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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:09 PM Reply #25 »

Can someone please explain why the ultimate owner of a horse matters when this owner has nothing to do with the training and managing of the horses performances?

Even in recent times there have been dodgy arrangements confusing owners and trainers and nominal trainers to say nothing of punters perceptions of problems never run to ground.

No sport, No business should knowingly want criminals or encourage criminals to be part of the enterprise no matter how miner the involvement.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:36 PM Reply #26 »
No sport, No business should knowingly want criminals or encourage criminals to be part of the enterprise no matter how miner the involvement.

Unfortunately, the sport/industry ceases to exist if that were to be the case.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 03:40 PM Reply #27 »
Unfortunately, the sport/industry ceases to exist if that were to be the case.

Can you name any convicted criminals who passed the relevant Stewards tests that are currently involved in racing.

I guess Chris Munce is an example of the racing industry bending the rules to let a criminal back into the sport but I can not think of too many others.


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« 2017-Sep-26, 04:02 PM Reply #28 »
Can you name any convicted criminals who passed the relevant Stewards tests that are currently involved in racing.

I guess Chris Munce is an example of the racing industry bending the rules to let a criminal back into the sport but I can not think of too many others.

Waterhouse

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« 2017-Sep-26, 04:48 PM Reply #29 »
Perception I suppose.

Imagine if Azkadellia won the Mel. cup and Peter Foster was wheeled out to do a winning owner's speech on Melbourne's biggest day.

Reminds me of the time a "Lady of The Night" was a part owner of a horse favoured to win the Grand National Hurdle at Flemington and the then, Chairman of the VRC, was going to refuse to present the trophy to the said Lady if the horse had won.
They could have written a book about that champion jumper and the scandal involving that high-class call girl, a gifted but unlicensed horseman, a television and radio personality, and an aspiring VFL footballer, although it was a long time ago, however it is still part of racing folklore.
That television personality went onto win a Gold Logie and one of his daughters won a Miss Australia title, whilst that VRL footballer has gone to be nationally recognised today in television commercials for an Australian primary food product.
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« 2017-Sep-26, 05:06 PM Reply #30 »
Waterhouse


What convictions does he have ?

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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:10 PM Reply #31 »

What convictions does he have ?

In 1992, however, Robbie was convicted of lying to the Racing Appeals Tribunal and he was sentenced to eight months' periodic detention at Long Bay jail. Admitting ''gross stupidity'', he denied being the ring leader, said he was following the money, and he claimed he lied to protect a punter and distance himself from the scandal.

from the "border mail" 2010

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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:17 PM Reply #32 »
Big issues for Ciaron Maher’s stables
Posted by: AAP+Filled in: Horse Racing News | 26/9/2017 at 11:36am
Ciaron Maher’s assistant and brother will not be able to take over the Victorian trainer’s stables during his six-month suspension.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey says Maher’s assistant David Eustace and brother Declan’s current trainers’ licences do not allow them to run a large team of horses.

“They don’t have the required level of licence to take over such a large team and therefore I couldn’t see that being a possibility given Ciaron’s got seven days to make arrangements,” Bailey told RSN on Tuesday.

Bailey says moving an outside trainer into Maher’s stables is another option, but they cannot simply be a figurehead.

“We need to be satisfied that whoever it is, is acting alone and that Mr Maher has absolutely no involvement.”

He said Ciaron Maher Racing cannot continue to employ the staff.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 after pleading guilty to conduct prejudicial to racing.

The Caulfield Cup-winning trainer did not know about convicted conman Peter Foster’s involvement in the ownership of five horses in his stable including Group One winner Azkadellia, but accepts he should have known.ENDS

He claims he "did not know" if you can believe it ......created a big pickle now for the owners and for his staff.

Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2017-Sep-26, 07:30 PM Reply #33 »


John Kerr and an efficient trainer both got gigs on cup day -- as have some others.

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« 2017-Sep-26, 08:25 PM Reply #34 »
Reminds me of the time a "Lady of The Night" was a part owner of a horse favoured to win the Grand National Hurdle at Flemington and the then, Chairman of the VRC, was going to refuse to present the trophy to the said Lady if the horse had won.
They could have written a book about that champion jumper and the scandal involving that high-class call girl, a gifted but unlicensed horseman, a television and radio personality, and an aspiring VFL footballer, although it was a long time ago, however it is still part of racing folklore.
That television personality went onto win a Gold Logie and one of his daughters won a Miss Australia title, whilst that VRL footballer has gone to be nationally recognised today in television commercials for an Australian primary food product.
Bit easier than your Quiz posers.






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« 2017-Sep-27, 10:05 AM Reply #35 »
Jfc.what about the names of  dummy trainer, the registered trainer and the lady of the night ?

