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Offline PoisonPen7

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O.P. « 2017-Dec-05, 12:44 AM »

A thread for discussion on the 2019 season.

Early Injury List - some big names on it:

FULL CASUALTY WARD

BRONCOS

Anthony Milford (hamstring/shoulder) - Round 1

RAIDERS

Jordan Rapana (shoulder) - Round 11-14

Ata Hingano (shoulder) - mid-season

Joey Leilua (hamstring) -Round 1

Michael Oldfield (knee) - Round 1

John Bateman (side strain) - Round 1

BULLDOGS

Fa’amanu Brown (leg) - Round 4

SHARKS

Josh Dugan (shoulder) - Round 1

Wade Graham (knee) - Round 9-12

Ava Seumenafagai (unknown) - TBC

TITANS

Ryan James (knee) - Round 1-3

AJ Brimcons (shoulder) - trials

SEA EAGLES

Lachlan Croker (knee) - TBC

Tom Trbojevic (hamstring) - TBC

Kelepi Tanginoa (knee) - TBC

Taniela Paseka (knee) - TBC

STORM

Jahrome Hughes (calf/cramp) - trials

Will Chambers (ankle) - trials

WARRIORS

Issac Luke (shoulder) - Round 4

Blake Green (hamstring) - Round 1

KNIGHTS

Tautau Moga (knee) - Round 2

Jacob Saifiti (leg) - Round 1

Slade Griffin (knee) - TBC

COWBOYS

Michael Morgan (biceps) - trials

Jordan Kahu (ribs) - trials

Kurt Wiltshire (ankle) - TBC

EELS

Kaysa Pritchard (shoulder) - Round 1

PANTHERS

Nathan Cleary (ankle) - trials

Sam McKendry (knee) - TBC

Viliame Kikau (knee) - TBC

RABBITOHS

Greg Inglis (knee) - trials-Round 1

Adam Doueihi (knee) - Round 4-5

Billy Brittain (concussion/face) - TBC

DRAGONS

Jack de Belin (illness) - trials

Jacob Host (shoulder) - Round 1

ROOSTERS

Ryan Hall (knee) - TBC

Angus Crichton (shoulder) - trials

Craig Garvey (hamstring) - trials

TIGERS

Nil
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« 2017-Dec-05, 12:56 AM Reply #1 »
Summary of all the moves and changes from the NRL

http://www.nrl.com/2018-nrl-player-movements/tabid/10874/newsid/112090/default.aspx

Apart from those in the OP, some of the more significant ones a

Adam Blair, Broncos to Warriors
Aaron Woods, Tigers to Bulldogs
James Graham, Bulldogs to Saints
Sam Kasiano, Bulldogs to Storm
Josh Dugan, Saints to Sharks
Chris Heighington, Sharks to Knights
Gerard Beale, Sharks to Warriors
Mitch Rein, Panthers to titans
Chris McQueen, Titans to Tigers
Jarryd Hayne, Titans to Eels
Ryan Hoffman, Warriors to Storm
Connor Watson, Roosters to Knights
Aidan Guerra, Roosters to Knights
Dane Gagai, Knights to Rabbits
Kane Evans, Roosters to Eels
Aaron Gray, Rabbitohs to Sharks
Russell Packer, Saints to Tigers
James Tedesco, Tigers to Roosters


Retirements/Other

Steve Matai (retired),
Brett Stewart (retired)
Matt Ballin (retired)
Anthony Tupou (retired)
Isaac De Gois (retired)
Jeff Robson (retired)
Semi Radradra (rugby union)

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« 2017-Dec-05, 01:01 AM Reply #2 »
Early market from UBET

Team Premiers Top 4 Final 8 Minor Premiers
Sydney Roosters $5.50 $1.80 $1.20 $4.75
North QLD Cowboys $6.00 $2.00 $1.25 $5.50
Melbourne Storm $6.50 $1.90 $1.22 $5.50
Brisbane Broncos $10.00 $2.50 $1.40 $10.00
Penrith Panthers $11.00 $2.50 $1.50 $10.00
Cronulla Sharks $13.00 $3.25 $1.60 $13.00
Parramatta Eels $13.00 $2.85 $1.50 $13.00
Manly Sea Eagles $15.00 $3.00 $1.70 $15.00
South Sydney Rabbitohs $15.00 $3.50 $1.70 $15.00
Canberra Raiders $17.00 $3.75 $1.75 $15.00
St George Illa $21.00 $5.00 $2.00 $21.00
Newcastle Knights $26.00 $6.00 $2.75 $34.00
Bulldogs $34.00 $7.00 $3.00 $41.00
New Zealand Warriors $41.00 $9.00 $3.50 $51.00
Gold Coast Titans $51.00 $11.00 $4.25 $67.00
Wests Tigers $51.00 $11.00 $4.50 $67.00

