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Online wily ole dog

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« 2019-Jun-20, 07:29 AM Reply #375 »
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I donít agree with the term out played. Our halves werenít the problem, it was the forwards and the balance off the bench that cost.
QLD forwards smashed us in the first 20 of that 2nd half. Remember, we couldnít get out of our quarter as their defensive line speed was first class.
No half in the history of the game could have turned that assault around. It was the forwards job and we had no one putting their hand up.
He had to bring Wighton on to do it :shutup:
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« 2019-Jun-24, 08:01 AM Reply #376 »
With no lazy Latrell to squander opportunities or offer Qld easy line breaks, the blues were imperious. As long as they don't pick him for game 3, it should be more pain for Qld in Sydney

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« 2019-Jun-24, 08:41 AM Reply #377 »
Surely they canít pick him

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« 2019-Jun-24, 04:27 PM Reply #378 »
Surely the only changes will come about from injuries?

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« 2019-Jun-24, 04:47 PM Reply #379 »
Cleary in a moon boot with seismosis(?)

Surely they pick Walker. An absolute disgrace if they donít

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Online wily ole dog

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« 2019-Jun-24, 05:23 PM Reply #381 »
Thatís it  :lol:

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« 2019-Jun-30, 06:26 PM Reply #382 »
Ponga is out and the blues will start very short even with Cleary in or out.

Could NSW think of back to back series wins? We all hope so.

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« 2019-Jun-30, 08:22 PM Reply #383 »
"We all hope so . . "

Excuse me . .  :huh:

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« 2019-Jun-30, 09:04 PM Reply #384 »
"We all hope so . . "

Excuse me . .  :huh:

Sorry, I was talking about my fellow New South Welshmen or people to be politically correct.

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« 2019-Jul-10, 03:34 PM Reply #385 »
In the old days the opening 15-20 mins will have a biff but not these days. The penalty count will be low too unless something extraordinary happens.

I cannot remember a side being so short for a decider like NSW is today.

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« 2019-Jul-10, 05:10 PM Reply #386 »
I prefer NSW to win but not avidly so.

My main interest (as per usual) is for the Souths players to finish unscathed.

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If I was betting on this game the odds on Qld would be enticing.

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« 2019-Jul-25, 12:22 PM Reply #387 »
League legend Rod Reddy bites back in ugly war of words with Tigers hooker Robbie Farah

Re this headline- What makes Reddy a "League legend"?

That he brought the game into disrepute by his persistent biting?

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« 2019-Aug-02, 06:11 PM Reply #388 »
With a few rounds left, there are some coaches lucky that they signed mid year extensions or contracted for a couple more years. The only reasons they wonít be sacked at the end of the year if they donít make the finals  is due to the payouts.

Brown, Macgregor, Pay, Green and Kearney  may have to look at their resumes next year if their teams donít improve.




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« 2019-Aug-02, 07:12 PM Reply #389 »
Green is the one who should be under the most scrutiny

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« 2019-Aug-04, 10:48 AM Reply #390 »
Macguire was the last premiership coach to be fired. Green will have 12 months if he is lucky.

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« 2019-Aug-04, 11:17 AM Reply #391 »
Macguire was the last premiership coach to be fired.

I seem to recall Benny wining a premiership or seven.

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« 2019-Aug-04, 11:37 AM Reply #392 »
His last one with Brisbane was in 2006 so not the same as MacGuire.

Technically the  difference was in years.

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« 2019-Aug-04, 12:00 PM Reply #393 »
But he was the last one to be sacked.

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« 2019-Aug-04, 01:05 PM Reply #394 »
You are right on that JWH technically.

Bennett won his last premiership with Brisbane in 2006. He then had stints with another two clubs before returning to Brisbane but did not win a premiership on his return and got fired.

Macguire won Souths their first premiership after 40 odd years and got the boot a couple of years later.

Green won the Cowboys their only premiership so is he entitled to go on his terms?

I am not sure and if Bennettís case is an example of loyalty by clubs to their coaches then Green is on borrowed time.




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« 2019-Aug-04, 05:18 PM Reply #395 »
Gold Coast were hopelessly outclassed against the Roosters and Holbrook probably needs a couple of seasons to make them competitive on a regular basis.

Nathan Brown has been coaching the knights since 2016 and is yet to make the semis so will the Titans be that patient?




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« 2019-Aug-05, 03:57 PM Reply #396 »
No they won't.

Surely this is the last through at the dice before they are folded up and moved to Ipswich of something.

Watching the Dragons yesterday there were a number of players who simply didn't go that extra step or yard to make that tackle. They have either given up for the year or aren't buying into the coaches tactics.

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« 2019-Aug-06, 10:18 PM Reply #397 »
I do feel sorry for Gold Coast. They have have two losing teams in the Suns and Titans.

I think the Titans can be saved but really need a very strong coach and special dispensation with salary cap etc.

I believe if you get the wooden spoon or bottom two sides, you should have 200-300k tacked on for the next two years salary cap as there are no draft concessions.

Very good players would not join a bottom side especially those  in their late 20s which a bottom side needs to mentor youngsters and build on for a few years.

Titans have some good players but also vastly overrated players too. Arrow is off contract at the end of next season too.

With Brennan gone, not sure if any of the ex Panthers players will go too.

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« 2019-Aug-07, 12:45 PM Reply #398 »

I believe if you get the wooden spoon or bottom two sides, you should have 200-300k tacked on for the next two years salary cap as there are no draft concessions.


That goes against the very reason for the salary cap.

The cap was put in place to save clubs against themselves. By ensuring they didn't spend more then they could afford and get into financial difficulties.

When clubs finish down the back end of the field their membership contributions decline and their sponsor monies are adversely affected.

So allowing them to spend more when their income is less is exactly the opposite of what the cap was meant to provide against.

 

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« 2019-Aug-07, 06:42 PM Reply #399 »
While I don't object to to the amount footballers earn (hangers on are well paid including media and shareholders of media companies) arguably some salary caps don't work because too many players are paid similar amounts despite differences in ability of the teams.  The issue is how much better is the the top team from the bottom team and how you measure the salary differential. 

Lets say NRL and AFL have a 20 game home and way season and the top team wins 15 of 20 and the bottom team 5 of 15. In a free market (soccer is a good example) should the best players for a year be paid similar amounts as the worst.  The answer is no. 

However socialism means overpayments can occur.  Just imagine the screaming if lawyers, doctors and other professionals were all compelled to pay about the same irrespective of their work ethic and ability.

In my opinion the clubs are at fault for agreeing (whether voluntarily or otherwise) to pay too much to very ordinary conveyances.  It follows an increase in the salary cap is not required to prop up bottom teams rather payment according to ability is required and if that means if players from bottom teams get a lot less so be it.  That way clubs will have plenty of salary cap space to buy better players and even up the comp. While AFL has a draft the need for reform may not be so compelling but it seems this is not the case in the NRL presumably because it is an international sport. 

I know nothing about NRL other than I used to follow the Bears from afar. For info on NRL and AFL salary caps see eg:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rugby_League_salary_cap and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AFL_salary_cap

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