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Offline InTheKnow

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O.P. « 2009-Nov-10, 12:41 PM »
to retire

Offline gallopers

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« 2009-Nov-10, 12:52 PM Reply #1 »
heard he had 25 horses on the books and only has 17 now. with only 17 after costs hes loosing $6000.00 a month. hence the business was no longer viable.

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« 2009-Nov-10, 12:54 PM Reply #2 »
100% correct gallopers  :)

Offline BillandTony

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« 2009-Nov-10, 01:03 PM Reply #3 »
BMS has always been fussy on what horses he has had in his stables this has probably come back to hurt him.

Always one of my fave trainers and will be sad to see him go.

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« 2009-Nov-10, 01:09 PM Reply #4 »
Sad day indeed.

Can someone enlighten me on the financials year - how can a trainer with 17 be losing $6K a week while others with boutique stables of less than 10 that would be lucky to get 1 metro winner a year be OK (I have Sydney in mind in terms of the trainers)?

Was BMS geared up for a bigger operation and simply couldn't scale down to make it work?

Not disputing, just trying to understand?

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« 2009-Nov-10, 01:27 PM Reply #5 »
Maybe it has something to do with stable rents and staff numbers.

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« 2009-Nov-10, 01:42 PM Reply #6 »
He has had a pretty small team for a while now but he used to have one of the top strike rates going around and I'd imagine this has fallen heavily. So he probably relied on prizemoney much more than other stables and this just hasn't been coming in.

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« 2009-Nov-10, 01:44 PM Reply #7 »
The high strike rate might be due to the selective policy. A lot of his were short odds, bit like Freedman in that respect.

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« 2009-Nov-10, 02:29 PM Reply #8 »
Brian Mayfield-Smith intends to take a holiday in Africa in December to decide his long-term future after announcing he will retire from training at the end of the month.

Mayfield-Smith, 62, said it was not economically viable to continue to train out of his Flemington stables as he needed 25 horses in work to break even but currently has 17.

Orange County, Stickpin, Samburu Warrior and Goldfield Ashes have been retired over the spring carnival while Famous Roman has returned to Western Australia.

Mayfield-Smith and his wife Maree have a passion for Africa and wildlife conservation and that is what drew them to the Kenyan bush for two years in the mid-1990s.

"We went back there last year which was great but we haven't been back there a hell of a lot. I think we have been back to Africa three times since we left there in 1997," he said.

Mayfield-Smith is best known as the trainer who ended the legendary Tommy Smith's 33-year reign in the Sydney premiership in the 1985-1986 season.

The former outback Queensland stockman won three successive premierships in Sydney from his then Rosehill base.

Upon his return to Australia after his stint in Africa, he resurrected his career from a new base at Flemington where he started with two tried horses, Wry Hero and Great Condor, who both won stakes races for him.

In the dozen years since he has landed 600 winners and 74 stakeswinners including 10 Group One victories.

Among the 30 individual Group One winners he prepared throughout his career were Marauding, Handy Proverb, Marooned, Diamond Shower, Rubitano, Oliver Twist, Special Dane and Sudurka.

His latest at the highest level was Orange County in the 2008 Rupert Clarke Stakes.

He always wanted to win a Melbourne Cup but the closest he got was third with Maybe Better behind the Japanese pair Delta Blues and Pop Rock in 2006.

Mayfield-Smith has two runners at Seymour Wednesday and has Encroacher and Greatwall Of China nominated for the Baryshnikov Handicap (1300m) at Sandown on Saturday.


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« 2009-Nov-10, 03:43 PM Reply #9 »
Not the trainer he once was ... :(....far enough you need the cattle but his heart in game was gone long ago...

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:40 AM Reply #10 »
Terrific interview with Steve Moran this morning on Sport927. I assume that it will be available on Podcast soon ... worthwhile listening. Brian has always been a gentleman and a fine trainer.

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:51 AM Reply #11 »
Maybe it has something to do with stable rents and staff numbers.

Sounds about right need to fill all the stalls he has to  pay  rent on 25 even if not occupied and rents on course wouldn't be cheap.Owners have to pay extra? would make him uncompetitive ?

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« 2009-Nov-11, 07:50 PM Reply #12 »
Interesting interview. He's not broke or anything like that, in fact he admitted life has been very good to him especailly since being in Melbourne. He's just being smart about the financial situation going forward, but gives impression he still wants to train. After he comes back from Africa I wonder if he'd consider moving back north and work with brother Lawrie  :chin:

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:05 PM Reply #13 »
Terrific interview with Steve Moran this morning on Sport927. I assume that it will be available on Podcast soon ... worthwhile listening. Brian has always been a gentleman and a fine trainer.

  emthup

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:11 PM Reply #14 »
I was hoping he would win the Cup last year with his very good horse.

I cant remember it now.

A long and Happy retirement to him.

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:17 PM Reply #15 »
Maybe Better  ;)

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:28 PM Reply #16 »
That is the one.

Thanks to Gintara.

GS

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:31 PM Reply #17 »
He didn't have a horse in our Calcutta did he?

Might have tipped him over the edge.

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:36 PM Reply #18 »
What a Shame, i reckon he is in my top 5 all time great trainers,the bloke
is afreak, and as already stated, what a great interview this morn,
Good luck to you brian and watch those bloody lions mate  emthup

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« 2009-Nov-11, 08:37 PM Reply #19 »
He didn't have a horse in our Calcutta did he?

Might have tipped him over the edge.


 :nowink: :nowink: :nowink:  :lol:

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« 2009-Nov-11, 09:29 PM Reply #20 »
Amazing to say he is losing 6000 a week with 17 horses in work  :what:  Fantastic trainer bad businessman.

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« 2009-Nov-11, 10:29 PM Reply #21 »
A great trainer and a great humanitarian.

Will be missed.

Offline Rad

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« 2009-Nov-12, 11:02 AM Reply #22 »
Matt Stewart writes some very good racing stories and he has done this article about BMS in today's Herald Sun:

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/special-reports/horse-trainer-brian-mayfield-smith-makes-right-decision-to-retire/story-e6frf8wx-1225796692922

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« 2009-Nov-20, 09:11 AM Reply #23 »
Terry Butts from NQ did a story a little different .Reproduced on this Racing Around section in:-

www.letsgohorseracing.com.au

Cheers Brian  :beer:

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« 2010-Jun-25, 07:48 PM Reply #24 »
To return to the training ranks !!


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