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« 2016-May-16, 09:41 PM Reply #225 »
I would think there are plenty who would point to the lack of success that they enjoyed under the two predecessors as a reason for a change.

Moody would be an excellent fit. And to make it a fresh renewal maybe try and entice Luke Nolen to come up to Sydney ro be the #1 jockey  :bulb:

How did you come to that conclusion?

Snowden was the only Godolphin trainer before O'Shea. Hawkes already left. Snowden trained quite a few G1 winners and kept losing his group winners o/s too.

O'shea got presented with Hartnell and Contributer too while from memory Snowden never got that luxury.

O'Shea also had a benefit from memory to help with some insurance or underselling issue so Godolphin does have some form in giving people 2nd chances.

O'shea is a good trainer and with a bit of luck could had quite a few G1 winners as he had some good placings this seasin with Exosphere letting him down and many others too. After his Golden Rose win, I thought this horse could be unbeaten at the end of the season but racing is funny like that.

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« 2016-May-16, 10:00 PM Reply #226 »
How did you come to that conclusion?

Snowden was the only Godolphin trainer before O'Shea. Hawkes already left. Snowden trained quite a few G1 winners and kept losing his group winners o/s too.

O'shea got presented with Hartnell and Contributer too while from memory Snowden never got that luxury.

O'Shea also had a benefit from memory to help with some insurance or underselling issue so Godolphin does have some form in giving people 2nd chances.

O'shea is a good trainer and with a bit of luck could had quite a few G1 winners as he had some good placings this seasin with Exosphere letting him down and many others too. After his Golden Rose win, I thought this horse could be unbeaten at the end of the season but racing is funny like that.

I am confused by your reply Jeunes. Your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs seem to agree with me.

I don't know what the 4th paragraph means.

Agree somewhat about Exosphere. Should have won the Lightning but for a bad ride/tactics, but no excuses in the TJ Smith apart from the track conditions.

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« 2016-May-17, 08:04 PM Reply #227 »
I am confused by your reply Jeunes. Your 2nd and 3rd paragraphs seem to agree with me.

I don't know what the 4th paragraph means.

Agree somewhat about Exosphere. Should have won the Lightning but for a bad ride/tactics, but no excuses in the TJ Smith apart from the track conditions.

Snowden was not given much of a chance compared to O'Shea was the point I was trying to make.

I forgot to put someone else's point regarding Godolphin only hiring clean skins.

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« 2016-Sep-18, 08:59 AM Reply #228 »
      Find myself cheering John O'Shea these days, not Godolphin, just O'Shea.
      Comes because of the crappy comments about the guy I've read about him on here, and other forums.
     
     The little smiles of satisfaction say plenty.

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« 2016-Sep-18, 09:24 PM Reply #229 »
The stable seems to have kicked off spring well   emthup

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« 2016-Nov-17, 05:36 PM Reply #230 »
Interesting times ahead for O'Shea with McDonald in strife.

He could have a good autumn especially with the likes of Hartnell, Haurakai, Astern plus his 2 year olds. The question is will he stick with a regular or pass the rides among the jocks.

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« 2017-Apr-30, 06:41 PM Reply #231 »

O'Shea reportedly quits, despite denial

BY Matt Kelly - @matty_ke
John O'Shea has reportedly resigned as head trainer of Godolphin Australia, despite the powerhouse stable denying as such on Friday.

Speculation has grown in recent days that O’Shea has quit his post, with a desire to spend more time with his family.

But Godolphin Managing Director Henry Plumptre told G1X.com.au on Friday afternoon that, “It’s the first I’ve heard of it.”

“Not as far as I know, I’m standing in the Crown Lodge right at the moment,” Plumptre said. “It’s the first I’ve heard of it.”

A source told G1X that Godolphin has already begun interviewing possible replacements, with James Cummings said to be one trainer who is in the mix to replace O'Shea.


It is understood however that James Ferguson - assistant trainer to Charlie Appleby, who prepared Sydney Cup winner Polarisation, and Penglai Pavilion - is the front runner for the position.


O’Shea is currently on annual leave, with reports on Saturday stating Godolphin is in the process of negotiating a severance package with him.

O'Shea, who is three years into a five-year contract, and is yet to confirm his decision, was appointed principal trainer at Godolphin in May 2014.

He has trained more than 500 winners for Sheikh Mohammed, including ten Group 1’s with the likes of Hartnell, Contributer, Exosphere and Astern.


ON SKY TR show today much speculation on the O'Shea/ Godolphin issue putting up a market James Cummings was priced @$1.50 Greg Radley was 1000/1 and Richard Freedman 500/1 but some "late (monopoly) money" saw him shorten dramatically to $8...it being opined Cummings was in Dubai being interviewed from rumour and gossip O'Shea has had enough of Plumtre ........ O'Shea's critics have tipped the bucket on him on social media  ..there are lots of haters out there in cyberspace,......I like O'Shea he's done very well since taking up the job......I don't think Cummings would be the best choice or even if he's interested seeing his tries to Gooree......Jason Coyle or even John Thompson would be in the running Lee Freedman is a very good trainer if they're looking past the younger brigade.

Giddy Up :beer:



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« 2017-Aug-29, 08:03 PM Reply #232 »
Concealing the strangles case NSW stewards fine O'Shea a total of $30K.

http://www.racingnsw.com.au/site/_content/document/00001725-source.pdf

From the decision:-

Disqualification or suspension of licence have been a well-established punishment for
serious breaches of the AR175(g) that impact upon the integrity of racing. Mr Stirling
submitted that a period of disqualification or suspension was not appropriate in this case, as
Mr O’Shea’s offending was of a “moderate kind” for the following reasons;
a. The level of materiality of Mr O’Shea’s evidence, given that he admitted that he
suspected that Polemic had strangles (with that suspicion being enough for him to be
caught by AR64K(2), which reads “A person who…suspects or should reasonably
suspect [that a horse] is infected with a notifiable disease or condition”;
b. Mr O’Shea’s false and/or misleading evidence had no real consequence for the
investigation, either in relation to him, other licensed persons, or others subject of the
inquiry;
c. The offence that was being concealed was not of the more serious kind that impacts
upon the integrity of racing having regard to precedent penalties.


Giddy Up :beer:


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« 2017-Aug-29, 08:35 PM Reply #233 »
If anyone ever needs any evidence that Racing Stewards haven't a clue then this is it. Here we have a senior trainer who "suspects " that a horse in his charge has a highly infectious disease , which has the potential to shut down an entire Industry, but takes no action or informs no one who counts. And what do the Stewards do ? They belt him with a feather. The bloke should have been rubbed out for an extended period. If I had been the trainer next door and this infection found its way into my stable because he shut his mouth I would have made sure training horses  would have been something he would have found physically challenging in the future. Says so much about the man.

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« 2018-Jan-02, 01:43 PM Reply #234 »
Congratulations must be in order for O'Shea with the win of Prince Cheri yesterday.

I did spot the horse for sale on one of the thoroughbred on line sales for $9k 12 months or so ago.

Looked finished with David Vandyke but has shown something every start with John O'Shea and earned around $100k.


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