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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 12:44 AM





A thread for discussion on the 2018 season.

Halves on the move!

Cooper Cronk : Melbourne Storm <-----> Sydney Roosters
Mitchell Pearce : Sydney Roosters <-----> Newcastle Knights
Josh Reynolds : Canterbury Bulldogs <-----> Wests Tigers
Benji Marshall : Brisbane Broncos <-----> Wests Tigers
Kieran Foran : NZ Warriors <-----> Canterbury Bulldogs
Matt Moylan : Penrith Panthers <-----> Cronulla Sharks
James Maloney : Cronulla Sharks <-----> Penrith Panthers
Jack Bird : Cronulla Sharks <-----> Brisbane Broncos
Ben Hunt : Brisbane Broncos <-----> St George Dragons
Sam Williams : Wakefield Trinity <-----> Canberra Raiders

(https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/bd77754a2fdf7d77fe0119965e2417c3?width=650)
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 12:56 AM
Summary of all the moves and changes from the NRL

http://www.nrl.com/2018-nrl-player-movements/tabid/10874/newsid/112090/default.aspx

Apart from those in the OP, some of the more significant ones a

Adam Blair, Broncos to Warriors
Aaron Woods, Tigers to Bulldogs
James Graham, Bulldogs to Saints
Sam Kasiano, Bulldogs to Storm
Josh Dugan, Saints to Sharks
Chris Heighington, Sharks to Knights
Gerard Beale, Sharks to Warriors
Mitch Rein, Panthers to titans
Chris McQueen, Titans to Tigers
Jarryd Hayne, Titans to Eels
Ryan Hoffman, Warriors to Storm
Connor Watson, Roosters to Knights
Aidan Guerra, Roosters to Knights
Dane Gagai, Knights to Rabbits
Kane Evans, Roosters to Eels
Aaron Gray, Rabbitohs to Sharks
Russell Packer, Saints to Tigers
James Tedesco, Tigers to Roosters

Retirements/Other

Steve Matai (retired),
Brett Stewart (retired)
Matt Ballin (retired)
Anthony Tupou (retired)
Isaac De Gois (retired)
Jeff Robson (retired)
Semi Radradra (rugby union)
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 01:01 AM
Early market from UBET

Team Premiers Top 4 Final 8 Minor Premiers
Sydney Roosters $5.50 $1.80 $1.20 $4.75
North QLD Cowboys $6.00 $2.00 $1.25 $5.50
Melbourne Storm $6.50 $1.90 $1.22 $5.50
Brisbane Broncos $10.00 $2.50 $1.40 $10.00
Penrith Panthers $11.00 $2.50 $1.50 $10.00
Cronulla Sharks $13.00 $3.25 $1.60 $13.00
Parramatta Eels $13.00 $2.85 $1.50 $13.00
Manly Sea Eagles $15.00 $3.00 $1.70 $15.00
South Sydney Rabbitohs $15.00 $3.50 $1.70 $15.00
Canberra Raiders $17.00 $3.75 $1.75 $15.00
St George Illa $21.00 $5.00 $2.00 $21.00
Newcastle Knights $26.00 $6.00 $2.75 $34.00
Bulldogs $34.00 $7.00 $3.00 $41.00
New Zealand Warriors $41.00 $9.00 $3.50 $51.00
Gold Coast Titans $51.00 $11.00 $4.25 $67.00
Wests Tigers $51.00 $11.00 $4.50 $67.00
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2017-Dec-05, 06:21 AM
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2017-Dec-05, 07:44 AM
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:

Along with Des Hasler.

Any other coaching changes? I can't keep up   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2017-Dec-05, 09:02 AM
The titans had one as well
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-04, 12:16 AM
So if Mitchell Pearce gets caught on camera drunk acting like an idiot he gets 9 weeks.

But if you are a Broncos player - no worries. You can keep playing. No penalty.

Matthew Lodge attack victims speak out as CCTV footage emerges of NRL player's drunken assault

The victims of a violent home invasion in New York by rugby league player Matthew Lodge say they feel betrayed by the National Rugby League for allowing him to play while their court ordered compensation remains unpaid.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/matthew-lodge-attack-victims-speak-out/9504796

Reminds me to put my annual bet on the "media darling" teams in the NRL - way ahead over the years using this strategy.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-04, 07:20 AM
Disgraceful
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-06, 09:47 PM
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-09, 07:32 AM
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-09, 08:41 AM
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.

I actually do not think they should be spending billions. If it actually costs that much then it is too expensive (somehow I doubt it costs that much to renovate and there is a degree of "gold digging" incorporated in the price).

As you say Jeunes, most games the stadiums are only 10-20% full.

As someone commented, it would be cheaper to knock down the old stadiums and build new ones at that price.

Would love to see an itemization of the multi-billion dollar estimates, and in particular how much was proposed being spent on corporate boxes.

Corporate Boxes - where the social elite get free food and wine and watch the games in luxurious comfort, usually at the expense of the hapless shareholders of a company or worse still, a government department.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Mar-09, 01:31 PM
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Devil on 2018-Mar-09, 02:51 PM
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.
As a Titans follower I fear we might have a hold of the spoon by the season end
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-09, 05:16 PM
I like their pack, Devil.
If the halved perform they'll go better than you think
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-09, 07:06 PM
Great win. But a long way to be really competitive in the top echelons of the competition.

Great crowd and again the passion is there.

If we stop the competition now, we will be in the top 8.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-09, 10:01 PM
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :thankyou:

 :sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Couldn't find an emoji for broken record  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-09, 10:57 PM
Melbourne Storm home games

Say what  :/
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Mar-10, 09:32 AM
:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Couldn't find an emoji for broken record  :whistle:

Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-10, 10:34 AM
I do
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-10, 09:00 PM
The only way Sydney will fill the stadiums more than usual is double headers.

At least with Afl, every Melb team plays in the two stadiums. Sydney does not have the geography to accommodate this and the fans do not travel at times from Manly, Cronulla and Roosters etc.

Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.



Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-10, 09:01 PM
Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.

You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-10, 09:08 PM


Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.

How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-10, 09:25 PM
You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.

Mate there are two issues.
i) Do the grounds need some renovations - agree they probably do
ii) The cost.

$2.7 billion is outrageous. Who makes these things up? How could it possibly cost $2.7 billion to renovate something that is worth significantly less than that in sum value.

Are they incorporating the cost of paying off the CFMEU to allow workers on site?  Are they putting gold inlay into the seats?

Tradesmen are in such short supply in Sydney a lot of people are just putting up with things rather than pay exorbitant costs. Maybe we have to do the same with the Stadiums?

There has to be a point at which politicians say "we cannot afford that".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-10, 09:55 PM
How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.



I was trying to imply Concord Oval was a crap location but at that time, it was amongst the best options. Same for Allianz as it was next to the SCG.

I have been to a fair few sporting venues around Australia and the biggest issue from suburban grounds to the major stadiums is transport.

I must be getting older but the thrill of queuing and fighting crowds to sit in a hard plastic chair with overpriced food has evaporated with the advent of pay tv etc. However I do try to see at least 1 live Afl and Nrl every year.


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-11, 07:35 AM
PP I agree on the costs   emthup

This is being built out my way http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/5271297/photos-nepean-river-bridge-on-target-for-october/?cs=1810

Anyone who does the river walk knows a better crossing on the Nth was needed but how can it cost that? Why does it talk so long?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-11, 07:48 AM
A walking bridge. Shite. Try driving through Richmond trying to cross the river to Kurrajong.
Probably bloody quicker to walk
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-11, 07:58 AM
PP I agree on the costs   emthup

This is being built out my way http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/5271297/photos-nepean-river-bridge-on-target-for-october/?cs=1810

Anyone who does the river walk knows a better crossing on the Nth was needed but how can it cost that? Why does it talk so long?

The cost blowouts are related to the time it takes I reckon. And I further reckon they are no accident.

Some of the costs put forward to perform public works in Sydney are not only outrageous, but they seem to escape any scrutiny.

I was all for the upgrade of the Stadiums until they started mentioning the costs.

The cynic in me thinks that there are some players here who cannot wait to get their grubby hands on some of the taxpayers cash.

With thinks like Stadium upgrades, the NBN, NDIS, West Connex and a whole raft of multi-billion dollar "projects" going on, is it any wonder it is nigh unaffordable to raise a family with a mortgage these days.

We have got to start questioning these costs.

There was one with the NDIS the other day and them paying $1.3 million for "strategic advice" that was picked up in the media.

I would have thought if you employ execs on big bucks then it is implied that the taxpayers get "strategic advice" as part of the execs package. Apparently not  :/


Anyway back to the League.

As a Roosters fan I can tell you that there is not a lot of good feeling toward the coach about the treatment of Mitchell Pearce and the loss last night has done nothing to improve that feeling.

That market they have on the first coach to get the bullet - might find a big surprise if Easts don't start winning games pretty soon.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Mar-11, 08:24 AM
Early days yet but not a lot of confidence in some of the combinations yet.

I think the coaches of Roosters, Broncos, Panthers, Warriors, Raiders and Dragons will be under the most pressure this year. The coaches of Tigers, Knights, Souths, Bulldogs and Titans have some time to go.

After round 5, it will be interesting to see what happens after the merry go around of players for this season. Warriors and Tigers winning certainly upset a few multis including mine.

Knights have a long way to be competitive against the better side as their forwards looked old at times. But I am confident we can avoid the spoon.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-11, 08:29 AM
Warriors were exceptional last night and combined with plenty of luck were too good for my bunnies
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-11, 11:49 AM


There was one with the NDIS the other day and them paying $1.3 million for "strategic advice" that was picked up in the media.

I would have thought if you employ execs on big bucks then it is implied that the taxpayers get "strategic advice" as part of the execs package. Apparently not  :/




Still off topic but   :lol:

I feel they use 'consultants' etc has it provides a level of deniability  :chin:

One local council I deal with have recently paid over $75k for a consultant all to provide a report that outlines what the division & manager I deal with was already doing. There is a fully costed strategic short & long term plan in place yet this other area of the council thought it was somehow prudent to waste this money.

I irony is the current plan was devised for free.  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-18, 12:41 PM
The entire media focus when Wests Tigers beat Easts in Round 1 was on Easts.

Somehow they forgot to analyze the game and give credit where credit was due.

After round 2 it is obvious that Cleary has the Tigers defensive patterns down pat conceding only 16 points in two games.

You stop the other teams scoring points you win games.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-23, 08:41 AM
Well, well (well)! Like I said at the time of the Eels drama that there is a stink to this when one of the transcripts had Seward referring to asking Todd "What they do at the Dogs"

Yet we end up with Greenberg running the game.


NRL boss Todd Greenberg denies wrongdoing after explosive Kieran Foran report



By AAP
10 hours ago

 

Greenberg to be scrutinised



NRL CEO Todd Greenberg has declared he has nothing to hide, Manly allegedly seeking to discredit him as the Sea Eagles' salary-cap investigation draws to a conclusion.

Greenberg said the game's governing body hoped in the next week or so to hand down its findings into allegations the Sea Eagles had rorted the salary cap and offered illegal third-party agreements to players.

Fairfax Media reported Manly had pointed to a contract, offered to Kieran Foran by Canterbury in 2012 when Greenberg was CEO of the Bulldogs.

It was alleged Greenberg was guilty of bending the rules in a fashion similar to what the Sea Eagles had been accused of.

However Greenberg said he was satisfied he had nothing to hide and stood by his actions.

"I think you're referring to a negotiation that happened with Kieran Foran back in 2011 or 2012," Greenberg said.

"I'm completely aware of that. I'm completely comfortable with my track record, both in the club and with that particular negotiation. He ended up not signing.

"I've been a proponent of players earning additional income outside of their contract fees but understanding about the rules. So I'm very comfortable."

Asked if he was worried he had become a target of those he was investigating, Greenberg said: "I've been around long enough to know sometimes these sorts of things happen.

"It happened around the Parramatta investigation. I have to make the best decisions for the game, I have to report to a chairman and a commission and I have to be completely transparent with them.

"Leadership and popularity are different. I'm going to have to lead on this decision and we will. It won't please everyone and I understand that."

Greenberg said he had not done anything illegal in his attempt to lure Foran to the Dogs along with then coach Des Hasler.

"The irony is when I took this job, one of the things people said was 'it's great to have someone that's experienced at club level'. But when you've been at club level, you've been experienced in all these things," Greenberg said.

"Everyone comes from somewhere, I enjoyed my time as a club CEO and I'm very comfortable with how I handled myself."
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-23, 05:22 PM
Still off topic but   :lol:

I feel they use 'consultants' etc has it provides a level of deniability  :chin:

One local council I deal with have recently paid over $75k for a consultant all to provide a report that outlines what the division & manager I deal with was already doing. There is a fully costed strategic short & long term plan in place yet this other area of the council thought it was somehow prudent to waste this money.

I irony is the current plan was devised for free.  :shutup:

The price in the most recent reports has gone up to $3 billion.

I'm working on the 2018 Commonwealth Games and in an induction they stated that the total amount spent on upgrading the existing facilities to accommodate the Games was $200 million.

Where on this Lord's earth are they getting a figure of $3 billion from for the stadium upgrades???

I hope the government holds their ground and says no. You just know that a lot of that money will be going into the pockets of people who are just scamming the taxpayers.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Mar-24, 12:03 AM
Just catching up with some games.