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« 2017-Sep-27, 10:50 AM Reply #36 »
Didn't take me lots of time to discover those answers, so I'll leave this easy one for others to attempt.

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« 2017-Sep-27, 11:53 AM Reply #37 »
Bubba I will have a go. George Eccles, Norm Creighton and Sally Wood.

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« 2017-Sep-27, 12:07 PM Reply #38 »
Big issues for Ciaron Maher’s stables
Posted by: AAP+Filled in: Horse Racing News | 26/9/2017 at 11:36am
Ciaron Maher’s assistant and brother will not be able to take over the Victorian trainer’s stables during his six-month suspension.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey says Maher’s assistant David Eustace and brother Declan’s current trainers’ licences do not allow them to run a large team of horses.

“They don’t have the required level of licence to take over such a large team and therefore I couldn’t see that being a possibility given Ciaron’s got seven days to make arrangements,” Bailey told RSN on Tuesday.



Bailey says moving an outside trainer into Maher’s stables is another option, but they cannot simply be a figurehead.

“We need to be satisfied that whoever it is, is acting alone and that Mr Maher has absolutely no involvement.”

He said Ciaron Maher Racing cannot continue to employ the staff.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 after pleading guilty to conduct prejudicial to racing.

The Caulfield Cup-winning trainer did not know about convicted conman Peter Foster’s involvement in the ownership of five horses in his stable including Group One winner Azkadellia, but accepts he should have known.ENDS

He claims he "did not know" if you can believe it ......created a big pickle now for the owners and for his staff.

Giddy Up :beer:


I bet Ciaron Maher regrets appearing on the program "After The Last " the other night.

Even Bill Clinton was more credible.


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« 2017-Sep-27, 03:30 PM Reply #39 »
Bubba I will have a go. George Eccles, Norm Creighton and Sally Wood.
What ever happened to Sallly?


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« 2017-Sep-28, 04:36 AM Reply #40 »
Didn't take me lots of time to discover those answers, so I'll leave this easy one for others to attempt.
All you need to do is google

Hannan Kekovich



http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/lots-of-time-to-jump-to-conclusions-20130713-2pwzv.html

But finding a free image of Sally Wood has me stumped.
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« 2017-Sep-28, 05:23 PM Reply #41 »
Not that Ciaron is any relation,but does anyone remember Brian Maher and his racehorse syndications some years ago ?  If I recall he put Roy Higgins into a pub near Cairns and Roy was given the short back and sides.

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« 2017-Sep-28, 05:29 PM Reply #42 »
Yes. The Freshwater Hotel. 

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« 2017-Sep-28, 06:13 PM Reply #43 »
Purcell to take over Maher's stable

Andrew Eddy@fastisheddy   4:01pm
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Warrnambool-based trainer Aaron Purcell has been given in-principal approval to take over the Caulfield stables of Ciaron Maher from next Tuesday.

Racing Victoria chief steward Terry Bailey said on Thursday afternoon that a verbal agreement had been confirmed between the two trainers, with 40-year-old Purcell consenting to make a move to Melbourne to run Maher's burgeoning team at Caulfield while also maintaining his own Warrnambool stable.

Maher and Purcell have known each other for many years while both were based permanently at Warrnambool.

Maher was on Monday suspended for six months and fined $75,000 by the Racing Appeals and Disciplinary Board over the ownership details of five of his horses, including the Group 1 mare Azkadellia.

These horses were listed as being owned by Maher's former racing manager Ben Connolly when they in fact had links to convicted conman Peter Foster.

Bailey said stewards had agreed with the installation of Purcell as the trainer of Maher's horses as he was able to address a number of issues.

"One of our main issues was the employment of the staff and Aaron Purcell has provided us with a structure that addresses all that," Bailey said.

"The other issue was the amount of time he will be spending at Caulfield, which will be the majority of the time, which ticks a box for us.

"The parties involved will need to sign a deed of understanding, which is being drafted up now. The contents of that has been agreed to, in principal."

Maher on Thursday notified his extensive list of owners that Purcell will be the new trainer of the horses until Maher's suspension ends on April 2 next year.

The owners have the option of keeping their horses with Purcell or relocating them to another stable.


Giddy Up  :beer:

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« 2019-Feb-07, 05:05 PM Reply #44 »
Sitting in the doctor's waiting room this morning I came across a story in Outback magazine on the Mongol Derby won by two of Cairon Maher's staff.. Maher had intended participating but a leg injury forced him to pull out and he asked Adrian Corboy if he would take his place...in the magazine story Corboy had to lose 11kgs and turned to fitness and weight loss coach Ron Johnson who put him in fine fettle to undertake this mammoth assignment ...unfortunately the following is the best I can do the Outback mag story isn't accessible ...this is from the local rag pictures and video included....Ciaron isn't only a horse trainer he is an adventurer......maybe he'll have a go next year circumstances permitting. :thumbsup:

Mongol Derby 2018
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Happy winners Adrian Corboy and Annabel Neasham Pictu MONGOL DERBY

An Australian and his British workmate have won the 2018 Mongol Derby, the world’s longest and toughest horse race.
Wangaratta-based Adrian Corboy was crowned the joint winner after crossing the finish line of the 1000-kilometre trek across Mongolia with teammate Annabel Neasham.
Both work for trainer Ciaron Maher in Melbourne.
The event recreates the horse messenger system developed by Genghis Khan in 1224, using hardy and semi-wild native horses.
The riders, adventurers from around the world, cover up to 160 kilometres a day between dawn and dusk, navigating independently and changing horses at 40 km intervals.
The horse stations are manned by nomadic herding families as they traditionally were.
 
 Saif Noon's horse taking a roll in the mud. Photo Laurence Squire @ Mongol Derby 2018
Each horse is inspected by vets at the check points – if it is dehydrated or its heart rate is too high for too long, the rider is penalised and has to wait two hours before they can ride again.
This year the race featured 43 riders from 12 countries, 18 men and 26 women.
UK-based organisers The Adventurists noted that three of them had attempted the race before, while the other 41 Mongol Derby virgins were “our usual wonderful mix of professional riders and happy horsemen”, including “accountants (not so handy), nurses and vets (much handier) as well as a translator (but not in Mongolian), a fishing captain (useful in a landlocked country), and someone who works pack camels”.
In the video below, Australian Henry Bell demonstrates how to harness the speed of a bolting horse.

 
 

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“In Mongolia, bolting isn’t a vice, it’s a good thing – they quicker they run, the longer they live!” Adventurists HQ said.
The winning pair from Australia received no vet penalties at all throughout the race.
They completed the race in six days and faced typical Mongolian weather – monsoon rain, fog, boiling hot sun, cold one minute, hot the next  – as well as a flooded steppe with lots of rivers to cross.
On finishing the Mongol Derby, Neasham said: “People say when they finish, they could easily do another 1000km, well … I think I’m good with this.”
Corboy had been a late replacement for thoroughbred trainer Ciaron Maher, who told racing.com the win was an unbelievable effort.
 
 Annabel Neasham and Adrian Corboy racing in the Mongol Derby. Pictu MONGOL DERBY
Maher spoke to Corboy soon after the race finished, saying the Wangaratta trainer had been sore going into the last day, but remained determined.
“He said ‘I’m not going over there to take photos’, he was going over there to win,” Maher said.
“They’re both very tired, but they won it convincingly. It’s a great test of human strength and horsemanship and everything else rolled into one so they’re absolutely ecstatic.”
Adrian Corboy is the fourth Australian to win the event, which holds the Guinness World Record for the World’s Longest Horse Race.
https://www.bellingencourier.com.au/story/5591444/australians-win-the-1000km-mongol-derby-video/

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« 2019-Feb-19, 04:21 PM Reply #45 »
Ex-Weir staff laid off
 
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Ciaron Maher Racing has announced a dozen redundancies at its new Forest Lodge stables, which it recently acquired from Darren Weir following his four-year disqualification.

The news was confirmed on Tuesday afternoon via a media release.

"Following the recent acquisition of the stables formerly known as Forest Lodge, Ciaron Maher Racing confirms that after a thorough internal assessment of our ongoing horse numbers and structure, we have today made 12 redundancies to the workforce at our new Miners Rest location, with 61 staff members retaining their jobs," the statement said.

"Whilst it is never pleasant to undergo a process such as this, it needs to be understood that the number of horses that were managed previously at this location has reduced by some 35%, with the reduction in staff numbers at 16%.

"Our purchase of this facility has allowed a large number of staff to remain in their existing roles, with benefits and entitlements carried across under Ciaron Maher Racing.

"We are pleased and proud to have been able to retain the majority of staff here and look forward to fully integrating them into the Ciaron Maher Racing Team."

Ballarat Turf Club CEO Lachlan McKenzie said the club was disappointed for anyone to lose jobs in the Ballarat industry but was confident the staff would find new roles in local stables.

"It is thoroughly disappointing that 12 people have lost their jobs," he said.

"But there is a strong demand for stable staff and I'm confident they will be able to find new jobs in the area.

"You never want to see anyone lose their job, but if Ciaron hadn't been able to take over Forest Lodge so swiftly then many, many more would have also lost their jobs."

ENDS

No mention of engaging outplacement services to try and place the redundant persons in new positions or what redundancy payments are likely you would think RV would be proactive and make sure everyone involved receives some consideration maybe the AWU will be involved if any are members of the union.

Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2019-Feb-19, 04:24 PM Reply #46 »
I wonder how many of these staff members where involved in the Weir shenanigans ?


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