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Offline richo

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« 2010-Apr-14, 04:39 PM Reply #50 »
if she wins this then nash should be forbidden to take any rides bar the waterhouse stable, i think she reads her press reports and believes she runs nsw racing.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 04:41 PM Reply #51 »
Nash Rawiller has developed from being a very good Jockey into a Superstar since being in Gai's camp, she lifts her Jocks a couple of levels both physically and mentally if they have the fortitude to stick it out.

I can see why she wants him to ride hers in a $1M race and not a rival trainers horse as she is basically putting a length or two on another trainers horse if he doesn't.

Well she should've made her mind up to run Theseo sooner then shouldn't she.  ;)

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« 2010-Apr-14, 04:48 PM Reply #52 »
Arakaan, it was allways paid up for the Doncaster as far as I am aware.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:07 PM Reply #53 »
Surely the Rangirangdoo booking has to stand? I understand why Gai would want Nash to ride, but for mine she is doing herself no favours here.

Nash was booked in good faith, they asked for a ruling and she doesn't like the decision so she goes to the supreme court?

Poor form for mine :thumbsd:

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:11 PM Reply #54 »
Have to agree with all - ridiculous.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:12 PM Reply #55 »
Arakaan, it was allways paid up for the Doncaster as far as I am aware.

She told him it wasn't running. That's why he took the other ride.

If she cant make up her mind then tough shit.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:12 PM Reply #56 »
Furthermore, would you want a jockey on your horse if he didn't want to ride it in the first place????

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:12 PM Reply #57 »
robbie either has theseo running for a stack at the long odds after she declared he's not running or has rangi a heavy liabilty

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:13 PM Reply #58 »
Furthermore, would you want a jockey on your horse if he didn't want to ride it in the first place????

He did, that is not the issue.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:34 PM Reply #59 »
You would have to say it is highly probable a split will occur.
Nash and Gai.

Reckon Gai doesn't have enough runners these days to claim Nash as hers. Sure Nash feels the same way.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 05:38 PM Reply #60 »
And what makes it even stupider, is the bloke she has to ride Theseo if Nash doesnt  :nowink:

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« 2010-Apr-14, 06:23 PM Reply #61 »
  :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:   :lol:  cmon Gai, D Beadman has lengths on Nash Anyday anyway,
It is just a case of Gai Wanting to be the Big Wig,  :nowink: :nowink: :nowink:

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« 2010-Apr-14, 07:09 PM Reply #62 »
She probably thinks Nash knows the horse better than anyone else and this has been proven by their past wins!   

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« 2010-Apr-14, 07:38 PM Reply #63 »
If stupidity was the benchmark, then more than half the contributors to this site would need to be "rubbed out"?   :what:

I like this.  (that statement includes me ) The good thing about being stupid is you can't put yourself above others.

And remember....sometimes acting stupid can save your life....look at Claudius.(they did eventually do him in)

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« 2010-Apr-14, 08:38 PM Reply #64 »
At what point is a jockey officially  'booked 'for a ride?
I would have thought when acceptances were due.
I can see why she thinks she has the right to challenge the decision.
Surely it is a bluff as much as anything though?
When will this case be heard in the Supreme Court?
6 months ? 12 months? probably longer

Offline JWesleyHarding

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« 2010-Apr-14, 08:48 PM Reply #65 »
Tomorrow 11.00am

Offline richo

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« 2010-Apr-14, 09:54 PM Reply #66 »
jockeys officially booked when he accepts the ride could be a week before acceptances.

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« 2010-Apr-14, 10:33 PM Reply #67 »
Tomorrow 11.00am
I should have read the story before posting  :shy:
How is it they can get this to the Supreme Court so quickly when everything else seems to take so long?

Richo in what capacity does he accept a ride.
I assume through a verbal contract which are easily challenged and hard to make stick.
This isn't the first time this issue has come up and it does noone any good.
I actually applaud Gai for forcing a clear cut rule to be implemented via the Supreme Court- no other trainer could probably afford to

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« 2010-Apr-14, 10:46 PM Reply #68 »
"He [Rawiller] was booked from day one," Waterhouse said at Canterbury today while adding "see you in the Supreme Court at 2.00 tomorrow afternoon."