How about that penalty that gifted Brisbane the game against the Tigers? They have to be kidding!! They are not even trying to hide the favoritism any more.

They may as well have virtual rugby league - a bit like Trackside. They can contrive the results to make the most money and the suckers will come back for more.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-24, 06:44 AM
Im loving the way the refs are going about their job this season. Hope they keep it up.
The clubs and players need to be pulled into line. They've bent the rues and changed the game way too much
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-24, 04:25 PM
Trouble with that Wily was why choose then to do it?

If you went through the game you'd find tonnes of similar play the balls.

You could argue he was -

1) square
2) the player playing the ball walked off the mark
3) he didn't have any effect on the play.

It was a shocking penalty  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-26, 12:35 PM
who was that nutcase Manly supporter who was here.
  :lol:

no surprise theyve been busted and No surprise that germ Fulton is in it up to his ears.

should never have been an Imortal and should be stripped of the honour
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: richo on 2018-Mar-27, 08:03 PM
go dragons
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-27, 09:13 PM
who was that nutcase Manly supporter who was here.
  :lol:

no surprise theyve been busted and No surprise that germ Fulton is in it up to his ears.

should never have been an Imortal and should be stripped of the honour

and no surprise to see massive double standards in the penalties handed down from the NRL / Greenberg  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Mar-30, 09:03 PM

Penalties, penalties, penalties. :rant: :rant: :rant:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Mar-30, 10:27 PM
Yes agree , starting to look like Rugby Union.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Mar-31, 06:35 AM
Loving  the penalties.
Coaches have held the game to ransom for too long.
Stuff them, stop cheating
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Mar-31, 11:29 AM
I think it's when they are blowing them Wily.

You could find something wrong every play the ball if you wanted to. Last night was a shocker  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Mar-31, 12:33 PM
I think its simple. The teams think this will not be continued by the refs and expect them to cave in.

They also have their mates in the media pushing the "it's ruining the game" line.

I hope they stick with it.

I think the only thing they are doing wrong is not binning the players more.

If a team has 2 or 3 in the bin in 1 game because they don't want to learn and are playing the game of chicken with the refs then guess what the coach will have that fixed up in a week.  ;)

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-01, 10:45 AM
Who was that who ran the water for Canterbury on Friday?

Been racking my brain but his name won't come to me. :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin: :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-01, 10:56 AM
Got me beat but can anyone explain why Cordner went to the head bin with a sore shoulder?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-02, 05:41 PM
Why are west’s playing in blue
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Apr-02, 06:16 PM
There our new colours. Don't you like it.


or maybe its this   ;)

https://www.weststigers.com.au/news/2018/03/26/wests-tigers-and-parramatta-to-support-stay-kind-initiative/
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Apr-02, 06:28 PM
There’s always a reason. I guess I need to put it in my “uncontrollable basket”
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Apr-02, 06:59 PM
There's usually a couple a cracking jerseys in the indigenous round. Apart from that there all mostly average.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Apr-15, 09:00 PM
Ok. It is round 6 and there has been som interesting results this year.

First coach to be fired could take some more rounds.  I cannot see any of the bottom sides getting rid of anyone.

Dark horse could be Manly if the inconsistency continues and they miss out too on top 8.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Apr-21, 09:56 AM
I'm no wrap for Darius Boyd but I love the audio when he was called out by Klein to 'explain' the Slater 'try'

Boyd can be seen laughing at Klein saying 'this is going to be good ....' to which Klein responds 'No, No he had intent and he's allowed to drop kick it' all you can hear is Boyd just say 'Wow!'

It's about the only response you could give for such a flawed decision.

All this while vision of Slater is being played telling his team mates that it will be no try as he dropped it.

Anyone that has followed RL for 5 minutes would say that's a knock on  :bulb:

Todd Greenburg will go down as the man who presided over the NRL and drove it to ruin.  :wavecry:
 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-21, 05:16 PM
So what's the story? :what: :what:

From what I could hear Josh Reynolds was on the line with Fox for the Souths V Canberra game on the same day that West Tigers are playing.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Apr-25, 01:46 PM
So what's the story? :what: :what:

From what I could hear Josh Reynolds was on the line with Fox for the Souths V Canberra game on the same day that West Tigers are playing.

I think he was excused from having to travel up to Tamworth.

P.S. Had the game on the TV and was glancing at it. Took me 20 minutes to work out that Benji wasn't wearing a Black and Gold jersey. Not sure what the f. that was about  :what:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Apr-28, 07:09 PM
In times gone by the conversion kick was taken according to the following

A kick at goal after a try may be taken from any point
on an imaginary line drawn parallel to the touch line
in the field of play and through the point where the try
was awarded.


These days the  kicks are taken from anywhere the kicker wishes.

Most recent  example was when Rein just scored in this match adjacent to the upright not between the posts.

Yet the conversion kick was taken about a yard wide of the black dot at the centre of the posts.


   
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Apr-29, 11:16 AM
Insufficient evidence.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 01:23 PM
There was nothing accidental about this.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-May-19, 02:00 PM
Your kidding surely Auth  :what:

Play it in full, Nappa goes up to make a tackle and Sims puts on a sidestep which causes Nappa to be out of position causing the accidental head clash.

It's neither a sin bin or a penalty  emthdown

Should have been knock on, Roosters scrum feed.

Once again the refs influencing the results of matches  emthdown

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 02:18 PM
He was purposely leading with the head Nate Myles style.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-May-19, 04:09 PM
 :no:

It only ended up like that due to Sims sidestep.

While it won't help the Roosters from last night, Nappa has escaped sanction.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-May-19, 05:03 PM
The photo 2 up shows that means very little, DCE is clearly eye gouging yet got off.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-May-19, 07:29 PM
Your kidding surely Auth  :what:

Play it in full, Nappa goes up to make a tackle and Sims puts on a sidestep which causes Nappa to be out of position causing the accidental head clash.

It's neither a sin bin or a penalty  emthdown

Should have been knock on, Roosters scrum feed.

Once again the refs influencing the results of matches  emthdown

Brisbane got lucky again however with the injuries etc they had it was a good effort. The draw is more favourable over next few weeks so it will be interesting if they can challenge for a top 4.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Skybeau on 2018-Jun-14, 02:48 PM
Can one of you Northerners please explain the constant salary cap issues that go on in League?  Didn't Woods just move to the Bulldogs not long ago, now looking at going to Cronulla?  Have League club administrators heard of Excel?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jun-14, 05:09 PM
Greed mate. Pure and simple. They tweak the system to get the best short term benefit and ignore the long term
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 08:31 AM
Can one of you Northerners please explain the constant salary cap issues that go on in League?  Didn't Woods just move to the Bulldogs not long ago, now looking at going to Cronulla?  Have League club administrators heard of Excel?

I thought you were talking to people north of the harbour bridge   :lol:

Salary Caps will never work. There are more favourable terms for some clubs over others. AFL people would be aware of the rules applied to NSW and Qld vs. the rest of the country. Not too dissimilar here with Qld clubs and Souths getting away with blue murder.....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Jun-15, 09:55 AM
I thought you were talking to people north of the harbour bridge   :lol:

Salary Caps will never work. There are more favourable terms for some clubs over others. AFL people would be aware of the rules applied to NSW and Qld vs. the rest of the country. Not too dissimilar here with Qld clubs and Souths getting away with blue murder.....

and no mentioned of The Rorters.
  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 10:50 AM
Geez that one hung out there for over an hour without a bite   :lol:

Are Sam Burgess' TV contracts and Greg Inglis' "Indigenous Ambassador" salaries counted toward the cap  :what:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jun-15, 06:00 PM
Geez that one hung out there for over an hour without a bite   :lol:

Are Sam Burgess' TV contracts and Greg Inglis' "Indigenous Ambassador" salaries counted toward the cap  :what:

I think you’ll find they are mate but I stand to be corrected

Given that the NRL refuse us any 3rd parties that Crowe is involved, we are harshly treated.
Uncle Nick Politis uses his contacts for 3rd parties and it’s all okay :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jun-15, 10:46 PM
State Of Origin trivia fact.

Barry Muir, the former Queensland Coach who coined the term "cockroaches" to describe his NSW opposition, is actually a cockroach himself by birth -

Full name    Barry A Muir
Born    18 September 1937 (age 80)
Tweed Heads, New South Wales, Australia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barry_Muir
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jul-20, 08:25 PM
I see Brisbane have got their hometown Friday Night refs back.

They have destroyed the game with less than 20 minutes played.  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Jul-20, 08:41 PM
Ive been watching but mostly distracted, what have the refs done wrong?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Jul-20, 10:46 PM
Ive been watching but mostly distracted, what have the refs done wrong?

A couple of dubious ones in the leadup to 20-0 - Joey was onto them.  ;)

And in the earlier match:

NRL admits touch judge erred on controversial Katoa try

The NRL admitted the decision by a touch judge to raise his flag in the lead-up to a controversial try was wrong and promised a review of the incident that cost the Raiders in their 28-24 loss to Cronulla on Friday night.

While Canberra coach Ricky Stuart expressed fears rugby league is losing fans due to dramas related to match and review officials, an NRL spokesperson confirmed Sione Katoa's controversial four-pointer [57th minute] will be reviewed after the Referees Bunker overturned the on-field decision of 'no try'.

....

"But we've ruined the first 14 rounds of the competition. We've lost fans, I know so many people who have turned off rugby league because of it.

"But then halfway through the year Todd [NRL boss Todd Greenberg] comes out and says he told the referees to stop nit-picking.

"We're the only sport in the world that changes interpretations midway through the year.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/07/20/nrl-admits-touch-judge-erred-in-match-between-canberra-raiders-and-cronulla-sharks/

I'm one of the fans that is "turned off rugby league" like Ricky says. Tonight was the first game I've watched in ages.

The refs are too inconsistent.

I can cop the odd mistake.

But it is the interpretative stuff that is inconsistent.

As everybody knows, some teams are allowed to lie on the players in the play-the-ball area for longer than others. It is as simple as that.

I would rather see the game slow down and that they get rid of those penalties rather than continue to go how they are going.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-06, 08:45 PM
NRL continues to confuse me more and more each day.

Anthony Griffen sacked from the Panthers while 5th and pretty much certainties to make the finals.  Why would they do this?

Skyb - Phil Gould is the director of football for the Panthers, he pulls the strings.

Before a ball was even kicked this season there was talk that Griffin was in trouble, had lost the young captain through the off season etc and big rumour of a half time blow up with Gus.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-08, 09:59 PM
Skyb - heard Gould described today as the Lloyd Williams of the NRL - calls the shots & pulls the strings but doesn't put his name in the book.

Pretty accurate really  :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-09, 09:10 AM
Agree and I don't know why Cleary would sell his soul to go back there.

Terrific interview with Griffin on NRL360 last night. Said the only reason he got sacked is because he and Gus don't get on.

All the other stuff being spun by Gould is just complete bull$hit.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Skybeau on 2018-Aug-10, 07:31 AM
Skyb - Phil Gould is the director of football for the Panthers, he pulls the strings.

Before a ball was even kicked this season there was talk that Griffin was in trouble, had lost the young captain through the off season etc and big rumour of a half time blow up with Gus.

He sounds like a twat. Re the tunnel blow up, there’s a time and a place for having a chat, surely at half time isn’t that time.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 08:37 AM
Agree and I don't know why Cleary would sell his soul to go back there.

Terrific interview with Griffin on NRL360 last night. Said the only reason he got sacked is because he and Gus don't get on.

All the other stuff being spun by Gould is just complete bull$hit.

That’s all well and good for Griffin to say that but I suspect the truth lays somewhere else
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-10, 10:38 AM
The team is running 4th four weeks out from finals and a good chance to go deep into the finals. No coach in the history of the game or any other game I can think of has been sacked in that position.

I get the plan of keeping Nathan there by getting his dad as the coach but clearly Griffin wasn't allowing Gus to tell him how to coach, Gus couldn't handle that, they don't get on, so Gus punted him. There is no other explanation.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-10, 12:13 PM
I've always been a big fan of Gould from the time he played with Souths.

It was apparent then that he was to turn his hand to coaching once he retired as he was really the deputy coach to Piggins.

Later on his opinion pieces in the Herald and his TV commentary were reasoned and well-argued.

However for the past 10-15 years or so he has lost me.

This change of mine began due to his constant harping, regardless of the state of the match, when teams elected to have a kick for goal rather than a tap and run.

I now regard him as a big-headed boofhead who thinks he's the only one who knows anything about League.








 

     
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Aug-10, 12:19 PM
Couldn't agree more. I and I'm sure anyone with Foxtel will only watch Foxtel if Ch9 is doing the same game and Gould is commentating. Having to listen to him for SOO games is painful.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 12:34 PM
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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-10, 12:36 PM
The ratings may show otherwise. The only time I favour fox is when Hadley is commentating on 9

As to Griffin, the team being in the finals is covering the cracks They have played crap for the past 2 months after a very good start to the season. Mind you! It was a very soft draw for them as well

Having 50 put on them 3 games ago and getting out of jail in the dying minutes against the raiders & manly isn’t a team who would win the comp, despite their immense talent. They needed a change
They will  improve out of sight now Griffin is gone
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-10, 04:34 PM
That’s all well and good for Griffin to say that but I suspect the truth lays somewhere else

It's one of my favourite sayings Wily "the truth normally lies somewhere in the middle"

They'd both be right & both be wrong in instances.

