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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:09 PM Reply #25 »

Can someone please explain why the ultimate owner of a horse matters when this owner has nothing to do with the training and managing of the horses performances?

Even in recent times there have been dodgy arrangements confusing owners and trainers and nominal trainers to say nothing of punters perceptions of problems never run to ground.

No sport, No business should knowingly want criminals or encourage criminals to be part of the enterprise no matter how miner the involvement.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:36 PM Reply #26 »
No sport, No business should knowingly want criminals or encourage criminals to be part of the enterprise no matter how miner the involvement.

Unfortunately, the sport/industry ceases to exist if that were to be the case.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:40 PM Reply #27 »
Unfortunately, the sport/industry ceases to exist if that were to be the case.

Can you name any convicted criminals who passed the relevant Stewards tests that are currently involved in racing.

I guess Chris Munce is an example of the racing industry bending the rules to let a criminal back into the sport but I can not think of too many others.


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« 2017-Sep-26, 04:02 PM Reply #28 »
Can you name any convicted criminals who passed the relevant Stewards tests that are currently involved in racing.

I guess Chris Munce is an example of the racing industry bending the rules to let a criminal back into the sport but I can not think of too many others.

Waterhouse

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« 2017-Sep-26, 04:48 PM Reply #29 »
Perception I suppose.

Imagine if Azkadellia won the Mel. cup and Peter Foster was wheeled out to do a winning owner's speech on Melbourne's biggest day.

Reminds me of the time a "Lady of The Night" was a part owner of a horse favoured to win the Grand National Hurdle at Flemington and the then, Chairman of the VRC, was going to refuse to present the trophy to the said Lady if the horse had won.
They could have written a book about that champion jumper and the scandal involving that high-class call girl, a gifted but unlicensed horseman, a television and radio personality, and an aspiring VFL footballer, although it was a long time ago, however it is still part of racing folklore.
That television personality went onto win a Gold Logie and one of his daughters won a Miss Australia title, whilst that VRL footballer has gone to be nationally recognised today in television commercials for an Australian primary food product.
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« 2017-Sep-26, 05:06 PM Reply #30 »
Waterhouse


What convictions does he have ?

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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:10 PM Reply #31 »

What convictions does he have ?

In 1992, however, Robbie was convicted of lying to the Racing Appeals Tribunal and he was sentenced to eight months' periodic detention at Long Bay jail. Admitting ''gross stupidity'', he denied being the ring leader, said he was following the money, and he claimed he lied to protect a punter and distance himself from the scandal.

from the "border mail" 2010

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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:17 PM Reply #32 »
Big issues for Ciaron Maherís stables
Posted by: AAP+Filled in: Horse Racing News | 26/9/2017 at 11:36am
Ciaron Maherís assistant and brother will not be able to take over the Victorian trainerís stables during his six-month suspension.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey says Maherís assistant David Eustace and brother Declanís current trainersí licences do not allow them to run a large team of horses.

ďThey donít have the required level of licence to take over such a large team and therefore I couldnít see that being a possibility given Ciaronís got seven days to make arrangements,Ē Bailey told RSN on Tuesday.

Bailey says moving an outside trainer into Maherís stables is another option, but they cannot simply be a figurehead.

ďWe need to be satisfied that whoever it is, is acting alone and that Mr Maher has absolutely no involvement.Ē

He said Ciaron Maher Racing cannot continue to employ the staff.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 after pleading guilty to conduct prejudicial to racing.

The Caulfield Cup-winning trainer did not know about convicted conman Peter Fosterís involvement in the ownership of five horses in his stable including Group One winner Azkadellia, but accepts he should have known.ENDS

He claims he "did not know" if you can believe it ......created a big pickle now for the owners and for his staff.

Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:30 PM Reply #33 »


John Kerr and an efficient trainer both got gigs on cup day -- as have some others.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 08:25 PM Reply #34 »
Reminds me of the time a "Lady of The Night" was a part owner of a horse favoured to win the Grand National Hurdle at Flemington and the then, Chairman of the VRC, was going to refuse to present the trophy to the said Lady if the horse had won.
They could have written a book about that champion jumper and the scandal involving that high-class call girl, a gifted but unlicensed horseman, a television and radio personality, and an aspiring VFL footballer, although it was a long time ago, however it is still part of racing folklore.
That television personality went onto win a Gold Logie and one of his daughters won a Miss Australia title, whilst that VRL footballer has gone to be nationally recognised today in television commercials for an Australian primary food product.
Bit easier than your Quiz posers.






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« 2017-Sep-27, 10:05 AM Reply #35 »
Jfc.what about the names of  dummy trainer, the registered trainer and the lady of the night ?

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« 2017-Sep-27, 10:50 AM Reply #36 »
Didn't take me lots of time to discover those answers, so I'll leave this easy one for others to attempt.

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« 2017-Sep-27, 11:53 AM Reply #37 »
Bubba I will have a go. George Eccles, Norm Creighton and Sally Wood.

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« 2017-Sep-27, 12:07 PM Reply #38 »
Big issues for Ciaron Maherís stables
Posted by: AAP+Filled in: Horse Racing News | 26/9/2017 at 11:36am
Ciaron Maherís assistant and brother will not be able to take over the Victorian trainerís stables during his six-month suspension.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey says Maherís assistant David Eustace and brother Declanís current trainersí licences do not allow them to run a large team of horses.

ďThey donít have the required level of licence to take over such a large team and therefore I couldnít see that being a possibility given Ciaronís got seven days to make arrangements,Ē Bailey told RSN on Tuesday.



Bailey says moving an outside trainer into Maherís stables is another option, but they cannot simply be a figurehead.

ďWe need to be satisfied that whoever it is, is acting alone and that Mr Maher has absolutely no involvement.Ē

He said Ciaron Maher Racing cannot continue to employ the staff.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 after pleading guilty to conduct prejudicial to racing.

The Caulfield Cup-winning trainer did not know about convicted conman Peter Fosterís involvement in the ownership of five horses in his stable including Group One winner Azkadellia, but accepts he should have known.ENDS

He claims he "did not know" if you can believe it ......created a big pickle now for the owners and for his staff.

Giddy Up :beer:


I bet Ciaron Maher regrets appearing on the program "After The Last " the other night.

Even Bill Clinton was more credible.


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« 2017-Sep-27, 03:30 PM Reply #39 »
Bubba I will have a go. George Eccles, Norm Creighton and Sally Wood.
What ever happened to Sallly?


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« 2017-Sep-28, 04:36 AM Reply #40 »
Didn't take me lots of time to discover those answers, so I'll leave this easy one for others to attempt.
All you need to do is google

Hannan Kekovich



http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/lots-of-time-to-jump-to-conclusions-20130713-2pwzv.html

But finding a free image of Sally Wood has me stumped.
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« 2017-Sep-28, 05:23 PM Reply #41 »
Not that Ciaron is any relation,but does anyone remember Brian Maher and his racehorse syndications some years ago ?  If I recall he put Roy Higgins into a pub near Cairns and Roy was given the short back and sides.

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« 2017-Sep-28, 05:29 PM Reply #42 »
Yes. The Freshwater Hotel. 

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« 2017-Sep-28, 06:13 PM Reply #43 »
Purcell to take over Maher's stable

Andrew Eddy@fastisheddy   4:01pm
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Warrnambool-based trainer Aaron Purcell has been given in-principal approval to take over the Caulfield stables of Ciaron Maher from next Tuesday.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey said on Thursday afternoon that a verbal agreement had been confirmed between the two trainers, with 40-year-old Purcell consenting to make a move to Melbourne to run Maher's burgeoning team at Caulfield while also maintaining his own Warrnambool stable.

Maher and Purcell have known each other for many years while both were based permanently at Warrnambool.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 by the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board over the ownership details of five of his horses, including the Group 1 mare Azkadellia.

These horses were listed as being owned by Maher's former racing manager Ben Connolly when they in fact had links to convicted conman Peter Foster.

Bailey said stewards had agreed with the installation of Purcell as the trainer of Maher's horses as he was able to address a number of issues.

"One of our main issues was the employment of the staff and Aaron Purcell has provided us with a structure that addresses all that," Bailey said.

"The other issue was the amount of time he will be spending at Caulfield, which will be the majority of the time, which ticks a box for us.

"The parties involved will need to sign a deed of understanding, which is being drafted up now. The contents of that has been agreed to, in principal."

Maher on Thursday notified his extensive list of owners that Purcell will be the new trainer of the horses until Maher's suspension ends on April 2 next year.

The owners have the option of keeping their horses with Purcell or relocating them to another stable.


Giddy Up  :beer:


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