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« 2017-Dec-05, 06:21 AM Reply #3 »
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:

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« 2017-Dec-05, 07:44 AM Reply #4 »
One more addition to the transfer list. Madge Maguire goneski from the Bunnies :sweat:

Along with Des Hasler.

Any other coaching changes? I can't keep up   :lol:

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« 2017-Dec-05, 09:02 AM Reply #5 »
The titans had one as well

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« 2018-Mar-04, 12:16 AM Reply #6 »
So if Mitchell Pearce gets caught on camera drunk acting like an idiot he gets 9 weeks.

But if you are a Broncos player - no worries. You can keep playing. No penalty.

Matthew Lodge attack victims speak out as CCTV footage emerges of NRL player's drunken assault

The victims of a violent home invasion in New York by rugby league player Matthew Lodge say they feel betrayed by the National Rugby League for allowing him to play while their court ordered compensation remains unpaid.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-02/matthew-lodge-attack-victims-speak-out/9504796

Reminds me to put my annual bet on the "media darling" teams in the NRL - way ahead over the years using this strategy.

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« 2018-Mar-04, 07:20 AM Reply #7 »
Disgraceful

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« 2018-Mar-06, 09:47 PM Reply #8 »
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.

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« 2018-Mar-09, 07:32 AM Reply #9 »
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.

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« 2018-Mar-09, 08:41 AM Reply #10 »
For all the Sydney sports fans, there are reports that the NSW gov't are having second thoughts on spending money on a ANZ and Alliance stadium rebuilds.

The issue is now there is a blowout to 2.7 billion and chances are it will keep rising. Considering both grounds are rarely full for the best games and only a 1/4 full on most days, is it money well spent?

The other issue that keeps coming is none of the sport codes are providing anything towards this. So in a state where the health system along with many others including child protection are struggling, the government spending this amount of money is getting harder to justify.

The NSW government has also been selling majority of their assets including power grids, titles office etc. There is a very good chance that the stadiums would not necessarily attract more fans due to the sprawling nature of the suburbs in Sydney. Reality is with the Tv coverage getting better and better along with the costs of going, regular games will not bring an extra few thousand fans to the door.

Randwick is a prime example of a huge rebuild but are lucky to get a 5 figure crowd on regular days.  However there is more invested in Sydney races and taxes from it to technically cover the cost. If the NSW government added a $1 levy on all the football codes games in Sydney to raise money, it would be a start and may slowly get people behind this proposal. As many people outside the sports sphere say,  sporting codes are holding the city to ransom by threatening to take away games etc but won't contribute anything and the money well spent elsewhere.

I have been to both stadiums many times when full and empty. Alliance is lucky to 1 million fans through a year unless their teams are at the top. Compare that to some of Sydney's other entertainment sources and it would be in the middle of the pack.

There are fun and games expected with the lobbying  in regards to the rebuilding with the election around the corner in a years time with both parties neck and neck in the polling.

I actually do not think they should be spending billions. If it actually costs that much then it is too expensive (somehow I doubt it costs that much to renovate and there is a degree of "gold digging" incorporated in the price).

As you say Jeunes, most games the stadiums are only 10-20% full.

As someone commented, it would be cheaper to knock down the old stadiums and build new ones at that price.

Would love to see an itemization of the multi-billion dollar estimates, and in particular how much was proposed being spent on corporate boxes.

Corporate Boxes - where the social elite get free food and wine and watch the games in luxurious comfort, usually at the expense of the hapless shareholders of a company or worse still, a government department.

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« 2018-Mar-09, 01:31 PM Reply #11 »
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :
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« 2018-Mar-09, 02:51 PM Reply #12 »
I believe the knights will rise from the ashes and make a play for the 8.