Pure and simple, this is all about Cleary ..... Nathan that is  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:32 AM
I've always been a big fan of Gould from the time he played with Souths.

It was apparent then that he was to turn his hand to coaching once he retired as he was really the deputy coach to Piggins.

Later on his opinion pieces in the Herald and his TV commentary were reasoned and well-argued.

However for the past 10-15 years or so he has lost me.

This change of mine began due to his constant harping, regardless of the state of the match, when teams elected to have a kick for goal rather than a tap and run.

I now regard him as a big-headed boofhead who thinks he's the only one who knows anything about League.


I honestly think he is seriously depressed to the point I am concerned about him. You carefully listen to his voice on the commentary. It is the voice of someone who is struggling to see the positive side of anything. He seeks out negativity.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:33 AM
....Oh. And before I forget. The Roosters beat Souths last night to pinch the top place in the comp off them - nothing depressing in that   :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-11, 08:22 PM
It is becoming painfully obvious that St George ejaculated some time during June or July.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-11, 08:37 PM
How does Graham get away with his use of his head in tackles?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: ratsack on 2018-Aug-11, 08:49 PM
It is becoming painfully obvious that St George ejaculated some time during June or July.

not watching  sad
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-28, 08:56 PM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Aug-29, 06:39 AM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:

The suspicion is they may have pushed the boundaries as they attempted to keep the bulk of the side that took the club to their maiden premiership.   :angel:

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/sport/nrl/nrl-salary-cap-investigation-rocks-cronulla/news-story/1c833d08296e372bad3e610846c8d45f

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-29, 07:21 AM
The 3rd party deal structure needs to be overhauled
It’s not working
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Aug-29, 11:06 AM
The 3rd party deal structure needs to be overhauled
It’s not working

  :lol:

You've just come to that conclusion Wily  :chin:

The whole thing is stuffed as it creates a bigger gap in the 'haves and have nots' which is the exact thing the salary cap is trying to stop  :shutup:

Clubs like Brisbane, The Roosters, Melb etc are awash with corporate money whilst say the Wests Tigers would be lucky to find a free train ticket from Leumeah station  :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Aug-29, 11:13 AM
Put the porch lights back on Cronulla  :whistle:

  :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Aug-29, 07:34 PM
 :lol:

You've just come to that conclusion Wily  :chin:



No but I reckon it’s the first time here I could raise it :thumbsup:

I’m not concerned about 5he have and have nots but it’s whats allowed and not that is the issue
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-09, 05:30 PM
They couldn't possibly come back from this can they?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-09, 05:37 PM
Hold your hats here they come
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-17, 06:36 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Sep-17, 06:49 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.


Surely the immunity the roosters get on Uncle Nick rorting the cap is enough of an advantage PP7?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-17, 07:04 PM

Surely the immunity the roosters get on Uncle Nick rorting the cap is enough of an advantage PP7?
Rorting. What rorting? We had to let some pretty good players go to get the best signings plus there is the salary cut players are willing to take to be at such a wonderful club.

And why does Sam Burgess get a walk over something that would result in most players being immediately suspended?



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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-17, 08:22 PM
Latest news I've seen says that the young lady may have sent  :censored: pix to the Souths boys . . .

Who were so upset by her actions, that they responded in kind . .




As any happily married expectant father would do  :whistle:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-17, 08:53 PM
Can someone tell me who decides on penalties for off field lewd behaviour by players?

If you are a Canterbury player on Mad Monday you get the book thrown at you.

If you are Mitchell Pierce and act up on video you get sent to the Unidted States and miss out on 9 weeks.

But if you are Sam Burgess you can do what you want  :what:

Well at least if we aren't going to be allowed to have our best player Mitchell playing then Souths lose their best player because he did exactly the same thing...oh hang on a minute  :shutup:

Echos of Luke Rickettson GF suspension on trumped up Telegraph charge.

With the greatest respect Pp, you don’t have or know the facts. I understand  that as a rorters supporter you are always in the bunnies shadow but that should not sway the thinking of an intelligent bloke like yourself  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-18, 08:50 AM
No surprise to see Paul Kent on NRL360 running for the hills and doing backflips on the story he sat on then broke.
Another filthy jurno who was rightfully sitting next to a bigger germ, Rothfield.
I note old Phil was very quiet as well. I wonder if it’s anything to do with the inappropriate photos of the dirty old grub with a scantily clad “entertainer” on his knee at a recent function
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-18, 09:09 AM
Geez I feel sorry for Ben Hunt who, once again, is copping the blame for a loss in a big game. I don't get why he has to wear the blame for a loss while the teflon coated wonder boy Cleary escapes any criticism after completely butchering the Panthers last 2 sets in their loss.


Should Hunt have kicked it? Yeah probably but no one seems to have noticed the fact there were THREE unmarked players outside the bloke he passed to who seems to have also escaped any criticism for not passing the ball and taking the tackle.


It seems Hunt is just going to be one of these unfortunate players whose mistakes get blown out of all proportion while his brilliance, as displayed in the try he scored, is almost overlooked. Clearly he is a risk taker who is prepared to chance his arm to win a game, so you have to accept with those sort of players, taking those risks will not always pay off.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-20, 09:32 AM
Who runs the marketing department of the NRL ?

On Friday night at AAMI Stadium Melbourne Storm hosts Cronulla in the Preliminary final, not 600 metres, away at the MCG, Richmond play Collingwood in an AFL Preliminary final.

A crowd of 100,000 are expected at the MCG, whilst at AAMI Stadium maybe 25,000 will turn up. On Saturday night both stadiums will be empty.

Surely the NRL have missed a golden opportunity to promote NRL in Melbourne by not having the Storm vs Cronulla game on Saturday night.

Not only would a Saturday night game attract a larger crowd, received more publicity, but the promotion of what could be Billy Slater's last game would have been an added attraction.

BTW on his  retirement Slater and his wife, both born and bred in far north Queensland, will stay in Victoria on a 8ha property on the Mornington Peninsular to run Slater Throughbreds. His wife said, "we thought about moving back to Queensland, but Melbourne is home, and we love the people"

Surprisingly the other NRL Preliminary final between the Roosters & the Rabbitohs is on Saturday night......... could that have been on Friday night ?

Is there any logical reason or reasons why those NRL games were programmed on those nights ? TV rights ? Do more people attend Saturday night games in Sydney than on Friday nights ?

OR

Have Melbourne Storm been too successful under Craig Bellamy and the NRL care little of promoting the game in Melbourne in view of the following..

A : Seasons in the finals 15: Storm only missed the finals in 2010 as part of salary cap breach penalties. Playing for no points they won 14 games , enough to finish 5th.

B: Finals played 36 won 24 lost 12

C: Preliminary finals :10

D: Grand Finals 7 : 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2012, 2016, 2017

E: Premierships 4: 2007,2009. 2012,2017 ( 2007 & 2009 lost for salary cap breaches )

F: State of Origin / International debuts under Bellamy :19
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-20, 09:37 PM
So moving it to Saturday night might have brought 5k more fans?  :shrug:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-20, 11:16 PM
Plus the added coverage in the media,do not the NRL want the game to grow outside of Queensland  and NSW ? They are doing a damn giood job of alienating fans in Victoria, and as for sports fans in SA, Tas or WA they could careless. The only reason NRL rates well on tv is because the combined population of NSW and Queensland is greater than all those southern states, but if the NRL had enough foresight they would know that will not continue into the future. Melbourne alone will eventually overtake Sydney on population.

Not that I am any rapt for the AFL administration but they play the NRL on a break.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-21, 11:36 AM
The only reason NRL rates well on tv is because the combined population of NSW and Queensland is greater than all those southern states,

I know you have a chip on your shoulder and are only ever stirring to get a rise Bubba but that statement above is one of the silliest 'clasping at straws' I've seen from you yet  :sleep:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Sep-21, 12:25 PM
"chip"?

More like a bloody great big telegragh pole.


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-21, 07:20 PM
.What about offering an explanation for the programming of the preliminary final of Melbourne Storm on Friday night rather than Saturday night. What a lost opportunity by the NRL to promote rugby league in Melbourne with no AFL game in Melbourne on Saturday and the only AFL game is in Perth, with a two hour time difference .
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-21, 07:29 PM
I know you have a chip on your shoulder and are only ever stirring to get a rise Bubba but that statement above is one of the silliest 'clasping at straws' I've seen from you yet  :sleep:

 As hardly anyone actually goes to NFL games, as against the attendances at the AFL, I presume they all sit at home and watch NRL on tv, but only in Queensland & NSW.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-21, 07:49 PM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-22, 07:37 PM
The largest EVER attendance at any sporting in WA today 59,000 at AFL game between West Coast and Melbourne, following up 93.000 at MCG last night,
26.000 at AAMI last night , how many tonight at game between Roosters & South Sydney ?

50,000 ?? 45,000  ??

100/1 more than 75,000

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-22, 07:40 PM


100/1 more than 75,000

Gee, that would mean 35,000 odd standing outside  :shutup:

 :sleep:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-22, 07:50 PM
Gee, that would mean 35,000 odd standing outside  :shutup:

 :sleep:
True the ground capacity is 45,000, however if that AFL preliminary between West Coast & Melbourne had been held at the MCG they would have got 85,000 +

Why would not the NRL hold  that preliminary final in a ground with greater capacity  if they thought they would get more ?

45,000 would attend any  game at the MCG in the home & away season, let alone a preliminary final
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-23, 07:44 AM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?

Bump
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-23, 09:58 AM
Bubba, have you heard of an AFL team called GWS?

Yes, they are just not good enough to progress deep into the AFL finals, however with the support they get in Western Sydney ultimate success is just around the corner. :no1:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-23, 10:03 AM
Yes, they are just not good enough to progress deep into the AFL finals, however with the support they get in Western Sydney ultimate success is just around the corner. :no1:

Support?

Can you tell me their crowds at home for their past 6 rounds?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-23, 11:21 AM
True the ground capacity is 45,000, however if that AFL preliminary between West Coast & Melbourne had been held at the MCG they would have got 85,000 +

Why would not the NRL hold  that preliminary final in a ground with greater capacity  if they thought they would get more ?

45,000 would attend any  game at the MCG in the home & away season, let alone a preliminary final

Finished cleaning the egg off your  face Bubba?

Anyway, why? Because anyone with a brain would know that would mean playing the game in a stadium that wasn't best suited to NRL viewing. There's a reason they are knocking down ANZ  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:12 AM
Support?

Can you tell me their crowds at home for their past 6 rounds?

 Bubba , any luck in getting those GWS figures?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:44 AM
Here you go bubba, this shows the low crowds at the AFL this year.So embarrassing numbers

Lowest Home & Away Crowds
3722   Gold Coast v North Melbourne   Cazaly's Stadium   2018
6060   Gold Coast v Melbourne   Gabba   2018
6450   Western Bulldogs v Port Adelaide   Eureka Stadium   2018
6833   Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast   Eureka Stadium   2018
6989   Melbourne v Adelaide   Traeger Park   2018
7131   Greater Western Sydney v Gold Coast   Sydney Showground   2018
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Oval   2018
8689   Melbourne v Fremantle   Marrara Oval   2018
9007   Hawthorn v Gold Coast   York Park   2018
9253   Greater Western Sydney v West Coast   Sydney Showground   2018
10046   Greater Western Sydney v Brisbane Lions   Sydney Showground   2018
10181   Gold Coast v St Kilda   Carrara   2018
10454   Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs   Manuka Oval   2018
10689   Gold Coast v Port Adelaide   Jiangwan Stadium   2018
10776   Gold Coast v Carlton   Carrara   2018
10789   Greater Western Sydney v Essendon   Sydney Showground   2018
10866   Greater Western Sydney v Hawthorn   Sydney Showground   2018
11176   North Melbourne v West Coast   Bellerive Oval   2018
11267   Brisbane Lions v Greater Western Sydney   Gabba   2018
11356   Greater Western Sydney v Fremantle   Manuka Oval   2018
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:47 AM

Melbourne Clubs

6450   Western Bulldogs v Port Adelaide   Eureka Stadium   2018
6833   Western Bulldogs v Gold Coast   Eureka Stadium   2018
6989   Melbourne v Adelaide   Traeger Park   2018
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Ov 2018
8689   Melbourne v Fremantle   Marrara Oval   2018
9007   Hawthorn v Gold Coast   York Park   2018
11176   North Melbourne v West Coast   Bellerive Oval   2018
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 08:50 AM
GWS 2018 sad reading

7131   Greater Western Sydney v Gold Coast   Sydney Showground
7194   North Melbourne v Greater Western Sydney   Bellerive Oval   
9253   Greater Western Sydney v West Coast   Sydney Showground   
10046   Greater Western Sydney v Brisbane Lions   Sydney Showground   
10454   Greater Western Sydney v Western Bulldogs   Manuka Oval
10789   Greater Western Sydney v Essendon   Sydney Showground
10866   Greater Western Sydney v Hawthorn   Sydney Showground   
11356   Greater Western Sydney v Fremantle   Manuka Oval   2018
Sat 30-Jun-2018 7:25 PM Att: 10,866 Venue: Sydney Showground VS Sydney Swans
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-24, 02:20 PM
Wow, have a look at some of the attendances at NRL games this year, and I cannot see a fledgling club in that list, like GWS

5135   Gold Coast Titans v Manly

5715   Manly v Newcastle

6134   Manly v Penrith

6158   Parramatta v Gold Coast Titans

6172   Manly v North Queensland

6382   Manly v Gold Coast Titans

6434   Canterbury v Brisbane

6874   Canterbury v Gold Coast Titans

6933   St George Illawarra v Parramatta

7195   Souths v North Queensland

7297   Gold Coast Titans v St George Illawarra

7662   Canberra v Penrith

7719   Parramatta v Newcastle

7846   Manly v Canterbury

8047   Parramatta v Souths

8163   Wests Tigers v Manly

8393   Parramatta v North Queensland

8437   Parramatta v Canterbury

8962   St George Illawarra v Canberra

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-24, 02:58 PM
So what do you make of the poor crowds for both AFL and NRL in Sydney?
Why is it so?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-24, 07:23 PM
Too many people prefer the Gay Mardi Gras or prefer boating on The Harbour :shy:  Then again they might just like to get out of Sydney.

