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Offline byalongneck

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O.P. « 2009-Feb-05, 06:24 PM »
Tonight I heard over 1000 people watched Cousins play his first internal trial with Richmond.
Great marketing by Richmond, and I know there are Richmond supporters on this forum.  So when I normally bag them it is all in jest and hope they take it as footy banter.
However I must ask is it our society (I am starting to sound like a Phsyc) that is obsesed with cousins as a self confesed drug addict??
Look at Underbelly the series, my family loved it, personally I refused to watch it on moral grounds (might have to see what the fuss is about soon)

So are we all that obsesed about criminals until they affect our own family??
Would the Richmond faithful be happy if Ben sold their kids some of his stuff?

I am not suggesting Ben sells the stuff, but do we know he does not??
I could see some parents of kids with drug problems taking them to Richmond training to show what a reformed drug adict can do, but gees lets hope he does not let them down then.  I am sure there are not that many there for that reason though.

I am sure the Richmond supporters on this forum can tell me they are not that hard up for a good player they have to count the amount of possies Cousins gets in an internal trial before being wisked away at half time :wacko:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 06:41 PM Reply #1 »
I was personally more interested in the Pollack comeback, maybe the media got it wrong and the crowd was there to see him   :lol:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:16 PM Reply #2 »
I dont think people in general care about much until it affects them personally.

He's a champion that'd be why they're all there. Same as carlton/judd.


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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:25 PM Reply #3 »
Interesting then GB that he is a champ and they go to see him for that reason.
So then, why not so many people to see Harvey train, given that he is a triple brownlow medalist?  You may agrue the time off, so did as many go to see Wayne Carey train at Adelaide (oh hang on what he did was wrong wasn't it)

If he is such a champion, when Richmond played the W/C did that increase the crowd by that much, because they all come to see the champ :what:


Plenty of champs around to see without relying on self confessed drug adicts to be our roll models, but then again, maybe that is just my opinion  :wacko:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:29 PM Reply #4 »
Or did Harvey win 2, oh hang on I really don't care because he was such a good boy.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:38 PM Reply #5 »

I am not suggesting Ben sells the stuff, but do we know he does not??

Mate, you are an idiot.

Can you tell me how many times Cousins has tested positive to any drug ?

Do you know how many times he has been arrested for possessing and/ or using illegal drugs ?

Tell me how many times he has been convicted of possessing or taking any type of illegal drug ?

What everyone "knows" about him and his drug use has come straight from ben himself. He should be commended for the way he is trying to put his football life back together not accussed of selling drugs by you ..... and don't say you didn't mean that because saying what you did is putting the onus on someone else to prove a negative. You are the big mouth, how about some proof to your dangerous allegations.

What do you do for a living ?

You are not a doctor prescribing legal drugs are you ? Those same legal drugs that sees more people in hospital today than for any other reason. That is a fact.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:46 PM Reply #6 »
and pretty much on the same subject ........

What Phelps should have followed up with after his not needed apology.

Dear America,

I take it back. I donít apologize.

Because you know what? Itís none of your goddamned business. I work my ass off 10 months per year. Itís that hard work that gave you all those gooey feelings of patriotism last summer. If during my brief window of down time I want to relax, enjoy myself, and partake of a substance thatís a hell of a lot less bad for me than alcohol, tobacco, or, frankly, most of the prescription drugs most of you are taking, well, you can spare me the lecture.

I put myself through hell. I make my body do things nature never really intended us to endure. All world-class athletes do. We do it because you love to watch us push ourselves as far as we can possibly go. Some of us get hurt. Sometimes permanently. Youíre watching the Super Bowl tonight. Youíre watching 300 pound men smash each while running at full speed, in full pads. You know what the average life expectancy of an NFL player is? Fifty-five. Thatís about 20 years shorter than your average non-NFL player. Yet you watch. And cheer. And you jump up spill your beer when a linebacker lays out a wide receiver on a crossing route across the middle. The harder he gets hit, the louder and more enthusiastically you scream.

Yet you all get bent out of shape when Ricky Williams, or I, or Josh Howard smoke a little dope to relax. Why? Because the idiots youíve elected to make your laws have have without a shred of evidence beat it into your head that smoking marijuana is something akin to drinking antifreeze, and done only by dirty hippies and sex offenders.