May my suffering cease after all the wooden spoons.
As a Titans follower I fear we might have a hold of the spoon by the season end

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« 2018-Mar-09, 05:16 PM Reply #13 »
I like their pack, Devil.
If the halved perform they'll go better than you think

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« 2018-Mar-09, 07:06 PM Reply #14 »
Great win. But a long way to be really competitive in the top echelons of the competition.

Great crowd and again the passion is there.

If we stop the competition now, we will be in the top 8.

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« 2018-Mar-09, 10:01 PM Reply #15 »
Of course the NSW government should not spend anything like $1 billion, let alone $2.7 billion, on any sporting facilities in Sydney. Sport in Sydney does not attract attendances , whereas in Melbourne $2.7 billion could be well spent, at an appropriate time down the track, to upgrade sporting venues, where people do go to sporting events.
Grand Prix, Australian Open Tennis, Melbourne Cup, AFL Home & Away Games ( 100.000 Anzac Day at MCG )  the AFL Final Series, Presidents Golf Cup, Melbourne Storm home games etc etc :thankyou:

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« 2018-Mar-09, 10:57 PM Reply #16 »
Melbourne Storm home games

Say what  :/

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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:32 AM Reply #17 »
:sleep: :sleep: :sleep:

Couldn't find an emoji for broken record  :whistle:

Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.

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« 2018-Mar-10, 10:34 AM Reply #18 »
I do

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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:00 PM Reply #19 »
The only way Sydney will fill the stadiums more than usual is double headers.

At least with Afl, every Melb team plays in the two stadiums. Sydney does not have the geography to accommodate this and the fans do not travel at times from Manly, Cronulla and Roosters etc.

Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.




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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:01 PM Reply #20 »
Doubt NSW taxpayers would agree with blowing $2.7 Billion on Sydney sporting facilities.

You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.

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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:08 PM Reply #21 »


Personal opinion is to develop the suburban grounds and ANZ. To those old enough, does anyone remember Concord Oval? Once a pioneer but overshadowed quickly by SFS. SFS may fade away like that.

How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.


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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:25 PM Reply #22 »
You'd only find those hand wringing inner city types that have never been to a sporting facility complaining.

Both Parramatta and Alliance were well outdated, Alliance had a raft of issues and struggled to be compliant just to hold events.

ANZ has always struggled as it was ordinary for square codes and wasn't really suitable for oval sports either, at least now those eastern suburbs types will have to find something else to whinge about while sitting at the SCG to watch the Swans.

Mate there are two issues.
i) Do the grounds need some renovations - agree they probably do
ii) The cost.

$2.7 billion is outrageous. Who makes these things up? How could it possibly cost $2.7 billion to renovate something that is worth significantly less than that in sum value.

Are they incorporating the cost of paying off the CFMEU to allow workers on site?  Are they putting gold inlay into the seats?

Tradesmen are in such short supply in Sydney a lot of people are just putting up with things rather than pay exorbitant costs. Maybe we have to do the same with the Stadiums?

There has to be a point at which politicians say "we cannot afford that".

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« 2018-Mar-10, 09:55 PM Reply #23 »
How do you get there Jeunes? Concord has zero public transport and even less parking. It's antiquated.

I was in Perth last week for Ed Sheeran at the new Optus Stadium, it's been built with zero parking facilities  :/

Like all these events you get travel on public transport free with the ticket, we literally walked out of our hotel, crossed the road and within 2 minutes were on a bus direct to the venue and were dropped off at a big bus interchange they have built at one end, the train station is at the other end.

Leaving you just walked back to the interchange and ducked into the bay for your bus number, you were funneled through a chicane that fed you straight onto the bus doors as they pulled up.

Pretty impressive if you ask me.



I was trying to imply Concord Oval was a crap location but at that time, it was amongst the best options. Same for Allianz as it was next to the SCG.

I have been to a fair few sporting venues around Australia and the biggest issue from suburban grounds to the major stadiums is transport.

I must be getting older but the thrill of queuing and fighting crowds to sit in a hard plastic chair with overpriced food has evaporated with the advent of pay tv etc. However I do try to see at least 1 live Afl and Nrl every year.



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« 2018-Mar-11, 07:35 AM Reply #24 »
PP I agree on the costs   emthup

This is being built out my way http://www.bluemountainsgazette.com.au/story/5271297/photos-nepean-river-bridge-on-target-for-october/?cs=1810

Anyone who does the river walk knows a better crossing on the Nth was needed but how can it cost that? Why does it talk so long?


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