With wall-to -wall promotion throughout Australia  they are hoping to get  40,000 to The Everest meeting at Randwick on 13 October, If they only got 40,000 at any day of Cup Week at Flemington there would be a Royal Commission.

To quote Peter V'Landys "“Thirty-five percent of the audience at the Melbourne Cup come from New South Wales. They should be staying here in Sydney, not going to that dreary, smelly Yarra River."

Dreary and smelly Yarra River ? Mr V'Landys you will have to do better than that. Melbourne must have something going for it. 2.4 million attended home and away games at the MCG  during the 2018 AFL season,The Australian Tennis Open , Cup Week at Flemington and the Australian Grand Prix, all are within walking distance of the Yarra River, each attract hundreds of thousands each year,
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-24, 10:56 PM
Again anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to be on track if they had 40k at Randwick  :no:

Unless you were swinging from the trees down Alison Rd  :chin:  :shutup:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 07:24 AM
I was hoodwinked into going doing to Melbourne for the cup a few years back.
Arrived for Derby day, due to the size of the crowd I missed getting a bet on the first 3 races, couldn’t get beer or anything to eat due to the queues.
Couldn’t even see a race live.
Needless to say Cup day was spent at some dingy pub and was far more enjoyable  8-)
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:27 AM
WOD, sorry that your experience of Derby Day, was unpleasant, at least you have filled in one of your bucket list of things to do......,experience Cup Week
Why don't you get down for the Australian Open Tennis, when you will not have to spend an afternoon in a dingy pub  ?
BTW what sporting event in Sydney should I put on my bucket list ?


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:33 AM
Again anyone with half a brain wouldn't want to be on track if they had 40k at Randwick  :no:

Unless you were swinging from the trees down Alison Rd  :chin:  :shutup:

I do not know how Randwick racetrack is configured today to how it was the past, but on Easter Saturday in 1922 they got 92,300 and 82,500 again in 1944.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 08:36 AM

BTW what sporting event in Sydney should I put on my bucket list ?

Certainly not a GWS game
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 08:45 AM
Certainly not a GWS game
Surely you are not suggesting I watch something like the start of the Sydney-Hobart Boat Race or Manly play Penrith, where they got 6134 to a game this year ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 10:21 AM
Surely you are not suggesting I watch something like the start of the Sydney-Hobart Boat Race or Manly play Penrith, where they got 6134 to a game this year ?

Well yes, NRL is a better game. Thats why more people watch it.

Now, im not sure why Sydney is against going to sporting events.  There's probably a million reasons each adding to the big picture.
Its probably culturally driven
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-25, 11:01 AM
I do not know how Randwick racetrack is configured today to how it was the past, but on Easter Saturday in 1922 they got 92,300 and 82,500 again in 1944.

My word, you're much older than I thought you were  :whistle:

Would have been hard for you to get a drink in those days  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 11:37 AM
Yes I expect a letter in the mail from Her Majesty QE2 if I can hang on a little longer.  :biggrin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 11:39 AM
Well yes, NRL is a better game. Thats why more people watch it.

Now, im not sure why Sydney is against going to sporting events.  There's probably a million reasons each adding to the big picture.
Its probably culturally driven

Does the Gay Mardi Gras get the largest attendance of any event in Sin City ?

Over the two weeks of the festival  I believe 1.2 million went last year, that equals the number of attendees at Etihad Stadium for the entire AFL season.

Are those attendees at the GMG likely to watch NRL games ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 01:24 PM
Bubba, you sound a touch homophobic  :chin:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 02:42 PM
WOD, you implied the reason in Sydney do not attend sporting events could be down to culturally driven. I asked whether those who attend the Gay Mardi Gras would attend the NRL,

NRL and GMG would appear to be cultures apart.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 04:33 PM
AFL has all of its support in the Mardi Gras heartland of the inner west
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-25, 05:20 PM
That is interesting as  I am not sure what team that collective of people support in Melbourne, however I am sure each team in the AFL has its fair share of feral supporters, they mostly sit behind the goals waving flags and floggers. No doubt most NRL teams also have their share as I am sure all codes of football attract more ferals than say, polo or golf crowds.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-25, 05:23 PM
I actually go to the polo, golf and NRL :thumbsup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-26, 12:27 PM
Strange that there is no mention of 'that shoulder charge'

My prediction yesterday was that even though it could not be construed as anything other than a s-c (except by a barrister) . . Slater would play

Slater's action was not malicious, and it was a great try saver . .  but it WAS a shoulder charge . . and they are ILLEGAL . . in most cases  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: nemisis on 2018-Sep-26, 12:51 PM
That's why I prefer rugby union.........the rules are enforced all of the time.

In union that would be a penalty try and Slater would be yellow carded.

Why wasn't it a penalty try at least?......Slater was the last line of defence.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-26, 05:22 PM
Saint Billy lives again, what a joke. How the panel swallowed that pile of dog $hit of a defence from Slater is unbelievable. Actually, no it's not. They were looking for the slightest sliver of evidence to justify letting him off and they got it with the pec muscle making contact first defence. Seriously??? And how the hell can they accept he was trying to wrap his arms around him is simply unfathomable. And what the hell does it matter if he studies how players score tries? He had no other option? Bull$hit. He tucked his arm a good 2 metres before he hit Feki. That panel should hang their heads in shame.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-26, 06:50 PM
Channel 9 would have insisted their $1 billion investment be protected, especially the advertising dollars out of Victoria.

Game is as corrupt as it has been for the past 20 years or so when we had "the war".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-26, 08:16 PM
They had to let slater off to even it up for Jake Friend not being done for his tackle  on Inglis
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: timw on 2018-Sep-26, 09:01 PM
If billy slater bumped like that in the AFL no one would think anything of it.  There are very few bumps like that in the afl these days because of the risk the player with the ball will ride the bump losing the player applying the bump so most tacklers wrap arms to take the player to the ground which can be dangerous especially if the ground is rock hard.  Are NRL players getting soft ? 

cheers
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-26, 09:13 PM
In any AFL game unless that type of shoulder charge made contact with a player’s head, nothing would be made of it, however if a player in AFL was tackled around the neck or gang tackled below the knees , which is acceptable in NRL, it would be free kick and could result in being charged. It is of interest what is considered reportable in NRL is just a bump in AFL, yet what is considered rough play in AFL is acceptable in NRL,
Strange world , different rules for two different contact sports.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-26, 09:53 PM
If they pinged Slater for that we may as well give up the idea of contact sports altogether and all go and play Soccer where we could give a theatre performance every time we broke a finger nail.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-27, 07:55 AM
Nothing to do with the degrees toughness of the players or of the codes . .

All about a rule being a rule . . or not being a rule

But as Kicker pointed out it was apparently a 'Pectoral Muscle Charge' which is perfectly kosher

And if all the whinging armchair experts out there put a purple patch over one eye and watched it frame by frame . .

Anyway, I am led to believe that the match officials for the G.F have been ordered to watch the clip 3 times a day between now and Sunday . . so that they will be au fait with recognising the "Pectoral Charge" should a 'couple' occur during the course of the match  :shutup:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Sep-27, 08:02 AM
Channel 9 would have insisted their $1 billion investment be protected, especially the advertising dollars out of Victoria.

Game is as corrupt as it has been for the past 20 years or so when we had "the war".

GO Storm  :no1:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Sep-27, 08:24 AM
They had to let slater off to even it up for Jake Friend not being done for his tackle  on Inglis

Inglis was up to his usual trick there, does it all the time. If someone grabs his leg when he's held up in a tackle he purposely tips himself over. You only have to look at how often he gets himself in that position to know he has more to do with it than the tackler.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-27, 05:33 PM
If they pinged Slater for that we may as well give up the idea of contact sports altogether and all go and play Soccer where we could give a theatre performance every time we broke a finger nail.

Tell that to the family of the Qld player no longer with us  :shutup:

Simple fact is that's the rules. Nothing to do with being soft. You need to abide by the rules. The NRL has now made a rod for it's own back by allowing Slater off.

What happens this week Nappa cleans up someone with a shoulder? Fun times ahead  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-27, 08:15 PM
That comment is highly offensive. To suggest all shoulder charges display the same degree of intent, malice or consequences shows  a minimal level of understanding of the sport. I played Rugby League from the age of six and know very well that there is a huge difference between an SBW shoulder charge and what we saw from Slater. Fullbacks in the last line of defence have been doing same for one hundred years. And guess what . Outside backs and wingers have been expecting it ! There is a huge difference in what Slater did and lining a bloke up for a cheap shot as happened in your example in Queensland  ; or even as you say with the Rooster's forward.
I also don't back away from the fact that when you make a decision to play a contact sport ( or even say a track work rider or jockey ) you know there exist inherent risks to your own safety. They are the risks you decide are worth taking.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Sep-27, 09:28 PM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.   :lol:

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: ratsack on 2018-Sep-27, 10:10 PM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.    :lol:  

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.

billy didn't train much today as the last few days have been very stressful  lol   
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 07:55 AM
Name all the players you've seen take a look at a players head on the ground and stomp on it.

1) Teflon Billy
2) ?????????

But its not his go.   :lol:

Poor Billy has had a stressful week. Given his history I wonder how many players he will take out in his last game.

I fully expect feet, knees and everything else he can find will be aimed at the heads of the roosters in the GF if they're anywhere near the line and Billy is in range of them.


#2 Gary Jack
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 09:50 AM
That comment is highly offensive. To suggest all shoulder charges display the same degree of intent, malice or consequences shows  a minimal level of understanding of the sport. I played Rugby League from the age of six and know very well that there is a huge difference between an SBW shoulder charge and what we saw from Slater. Fullbacks in the last line of defence have been doing same for one hundred years. And guess what . Outside backs and wingers have been expecting it ! There is a huge difference in what Slater did and lining a bloke up for a cheap shot as happened in your example in Queensland  ; or even as you say with the Rooster's forward.
I also don't back away from the fact that when you make a decision to play a contact sport ( or even say a track work rider or jockey ) you know there exist inherent risks to your own safety. They are the risks you decide are worth taking.

and all that is totally irrelevant to the discussion which shows you missed the point. What we think or did years ago doesn't matter.

The shoulder charge is banned - simple.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-28, 10:29 AM
Just to lighten things up a little . .

NRL and GMG would appear to be cultures apart.

Been a couple of 'gay' NRL players . .



In fact up this way, there was a partnership of League players; one of whom had real talent and was invited to trial with a Sydney team

On the evening after the trial the northern boy telephoned to find out how things went

"Not sure," was the reply. "They pulled me off at half-time."

"Well they are certainly progressive down there . . we're still getting oranges up here!"
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 08:25 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 08:33 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.

Gun, I’m not sure that Gin is disagreeing with you on that.
I suspect he’s say8ng the NRL put the rule in and under the rule, he’s guilty
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 08:43 PM
Yes ,but it is a stupid rule and the judiciary recognized it is such. All Courts ,Courts of Appeal ,Tribunals etc etc in this Country have the right to interpret the rules as implemented by lawmakers as they see fit. Thankfully they did. It is Rugby League for Heavens sake not some sisssy  round ball game !
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-28, 08:52 PM
Totally agree mate but I suspect because it was billy was the reason.
Rest assured, if that was Sammy Burgess, Napa, a Simms or many others, they would not have gone that way
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Sep-28, 10:14 PM
I don't doubt for a moment that Billy probably got a softer run than someone like Napa might have Probably entitled to !  Bit like comparing Robert Thompson to Miracle Mal in his heyday.  However I still think the rule is a dumb one. Compare the  danger Slater put the opposing player in , as opposed to Finch's latest effort. I know which one I would rather have copped.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 11:26 PM

I suspect he’s say8ng the NRL put the rule in and under the rule, he’s guilty

 :bulb: Glad the light bulb is on for some Wily.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-28, 11:28 PM
Obviously Gintara rational discussion is way beyond the scope of your grey matter. If you don't like contact sports can you update us with latest table tennis  or lawn bowls results. Fair dinkum ; what Slater did kids do in the playground every day.

You still just don't get it, what you or I think is irrelevant  :bulb: it's the current rule.

What you played by in the deep dark past doesn't matter, the rules are different now ....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Sep-29, 09:08 AM
The way the rule previously has been applied he should have been outed for the Grand Final.

I don't like how it previously has been applied because I don't regard that sort of tackle as a "shoulder charge".
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Sep-29, 09:29 AM
Agree
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Sep-29, 10:00 AM
Plainly it was a pectoral muscle charge . .

