  :confused1:
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2019-Oct-04, 04:18 PM
There is Just as much interest in Melbourne in UFC 243 at Marvel Stadium as there is in NRL grand final.

Both on Sunday.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Oct-04, 05:28 PM
There is Just as much interest in Melbourne in UFC 243 at Marvel Stadium as there is in NRL grand final.

Both on Sunday.

I thought UFC was very popular in Melbourne as it is a sell out too.

I think Melbourne interest in the Nrl was the same as most Sydneysiders interest in the AFL gf last week even though it was one of of ours playing Richmond.

I hope the NRL gf is better than the afl as I switched off midway 3 quarters.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: wily ole dog on 2019-Oct-04, 09:16 PM
You did well to last that long. I tortured myself through the fumbleathon for the first quarter

It was a horrible spectacle 
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: Jeunes on 2019-Oct-05, 07:05 AM
You did well to last that long. I tortured myself through the fumbleathon for the first quarter

It was a horrible spectacle

Hope was the only reason I stayed watching. I felt sorry for the neutrals and GWS fans at the game. Too expensive to walk out but I could still turn the channels.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Nov-06, 06:08 PM
Mundine advises Mitchell to 'get as much money as he can' as Tigers, Bulldogs circle

Latrell Mitchell's family friend Anthony Mundine has urged the out-of-favour Sydney Roosters star to "get as much money as he can" as the race for the representative centre's signature heats up.

Mitchell has quickly become the NRL's hottest free agent after Sydney Roosters sensationally pulled their two-year $1.6 million contract offer, with Wests Tigers emerging on Wednesday as a potential suitor along with Canterbury.

The Bulldogs have been linked to Mitchell for months and there was a further development on Wednesday, with the player telling a Canterbury board member that he wants to play fullback.

Roosters sources have told the Herald the club's powerbrokers felt they had been disrespected by Mitchell, who is off contract at the end of next season, when he decided to test his market value with other clubs and left their offer hanging.

The Roosters are also concerned about the number of people in Mitchell's ear.

Club officials believe there are as many as three player agents - Wayde Rushton, Mario Tartak and Matt Rose - offering the 22-year-old advice, as well as Mundine.

Roosters coach Trent Robinson subsequently met with Mitchell on Tuesday to tell him the offer was no longer on the table.

Roosters officials would not say whether they will head back to the negotiation table if Mitchell remained at the club in 2020 but they are quietly confident he will struggle to net offers which will blow their rescinded deal out of the water.

The public breakdown between the glamour club and one of their biggest stars comes as Mundine - who insists he is not a direct advisor of Mitchell's - told the Herald the star centre needs to look after himself and his family by "getting as much money as he can".

"He has to do what's best for him and his family, man," Mundine said.

"He has a kid and another one on the way. He has to do what's best for them and that's to get as much money as he can."

Mundine, who has known Mitchell's father Matt since he crashed on Mundine's cousin's couch during his playing days in Sydney, also questioned the Roosters' loyalty to the NSW State Origin and Kangaroos player.

"They talk about loyalty but they ain't loyal," Mundine said. "If they were, they wouldn't be saying 'we don't want you'.

"You have to look after number one. He should do whatever he wants to do."

If Mitchell is to take Mundine's advice, the Tigers have emerged as the club who may be able to offer the 22-year-old the most immediate cash.

The Tigers were on Wednesday yet to meet with Mitchell or a representative for the centre but according to a club source they are open to the prospect given they now have more than $1.5 million in cap space with Ryan Matterson and Ben Matulino off their books.

The joint venture would be able to afford Mitchell immediately, unlike almost every other Sydney-based suitor, and that could also work in their favour as the Roosters are now prepared to release Mitchell from the final year of his current contract should he find a new football home.

The Tigers are expected to enter the race for his signature soon but who else can actually afford to pay Mitchell his seven-figure asking price remains to be seen.

Mitchell's desire to play fullback could be a complication for the Bulldogs as they have both Dallin Watene-Zelezniak and Nick Meaney on their books already. The club does not have the cap space to accommodate the Taree product in 2020 and neither club chief executive Andrew Hill nor coach Dean Pay have sat down with Mitchell or his management.

Elsewhere, a Souths source told the Herald they are not going to enter the race for Mitchell.

Penrith chief Brian Fletcher said on Wednesday his club had "no interest" in pursuing him.

Newcastle do not have any wiggle room in their cap for 2020 and little more in 2021, though new coach Adam O'Brien did issue a "never say never" response to questions about Mitchell on Wednesday.

https://www.smh.com.au/sport/nrl/mundine-advises-mitchell-to-get-as-much-money-as-he-can-as-tigers-bulldogs-circle-20191106-p5381i.html

If he can get more than $800k then good on him. Go take it. Not worth any more than that. West Tigers in 2020 looks his best bet but I doubt even they would pay $1 million. He'd have to go to England to get that.

Gotta love Mundine's advice

"He has to do what's best for him and his family, man," Mundine said.

What would be best for his family would be to take the offer and get some stability in his life. And not listening the the likes of Mundine.

As Trent said his biggest concern is the number of people getting in Latrell's ear. Looks like there is a cast of thousands with their hand out. Tragic story building up here.
Title: Rugby League 2019
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2019-Nov-06, 06:18 PM
Cody Walker’s contract demands could be too much for Rabbitohs

After four years in Redfern one-time NSW Origin star Cody Walker could be on his way out of South Sydney, with the Rabbitohs unwilling to meet their five-eighth’s asking price.

Former NSW five-eighth Cody Walker may be forced out of Redfern with his asking price considerably higher than what South Sydney are prepared to pay.

Walker’s management team believe their client is worth between $850,000 and $900,000 a year – that’s around $200,000 to $250,000 more than the Rabbitohs plan to offer him.
The Daily Telegraph has been told Souths players and management respect Walker – they claim he is “immensely popular” – and want him to stay.

But the club has a set price in mind – around $650,000 a season – and won’t budge too far from that figure.

No official offer has yet been lodged by Souths with Walker not off contract until the end of next season.

It is understood Souths and Walker’s manager, Matt Rose, have opened preliminary discussions.

While being respectful to Walker, the Rabbitohs have made it clear the club will not pay $850,000 to $900,000 a season for the PM XIII and Country five-eighth.

The $200,000 to $250,000 a-year gap between Walker’s asking price and Souths offer may be difficult to overcome in negotiations.

Souths would look to play gun utility Adam Doueihi at five-eighth should Walker leave. Doueihi transformed into a super fullback throughout last season.

Gold Coast continues to be linked with Walker but neither Rose nor the Titans have confirmed any official contact.

Walker was South Sydney’s stand-in captain last season when Sam Burgess was unavailable. With Burgess and John Sutton now retired, Walker would be a strong option to lead Souths in 2020.

With the NRL’s November 1 deadline having now passed, clubs can make formal offers to players who come off contract after next season.

Walker had a strong start and finish to the 2019 season but his confidence appeared to fall when dropped from the NSW side after Origin I.

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/rabbitohs/cody-walkers-contract-demands-could-be-too-much-for-rabbitohs/

He probably would have been worth that much if he had shown some respect to the NSW coach and knuckled down and concentrated on football and helped win Game 1 of the SOO instead of playing politics.

I suppose Mundine is getting in his ear as well.