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Offline Peter Mair

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« 2022-Apr-10, 05:08 PM Reply #675 »

Agreed -- the races should not have been run at Randwick yesterday

I reckon you just throw yesterday in the bin, not just VE but the whole day. I highly doubt the form will stack up going forward

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« 2022-Apr-14, 07:49 PM Reply #676 »
Considering he will get 10% plus the training fees he gets, it is very lucrative if you are Waller. Gai used to get stud fees as part of the rewards from memory from some of the GS winning colts but I could be wrong.

https://www.racenet.com.au/news/chris-waller-can-smash-the-40m-prizemoney-barrier-20220414

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« 2022-May-12, 09:08 PM Reply #677 »

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« 2022-May-13, 02:01 PM Reply #678 »
Here are some Group 1 races in France that Verry Elleegant could run in:

21/08/2022.   DEAUVILLE   DARLEY PRIX JEAN ROMANET   2,000   4yo+ F   Total: €250,000:   €142,850 (1st), €57,150 (2nd), €28,575 (3rd), €14,275 (4th), €7,150 (5th).

11/09/2022.   PARISLONGCHAMP   QATAR PRIX VERMEILLE   2,400   3yo+ F   Total: €600,000:   €342,840 (1st), €137,160 (2nd), €68,580 (3rd), €34,260 (4th), €17,160 (5th).

1/10/2022.   PARISLONGCHAMP   QATAR PRIX DE ROYALLIEU   2,800   3yo+ F   Total: €300,000:   €171,420 (1st), €68,580 (2nd), €34,290 (3rd), €17,130 (4th), €8,580 (5th). or
2/10/2022.   PARISLONGCHAMP   QATAR PRIX DE L’ARC DE TRIOMPHE   2,400   3yo+ C&F   Total: €5,000,000:   €2,857,000 (1st), €1,143,000 (2nd), €571,500 (3rd), €285,500 (4th), €143,000 (5th).

23/10/2022.   PARISLONGCHAMP   ROYAL-OAK   3,100   3yo+   Total: €350,000:   €199,990 (1st), €80,010 (2nd), €40,005 (3rd), €19,985 (4th), €10,010 (5th).



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« 2022-May-21, 05:57 PM Reply #679 »
Brad Gray, the Sky Central tipster was discussing one on his selections today...the C Waller trained Shibli.

According to Brad the horse will just "bounce off" his last start heart arrhythmia and be in the finish.
Poor Shibli, he didn't bounce off the heart condition at all ....beaten 73 lengths with another heart issue.
The heart is such a vital organ.

What can you say?....such a very public display.


Shibli – From a wide barrier was shifted behind runners in the early stages. B. Avdulla
stated that when he became concerned there may be something amiss with the
gelding, he eased it down over the final 200m. A post-race veterinary examination
revealed the gelding to be displaying a heart irregularity. Trainer Mr C. Waller was
advised that a veterinary clearance, including satisfactory ultrasound results, will be
required before Shibli barrier trials to the satisfaction of the Stewards prior to its next
race star.


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« 2022-Jun-19, 02:55 PM Reply #680 »
Home Affairs, Nature Strip and Very Elegant contributed 7 of Waller’s 10 Australian G1 races this racing year. With Home Affairs retiring and the other 2 getting older, it is very hard to see how he can replicate the G1 wins of the 10 years.

He will probably win the most races next season with his numbers but the quality is getting less unless his current 2yos and 3yos step upto another level.

His tactics of wining with o/s stayers has been copied but trainers are now getting better quality horses now.


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« 7 hours ago Reply #681 »
Going through results yesterday I noticed Disorderly's most extraordinary beaten margin R2 Newcastle.....155 lengths :o
I will admit to thinking another Waller heart arrhythmia.....not so this time.
It does follow a trial with a beaten margin of 50 lengths  :o...22 days ago.
Here is the trial....last 400 m will do.

https://racing.racingnsw.com.au/InteractiveForm/Meeting.aspx?meetcode=MjM4MDE5NzY1ODg%3d&BodyClass=Popup#Race8

What checks and balances are in place when a horse is sent out to race over 1400m, 3 weeks after experiencing that....by stable and stewards.
How could the horse not have suffered some fairly serious muscle damage right here?.....just an absolute disgrace for everyone involved.
Jock looks to pull out the stick in the race yesterday. :what:..400 after the start. :what:
Is the Waller stable just a factory farm ?

Spare me the Waller hater/obsession/noise nonsense as well.....deal with what you see here!
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« 6 hours ago Reply #682 »
Nem, have you or will you contact the stewards and ask for an explanation?

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« 6 hours ago Reply #683 »
Nem, have you or will you contact the stewards and ask for an explanation?

Isn't great to see nemesis following NSW provincial racing with such fine detail.