Even the 'Three Blind Mice' could see that
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Sep-29, 04:24 PM
The way the rule previously has been applied he should have been outed for the Grand Final.

I don't like how it previously has been applied because I don't regard that sort of tackle as a "shoulder charge".

  emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Sep-30, 10:39 PM
Cronk, Keary guide Roosters to grand final glory

Cooper Cronk was brought to the Sydney Roosters to win a premiership and, on Sunday night – with one arm dangling uselessly by his side – he did just that.

He came and he delivered, albeit barely able to lift the same trophy he did in opposition colours 12 months ago.

Cronk helped destroy his old club's hopes of becoming the first team in 25 years to win back-to-back titles as the Roosters celebrated a 21-6 victory inspired by the performance of five-eighth Luke Keary.

For the best part of a week the rugby league universe revolved around the shoulders of two of the sport's biggest names.

On Tuesday night one shoulder, that of retiring legend Billy Slater, was controversially cleared to take part in the decider.

The other, that of Cronk's, was shrouded with the type of secrecy that has become synonymous with every significant decision in the halfback's career.

https://www.nrl.com/news/2018/09/30/luke-keary-stars-as-sydney-roosters-dominate-melbourne-storm-in-2018-grand-final/

Stunning first 40 minutes   emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Oct-01, 08:39 AM

#2 Gary Jack

#3 Cameron Munster
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 05:25 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?

If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 05:53 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?

If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.

Wally Lewis was booed as Australian Captain at the SCG back in his day. Disgraceful really.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 05:53 PM
If Winx does not win the Cox Plate I am sure the crowd at Moonee Valley will not boo Hugh Bowman ,even if he has a bad ride.

Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

You will have never have heard Cronk booed in his career despite being tied 100% to and as good a player in his position as Slater and Smith.

Perhaps there's several reasons why.  ;)

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 05:57 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

I think that is way over stated.

What Cameron Munster did to be sin binned in the last few minutes was disgraceful but it would have struggled to scare a fly of your nose in the damage it would have caused.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 06:00 PM
As for the game. Hargraves' first half was a good a prop performance as I've seen in the year. Set the tone.

Also on the roosters Victor Radley is going to be a star. All year he impressed me. Hit's like a truck at times in defense but he got better in attacks the year went on. I do like him.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 06:32 PM
The feud between Cooper Cronk and Cameron  Smith was no more apparent than after the game, when Cronk went out of his way and shook hands with every Melbourne Storm player other than Cameron Smith.

Must be personal. :shy: :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 06:39 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.



Was not the shoulder charge rule introduced because Greg Inglis lined up Dean Young in 2012..nothing to do with Slater.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:40 PM
The feud between Cooper Cronk and Cameron  Smith was no more apparent than after the game, when Cronk went out of his way and shook hands with every Melbourne Storm player other than Cameron Smith.

Must be personal. :shy: :shy:

I thought during the game they might have patched things up, Cronk grabbed Smith by neck in a choking fashion om the ground and Smith came out of it laughing, I thought at the time it was friendly banter.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Oct-01, 06:42 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:43 PM
Was not the shoulder charge rule introduced because Greg Inglis lined up Dean Young in 2012..nothing to do with Slater.

They changed the rules about the way players come in feet/studs first "trying" to kick the ball out of the try scorers grasp.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 06:44 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.

I could not care less about the punters.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Peter Mair on 2018-Oct-01, 06:55 PM


Did some stormer put a deliberate late shoulder charge on a handicapped CK?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:07 PM
I could not care less about the punters.

You may not care about punters , however the NRL and some teams have got into bed with corporate bookies, surely that is a conflict of interest when one team sets out to deceive the punting public.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:11 PM
Bet you they would if he had stomped on peoples head, kneed people in the head and kicked people in the head time and time again like Teflon Billy.

Great Player yes, but one of the dirtiest players I've seen in the last 25 years.

When they have to change rules on player safety purely because of what one player constantly did to put the opposition in danger it says it all.

You will have never have heard Cronk booed in his career despite being tied 100% to and as good a player in his position as Slater and Smith.

Perhaps there's several reasons why.  ;)

Spot on Ara, nothing to do with Melb or Qld, the fact is he's considered a shit bloke. Doesn't matter how good a player he is and Munster is heading that way too.

More laughable was Smith says Slater deserved more respect   :lol:  Respect is earned, not demanded.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:23 PM
Spot on Ara, nothing to do with Melb or Qld, the fact is he's considered a shit bloke. Doesn't matter how good a player he is and Munster is heading that way too.

More laughable was Smith says Slater deserved more respect       :lol:      Respect is earned, not demanded.

Don't know where your head has been in the sand the past 15 years, you should get down to Melbourne or up to Queensland to see how respected Slater is in the general community. Not many rugby league players, other than Cameron Smith, could walk up Collins St in the CBD and command the respect of the average Melburnian.  If he rolled up at any AFL final at the MCG he would raise the rafters.

Do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 07:24 PM
Greg Inglis has created a monumental drama.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-01, 07:31 PM
Had to celebrate being named Aussie Captain.   :biggrin:

But quite an effort to attempt to drive from Dubbo to the City while speeding and drunk. Got as far a Lithgow without killing anyone at least until nabbed.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:33 PM
Don't know where your head has been in the sand the past 15 years, you should get down to Melbourne or up to Queensland to see how respected Slater is in the general community. Not many rugby league players, other than Cameron Smith, could walk up Collins St in the CBD and command the respect of the average Melburnian.  If he rolled up at any AFL final at the MCG he would raise the rafters.

Last 15 years? Following RL  :whistle:

Maybe you should too Bubba  ;) you might realise how silly you sound.

Try asking the average joe rugby league follower what they think of Slater, to a man you'll get - amazing talent, grubby player.  emthdown
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 07:37 PM
Kangaroos captain Greg Inglis charged with drink driving

NEWLY appointed Kangaroos skipper and South Sydney Rabbitohs superstar Greg Inglis has been caught drink driving.

news.com.au October 1, 20187:29pm



NEWLY appointed Kangaroos skipper and South Sydney Rabbitohs superstar Greg Inglis has allegedly been caught drink driving.

The 31-year-old was driving back from the Koori knockout round in Dubbo on Monday afternoon when he was pulled over by police.

The news came hours after Inglis was named Australia’s captain over Roosters star Boyd Cordner to take on Tonga.

“At 2.15pm today, officers attached to the traffic and highway patrol command were conducting stationary speed enforcement on the Great Western Highway at Lithgow detected a black Mercedes Benz travelling above the speed limit,” a NSW Police spokesperson told news.com.au.

He was arrested and taken to Lithgow Police Station where he underwent a breath analysis which allegedly returned a result of 0.085.

He was issued a field court attendance enotice for midrange drink driving and a traffic infringement norice for exceed speed limit.

His licence was suspended and he is due to appear in Lithgow local court on November 2nd.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:39 PM
The "sporting " crowd at the NRL Grand Final certainly showed their true colours on Sunday night. They booed Billy Slater every time he gathered the ball and did not let up even after the game . They obviously got into him for having a shoulder charge thrown but also because he represented Queensland in the SOO.

One wonders if they booed him when he represented Australia ?

Is that part of Sydney sporting culture to boo a champion of the game ?


What about Melbourne crowds and Shane Dye  :what:

Maybe they aren't so perfect after all  :nowink:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:45 PM
What about Melbourne crowds and Shane Dye  :what:

Maybe they aren't so perfect after all  :nowink:

Veandercross ?, I do not think he copped much, except from those who backed it.
BTW was Dye a champion or just a good rider ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:47 PM
Last 15 years? Following RL  :whistle:

Maybe you should too Bubba  ;) you might realise how silly you sound.

Try asking the average joe rugby league follower what they think of Slater, to a man you'll get - amazing talent, grubby player.  emthdown
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:48 PM
I went to my first GF in a long time courtesy of a fan whose team did not make it. As a neutral it was different to previous GFs. Best team won last night with only 12 fit players.

The whole Rooster team has so much depth compared to others and their defence will be the benchmark for the future. They are a great team and should be up there in the next few years at least.

NRL did a good job especially with the photo opportunity for fans with the NRL trophy before the game.

The only downside of yesterday was the buildup prior to it re Cronk. It seems the Roosters lied and deliberately misled everyone. It is a great tactic but it means that all teams can do this and as fans, it seems we are fair game. If you are a gambler you are in an even worse position.

Article below makes some salient points.

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/roosters-confess-to-hundreds-of-lies-in-grand-final-shame/news-story/98f029488a287750e2f59fc255acd2b6

The facade of lies should not take anything away from the Roosters win as they proved themselves to be the best this year. Some of their players will become legends in the future if they can remain injury free.

Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-01, 07:49 PM
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.

I am not at all impressed with the booing of Slater but I am curious what you thought of the booing of Adam Goodes ?

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:52 PM
Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:

Wow those last two paragraphs  :shy: :shy:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 07:52 PM
Veandercross ?, I do not think he copped much, except from those who backed it.
BTW was Dye a champion or just a good rider ?

They booed him for yeas and years and it got to the stage in the end that the culture was such in Melbourne that I'm sure most of those booing didn't even know what they were booing him for.

Please do not offer up platitudes about how well behaved Melbourne crowds are and how evil the Sydney ones are when there is a glaring counter example right under your nose.

So what are you going to say next. It was OK to boo Shane Dye year after year because he may have not been a champion (I think he was) but it was not OK to boo Billy Slater because he was a champion??? Is that what you are honestly saying  :what:

Gimme a break mate.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 07:58 PM
I am not at all impressed with the booing of Slater but I am curious what you thought of the booing of Adam Goodes ?
At that time there was a lot of discussion on Goodes on The Soap Box,..I refer you to that thread.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 08:01 PM
Wow those last two paragraphs  :shy: :shy:

Google cranston ato -

According to police documents, genuine wages from legitimate employers were siphoned through Plutus into a series of tier-two companies manned by straw directors.

The syndicate allegedly kept some of the pay-as-you-go withholding tax and superannuation that should have been passed on to the ATO in these tier-two companies.

https://www.afr.com/business/legal/former-ato-deputy-commissioner-michael-cranston-to-face-trial-in-early-2019-20180308-h0x8p3

Never mind Royal Commissions into Banks and Aged Care.

There should be a Royal Commission into the ATO as well as one into politicians themselves and the way they have scammed society.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 08:03 PM
They booed him for yeas and years and it got to the stage in the end that the culture was such in Melbourne that I'm sure most of those booing didn't even know what they were booing him for.



He was not booed for yeas ( sic ) and years, it was a topic of conversation about who should have won that controversial  Caulfield Cup...no more no less
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Jeunes on 2018-Oct-01, 08:20 PM
Jeunes. You are quoting an article from the Telegraph whose sport's editor Phill Rothfield has a pathological hatred of Easts. This goes back many, many years and there isn't a week goes by without him making up some story.

Are you seriously suggesting that Cronk's shoulder injury was "hidden" from the public  :what:

FFS.

i) It was obvious to all and sundry after the qualifying final that he had a serious shoulder injury.
ii) The fact that he did play makes the victory all the more meritorious given that he barely touched the ball all game.
iii) Listening to a serious Cronk after the game the coach left the decision with him and he only decided by Friday that he was going to play, and even then he wasn't sure.

That article is one from the bottom of the Rothfield barrel.

Here is a man who receives payments into his TAB account from Eddie Hayson and fails to give a reasonable explanation of why the money was paid. And because he is a media celebrity there is no way the corrupt ATO will hit him up with tax like they would you and I.

Please do not believe the lies written about Easts by The Daily Telegraph  :no:

Regardless of what was asked of the Roosters, they always made out they did not know if Cronk was playing or not including himself.

That is the lie. I don’t think anyone doubts he had a severe shoulder injury knowing his career achievements and watching play wounded against Souths.

NRL had gone to bed with the bookies including allowing them to sponsor teams etc. That is an issue for another day. However the hypocrisy is that they want media to be positive but yet allow teams to mislead the public.

I was unaware of Rothfields relationship regarding the Roosters so I will take your word for it.

Roosters were the better team and I believe they can create a dynasty and Robinson could be a Bennett and Bellamy legendary coach in the future as he has now won two and a team capable of winning double that win n total.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-01, 08:43 PM
15 years was not how long you have followed NRL, but how long Slater has been an elite player.

 :what: You asked where I'd been for 15 years, as I said following RL.

You should try reading what's written Bubba  ;) No one has questioned his ability  :nowink:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-01, 09:03 PM
Gintara,  you accuse Billy Slater of being a shit bloke , do you have any comment that...
I do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-01, 09:10 PM
At that time there was a lot of discussion on Goodes on The Soap Box,..I refer you to that thread.
I cannot find the thread Bubba.

Can you remind us? Were you in favour of allowing crowds to boo Adam Goodes? I have a feeling that you were  :dry:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 08:00 AM
MELBOURNE Storm icons Billy Slater and Cameron Smith will be immortalised with statues at AAMI Park.

The government and Storm-funded venture was announced yesterday at Gosch’s Paddock in front of hundreds of fans welcoming back the grand final team.

“I’m really proud of the contribution that I’ve made to rugby league in this state and to have a statue of Cameron and myself out the front of AAMI Park is something that I’m really proud of,” the now retired Slater said.

“My kids will be able to grow up in this town and see their dad and what their dad’s done for our game in this state. “Excited to see what it looks like, but it will be good.”