Maybe there's some facts we don't know  :chin:

But those comments make Nash Rawiller either (a) look like a  :censored: stick if the horse was running or (b) he didn't want to ride the horse.

Logically it's neither and he accepted another ride as despite him having an autumn booking for the horse he specifically sought and or accepted a ride in this instance in good faith - which is indicative of the fact Theseo wasn't likely to run.

I mean she wanted to appeal the RacingNSW decision they considered that and said well we've got advice you can't appeal and she goes off to the Supreme Court.

It's not even clear in the stories on this whether the Supreme Court is even going to consider the actual matter they might just be making a determination about whether (a) she has a right of appeal and if that's granted (b) who should hear that appeal.

It's all a waste of time IMO and it's just not cricket. Hope she doesn't win.
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« 2010-Apr-14, 10:54 PM Reply #69 »
 Am i missing something? what does nash want to do?
 

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« 2010-Apr-14, 11:05 PM Reply #70 »
Directions (Equity Registrar) Gai Waterhouse v Nash Rawiller 02:00 PM 2010/00091359

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« 2010-Apr-14, 11:41 PM Reply #71 »
"At 2.30 tomorrow afternoon it will be held,” Waterhouse said.

Crikey I hope she checks the court lists - it's listed for 2pm Gai !

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« 2010-Apr-15, 12:28 AM Reply #72 »
On Saturday, 3rd April 2010, Nash Rawiller confirmed to Mr Waller that he would ride Rangirangdoo (NZ) in the Emirates Doncaster Mile after Mr Waller revealed a telephone call from Nash Rawiller’s manager Glenn Darcy seeking the ride on Nash Rawiller’s behalf when Corey Brown was injured in a race fall at Warwick Farm on 30th March 2010. Mr Waller further confirmed the engagement of Nash Rawiller for Rangirangdoo (NZ) with Mr Darcey.

http://www.racingxtra.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=2301:rawiller-to-ride-rangirangdoo-in-doncaster&catid=34:racing&Itemid=96


Rangi has a hit out ahead of Doncaster

    * AAP
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    * Friday, 9 April 2010

Doncaster Mile fancy Rangirangdoo was kept up to the mark for next Saturday's time-honoured Randwick feature with a barrier trial hitout at Warwick Farm.

Doncaster Mile fancy Rangirangdoo was kept up to the mark for next Saturday's time-honoured Randwick feature with a barrier trial hitout at Warwick Farm on Friday.

The Chris Waller-trained gelding finished second in his 1200m heat, half a length behind imported galloper Doctor Fremantle.

Rangirangdoo has finished second in both the Group One Chipping Norton Stakes (1600m) and Ranvet Stakes (2000m) at his past two starts and will drop back to 1600m next Saturday with Nash Rawiller to partner him for the first time in a race.

http://www.superracing.com.au/heraldsun/story/Rangi-has-a-hit-out-ahead-of-Doncaster/13656

So public knowledge at least on april 9th

and gai first started trying to book rawiller on the 12th

Theseo a likely Doncaster runner, but Rawiller bound to 'Rangi'

PATRICK BARTLEY AND ANDREW GARVEY
April 13, 2010

STAR galloper Theseo could be a surprise starter in Saturday's Doncaster Mile, but the Gai Waterhouse stable will be forced to find a new rider for the six-year-old.

Racing NSW stewards yesterday ruled that Theseo's regular rider, Nash Rawiller, would have to honour a commitment to ride Rangirangdoo.

http://www.theage.com.au/sport/horseracing/theseo-a-likely-doncaster-runner-but-rawiller-bound-to-rangi-20100412-s451.html

Offline Duke of Astor

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« 2010-Apr-15, 01:44 AM Reply #73 »
Think just good publicity for the race.

How could the result be any different.

The Waterhouse/Rawiller split comes next.

Don't worry, sacked/departed jocks always get to ride for her again.(just like Dad)

Offline Duke of Astor

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« 2010-Apr-15, 01:47 AM Reply #74 »
Now everyone will be backing Theseo and Rangi....probably both will fail though brilliant performers.

Remember Bart springs surprises. I'm still convinced Allez Wonder will give you a run for your money.
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