Author Topic: Bindi Cheers (Read 13097 times)

InTheKnow · O.P. « 2009-Jul-24, 04:05 PM »

Two-year-old Lucky Elmo will be having his 20th start at Randwick on Saturday. Trainer Bindi Cheers says there no reason why Lucky Elmo won't have 300 starts during his career

Magiciansmask · « 2009-Jul-24, 04:08 PM **Reply #1** »

Sounds like the trainer is trying to have it ridden more times than Linda Lovelace

Authorized · « 2009-Jul-24, 04:14 PM **Reply #2** »

She is right, provided he is sound and healthy why shouldn't he have 300 runs in his career ?

gratlog · « 2009-Jul-24, 04:24 PM **Reply #3** »

Bindi had a good horse sometime back that had heaps of runs up here in Brisbane.

I might be wrong but I think that is right.

InTheKnow · « 2009-Jul-24, 04:58 PM **Reply #4** »

http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2003/08/02/1059480608265.html

yep gratlog, see link

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:04 PM **Reply #5** »

Quote from: gratlog on 2009-Jul-24, 04:24 PM

Bindi had a good horse sometime back that had heaps of runs up here in Brisbane.

I might be wrong but I think that is right.

she had quadri,which i think clocked up 120 odd starts

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:05 PM **Reply #6** »

and thats only because she didn't get him till he was 5 or 6 years old

MagiC~* · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:07 PM **Reply #7** »

There are plenty of ways to skin a cat, and racing them and not working them is one, anybody remember a horse called Picnic in the Park.

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:10 PM **Reply #8** »

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Jul-24, 05:07 PM

There are plenty of ways to skin a cat, and racing them and not working them is one, anybody remember a horse called Picnic in the Park.

did it win 21 straight around nth qld?

MagiC~* · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:12 PM **Reply #9** »

Yes mate, but not just north Qld,

The whole of queensland from memory, and maybe even NSW, somebody with a better memory then myself can elaborate.

The point being he never used to work the horse, just race him, some times 3 times in the one day

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:15 PM **Reply #10** »

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Jul-24, 05:12 PM

Yes mate, but not just north Qld,

The whole of queensland from memory, and maybe even NSW, somebody with a better memory then myself can elaborate.

The point being he never used to work the horse, just race him, some times 3 times in the one day

not all horses take a lot of racing though,bindi does it with all hers

MagiC~* · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:32 PM **Reply #11** »

Quote from: Da Judge on 2009-Jul-24, 05:15 PM

not all horses take a lot of racing though,bindi does it with all hers

Not all horses cop hard galloping 3 times a week either, and some trainers do that with all their horses

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:37 PM **Reply #12** »

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Jul-24, 05:32 PM

Not all horses cop hard galloping 3 times a week either, and some trainers do that with all their horses

trainers i know,only gallop twice a week,and not hard either

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:38 PM **Reply #13** »

i thought galloping 3 times a week went out 20 years ago

Da Judge · « 2009-Jul-24, 05:43 PM **Reply #14** »

i'm also not condemning her,as like you said,some horses handle a lot of racing

MagiC~* · « 2009-Jul-24, 06:04 PM **Reply #15** »

Quote from: Da Judge on 2009-Jul-24, 05:38 PM

i thought galloping 3 times a week went out 20 years ago

For some people maybe, but the point I am making, is there are a lot of different ways to train a horse, and not one method is right or wrong.

If I had the option to either race my horses every week, or gallop them hard 3 times a week ..... then I would select the first.

MagiC~* · « 2009-Jul-24, 06:05 PM **Reply #16** »

Quote from: Da Judge on 2009-Jul-24, 05:43 PM

i'm also not condemning her,as like you said,some horses handle a lot of racing

Authorized · « 2009-Jul-24, 06:32 PM **Reply #17** »

Quote from: MagiC~* on 2009-Jul-24, 06:04 PM

For some people maybe, but the point I am making, is there are a lot of different ways to train a horse, and not one method is right or wrong.

If I had the option to either race my horses every week, or gallop them hard 3 times a week ..... then I would select the first.

It is my belief that guenuine top flight finishing speed is diminished by either a lot of hard training or lots of and hard racing. But than only 1 in a thousand horses has top class finishing speed.

If you over race a horse or over train them, you will in my opinion dull their finishing speed.

This is however unquantifiable, it maybe that the siad horse is just plain slow.

Authorized · « 2009-Jul-24, 06:33 PM **Reply #18** »

If you click on any of these names you can see how Bindi Cheers has campaigned her horses.

Horses Trained

TRAJAN

barry baker · « 2009-Jul-24, 07:41 PM **Reply #19** »

I thought this was a thred celebrating Bindi Irwins 11th birthday.

Magiciansmask · « 2009-Jul-24, 07:43 PM **Reply #20** »

Quote from: barry baker on 2009-Jul-24, 07:41 PM

I thought this was a thred celebrating Bindi Irwins 11th birthday.

No mate, this is actually important

gallopers · « 2009-Jul-24, 07:52 PM **Reply #21** »

Quadri had 7 runs in jan 03 and quite often had 5 or 6 runs a month.
in one prep he had 97 runs and on his 85th start in on that prep won a race in town.
131 Starts. 16-19-13 $222,840

D-G · « 2009-Jul-24, 08:26 PM **Reply #22** »

Quote from: Authorized on 2009-Jul-24, 06:32 PM

It is my belief that guenuine top flight finishing speed is diminished by either a lot of hard training or lots of and hard racing. But than only 1 in a thousand horses has top class finishing speed.

If you over race a horse or over train them, you will in my opinion dull their finishing speed.

This is however unquantifiable, it maybe that the siad horse is just plain slow.

No doubt in my mind this is true.

Horses trained or raced hard will run over further distance but not have the same speed - no surprise there!
The key is knowing the horse you are dealing with and which method it is best suited to.
Time and again you will see sprinters trained and placed like middle distance horses/stayers and underperform and vice versa.
If Bindi picks /has the right horses in her stable what she does will work as has been proven.

InTheKnow · « 2009-Jul-28, 11:47 AM **Reply #23** »

anyone got a pic of her ?

Authorized · « 2009-Jul-28, 12:17 PM **Reply #24** »

Quote from: InTheKnow on 2009-Jul-28, 11:47 AM

anyone got a pic of her ?

I have to ask, WHY ?