Slater yesterday flatly ruled out any backflip on retirement, content to be stepping down after 319 NRL appearances.

Despite the grand final loss to the Roosters and a firm belief he could play on, Slater, 35, is excited about life after football. “No. No. I’m done. It’s my time,” Slater said. “I have no doubt that I could play another year but I’ve had my fair share of serious injuries and to be able to walk away from the game healthy and fit I see it as a great opportunity. I’ve achieved everything that I’ve set out to do and if I went on it’d be purely just to play, and that’s OK, but for me it’s time.”

Slater’s success includes two premierships (2012, ’17), two Clive Churchill Medals and Golden Boot and Dally M awards. He played 31 Origins for Queensland and 30 Tests for Australia.

Slater signed off with another strong effort in his seventh grand final since 2006, amassing 134m in his swansong. Although booed mercilessly during the grand final, he laughed off the reception.

“You play at away grounds and they’re passionate supporters,” Slater said.

“If Wally Lewis can cop boos (then) I’ll be OK with it.”

He also stopped short of adding to the impasse between Cameron Smith and Storm.

Smith dropped the bombshell last week that he had considered retiring this season.

While Slater expects Smith to play on, he won’t be putting any pressure on him. “Who am I to tell Cameron Smith what to do with his life,” he said.

Not a bad recognition for a shit bloke  :clap2: :clap2:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 08:35 AM
I cannot find the thread Bubba.

Can you remind us? Were you in favour of allowing crowds to boo Adam Goodes? I have a feeling that you were  :dry:

I cannot find it either, I cannot recall what my feelings were, it was 3 years ago. The debate was about whether he was booed for abusing a young girl or because he played for the Sydney Swans.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-02, 09:29 AM
Gintara,  you accuse Billy Slater of being a shit bloke , do you have any comment that...
I do not recall Slater posting explicit photos of himself on facebook, or getting drunk ,or taking illicit drugs,  or abusing dogs in a simulated sexual acts etc etc , unlike some other NRL players, who must be really really shit blokes.

Like I've said numerous times Bubba, if you followed and understood the game, you'd know what I mean.  :bulb:

As for your 2nd part, that's all irrelevant as it has nothing to do with how he played the game ..... which is what I've been saying all along  :whistle:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 10:42 AM
Like I've said numerous times Bubba, if you followed and understood the game, you'd know what I mean.  :bulb:

As for your 2nd part, that's all irrelevant as it has nothing to do with how he played the game ..... which is what I've been saying all along  :whistle:
I judge a person how they are in the "real world", not how they perform on the sporting field.

Many great players, in all sports , once they leave the sporting arena, are complete arse holes, whereas those that have 'white line fever" are placid and model citizens away from their sport.

If, in your eyes, Slater was a shit bloke, I presume you meant on the sporting field, not in the "real world"

What did you think of G Langlands as a player ,an "immortal " yet since his recent death it has been alleged  he was a somewhat lesser person ?

I could name many champion players in AFL , who played by the rules, never were reported , yet in their AFL after life have been charged with criminal offences., and others who continually were reported have proven to be model citizens

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-02, 11:29 AM
Rest assured Bubba there is just as many “shit blokes” playing AFL
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Oct-02, 11:42 AM
Rest assured Bubba there is just as many “shit blokes” playing AFL

They seem so much more intelligent.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: kicker on 2018-Oct-02, 03:49 PM
I cannot find it either, I cannot recall what my feelings were, it was 3 years ago. The debate was about whether he was booed for abusing a young girl or because he played for the Sydney Swans.

Bubba, you and me are normally on the same wavelength but mate you are off the mark here. Slater deserved everything he copped on Sunday night. He might be a wonderful family man and all that off the field and as brilliant a footballer that he is, some of the stuff he has done on the field over the years is despicable. Someone told me the other day, last week was the 9th time he has fronted the judiciary and escaped charges. 9 TIMES! The absolute greats of the game wouldn't know where the judiciary hearings were held.


Most fans quite rightly thought that, once again, he was given preferential treatment last week and they considered this the last straw for a serial offender. Hence all the booing. The same thing happens at the AFL every time someone gets away with a cheap shot.


BTW, this is what you had to say about Goodes after his war dance against Carlton...


« 2015-May-30, 07:29 PM Reply #14 »

If really wanted to celebrate kicking a goal, why did he not do it in front of Swans supporters, instead of rubbing it up the noses of Carlton supporters ?
Is it any wonder he gets booed at each game he plays outside of Sydney.Only during the week he was complaining as to why he keeps getting booed when he plays interstate.

As token Australian of the Year,staging for free kicks, complaining about a 13 yo abusing him at a game, and bleating about indigenous issues have not gone down well in the football community.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-02, 04:54 PM
I judge a person how they are in the "real world", not how they perform on the sporting field.

Many great players, in all sports , once they leave the sporting arena, are complete arse holes, whereas those that have 'white line fever" are placid and model citizens away from their sport.

If, in your eyes, Slater was a shit bloke, I presume you meant on the sporting field, not in the "real world"

What did you think of G Langlands as a player ,an "immortal " yet since his recent death it has been alleged  he was a somewhat lesser person ?




Lol nice duck & weave  emthdown You knew what we were talking about yet know you're waffling about 'real world'.

As for Langlands, I was 5 when he retired  :shy: pretty sure my dad took me to the old Sydney Sports Stadium (where Allianz is about to get knocked down) to see a match between the Roosters & Saints when he played but the memory isn't that good  :shrug:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-02, 06:39 PM
So Inglis refused to step down from the Australian Captaincy himself and needed to get a suspension for it to be taken off him.  :shrug:

Some good advice he received there.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 06:41 PM

Ignore
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-02, 06:43 PM
Bubba, you and me are normally on the same wavelength but mate you are off the mark here. Slater deserved everything he copped on Sunday night. He might be a wonderful family man and all that off the field and as brilliant a footballer that he is, some of the stuff he has done on the field over the years is despicable. Someone told me the other day, last week was the 9th time he has fronted the judiciary and escaped charges. 9 TIMES! The absolute greats of the game wouldn't know where the judiciary hearings were held.


Most fans quite rightly thought that, once again, he was given preferential treatment last week and they considered this the last straw for a serial offender. Hence all the booing. The same thing happens at the AFL every time someone gets away with a cheap shot.


BTW, this is what you had to say about Goodes after his war dance against Carlton...


« 2015-May-30, 07:29 PM Reply #14 »

If really wanted to celebrate kicking a goal, why did he not do it in front of Swans supporters, instead of rubbing it up the noses of Carlton supporters ?
Is it any wonder he gets booed at each game he plays outside of Sydney.Only during the week he was complaining as to why he keeps getting booed when he plays interstate.

As token Australian of the Year,staging for free kicks, complaining about a 13 yo abusing him at a game, and bleating about indigenous issues have not gone down well in the football community.

In that post I attempted to explain why Goodes got booed, Was it that as AOTY he was a token pick, or did his abuse of a 13 year old girl count against him or was it his staging for free kicks or did he rub up the noses of opposition supporters  when celebrating a goal? I did not know nor still do not know why. Maybe it was a combination of all , I don't know and doubt if I ever will.

BTW I tried to goggle the number of times Slater faced the NRL judiciary and could not ascertain the answer. Are you able to verify it was nine times and was cleared every time. If that is the case he was NOT guilty, so why the concern ? A man is innocent unless proven guilty, so how is he  a serial offender,  but more like a serial attendee .
Was he ever rubbed out ?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Oct-02, 08:10 PM
Billy the'kid' must be a nice fella . . He is a North Queenslander . . .

But, alas, I fear that during his brilliant career, he must have suffered too many head-knocks; after reading that in his retirement, he has no intentions of returning to the "Promised Land'  :huh:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-03, 09:04 PM
Billy the'kid' must be a nice fella . . He is a North Queenslander . . .

But, alas, I fear that during his brilliant career, he must have suffered too many head-knocks; after reading that in his retirement, he has no intentions of returning to the "Promised Land'  :huh:

Think I read he's buying or brought a horse property down the Mornington Peninsula? 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Bubbasmith on 2018-Oct-18, 07:15 AM
More accolades and recognition for Billy Slater....

BILLY SLATER will deliver the Caulfield Cup trophy on Saturday in a new tradition for the Melbourne Racing Club’s premier race day.

Each year a high-profile Australian who has achieved greatness in their field will be invited to participate in pre-race proceedings. Slater will hand the Cup to Channel 7’s racing doyen BRUCE MCAVANEY.

“This will be exciting, I love my thoroughbreds and that’s no secret,’’ said Slater, the recently retired Melbourne Storm star.

“The Spring Carnival is something else and it’s a special time of year to be in Melbourne.”

Slater was the special guest at yesterday’s Blue Sapphire Stakes Day’s Might and Power Sporting lunch at Caulfield racecourse.

He has just switched codes, joining footy club St Kilda as a parttime leadership coach.

“I’m really excited about the role,’’ he said. “It’s new for me but it won’t be anything new I’m talking about.

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:25 AM

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”


He can teach them how to pick up a lose ball in the ground instead of the constant fumbles that go on
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-18, 07:32 AM

“I certainly won’t be teaching them how to kick but in saying that if there’s anything I can add from my rugby league days and skills I’ve accumulated, I will.”


He can teach them how to pick up a lose ball in the ground instead of the constant fumbles that go on

What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: PoisonPen7 on 2018-Oct-18, 07:34 AM
What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....

  :lol:

Was waiting for someone to say that.

Up the Roosters   emthup
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:36 AM
What teaching them how to try and kick the ball out of hands of players on the ground? Maybe taking a mark but using you foot raised with your studs to an opponents head? Sliding into players with your knees?

Billy's got all the tricks .....

Oh, he can do that as well   :lol:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-18, 07:36 AM
Looking forward to the test match this week. Will be a cracker
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Oct-26, 12:31 PM
End of the line for a boy from Ipswich

(https://i.postimg.cc/1nJxZ7D6/image-walters.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/1nJxZ7D6)
 
ROBERT CRADDOCK
COMMENT
 
IN THE end it was like one of those kids birthday parties where there’s a prize for everyone – except for the kid who deserved it most.
Actually Kevin Walters is not a kid any more. He’s 51 and that’s the sad part of the story.
For a decade or more we have dodged writing this sentence but today, with no joy whatsoever, we can say it without fear of contradiction – Kevin Walters will never coach the Broncos.

Lord knows he deserved a crack. In an age of diminished club loyalty, Walters’ raw hunger for the Broncos job stood out like Steve Waugh’s love of the baggy green cap.

For some club supporters the sadness of knowing Walters missed out overshadows any sort of anticipation at looking forward to the arrival of Seibold, heralded as league’s new coaching genius on the strength of his one season at Souths.

Walters earned the chance he never got. It’s genuinely sad to see him miss out because nearly every team he has played for or coached has won something and his personality would, at the very least, have galvanised the fan base and the fractured Broncos old boys’ network.

Walters was never going to out-talk the cerebral Seibold in the interview process because he is too humble to be a super salesman. The dressing room, the training paddock and the coach’s box are his natural habitat. The board room is not.

One of the defining sentences of his career was “mate I’m from Ipswich – we don’t have smoke and mirrors up there’’, but he still has a great ability to make players happy and connect with them as people.

Rugby league’s merry-goround will deliver an extraordinary season where Bennett and Seibold know they are swapping positions at the end. It makes for great copy, fascinating duels and intriguing sub-plots – but it also exposes the game for being a shallow circus in which the loyalty of fans is often far greater than the loyalty of many who play or coach it.

B e n n e t t proved that even at 68 he is a force to be reckoned with in the shadowy game of musical mentors.

He was born with a poker face and he kept it to the end.ENDS


Well Bennett is going after next year Siebold is about to replace him and Walters is left out in the cold SHAME.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-26, 01:51 PM
Warriors tell SJ he can look elsewhere and test the market.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Gintara on 2018-Oct-26, 04:13 PM
Thoughts Ara on your new coach?
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arakaan on 2018-Oct-26, 06:13 PM
I actually think we've done alright out of Cleary screwing us over.

One thing luckily is from all reports our cap is under control which it wasn't when previous coaches have left.

Maguire can attempt to bring in players if he wants for 2020 without to much restriction.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Devil on 2018-Oct-27, 05:38 AM
No doubt the Tigers have done the best deal.
This blokes is by far the best coach in the game
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Oct-27, 06:11 AM
No doubt the Tigers have done the best deal.
This blokes is by far the best coach in the game

Welcome back devil :thumbsup:

As a bunnies supporter I couldn’t agree with that but he will be good for Wests for a couple of seasons.

He’s a very one dimensional coach and never seems to have a plan B
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 11:38 AM
The Brisbane Broncos coaching debacle is front page today with Anthony Seibold ...the Broncos coach in waiting unleashing on current Broncos coach Wayne Bennett..."You're hurting my kids Wayne" in big bold type on the front page of today's Sunday Mail...it had been indicated that Bennett would go to Souths and Siebold would take over at the Broncos ..until Bennett called a press conference on Thursday and stated his intention is to fulfill his obligations and coach the Broncos next year ..this is not what the brains trust at the clubs want ...they want Siebold not Bennett and apparently both clubs Souths and Broncos agreed to the coaching exchange ...now there is speculation that Bennett's about face gives the Broncos board the opportunity to sack him ...on the grounds he is allegedly in breach of his contract by contacting Souths players and discussing training programs...on the other hand Broncos coaching staff and the players are happy that Bennett has decided to stick to his contract......as an observer looking in it seems to me that the management have mishandled this issue ...looking silly now doing deals and now they re falling over...maybe they should terminate Bennett and install Siebold..and take their chances on Bennett suing them ...after all he'll be picked up by Souths ..Siebold will take over at the Broncos ...and they'll both be well paid.