Youíll have to pardon my cynicism. But I call bullshit. You donít give a damn about my health. You just get a voyeuristic thrill from watching an elite athlete fall from graceĖall the better if you get to exercise a little moral righteousness in the process. And itís hypocritical righteousness at that, given that 40 percent of you have tried pot at least once in your lives.

Hereís a crazy thought: If I can smoke a little dope and go on to win 14 Olympic gold medals, maybe pot smokers arenít doomed to lives of couch surfing and video games, as our moronic government would have us believe. In fact, the list of successful pot smokers includes not just world class athletes like me, Howard, Williams, and others, it includes Nobel Prize winners, Pulitzer Prize winners, the last three U.S. presidents, several Supreme Court justices, and luminaries and success stories from all sectors of business and the arts, sciences, and humanities.

So go ahead. Ban me from the next Olympics. Yank my endorsement deals. Stick your collective noses in the air and get all indignant on me. While youíre at it, keep arresting cancer and AIDS patients who dare to smoke the stuff because it deadens their pain, or enables them to eat. Keep sending in goon squads to kick down doors and shoot little old ladies, maim innocent toddlers, handcuff elderly post-polio patients to their beds at gunpoint, and slaughter the family pet.

Tell you what. Iíll make you a deal. Iíll apologize for smoking pot when every politician who ever did drugs and then voted to uphold or strengthen the drug laws marches his ass off to the nearest federal prison to serve out the sentence he wants to impose on everyone else for committing the same crimes he committed. Iíll apologize when the sons, daughters, and nephews of powerful politicians who get caught possessing or dealing drugs in the frat house or prep school get the same treatment as the no-name, probably black kid caught on the corner or the front stoop doing the same thing.

Until then, I for one will have none of it. I smoked pot. I liked it. Iíll probably do it again. I refuse to apologize for it, because by apologizing I help perpetuate this stupid lie, this idea that what someone puts into his own body on his own time is any of the governmentís damned business. Or any of yours. Iím not going to bend over and allow myself to be propaganda for this wasteful, ridiculous, immoral war.

Go ahead and tear me down if you like. But letís see you rationalize in your next lame ONDCP commercial how the greatest mother :censored: ing swimmer the world has ever seen . . . is also a proud pot smoker.

Yours,

Michael Phelps

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:50 PM Reply #7 »

I am not suggesting Ben sells the stuff, but do we know he does not??

Mate, you are an idiot.

Can you tell me how many times Cousins has tested positive to any drug ?

Do you know how many times he has been arrested for possessing and/ or using illegal drugs ?

Tell me how many times he has been convicted of possessing or taking any type of illegal drug ?

What everyone "knows" about him and his drug use has come straight from ben himself. He should be commended for the way he is trying to put his football life back together not accussed of selling drugs by you ..... and don't say you didn't mean that because saying what you did is putting the onus on someone else to prove a negative. You are the big mouth, how about some proof to your dangerous allegations.

What do you do for a living ?

You are not a doctor prescribing legal drugs are you ? Those same legal drugs that sees more people in hospital today than for any other reason. That is a fact.


So I am the idiot, What do I do for a living?

Firstly let me tackle the first thing, if a guy admits to a drug habit, it is okay then if he has never been caught is that right???
I am the first to commend him in his admission, hope it was not just to get him back into the AFL (oh there I go again suggesting things without actually accusing them)

Secondly I am not a doctor prescribing the drugs, I am someone who sees first hand what they do and have to pick people off the streets who are too out there to know who they are.  Then I have to go to the house of a mother or father and tell them that their loved one has passed away and somehow try to control them (even though I am not a relative)

Can't believe you would start a debate with "you are an idiot" and not know anything about me.
I tell you this, I would know more about Ben than you would about me and at least I just don't start the debate with "Cousins is an idiot"

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« 2009-Feb-05, 07:56 PM Reply #8 »
Hey here is an idea woody, lets allow all the athletes to take as many drugs as they like, that would be YAAAAA.

Tell you what, why don't we suggest they all smoke pot becase they work so hard, go ahead all you people that work so hard, smoke pot because now WOODY says it's ok.
Lets make it legal and then all those that make a buck out of selling it go either out of business or start selling the still illegal harder stuff that if you have visited a morg lately WOODY you would see a few of.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:00 PM Reply #9 »
and I love the fact you mention the athletes do it because we love to watch them, yeah I can just imagin them at home being told you have to go to do all this work, without any congratulation, and any multi-million dollar contracts, in fact without any pay, simply because people want you to  :lol:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:00 PM Reply #10 »
Firstly, I apologise for calling you an idiot...... sincerley.

Tell me then, Mr Plod,  how Ben can prove to you or anyone else that he is not selling drugs ? And why would he be required to anyway ? Does he have a track record in doing that ?

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:01 PM Reply #11 »
woody,
while he may not have been ' caught'  did he not flee his girlfreind(whilst driving)  and friends and do a runner when caught at a booze/alchohol bus??

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:02 PM Reply #12 »
The only way marijuana can kill anyone is if you drop a 50kg block from a great height and hit someone on the head with it ......

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:02 PM Reply #13 »
you are still obsessed with this selling issue, gees get over it, the original post was about the obsession of him training, nothing to do with selling.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:04 PM Reply #14 »
The only way marijuana can kill anyone is if you drop a 50kg block from a great height and hit someone on the head with it ......

or you traffic it in certain countries woody,
go ahead smoke it if you want and become as brain dead as the rest of the people that call me PLOD.
Pitty cousins could not preach the problems of taking drugs to a certain sports reader in WA.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:06 PM Reply #15 »
Mr. Plod is an affectionate term for a policeman........

and you really know nothing about marijuana except that it is illegal. I bet you don't even know why it was made illegal.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:10 PM Reply #16 »
woody, I really could not give a shit, I do not make the rules, the parliment does and we vote them in.
If you were actually sincere in your aplogy then I appreciate it, but it just did not seem so.  Have never been called Mr Plod from anyone who liked me.
I also believe marajuana can kill you if you drive, would you not agree???

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:11 PM Reply #17 »
The only way marijuana can kill anyone is if you drop a 50kg block from a great height and hit someone on the head with it ......


Not true Woody, I know of people who have committed suicide because of it putting them into a psychosis (think this is the word I am looking for)  and or deep depression ... I have seen pot addiction have some very horrible side effects on people  :(

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:13 PM Reply #18 »
Is it just me or have we got on the topic of marajuana from Cousins??
I would think Cousins went to rehab for a bit more that Marajuana, or am I reading too much into it. :shy:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:13 PM Reply #19 »
my apology was sincere and maybe it's best we leave the discussion alone ...... and yes, I agree  any drug that has phsychoactive ingredients can kill you on the road ....... I would not advocate that at all ......... no to drinking and driving and no to drugs (legal or illegal) and driving ....

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:14 PM Reply #20 »
The only way marijuana can kill anyone is if you drop a 50kg block from a great height and hit someone on the head with it ......


Not true Woody, I know of people who have committed suicide because of it putting them into a psychosis (think this is the word I am looking for)  and or deep depression ... I have seen pot addiction have some very horrible side effects on people  :(

Careful MagiC, you might start getting called Mr Plod too. :rolleyes:

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:15 PM Reply #21 »
Not true Woody, I know of people

Magic .... those people would have had existing underlying problems to do what they did .....

What I meant was you cannot overdose on marijuana like you can on heroin ...

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:18 PM Reply #22 »
I don't know much about Aussie rules but what are the thoughts on Cousins coming back as a footballer?

I've heard a few fans say that he won't play more than ten games at the most.

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:23 PM Reply #23 »
What about kissing cousins ? Far more interesting than this !

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« 2009-Feb-05, 08:45 PM Reply #24 »
Not true Woody, I know of people

Magic .... those people would have had existing underlying problems to do what they did .....

What I meant was you cannot overdose on marijuana like you can on heroin ...


Woody, just be careful now you are saying "those people would have" and yet you are looking for proof from me?

Gratlog, I do hope he lasts longer and the media frenzy goes away.



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