The stewards published this about Disorderly (which you can get from the Racing NSW web site)

Disorderly – Slow to begin. A post-race veterinary examination of the gelding, which
was eased down at the 1000m and took no competitive part in the event, did not reveal
any abnormalities. Stable representative Ms C Heuston was advised Disorderly must
barrier trial to the satisfaction of the Stewards prior to being permitted to race again. Ms
Heuston advised she will report back on the post-race condition of Disorderly in the days
subsequent.


What this report failed to state, and what would be on everyone's minds, is why the jockey felt the need to take it out of the race at the 1000m mark?

Has it lost it's competiveness? Maybe Chris is too soft on his horses?

Perhaps nemesis thinks it could do with a spell in the company of some former Victorian trainers who would "make"it competitive.

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« 6 hours ago Reply #684 »
I've contacted racing Stewards twice Wily.

NSW.....once....re pre race blood testing. and got a fairly prompt 1 sentence reply.
That was before I understood about Lasix and noticed where it was described as a "preventative' drug and oh....a drug masker as well in the Junoob inquiry :what:

Vic....once... re the very sad demise of Annus Mirabilis .
Still waiting for an explanation there.

Lets just say I have very little faith in racing stewardship these days here.
Like I said horse racing is played out on our our screens everyday.
These horses that give us so much, deserve a lot better than that.

Surely Disorderly should have trialed after an incident like that.
I'm no vet, but I would have just walked and swum any animal I trained that experienced that....for 3 weeks minimum...that must have hurt the horse.

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« 5 hours ago Reply #685 »
Isn't great to see nemesis following NSW provincial racing with such fine detail.

The stewards published this about Disorderly (which you can get from the Racing NSW web site)

Disorderly – Slow to begin. A post-race veterinary examination of the gelding, which
was eased down at the 1000m and took no competitive part in the event, did not reveal
any abnormalities. Stable representative Ms C Heuston was advised Disorderly must
barrier trial to the satisfaction of the Stewards prior to being permitted to race again. Ms
Heuston advised she will report back on the post-race condition of Disorderly in the days
subsequent.


What this report failed to state, and what would be on everyone's minds, is why the jockey felt the need to take it out of the race at the 1000m mark?

Has it lost it's competiveness? Maybe Chris is too soft on his horses?

Perhaps nemesis thinks it could do with a spell in the company of some former Victorian trainers who would "make"it competitive.
This post comes close to equaling your most famous Racing is cleaner than ever
However that gold medal statement remains unequalled
Disorderly was very competitive in his trial...until his back legs went.

Strike me pink....now Darren Weirs name comes up.
Not much there with you.... is there?...Pointless Pen 7...oh bloody spellcheck!

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« 4 hours ago Reply #686 »
Nem, in hindsight, yes you are correct. His stumble in the trial may have taken more out of him than was obvious. God, I fell down during the week and thought I’d really budgeted myself badly. 10 minutes later I was ok. Not all falls and stumbles lead to the injuries that hindsight highlights in this instance  :chin:

In saying that, the vets found no issue with the horse so I don’t know what to say. The only thing that could arise is, do stewards do reports on trials?
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« 4 hours ago Reply #687 »
In my running days Wily I once had pulled a hamstring....it wasn't one of the sharp tears that pulls you straight up.

Wasted so much time and money  on Physio's wondering why I couldn't break out of much more than a jog
It was only after reading one runner's account of his hamstring, in one of my Runner's mags..I realised what was wrong.
21 days and let mother nature do her thing....off I went....but slowly at first

Had something very similar with my little genuine greyhound bitch as well.
Jumped well, then gradually lost ground....my excuse....I was a novice greyhound trainer!

I understand how difficult muscle tears can be to diagnose.
No way in the world that Disorderly should have been presented at a racetrack yesterday.
Surely someone in the Waller stable could have had the horse properly checked and a "make sure" gallop as well....went 400 metres yesterday.
Just a disgrace!....are they novices there as well?

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« 1 hour ago Reply #688 »
Why are you so contemptuous of you compatriot Chris Waller?

These things happen - not just to the Waller stable.

I too used to be a keen runner. You can avoid "hammies" with the correct stretching/warmup regime, not getting out of your rhythmn (they are essentially a sprinter's injury) and not being cheap on shoes!

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« 36 minutes ago Reply #689 »
Contemptuous????...this is what I expected from you when I posted.

C Waller lost me a bit when he made his declaration re Lasix at the Junoob "inquiry"
Lost me completely since....but he's not the only one.

If he truly believed then that Lasix was giving his horses "longevity"...he couldn't possibly believe it now.
Why is it completely banned in HK?...when longevity really does matter.

As far as hammies go....we had a group of generally "older white males" who used to turn up for a bit of "speed work" in the local park.

Not really a lot of speed, but it was good fun!


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