Giddy Up :beer:   


SM stories that are capable of being reproduced ..


As Wayne knocks on nobody is a winner

PHIL ROTHFIELD
ANALYSIS

ANTHONY Seibold is today speaking on behalf of the rugby league public.

It’s not just him that’s fed up with stubborn old Wayne Bennett – we all are.

His credibility is in question following revelations he has been trying to run two clubs at once.

One day the Broncos, the next day he’s on the phone to Souths players.

For weeks this nonsense has dragged on and been played out publicly.

When it starts affecting personal lives, enough is enough.

The situation with Seibold at the Rabbitohs is obviously untenable.

He has understandably been shut out of all recruitment and almost all football operations.

The Rabbitohs don’t want him and he can appreciate that.

Wayne Bennett is in the same position at the Broncos. They don’t want him but Souths do. He knows that. The honourable thing to do is to quit and move to the Rabbitohs.

Playing around with footballers’ lives in this manner is poor form.

Souths players are wondering why he would sign for 2020 but not want to coach them now.

This rubbish about him staying in Brisbane to honour his contract is ridiculous. He didn’t honour his contract when he walked out on the Newcastle Knights four years ago, leaving the club on the scrapheap. It’s only when it suits him.

The revelations that he has already started contacting South Sydney players is the proof that his position is as untenable as Seibold’s.

And it almost gives the Broncos the ammunition to sack him.

You can’t coach two clubs at once.


I’M STILL KING OF RED HILL
Benny vows to go out with a bang
PETER BADEL
@badel_cmail
 
WAYNE Bennett has declared he is not a spent force and insists he can bury the most toxic coaching saga in Brisbane’s history to lead the Broncos to an emotion-charged premiership next season.
The Broncos launch their 2019 pre-season tomorrow and Bennett opened up to The Sunday Mail about his determination to leave Red Hill with a premiership fairytale.
The 68-year-old has encountered the most stressful off-season of his 40-year coaching career, staving off months of speculation to declare on Friday that he has no interest in a straight swap with Anthony Seibold.
While the drama is far from over with Seibold yesterday venting his frustration, Bennett is looking ahead to a swan song season at Red Hill that could enshrine his legacy, aiming to deliver a seventh title and snap Brisbane’s 13-year premiership drought.
The super coach hasn’t won a premiership since leading the Dragons to glory in 2010 but rubbished suggestions he has lost his mojo, saying he still has the mental and tactical tools to deliver another title.
“I haven’t lost any belief. I’m not doubting myself,” Bennett said as he closes the door on the Seibold saga by launching his 26th season at the Broncos tomorrow.
“There are a lot of coaches out there who have never won an NRL premiership.
“I have won seven. And we were a few seconds away from winning another premiership in 2015 (losing to the Cowboys in extra-time).
“I know what wins premierships. And that’s my job every year – to convince this group of men this is what we have to do to win. We’ve got through a lot of turbulence lately, but I have to get this group of men back together again to get us back to the grand final, all with the same belief, all with the same confidence, all on the same page.
“We have stability in our staff, which is why it was important to get clarity around my future. A season or two can roll by and it (premiership success) doesn’t happen and I accept the pressure builds, but I haven’t lost confidence. I’ve won too many big games, and won too many premierships, to lose faith now.”
Broncos fans are entitled to query the side’s premiership ambitions in the wake of their shocking 48-18 loss to the Dragons in the opening week of the playoffs last season.
Factor in the political hotbed surrounding Bennett’s contractual spat and the loss of hardmen Sam Thaiday and Josh McGuire, exposing a posse of young forwards, and the Broncos face a battle to make the top eight.
But Bennett backed his squad to be legitimate top-four contenders, rating Brisbane’s class of 2019 superior to last season’s outfit.
“The talent is there to win it,” he said.
“That has been built up over the last four years. When I came back in 2015, we had some cleaning up to do with our roster and Peter Nolan (recruitment chief) has done a great job with our list.
“I believe we are as good a chance as anyone. We have the quality of player, so if we stay injury-free, I honestly believe this is our best chance in my time here. We just need to come together as a team.”
While Bennett has delivered the club six premierships, Brisbane have won just one title in the past 18 years. They last lifted the NRL trophy in 2006, and Bennett concedes he is mindful of expectations.
“We don’t have the longest history really, we’re 30 years old,” he said.
“People talk about our drought ... we still haven’t been beaten in an 80-minute grand final. We were beaten in extra time. It’s easy to forget that.
“At the Dragons, it was 31 years since they had won their last premiership and they were a famous club. Look at Parramatta. They won four in the 80s and haven’t won one since. It can get away from you. I feel we are getting closer here.”
We’ve got through a lot of turbulence lately, but I have to get this group of men back together again to get us back to the grand final
WAY N E B E N N E T T



BRONCOS assistant Jason Demetriou has spoken of his relief at keeping his job and says Brisbane players were “elated” when Wayne Bennett declared he was staying at Red Hill.
The implications for ancillary staff such as Demetriou was one critical impediment to Bennett agreeing to an immediate swap with Souths counterpart Anthony Seibold for the 2019 season.
Bennett was locked in delicate talks with Broncos and Souths bosses and made it clear he would not leave until he had clarity on the futures of support staff such as Demetriou and Brisbane high-performance chief Jeremy Hickmans.
Broncos players launch their preseason tomorrow and were resigned to Bennett joining Souths before he called a team meeting on Friday announcing he was staying loyal.
“There is some relief,” Demetriou said.
“With all the media attention, we were unsure what was going on and there was definitely some anxiety.
“But there was a genuine relief in the room when Wayne announced he was staying. The players were elated and they can now look forward and get on with it.
“From a coaching point of view, everything starts ramping up.
“All the plans we have in place can be activated now, myself and the players can’t wait to get on with it and get excited about 2019.
“There was a great mood around the place when we heard Wayne was staying.
“There was an instant lift, so we’re ready to get stuck in now for a big season.”
While Bennett was away in England recently coaching the British national team in a Test series against New Zealand, Demetriou was in Brisbane overseeing the return of the club’s younger players.
Off-contract at the end of next season, Demetriou is tipped to follow Bennett to Souths in 2020, but insists he is keeping his options open, with his preference to be an NRL head coach.
“My priority was always my family and wanting to honour my deal with the Broncos,” he said.
“I have another year here and I always wanted to stick around because I love it at this club.
“The beauty of Wayne staying is we have time to concentrate on next season. My ambition is to be a head coach but this allows me time to see what’s out there and what opportunity arises.”

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Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Dec-02, 02:28 PM
Wayne has won.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-02, 03:17 PM
Seibold is a turd. He’s behaved disgracefully
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Authorized on 2018-Dec-02, 03:27 PM
Seibold is a turd. He’s behaved disgracefully

Not sure if has been a disgrace but he has certainly been a sook.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-02, 04:00 PM
A sook,  certainly. He negotiated a contract Mid season to be at the broncos in 2020 and now squealing about not going there tomorrow.
Let him rot on gardening duty  :rant:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: arthur on 2018-Dec-02, 05:00 PM
Looks like he will be there tomorrow . .

WB's been sacked  :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 05:34 PM
Brisbane Broncos confirm Wayne Bennett's sacking, Anthony Seibold leaves Souths
Updated about an hour ago


PHOTO: Wayne Bennett will not be coaching the Broncos in the 2019 NRL season. (AAP: Dave Hunt, file photo)

Wayne Bennett's time as Brisbane coach has come to an end, with the Broncos terminating his contract a year early to allow Anthony Seibold to take charge in 2019.

Key points:
The Broncos' decision ends more than a month of uncertainty about who would coach the club in 2019

Anthony Seibold will join the Broncos as Wayne Bennett's replacement on Monday

Wayne Bennett's sacking ends his 25-year association with the Broncos, in which they won six premierships

The Broncos confirmed the decision to sack Bennett this afternoon, only two days after the seven-time premiership coach declared he would see out the final year of his contract next season.

Bennett, who was in charge of the Broncos for 25 seasons across two stints, is set to join South Sydney a year earlier than expected as part of a coach swap between the two clubs.

The Broncos' decision follows Seibold's outburst about having a "gutful" of Bennett's behaviour during the coaching drama, which he said had placed a significant emotional strain on his family.

Seibold will link up with the Broncos on Monday for the opening day of preseason training after being granted an early release from the Rabbitohs, who he was contracted to through to the end of 2019 season.

The Broncos said the terms of Bennett's termination were "confidential".

 Wayne Bennett looks on at a Brisbane Broncos training.
PHOTO: Wayne Bennett was contracted to the Broncos through to the end of the 2019 season. (AAP: Dave Hunt, file photo)

Seibold comes to the Broncos with the reputation as an NRL coach on the rise.

He led the Rabbitohs to the preliminary finals in the 2018 season, an effort that earned him the NRL coach of the year award.

Seibold played in the Broncos' lower grades during the 1990s when Bennett was first grade coach.

He becomes only the fourth coach to take charge of the Broncos.

 Anthony Seibold at South Sydney training at Redfern Oval.

PHOTO: Anthony Seibold was South Sydney coach for only one season. (AAP: Dan Himbrechts)

Bennett leaves his mark on Broncos

Bennett was Brisbane's foundation coach when the club entered the New South Wales Rugby League first grade competition in 1988, prior to winning six premierships with the Broncos.

He won NSWRL premierships with the Broncos in 1992 and 1993, before leading them to the Super League title in 1997.

Bennett then guided the Broncos to NRL premierships in 1998, 2000 and 2006, prior to leaving the club at the end of the 2008 season.

 Darren Lockyer and Wayne Bennett celebrate after the Broncos' grand final win in 2006.

PHOTO: Wayne Bennett (right) and Darren Lockyer celebrate the Broncos' 2006 grand final win. (AAP: Dean Lewins)

His time away from the club between 2009 and 2014 saw him coach St George Illawarra to its 2010 premiership, however he had mixed results with Newcastle during his three seasons with the club (2012-2014).

Bennett returned to the Broncos to replace Anthony Griffin ahead of the 2015 season, in which he guided the club to the grand final.

The Broncos have made a staggering 22 finals series in his 25 seasons as coach.

The Rabbitohs would be the fifth NRL club Bennett has coached, as he has also been in charge of Canberra, St George Illawarra and Newcastle during his decorated career.

Topics: sport, rugby-league, nrl, brisbane-4000, redfern-2016

First posted about 2 hours ago 

ENDS

No Photos we all know what they look like.

Wonder if the players at Red Hill will be happy with this outcome and what about the coaching staff  who were on record today applauding the fact that Bennett would be their coach in 2019........how secure are they ......hopefully all will end well for those involved .......Broncos had to act decisively to end this drama.......cut their lossses......which may or may not ever be divulged.

Giddy Up :beer:

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Dec-02, 08:11 PM
Always going to end this way. Bennett wanted to get the sack so they had to pay him out. Blind Freddie could see that . No surprise there. He is after all an old Queensland copper raised in the days when the Queensland Police Force were the absolute masters of making money. Bennett has an easy win over the amateurs at the Broncos.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Dec-02, 08:26 PM
But will they have to pay him out?

Don't they  claim he breached his contract by contacting Johnstone?

 
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: gunbower on 2018-Dec-02, 08:31 PM
JWH, sorry I can't see why you think he might have breached his contract by this. Let me know your thoughts.
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-02, 09:37 PM
This is a turnup Bennett was with his disadvantaged son and switched his phone off ....... White the Broncos CEO tried to contact him several times ..he wanted a face to face meeting ...but eventually sacked him by text and email ...Siebold was in Sydney at the movies .......links to relevant stories in News Ltd papers are the only info available at this time


https://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/broncos/wayne-bennetts-family-time-with-disadvantaged-son-interrupted-by-sacking/news-story/6826307242903d7b56d63cb92043161a

https://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/teams/broncos/why-brisbane-broncos-sacked-wayne-bennett/news-story/48b9772e8b6206b93948a814e026e5b0

"Souths had also been dealing with Bennett on possible signings and the club has not yet appointed an assistant coach to replace David Furner, believing Bennett would bring his own coaching members. It is understood Broncos assistant coach Jason Demetriou will also join Souths.
“I’m really pleased it’s all resolved and that I can join this great club with a free mind, knowing I did the right thing by the fans, staff and players,” Bennett said in a Rabbitohs statement."


Happy Endings all round. :yay:

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: JWesleyHarding on 2018-Dec-03, 07:03 AM
JWH, sorry I can't see why you think he might have breached his contract by this. Let me know your thoughts.


That's just what I heard.

Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-03, 07:51 PM
Nobody knows forcertain outside of the parties themselves whether Bennett got a termination payout of his 12 month contract .......today there are pages in the CM with various staff writers expressing their opinions on the deal ......too many to try and repost ...... hereunder are links to two different writers take on the affair from the Brisbane Times both stories were written last night....and the front page of today's CM
https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/brisbane-and-souths-get-their-men-but-losers-scattered-everywhere-20181202-p50jr0.html

https://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/sport/nrl/i-did-right-thing-by-fans-bennett-says-his-conscience-is-clear-20181202-p50jrd.html

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Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-04, 10:15 AM
Bennett plays game of ‘run rabbit run’ with Sydney media
MATTHEW BENNS
 
NEW Rabbitohs coach Wayne Bennett jetted into Sydney last night to take over the reins at Redfern Oval.
And in keeping with everything else about his move, things did not go according to plan.
Bennett flew in from Brisbane on a Qantas flight and immediately got into a bizarre game of cat and mouse with waiting media.
After sending an accomplice to scope out where camera crews were staked out he then retired to the Qantas Club lounge to wait things out in relative comfort.
Former prime minister John Howard emerged but Bennett sat tight until arrangements were in place.
After half-an-hour of free Qantas hospitality he sauntered down the escalator and headed back to the exit.
On the way he was accosted by fans who recognised him, shook his hand and posed for selfies with the NRL’s oldest new kid on the block.
Bennett then sent his sidekick for another look around. He returned to report back that the media was keener than ever for a sight of the great man.
In desperation, the camerashy footy boss threw himself on the mercy of QantasLink staff who discussed his dilemma at length.
Eventually an important looking suited airport official and another staff member in a high visibility vest joined him (pictured) and summoned an airport golf buggy for the bashful new South Sydney Rabbitohs coach.
Bennett is 68 so perhaps the walk back along the length of the domestic airport was too much?
He was whipped along the concourse to an anonymous silver door near the Watermark book store and ushered inside.
“Now he is in the walls,” an astonished TV hack cried.
Bennett emerged in a nondescript loading dock where he eventually was picked up by a driver – an hour-and-a-half after he landed.
He is expected to give a press conference in Redfern today where finally fans may hear just what he has planned for his time in Sydney.
Broncos assistant coach Jason Demetriou is understood to be in negotiations with Souths and expected to arrive at Redfern with Bennett this week.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-04, 10:40 AM
Good, bad and the ugly for Bennett

With Wayne Bennett doing his greatest Clint Eastwood impersonation and riding off into the sunset – albeit having been shot in the back once or twice – it’s time to look back on his five best and worst decisions of the past 30 years
THE BEST
LEAVING CANBERRA
RAIDERS (1988)
FOR someone who insisted on honouring his 2019 contract at the Broncos, it is ironic that Bennett had to break a contract to join the start-up club in the first place.
Bennett was tied to the Raiders, who he had cocoached to the 1987 grand final, when Broncos founder Paul Morgan approached him to become the club’s first coach in 1988. “Only Paul Morgan could have convinced me to break a contract,” he said. It was the start of the longest and most successful coaching partnership in the game’s history.
SACKING WALLY LEWIS (1989)
AT THE time it seemed unthinkable and earnt Bennett plenty of flak, but stripping the captaincy from Queensland league royalty King Wally after just two years in the competition proved to be a turning point in the club’s fortunes.
With Lewis leaving at the end of the 1990 season, Bennett had established himself as a major powerbroker and the Broncos won their first premiership two years later.
TAKING BRIAN SMITH
FOR A SPIN (1993)
Going into the 1993 grand final, the Broncos were battered and bruised having come from fifth spot while St George, their opponents for the second straight year, were relatively fresh.
Two days before the game, Bennett was given a copy of Dragons coach Brian Smith’s game notes from the previous year’s decider. Finding them relatively tame, Bennett rewrote them to include harsh and inflammatory descriptions of the Brisbane players, and distributed them to his team. Fired up, the incensed Broncos steamrolled the Dragons to go back-to-back.
PUTTING SHAUN
BERRIGAN TO HOOKER (2006)
DURING his 25 years at the club, Bennett has made dozens of canny positional changes, including Darren Lockyer and Anthony Milford from fullback to five-eighth and Darius Boyd from winger to fullback but none has had the spectacular short-term success of moving centre Shaun Berrigan to hooker late in the 2006 season.
With Michael Ennis injured and fill-in Casey McGuire struggling to adapt, Berrigan revitalised the Broncos attack and was Clive Churchill medallist in the club’s grand final win over Melbourne eight weeks later.
GETTING OUT ON TOP
(2008)
WITH the writing on the wall that his days at the club were numbered, Bennett made a dignified exit from Red Hill.
Issuing a statement that in part said “the Broncos have always believed it is better for a player to leave a year too early than a year too late. I have always believed there should be no exception, even for the coach”, he left with his legacy intact and, won a premiership with the Dragons two years later to enhance his status.
THE WORST
PASSING ON
JOHNATHAN THURSTON (2001)
IN HIS 31 years coaching in the NRL, Wayne Bennett has admitted to just two mistakes.
The biggest was failing to sign a teenage Johnathan Thurston when he had the chance. Admittedly he says it wasn’t entirely his fault, but he does own up to being convinced by others in Broncos management that the future superstar wasn’t the player they needed.
Instead, Thurston was snapped up by the Bulldogs for free before becoming arguably the No.1 player in the game at North Queensland.
LETTING PETERO
CIVONICEVA GO (2007)
CLUB favourite Petero Civoniceva claimed that Bennett had promised him a major pay increase when marquee prop Shane Webcke left the club. When the time came, Broncos chief executive Bruno Cullen said there was nothing left under the salary cap.
Petero walked and the club signed Ashton Sims and Joel Clinton for a combined $210,000 more than they had offered Civoniceva. Regardless of the financial machinations, the perception that Bennett had dudded one of the club’s most popular players cast a stain that remains today.
TAKING THE MONEY
(2007)
COMING on top of the Civoniceva debacle, revelations that Bennett had for years been accepting secret payments from billionaire club supporter Ken Talbot did nothing to enhance his standing among certain explayers and non-supporters.
Talbot said the payments, totalling $1 million over 10 years, were to provide financial security for Bennett’s two disabled children but players, who for years had accepted the coach’s reasoning that they should take less pay for the good of the team, were not impressed.
PUTTING SAM THAIDAY TO HOOKER (2018)
THE second mistake that Bennett has owned up to in his long career was playing Sam Thaiday at hooker against the Dragons in Round 1 this year.
With Thaiday completely out of his comfort zone, the Broncos went down 34-12, prompting Bennett to rush the injured Andrew McCullough back into the side. As major errors go, a bungled first-round selection isn’t earth-shattering but the fact that the normally inscrutable Bennett admitted to screwing up made it headline news around the country.
COMING BACK TO THE BRONCOS (2015)
BUT for a last-second try and an extra-time knock-on, Wayne Bennett’s second coming could have been the greatest comeback since Elvis.
Instead, with the Cowboys snatching the premiership that Broncos fans believed only Bennett could deliver, it has all ended in tears over the past few months.
Wayne Bennett is a nondrinker, non-smoker and nongambler but even he would be aware of the Kenny Rogers song that goes: “You’ve got to know when to hold ‘em, know when to fold ‘em; know when to walk away, know when to run.” His first exit was perfect. Recent events suggest he should have left it that way.

Benny won’t sue Brisbane
PETER BADEL TRAVIS MEYN
WAYNE Bennett has ruled out legal action against the Broncos after learning of his sacking on social media.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Bennett will receive an estimated payout of $300,000 related to his image rights, but he will not be paid a cent of his actual Broncos football deal because of a series of alleged contract breaches.
Broncos lawyers spent hours on Sunday navigating the legal minefield of Bennett’s termination following revelations the coach was contacting players at his future employer, South Sydney.
It is believed the 68-yearold Bennett’s Broncos salary had two components – his football contract and an intellectual-property component related to his worth for the club in Brisbane’s marketing and corporate spheres.
The terms of Bennett’s settlement are confidential but he will leave Red Hill with a major six-figure payout.


I faced it all and I stood tall ... and I’ll do it my way
PAUL MALONE
ANALYSIS
 
OWN MAN: New Broncos coach Anthony Seibold.
 
USUALLY you hear “my way” a lot at funerals, not at the beginning of something.
But Anthony Seibold laid down at his first news conference as Broncos coach that he is going to be his own man.
Three times in the 19 minutes of his first news conference as Broncos coach, Seibold steered us on to the path of his “way’’ when asked about how his methods compared to Wayne Bennett’s or the confusing events surrounding life at Redfern and Red Hill.
Possessing the nuggety build befitting his former roles as a Broncos lower-grade hooker and Raiders first grader, Seibold strikes you as a strong presence in a room.
The 44-year-old’s more emotional outbursts at the media in the past six months and evident frustration with how his future was played out publicly have raised the question of whether he is temperamentally suited to life as Broncos coach.
“Am I suited to the role? Well, we’ll find out,’’ Seibold said.
“The last couple of weeks have been an intense experience. But it’s over. I’ll do things my way and go from there. I have a love for coaching to start with.
“I have given a long-term commitment to the Broncos. It was a very tough decision but I felt I could make an impact with this group. I’ve shown over the last 12 months (with Souths) that I do a sound job.’’ Ex-players including Chris Johns, Glenn Lazarus and Kerrod Walters (pictured) had been vocal in criticism of the road by which the Broncos bosses arrived at Seibold as coach.
“I do know there’s a great legacy left by the Old Boys at the club.
“I’ll tell you what is the most important thing for me is to build strong relationships with the playing group and the staff,’’ Seibold said.
“I can’t control any of the commentary outside this group. What excites me is there is an opportunity (for the 2019 Broncos) to create their own history.
“At some stage of course I want the Old Boys to be proud of the team’s performances, but my priority is the staff and players because they control the result.
“Watching Broncos sides in the past, they never get beaten on effort. I’ll do things my way and try to provide a really good environment.’’
Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-07, 09:23 AM
Axe falls on Demetriou

PETER BADEL
CHIEF RUGBY LEAGUE WRITER
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SACKED: Jason Demetriou.

THE bloodletting at Brisbane has continued, with Wayne Bennett’s assistant Jason Demetriou sacked by the Broncos.

The Courier-Mail can reveal Demetriou had his contract torn up yesterday morning, leaving Bennett’s right-hand man at Brisbane without a job just three weeks before Christmas.

And more heads are set to roll, with high-performance chief Jeremy Hickmans and Bennett’s chief analyst Scott Barker expected to follow Demetriou out of Red Hill in the next 24 hours. Demetriou was summoned to a meeting with Broncos chief executive Paul White yesterday where he was advised he was surplus to requirements.

Demetriou was contracted to the Broncos until the end of next year but has been offered an immediate payout as Bennett’s replacement Anthony Seibold ushers in a new era at Red Hill.

Seibold presided over Broncos training yesterday with a team of fresh faces including Peter Gentle, Ben Cross and high-performance manager Paul Devlin, with whom he worked at South Sydney.

Demetriou was expected to follow Bennett to Redfern, but it is understood that won’t happen, with the Rabbitohs committed to contracts with their existing staff.

The sacking of Demetriou has capped a turbulent period for Bennett’s assistants.

Demetriou, Hickmans, Barker and trainer Tannath Scott were advised to stay away from Broncos HQ for a week while Seibold’s squadron settled in.

They had their emails shut down immediately and their contents packed in boxes ready for collection.

Bennett has been savaged over the past week but he was reluctant to leave Brisbane until he received assurances his staff would be taken care of.

Eventually Bennett was sacked last Sunday, a scenario that was always going to put his assistants in the firing line.

Bennett revealed at his first press conference at Souths on Tuesday that Rabbitohs hierarchy made it clear they could not afford to bring his Broncos assistants to Redfern.

In July, Bennett tabled a proposal for Demetriou to succeed him as Brisbane’s head coach in 2021, but that blueprint was rejected by the Broncos board.

Demetriou was popular with Brisbane players and played a key role in their attacking structures over the past two seasons.

It is unknown whether he will remain in Queensland as he attempts to chase his NRL coaching ambitions.


ENDS

The casualties of the coaching fiasco mount up if Souths as reported are committed to keeping their existing staff which no reasonable observer would argue with where do Peter Gentle, Ben Cross and high-performance manager Paul Devlin,"with whom he worked at South sydney" come from of the pages off the  positions vacant ?

Further and better particulars required.

Giddy Up :beer:


Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: Arsenal on 2018-Dec-21, 06:53 PM
Benny won’t sue Brisbane
PETER BADEL TRAVIS MEYN
WAYNE Bennett has ruled out legal action against the Broncos after learning of his sacking on social media.
The Courier-Mail can reveal Bennett will receive an estimated payout of $300,000 related to his image rights, but he will not be paid a cent of his actual Broncos football deal because of a series of alleged contract breaches.
Broncos lawyers spent hours on Sunday navigating the legal minefield of Bennett’s termination following revelations the coach was contacting players at his future employer, South Sydney.
It is believed the 68-yearold Bennett’s Broncos salary had two components – his football contract and an intellectual-property component related to his worth for the club in Brisbane’s marketing and corporate spheres.
The terms of Bennett’s settlement are confidential but he will leave Red Hill with a major six-figure payout."
ENDS

That was THEN 4 December NOW he's threatening to sue for $400K according to the CM today ......sent a legal letter of demand to Red Hill ....on the face of it he doesn't have a full hand ..left the Broncos with $385K and walked into South Sydney for a reported $800K.

Giddy Up :beer:
Title: Rugby League 2018
Post by: wily ole dog on 2018-Dec-21, 07:16 PM
Good on him. Broncos have treated him like crap.

I hope he squeezes all his entitlements out of them  :clap2: