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« 2010-Jan-30, 10:49 AM Reply #25 »

High Hopes For Classy Hayes Import

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Friday, 29 January 2010: Trainer David Hayes unveils possibly the classiest import to grace his stable when former UK star Our Aqaleem has his first Australian start at Flemington on Saturday.

A six-year-old by Sinndar, Our Aqaleem  will be having his first start since 2007 when he was rated one of the best of his age in the UK after finishing third in the 2007 English Derby won by Authorised.

The entire, who was purchased as a Melbourne Cup hope and future stud prospect , has raced just five times with his form as a 3YO also including a win the G3 Lingfield Derby Trial and a second to Yellowstone in the G3 Gordon Stakes at Goodwood.

His long absence from racing has been the result of a suspensory ligament injury suffered after he raced in the Derby at Epsom.

Hayes said the stayer, who raced as Aqaleem in the UK, boasts the highest Timeform rating of any overseas horse to enter his stable.

"He's likely to have a couple of starts before we set him for the spring, said Hayes, a tried and successful program the Lindsay Park stable has applied to imports since the 1980s.

Meanwhile Hayes can only wait and hope that another of his top class imports, the English St Leger runner up Unsung Heroine, can recover from an injury and be prepared for a spring campaign.

Unsung Heroine suffered a tendon injury that became infected last spring after just one start for the Hayes stable.

Purchased from the UK for $2.4 million with the Melbourne Cup her goal, the mare was injured after racing in a 1700m event at Flemington in September.

She then contracted golden staph in the tendon and lost her mobility,

Changingoftheguard, the controversial race morning scratching from the Melbourne Cup in November, may make only a cameo appearance in the autumn.

Hayes said the former Irish stayer had problems acclimatising to Australian conditions.

"He's been trained out of the paddock and he'll continue like that, Hayes said.

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« 2010-Jan-30, 11:20 AM Reply #26 »
Be interesting to see what DH's strike rate would be if he was sleeping with Robbie.

Whaddy mean?

Once a night?

Three times a week?

Once a month?

Once every pancake day?

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« 2010-Jan-30, 03:13 PM Reply #27 »


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« 2010-Jan-30, 04:39 PM Reply #28 »
Looks as if I have got the stable up and going. :embarrassed: :embarrassed:

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« 2010-Jan-31, 05:54 PM Reply #29 »

DJH you are barking up the wrong tree comparing the strike rates of C Waller and G Waterhouse as the statistics below show.

C Waller

01/08/05 to 31/07/06        24/228    10.5  
01/08/06 to 31/07/07        53/306    17.3  
01/08/07 to 31/07/08        50/387    12.9  
01/08/08 to 31/07/09        86/706    12.2  
01/08/09 to 27/01/10        48/425    11.3  
             Total               261/2052   12.7  

G Waterhouse

01/08/05 to 31/07/06         199/914   21.8  
01/08/06 to 31/07/07         151/745   20.3  
01/08/07 to 31/07/08         107/477   22.4  
01/08/08 to 31/07/09         151/591   25.5  
01/08/09 to 27/01/10         66/280     23.6  
             Total                 674/3007   22.4  


I am not sure what you think those stats show.The fact Waller had more than 100 runners more than Gai last season with less than half the numbers and probably 1/5th the bankroll says something

Does it show that hundreds of Gais owners were dissapointed that their horse never got to the races after spending $10s thousands in training fees and $100s thousands up front?
I don't think so.
Gai is EXTREMELY protective of her strike rate. She trials horses to excess to make sure they are 95%+ fit at their first run. If they cannot win a trial they won't race for her(generally).
Other lower profile trainers which include Waller who are still establishing clientelle can't tell their owners "we are not going to run it because it is not good enough".
As I have said those stats do not take into account the fact that Gai has the pick of horses ie any horse she wants she will get as she has the biggest bankroll behind her.
This is certainly not to suggest Gai is not a top trainer as she clearly is( although it is interesting she has never won a Melb Cup Caul Cup , Cox Plate or AJC Derby)

All I am saying is the stats that  have been presented are not a guide to a trainers ability, they are merely the marketing tool some use.

For the record how many trainers in Australia trained a G1 winner on the weekend :shy:
« Last Edit: 2010-Jan-31, 06:05 PM by DJH »